Everton Banter Archive March 15 2018

 

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Top 10 Attacking Midfielders

15 Mar 2018 19:36:42
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Top 10 Attacking Midfielders

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15 Mar 2018 14:25:40
Right instead of the same old rubbish about our manager staying or going, let's see who if given 150million to spend on players, who and why would you buy them
Left back, Bertram 25million
Central defender- Maguire 35million
Central midfield-nzonzi 45million
Central midfield - Wilshire free
Striker -rashford 45million
I've only gone for premiership players who are tried and trusted.

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15 Mar 2018 16:14:37
Manager: Tedesco. I'd prefer if we gave the job to a young upcoming manager with fresh ideas.

LB: Tierney - 20 million. Highly unlikely he'd come because he seems rooted in Scotland but looks a cracking prospect. Another name I think the club should consider is Grimaldo from Benfica, although he seems out of our reach. Realistically I'd say Bertrand.

CB: Koulibaily - 50 million. Again, unlikely as perhaps this ship has sailed. Plus why would he want to leave Serie A title contenders to come to us, unless he was a money grabber. Other names I'd consider are Tah from Bayer or De Vrij from Lazio, again, unrealistic but the OP said who would you want ;) . Realistically either Zouma or Toprak from Dortmund.

LW: Gelson Martins - 40 million. Can't say i've seen much of this guy, only clips on youtube but he has pace to frighten any defence and looks a real threat with his crosses, chips in with a few goals too. Other players would include Konoplyanka, he could be persuaded if Tedesco came in as manager and probably going to be an unpopular opinion but I wouldn't mind Iago Aspas either. Although he played for the shower i think he's a good player. Some players just don't fit in at clubs and I think that was the case for him at Liverpool. Realistically I'd say Zaha.

ST: Bakambu - 35 million. We've been linked with him for a few seasons now and whenever I take the time to watch some la liga games the guy looks tailor made for the Prem. He's strong, has good control and linkup play, not to mention he has pace to burn. Other names i'd consider are Batshuayi, Belotti - seems to have went quiet on him over the past year after showing so much promise, and Gomez from Atalanta. Really liked the look of him when we played them in the Europa League. Realistically I'd say Vardy.

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{Ed025's Note - i think you should replace walsh BB..

15 Mar 2018 16:36:28
don't know where you're getting these prices from in common market, rashford 45mill? one of the worlds rising stars. we got sigi for 45!

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15 Mar 2018 16:52:37
Haha, I wouldn't mind the money he's on Ed. I'll send my CV over ;)

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{Ed025's Note - you should do mate..

15 Mar 2018 17:30:34
Sessenong
Mee
Banega
Zaha.

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15 Mar 2018 18:43:03
Joe Bryan - top quality young left back. Already playing above championship level
Alfie Mawson - not that dealing with Swansea is any fun, but one of their best players and CBs around.
Steven N'Zonzi - class midfield enforcer and quality.
Emil Forsberg - been an integral part of Leipzig's exciting season
Vincent Aboubakar - a gamble, but a tough, quick goalscorer and only 22.
Or spend the £150 Million on a time machine and bring back Dixie Dean.

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15 Mar 2018 20:20:19
Kieron Tierney at left back for me, good shout for others but for me, that would be my number one target in the summer.

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15 Mar 2018 22:27:26
Wblue and everyone who disagreed, I said it was a bit of fun, I didn't say everyone has to agree, or the prices are correct, fun fun fun, just put who you would like, not argue about what I put, 😛😛😛.

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16 Mar 2018 06:05:02
Left Back Shaw or Tierney
Centre Half Mawson or Mee
Midfield Doucoure or Nzonzi
Forwards 2 out of Dembele, Batshuayi, Shaquiri or Zaha

Out to balance the squad
Williams
Martina - I think Kenny is better right back cover
Scheiderlin
Besic - although I wish him well
Ramires - he doesn't want to come back and hasn't proved himself although time in the team very limited
Bolassie - no final ball too many times.

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16 Mar 2018 06:24:29
Thinking some more about it I'd have to add Niasse to the outs list.
I love his attitude and effort but too often the move breaks down due to poor control or a bad pass.

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16 Mar 2018 07:01:06
Bw. I'd keep Bolasie, last season he only played 12 games but had 4 assists and a goal. He just needs to hit his peak again.

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16 Mar 2018 09:10:57
It's all a matter of opinions SMIT666 and I can understand where you are coming from but personally I'd rather keep Lookman and Vlasic as I think there is more potential there and I'd pick Zaha or Shaquiri over Bolassi

Another one to go would be Garbutt- not because he has done anything wrong but because he hasn't been given the chance to do anything wrong and he must be so frustrated.

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16 Mar 2018 20:26:08
I completely overlooked a name for CB. Anyone remember Nastasic who used to play for City? I think he'd be a brilliant signing for us. Thought he was excellent in his breakthrough season with City but injuries cost him afterwards. He seems to have put that behind him now is has had a solid couple of seasons with Schalke. I think he'd probably be available around the 20-25 million mark too. Any interest in him?

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15 Mar 2018 13:56:27
A lot on here say that Klassen has not had a chance to adjust this season of which I am one. So a simple question.

Would you be happy to give him a run until the end of the season even if it would jeopardise results in the hope that he has a future with us?

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15 Mar 2018 14:25:07
if he only plays in away games it shouldn't really be a problem as SA doesn't put his best team out for them anyway.

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15 Mar 2018 16:49:36
Totally agree with that. I think there's a couple that could be given a chance Ace.

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15 Mar 2018 18:02:49
Listening to Allardyces press conference it doesn't sound like he'll even make the squad.

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15 Mar 2018 18:46:03
Surely with Sigi out he might get some minutes off the bench regularly, if not starts? Although personally I'd like to see more appearances from Beni Banigime. He was great at times.

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{Ed025's Note - i like beni too OHEFB..

15 Mar 2018 19:02:03
I actually think that despite his inexperience, he's better than most of what we have in that position. He's brave and enthusiastic, but watches the game like a hawk. His focus and attitude are excellent and come to think of it, I think he won an award for this last season. I'd love to see him as a wildcard in the derby, as I bet he'd rise to the challenge and dismantle their midfield. Bright future this one.

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{Ed025's Note - i think so too mate..

15 Mar 2018 19:05:53
Against Stoke, Alardyce will move Rooney to central attacking midfield inbetween Walcott and Bolasie, Gueye DM with either Davis (the lad is a bit of a headless chicken at the moment and out of form) or and I dread this but suspect it will happen Schneiderlin.

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15 Mar 2018 19:44:43
Think Walcott's out injured isn't he, ducks?

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15 Mar 2018 20:22:54
Beningame all Day long for me, can put in a tackle and good at picking a pass out, baffling how he has been omitted after playing some decent games when called up.

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15 Mar 2018 21:32:31
Could be right there on Walcott. Could play Kenny in front of Coleman.

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15 Mar 2018 23:34:26
Count me in on Beni as well and agree with Only's assessment of him.

With Sig out there should be no excuse in giving Klas his chance. However, we need to be patient with him to get up to speed and may not see the best of him for 2 or 3 games.

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16 Mar 2018 06:10:24
We paid a lot of money for him and will only get a fraction back if we sell him now. Even without that cash incentive he deserves a chance. When he was at Ajax he was the heartbeat of the team and we sorely lack that at Everton at the moment.

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16 Mar 2018 09:31:19
Im also part of the beni admirers list, looks like he reads the game and has great vision of what's going on ahead of him, lyon away stands out when he was our only good player.

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15 Mar 2018 09:32:01
Jusst so people know I am not a Sam supporter as is. I do agree that he is his own worst enemy with pre aand post match comments. He talks about himself far too much and not the club (see Unsworth for how to talk up the club) he does blame players when he should look at himself. and yes the footy is dire at times. and that's where I blame the squad. which was assembled by Koeman, Martinez and Walsh. Nothing to do with Sam at all. I think any manager in the world would struggle with that squad. For a club like ours to have so many duffers/ kids/ OAP'S/ right footers/ no left footers. is criminal! That happened over 8 years not 3 months!

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15 Mar 2018 14:14:28
Great post.

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15 Mar 2018 16:47:42
Degsy even under Moyes we were rubbish. We haven't been good since 96. However, you've got to start looking at the future Degsy and stop dwelling on the past.

You've also got to stop looking at 11 years with Moyes as if it was some kind of utopian period littered with wonderful football and magnificent players.

It amazes me we have supporters who accept this failure as success.

Good managers can turn individuals even bad ones, into teams. Royle 1996.

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15 Mar 2018 18:04:51
According to Allardyce our wretched away form is down to injuries, Degsy.
Another foot in mouth comment in his press conference.

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15 Mar 2018 18:13:53
It is symptomatic of this season Blue John. Nil satis nisi optimum means nothing to some anymore, mediocrity has been accepted as the norm.

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15 Mar 2018 20:33:23
Have to disagree about Sam and the squad, when Sam took over, he over looked Klaassen, Lookman, persisted with picking Schnids, Williams, playing Martina at left back, Calvert Lewin and Siggerson on the wing, has also overlooked Vlassic and persisted playing Bolasie, we had Wayne Rooney on ten goals, now playing further back, blamed the weather for Tosun not playing, we had Beningame who was playing well now nowhere near the starting 11, say what you like about the squad but There were players there Sam could have tried, it took a ban for Williams not to be included but I guarantee he will come straight back in, within two weeks of his ban ending, it’s just my opinion in regards to not Sams fault, not all of it but certainly a big percentage of his set up play, especially away from home.

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15 Mar 2018 20:34:58
Message to BJU and Smit666.I never once mentioned Moyes in my post? So why you have brought it up BJU, I am not sure? And Smit666. I just flipping said Allardyce shoots himself in the foot with his comments so am not sure why you are pointing this out to me?

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15 Mar 2018 20:44:00
Only pointing it out Degsy as I didn't know whether you had seen the conference. It was to merely back up your reference.
Apologies if it was misconstrued.

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15 Mar 2018 20:54:57
Degsy mate you don't half take a lot of flak on here. You keep getting cast in the role of a panto villain by some posters. Maybe you should embrace it and end all of your posts with a Bwahahahahahahaaaa!

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15 Mar 2018 21:37:31
Now Siggerson is injured, I would play Rooney further upfield, with an option to recall Gana or Beningame to play where Rooney was playing, two little tweaks, with an option of Klassen coming off the bench to replace a tiring Rooney. Stick with the same back four, with Tosun as the main striker.

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15 Mar 2018 21:50:58
Thanks Onlyhaveeyes. yeah I agree with people and they still want to pick a fight with me sometimes. Bwahahahahahaha! . did I say it right?

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15 Mar 2018 23:21:30
You infer it Degsy. You're trying not to mention his name but things like 8 years or anything you can reference back to Moyes time at the club.

I'm not picking on you. It just sounds bloody crazy everytime you go back to his time at the club. We've had three managers and a caretaker since.

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16 Mar 2018 12:16:58
And I have to say BJU those 3 have had much more funds than the previous 2 managers yet the club has gone backwards. I could go back further and point out mistakes under agent Johnson and with the likes of Mike Walker. But I think recent history and recent managers is what we are talking about. whilst yes I have gone on about Moyes' stabilising the club in past posts. I think you were reading too much into it this post. all I was saying is that we have not made progress under the last 2 managers when they have had almost limitless amounts of funds available to them. If anything, we have gone backwards and I think we were pretty close to the wheels coming off this season and a possible relegation scenario. That could result in Moshiri throwing his toys out of the pram and potentially a Leeds United scenario with us. It was mainly criticism of Koeman, Martinez and Walsh. ie showing that everyone blaming Sam Allergy is rather unfair in my view. Yes he may be crap. Yes he may say the wrong things. but a new manager would not take us up that table much in my view because the squad is wrong. A squad mainly weak because of the previous 2 managers and a DOF who has made poor decisions.

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16 Mar 2018 13:13:01
I can't say I've ever seen on this site anyone solely blame Sam Allardyce for all of Evertons's faults. I sure all of us agree that Martinez, Koeman and Walsh, plus probably the directors have all contributed.
I'm glad you seem to agree that SA might have been 'crap' and 'say the wrong things' (plus set the team up wrong against Spurs, Arsenal and Burnley to name just a few, continue to pick Williams and Scheiderlin for far too long, demonstrate very little man management skills etc etc. )
We all need to put the past behind us and focus on the future which brings us back to BJU's questions. Will we play attractive football under SA, will we win trophies and will we break into the top 4. To me the answer is no, No, NO. We need to change.

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16 Mar 2018 15:13:08
Put like that bw2412. I can't argue except for maybe one thing. sometimes a football club needs stability. perhaps the stability we need is only until the end of this season when we start again? I do understand many of the points raised and I also agree 100% that Allergy does shoot himself in the foot with some outrageous statements at times (usually when he opens his mouth) and I agree that Schneiderlin should have been dropped many many games ago. and I agree that he picked negative formations. but my previous points still stand. he is just the latest mistake that Everton Football Club have made. there have been plenty of other mistakes along the way and too many supporters see Allergy as the whole story and seem to think we have fine players and a decent squad. none of which is true in my mind!

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16 Mar 2018 23:29:48
I can totally understand people who want him to stay until we are mathematically safe and we are nearly there thank goodness. After that let's do what's best for the future of the club.
Thank him, give him a deserved/ contracted big pay-off and let's move on. NSNO.

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17 Mar 2018 12:29:33
I understand what you're saying Degsy. I'm not dismissing what Moyes done at all by the way. He just wasn't a winning manager. We wasted 11 years. Some call it stabilisation but it was more accurately stagnation. Nothing to do with money either as was pointed out the other day on here. He had plenty.

New projects, managers, players all generate interest, excitement and fear. It's that fear that creates focus and ambition which Moyes never had. He could finish 4th bottom and still have a job. That was the biggest mistake we made as a club. Plus we feared we would fall through the floor if Moyes left. 4 years on and we're still here.

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Review Of The Day 15th March 2018

15 Mar 2018 05:55:02
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