Everton Banter Archive June 14 2018

 

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14 Jun 2018 16:35:15
May I ask a question here that is not Everton related? The start of the World Cup has made me curious. It's honestly cool if you don't post it.

Everybody seems to think it's impossible to sign players away at the WC but I remember when those incredible young German hopes suddenly signed for Real, Khedira and Ozil.

My question is about that, the German young stars (at the time) suddenly signed for Real. Were they of long term interest or did Real pounce so quick after a great performance that no other teams had chance to react?

Makes me wonder if teams are scouting Worder Cup and have to jump on a transfer as quick as possible without the diligence and scouting that would typically go into a transfer. Imagine the turkeys you could get because someone just clicked on the world stage, or alternatively the gem you gain because a young unknown has been given a chance.

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14 Jun 2018 20:06:49
Read sissoko for instance.

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14 Jun 2018 22:21:59
Enner valenica at last world cup.

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15 Jun 2018 09:26:08
Besic? . had messi in his pocket. done nothing since!

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15 Jun 2018 09:38:42
Besic? . had messi in his pocket. done nothing since!

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15 Jun 2018 19:43:16
That besic performence was outstanding.

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15 Jun 2018 22:15:24
We bought Besic after he marked Messi out of a game at the WC.

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14 Jun 2018 12:40:55
All in all imo a fairly decent fixture list for Everton this season which, if we get off to a good start, ould see us fighting for position at the right end of the table and hopefully a place in the Euro League or better in 19/ 20. Now all we need are the right players playing in their best positions. COYB!

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14 Jun 2018 19:32:55
Problem is H . this easy start that we think we have, if we don't get the results we expect it it could all turn nasty Very quick as some supporters will expect us to win most of these games I'm not to convinced it's always a good thing to have an easy start . if there is such thing.

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14 Jun 2018 20:10:12
Are there any easy starts?
Maybe a h9me game 1st but other than that who knows.
How many times have we seen the promoted sides top half early on.
Huddersfield were top after 4 games last season.

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14 Jun 2018 20:45:17
I think Wolves away will be a very tricky match they look like a good team with a good manager and they'll be well up for it. Plus we're in transition.

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14 Jun 2018 21:17:20
Compared to last year miles better.

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14 Jun 2018 21:20:55
Not as tricky as City away would have been.

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15 Jun 2018 01:45:21
I had a feeling after I posted that it may come across, to some, that I was saying we have an 'easy start'. That's not what I meant at all. I understand there are no EASY games in the PL, but there are definitely some you'd consider harder than others. Sure, we could lose the first few games and have all the doom merchants screaming for various heads, or we could just as easily win them and get delusions of grandeur. let's just wait and see what pans out eh. COYB!

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15 Jun 2018 06:35:39
Hope so H šŸŗ.

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15 Jun 2018 07:13:43
Hard game against Wolves and Nuno EspĆ­rito Santo (65 percent win rate) , Porto (55 percent win rate) and Valencia (51 percent win rate) . Those are not stats to be sniffed at and a Manager who is an ex-Goalkeeper at that. Nuno EspĆ­rito Santo may have been on our radar but I suspect with Wolves financial clout, he would have turned us down. I agree with others that no game at this level is a given and the new Management structure will be very aware of this.

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14 Jun 2018 11:51:48
Can any eds shed any light on Das bost a few sky sports reporters are saying we are interested in him and any news regarding Carvalhio and gelson Martin's moving to us.

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{Ed002's Note - This seems to just be a list of random players.}

14 Jun 2018 12:14:17
Sorry ed I will explain we have been linked with Carvalhio for the last few weeks so was seeing if their is an update
A few sky sports reporters are saying we are interested in das bost so was after your view on it to see if it has any substance
And on the Arsenal page you said another English club is interested in gelson Martin's and was seeing if that's us cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach from Everton to Sporting for any of their players. Silva was briefly at Sporting and William Carvalho was there at the same time so perhaps that is the reason for the links - but he did not try and take him to any of the other three clubs he has coached since 2015. I am also far from convinced that Carvalho would get on well in the Premier League. I am not aware of why Sky reporters are saying that Everton has an interest in Bas Dost, I can only assume there has been an approach to his agents or Sporting by Everton that I am not aware of. I did not say anything about another English club on the Arsenal page - the discussions have been taking place with Juventus, although he has been offered to three London clubs.}

14 Jun 2018 13:27:18
Yes sorry I apologise reg gelson I mis read it thanks for the reply it's appreciated.

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14 Jun 2018 11:39:19
Two of the top 4 teams in the first 10 games and a really kind Christmas/ new year for us.

I think this is probably the kindest draw we have had in many a year.

I will take this all day long, sometimes breaks like this can make all the difference. Our last game against Spurs could be interesting though for both teams. I wonder if we will be resting players for FA cup final or if we will play our strongest side.

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14 Jun 2018 11:53:00
Not as kind as it's been to the red lot looking at their fixtures the fa have done all they can to help them win the league not one tricky month.

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14 Jun 2018 21:09:48
As always Bluey. Luckiest team in the league.
Son of Grumpy. Not overly happy going to spurs neck and neck with City for the league. šŸ˜.

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14 Jun 2018 21:44:05
We can dream Smit and Tony šŸ˜‚.

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14 Jun 2018 22:13:32
We will still beat them Smit666 with our players resting, and at the same time pipping City on goal difference.

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14 Jun 2018 09:35:28
What a start. We could really build up a good points tally before hitting the big boy's.

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14 Jun 2018 09:21:51
I'll take that people! Bring on the new season!

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14 Jun 2018 10:50:28
Great fixtures. If we build some momentum we could shock a few of the big boys towards the end of the season at Goodison when they've got tired legs after a long season in Europe.

Only downside is I can only make 6 games due to work, looks like Stubhub for the rest.

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14 Jun 2018 09:15:17
So much for the leaks of playing Man City on the first day! šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

We have been given a pretty kind start to the season in my opinion!

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14 Jun 2018 09:13:11
Great fixtures for us. I'm well happy with that start! COYB!

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14 Jun 2018 12:38:26
i think we have a great set of opening fixtures exept maybe for Wolves which I think will be very tough.

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14 Jun 2018 09:12:50
looks like an easy start to the season, looking at the teams in the premiership we should at the very least finish 7th.

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14 Jun 2018 09:20:27
Easier than last year! Wasnā€™t it 5 of the top six in the opening 7 games? That was a tough couple of months to endure. Although no easy games really! Bring on the season now.

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14 Jun 2018 09:56:52
Wolves away on the first day could be a bit feisty but really couldn't have asked for much better.

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14 Jun 2018 07:56:24
Why are some people so desperate to keep Klaassen? I love his attitude, through all the crap he's seemingly been out through, he still wants to put a shift in and succeed at the club, but I don't see what he's actually done in the time he's been given to warrant staying.

Sure this'll get downvoted to hell, but I'd keep Schneiderlein. His lack of effort last season was appalling yes, but there's a player in there.

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14 Jun 2018 08:11:11
Hugo I could be wrong but I'm sure one of the eds mentioned how poor him and Sandro had been poorly treated by the club and it's not desperation to keep him it's about giving him a fair chance to show if he can do it remember Klasson was captain of Ajax and also captained of the Netherlands so he isn't a bad player.

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14 Jun 2018 08:17:21
So you want to get rid of a player who wants to be here and only got a chance when the whole team was awful at the start of the season, but you want to keep a player who doesn't want to be here an was given a chance pretty much all season an still didn't try or look like he give a sh! t. I used to love schneiderlin but for me he showed his true colours this season. You say thers a player in schneiderlin well there is also a player in klassen an he actually wants to have a go at our club. we need people at this club who actually want to be here and are going to work 100 percent every week, especially this next season coming. The lad was ajax captain at 24 for god sake he can't be that bad.

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14 Jun 2018 08:52:04
Letā€™s be honest though - Sandro went out on loan and didnā€™t score a single goal. Klasson is as told to go out on loan and refused. If he was setting training alight Iā€™m sure he would get a game so clearly he is not standing out. Iā€™d have the exact same attitude - Iā€™d love to play for EFC. Problem is - Iā€™m crap! Right attitude is one thing - being good enough is another. If Koeman, Silva and Allerdyce donā€™t think they are good enough from what they see day in day out then really thatā€™s enough.
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14 Jun 2018 09:22:22
Spot on Sobs.

TBH Iā€™m more interested in the idea of playing one holding midfielder. That way thereā€™s not the case of one carrying the other. The problem is is that we have 5 of them so something there has to give. Over to you Marco.

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14 Jun 2018 10:19:00
That one holding could be Schneidsā€™. Its what heā€™s best at IF he applies himself!

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14 Jun 2018 10:38:45
If we do get that Maddison kid from Norwich then there isn't actually a place in the squad for Klaassen no matter how much he wants to stay, Gylfi and Maddison would be the 2 attacking mids for me.

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14 Jun 2018 16:17:58
Well reading brands comments klaasens going nowhere.

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14 Jun 2018 20:20:42
Klassen was never going to get a game under Allardyce. 2 midfield slots taken up by 2 defensive mids. We even had 3 in one game. I don't necessarily see Klassen just playing a 10 I think he could play deeper in our league.
As for why didn't the others play him. Well Koeman did and when he did he was no worse than everyone else at the time. Unsworth was never going to take a risk on him. For me, circumstances have been his worst enemy.

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Review Of The Day 14th June 2018

14 Jun 2018 07:32:23
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 14th June 2018

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14 Jun 2018 00:00:28
How bad is the situation being reported at PSG Eds?

Is there a chance it might start a European wide transfer merry-go-round before the end of the month or are we likely to see little movement until after the World Cup as people will be a little distracted and the top players are busy playing?

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{Ed002's Note - This has been known about since last summer. This is the Everton page so why ask here?}

14 Jun 2018 06:55:33
Why what's happened at PSG.

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{Ed001's Note - nothing. He is referring to FFP regs. Nothing new has occurred.}

14 Jun 2018 07:21:16
I think the reason that the question was asked is the old maxim "in chaos lies opportunity"

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14 Jun 2018 07:36:41
Sort of Glennk.

Sorry Ed002 - I read on BBC about PSG needing to sell and linked it to the idea of clubs wanting to get players in before letting managers etc talk to their players.

With Silva and Brands looking round Europe, do you think this deadline will trigger more transfer activity or will the World Cup starting today more than like quash it?

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{Ed002's Note - No, it is nothing to do with that, nor Everton. Sorry.}

14 Jun 2018 08:57:34
Ed 2 ......................

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{Ed002's Note - Try not to be a cretin.}

14 Jun 2018 09:25:02
Missed you Ed 002 šŸ˜‚.

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{Ed002's Note - I missed you too.}

14 Jun 2018 19:33:18
Cheers for the reply ed - I'll try and be more patient.

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{Ed002's Note - I answered this on the European page on August 2, 2017 - nothing has changed.}

 
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