Everton Banter Archive June 13 2016

13 Jun 2016 22:40:47
after watching todays games
coleman nervous, not the player he was
mccarthy no!
mcgeady why?
lukaku please take the money and run.

13 Jun 2016 21:50:21
Top goal from pelle!

13 Jun 2016 21:33:54
Ha ha. Big head Lukaku had a crap game 2nite. just been subbed for Origi who is better in my opinion. the commentators all slating him for his appalling 1st touch and inability to hold the ball up. mmmm, seen that all last season. I tell you what, if we get £60+ million for that we have done very very very very well. Pelle ironically has been excellent and done everything that big ego hasn't done!

13 Jun 2016 22:03:34
On tonight's performance I would be happy getting our money back, he ain't no world class striker.

Dollo.

13 Jun 2016 22:36:29
His Dad will be telling him to go play for Italy next, in a way I was pleased that its not just us he’s played poorly for, and yes looking around blaming everybody but himself again .

13 Jun 2016 20:45:41
After this 1st half performance looks like we'll be keeping Lukaku now the world can see a) his first touch is terrible and b) even an attacking midfield of De Bruyne, Hazard and Rangginolan can't find his runs or feed him.

13 Jun 2016 21:09:53
Stop on svenny. just watched him on edge of Italy box, ball played to him and his 1St touch is a back pass to courtois lol.

13 Jun 2016 21:37:38
A legend in his own mind. That performance was nowhere near his original £28 Mill value. Theory beginning of the season when Big Dunc had full access to him he was running hot. When things started to go bad for Martinez, wasn't Big Dunc banned from the dressing room?

13 Jun 2016 21:42:33
Tbh gents have to disagree with that. yes he was poor, his touch and positioning and control awful, but just look at the goals he scored in a poor Everton side and his goal return prem league last 3yes. i would NT bet on any club dismissing his record based upon that performance. Think u have to look at Belgium general poor display. bo runners in the channels, no width, poor passing. and top players like vermahlen, hazard, de bruyne all having poor game. for me wilmots got plan and tactics ALL WRONG.

13 Jun 2016 21:34:06
lukaku"s world class status has gone for a burton [his words] showed what we blues have known for ages first touch erm well he hasint got one.

13 Jun 2016 20:16:34
. I see the Irish commentators are slating James McCarthy tonight for his performances. calling him a 'traffic cop' in midfield saying he does nothing apart from running around like a headless chicken pointing his fingers here there and everywhere. never rated him either. hope RK buys a suitable replacement.

13 Jun 2016 20:52:06
They have a habit of slating their own. Dunphy built his career on it. If Ireland won 12-0 you'd be guaranteed McCarthy would get negative comments. They've made McCarthy the scapegoat over the last year or so. Easy target to give out about. I watched game and thought he was no worse than anyone.

13 Jun 2016 21:46:31
Have to agree. poor assessment. slating him based on efc performance this yr and touting him as reason RM got sacked I ludicrous. especially as we all know RM was master of own demise. that Irish pundit simply being controversial. regardless of how good jmc may or may not be.

13 Jun 2016 22:22:59
Exactly Jcl1878! He's a journalist, what would you expect?

13 Jun 2016 17:04:16
Ronald Koeman will meet with Everton face to face today according to the Liverpool Echo as rumours start to creep in on Merseyside that this wil not be a done deal.

Ronald Koeman appears to have yet to have actually spoken to Everton directly regarding his proposed move to Goodison Park.

Although the full details of this move are very unclear, it seems that Everton had originally hired Koeman's now agent to persuade the Dutchman to move to Merseyside and that the deal was concluded between the agent and Everton whilst Koeman was on his way to his holiday.

This means that although the terms of any deal have been agreed that Koeman has actually yet to decide whether he wants to move to Everton or not, he has not sat down with Everton's representatives and sought their agreement on just how he would be allowed to run things should he decide to join them.

This means the deal is far from complete and even the Liverpool Echo who understandably are talking up Everton's chances say that there is nothing likely to be announced before Wednesday.

So far from being clear cut, it seems that although money has been agreed between Everton and Koeman's agent, there is still a fair way to go before a deal can be completed.

Also there is the question of whether Saints and Everton have agreed terms, Saints are said to be prepared to hold out for exactly what they want and even to go as far as to pay Koeman to sit out the coming season on gardening leave should these causes not be met by Everton.

So it seems that Koeman will speak to Everton, also almost certainly speak to Saints and then manke his decision whether to stay or go.

Whichever he decides it seems that this is not the clear cut case his agent was portraying 10 days ago and only wages have really been agreed.

13 Jun 2016 17:45:19
I have to admit I was always a little puzzled as to why the delay in signing. Some say, a, he was going on holidays.

I say that's an excuse. After agreeing (if it was in the first place) to accepting this massive job you don't just turn around and say, I'll not bother signing it. I'll go on holidays first.

Please?! That just doesn't happen. I'm not saying he won't be Everton manager and I'm not panicking. What I am saying there is a lot more to this than meets the eye.

I'm not sure whether the above poster is right in everything he says. I would definitely agree that there is more to it.

Just like a game is not over until the fat lady sings he's not our manager until he signs the contract.

13 Jun 2016 18:05:27
The OP's comments are exactly right, taken from the Echo with the Express reporting the same story; far from a done deal. Fingers crossed.

{Ed025's Note - its all just speculation though alan, only the people at the very top and ronnie and his agent know the real reason for the delay mate..

13 Jun 2016 20:39:16
I'm not buying it myself to be honest, just my initial reaction nothing against the poster. I can't see FM waiting around for just a possibility that his first choice may agree to join us and letting other targets slip by. We all seem to agree, judging by previous posts on here, that the man didn't become a billionaire by not being shrewd with his business dealings. This doesn't sound like the actions of a shrewd man.
There isn't too much going on with regards to transfers with most clubs, international competitions taking up most of the sports press, so there is room for not rushing into things. If it's true that he got back from holiday at some point today then we can expect news, either way, very soon. People get stressed too easily, someone was moaning on here at 10am today about RK not being unveiled! Was he even back from his jollies at that time? Has he actually been away :)

13 Jun 2016 21:09:14
There's nothing wrong here, just need a bit of patience. No need to believe the press who love a story.

13 Jun 2016 13:21:07
One thing re Koeman I find funny is people discussing his holiday. If it was just a matter of him needing to sign a 6 million a year contract you would think in 2016 he could either, receive an email, sign and scan it. Receive it in recorded mail. Or I don't know delay a holiday for 6 million a year.
Still think he will be our manager but the hold up is not down to holiday.

13 Jun 2016 15:31:22
Would it not be better to allow him to go on holiday and get refreshed.

He then comes back, concludes contract discussion and is then presented to the fans and media. Then, instead of going on holiday again which no doubt would have more people moaning, he can get on with doing his job.

To be fair to RK it is us that has come in for him at not the best time not the other way around. Pretty much most managers and players go on holiday at the same time this year and he is entitled to take leave.

What difference is it going to make if it was last week or next week. The important thing is he signs to manage our great club.

13 Jun 2016 16:23:39
Of course it's not down to his holiday. But whatever the delay is which I wouldn't like to guess at is probably a matter that needs his personal attention. So let's just chill and be patient with the club.

The main thing is that the club have so far done a superb job prizing a top manager out of the hands of a club who finished just 3 points off champions league. Not even we achieved that in our first season under Martinez.

Take whatever time is needed to make sure this guy feels he's at the right club to match his ambition.

13 Jun 2016 11:11:18
Well I was keen to see Yarmalenko last night. While he's clearly talented and capable of opening up a defence, he only seemed willing to work with the ball. Midway through the second half he didn't get involved unless in possession. I would question his fight.

13 Jun 2016 16:38:41
Totally agree Toffeace, would prefer Milik from Ajax but guess he will finish up where ever FDB lands.

13 Jun 2016 20:55:26
It's funny because I thought he looked class. Along with Payet the best in the competition so far.
He is a luxury player but every top team needs and has them. Just his technique, composure on the ball and vision made him stand out for me. Ozil but with a real burst of pace and bigger physique. Reckon he would wrip the premier league to shreds.

Just shows the different opinions though. Malik looked leggy to me as well. Good strike for his goal but fear he is having a moment in time rather than genuine class.

Bottom line, I'd be delighted with either but very much doubt we would even be in the reckoning.

13 Jun 2016 04:41:26
As quite a few fellow Evertonians have excellent recall, heres one I hope someone can answer, i recall in one of the Everton programes around 76 up to possibly 79 season, a picture of Leonard Rigsy Rossiter, pretty sure he was juggling a ball on one photo, and spinning it on a finger in another photo, if anyone recalls it, let me know, its driving me up the wall, cannot find the answer through google.

13 Jun 2016 12:35:02
Your question got me curious too Baz so I also looked online. Never found the answer but was pleasantly surprised to find Leonard was a local lad and staunch Evertonian. (That's why he was in the programme I suppose)

13 Jun 2016 13:43:47
I was a mere 4 year old baby then Baz, if there is anyone who can answer this it is our Ed25, he would have been near pension age then :) , sorry Ed.

{Ed025's Note - the thing is degs when you get to my age the old memory starts to fail you im afraid, i cant remember if i have put sugar in my tea never mind what happened in the 70,s mate.. :)

13 Jun 2016 00:20:59
Just read RK would sign Depay if he was available think we should try and get him can't have turned into a bad player overnight and if JM doesn't fancy him at Utd he would fit nicely into n attacking Everton what are your thoughts?

13 Jun 2016 08:11:37
I would love him at Everton, at his best, he is a great player.

13 Jun 2016 11:07:42
Could easily be suffering first season syndrome. He's quality and would be a great signing.

13 Jun 2016 16:36:08
I would but only at a much reduced price as the one he signed for was completely over inflated. £8-£11 Mil max.

There are loads of rumours of his attitude and off field issues that are also a concern.