Everton Banter Archive May 12 2012
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12 May 2012 21:59:50
Question for all of us, do you think Juaio Silva will get a look in next season? He's had more first team football this season out on loan than the likes of Barkley, Coleman, McAleny and probably even Rodwell have got at Goodison. That's 2 seasons out on loan and he's 21 now I think, so I highly doubt Moyes will send him out next season. Anybody seen any of him? I personally can see him on the bench next season, with Vellios taking his role out on loan (which can only be great for him).
On the other hand I'm quite excited for next season (get the feeling that if we get Pienaar at the very least, we're having a good start finally) as I expect to see Barkley coming through in a big way as well as Vellios (possibly the new Straq off the bench even though I think he's better than Straq) and possibly Silva and can see that new free agent kid, Junior Costa (?) making a late break in.
Steve EFC
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I totally agree Ste, if we only managed to get Peanuts I would be happy enough as long as we didnt sell any major talent
Degsy
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Hiya Steve iv'e heard he is leaving at the end of the season. He hasn't settled in England and wants to move back home.
Don't know if it's true but i'm sure i read it ages ago, maybe in the Echo.
Anyone know if this is true?
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I heard hes leaving as well off to Greece or back to Portugal I think shame really he has talent
Joe EFC
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12 May 2012 21:46:01
A Liverpool fan said to me today that everton is not loyal! Is he f**king kidding? We are one of the most loyal teams in the league if not the most! That really angered me........
TC
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What do you expect from kopite gobs**tes coyb today and swansea personally hope dalglish stays at liverpool cause there winning nothing major with that muppet
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He was probably from Norway and didn't know the meaning if the word
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12 May 2012 21:35:21
The Team I'd like to see next season, and one that is sort of likely/viable (not that it will happen though):
Howard
Baines, Heitinga, Distin/Jagielka, Coleman (hopefully he fits back as am RB/RWB)
Pienaar (new number 10), Osman/Gibson, Fellaini, Donovan/Jarvis
Dempsey
Jelavic
Subs: Barkley, Vellios, Cahill, Neville/Hibbert, Osman/Gibson
Steve EFC
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Good team, but I'd have hibbo on the pitch over coleman, personally
Toffeepidge
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12 May 2012 21:21:40
heard moyes is intrested in brining back Manuel Fernandes on loan any truth ed {Ed025's Note - i dont think so mate...apparently, and you wont believe this, but spurs are looking to buy him!....GET A LIFE HARRY..
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NO! Really Ed?!
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Moyes should release a statement saying he's interested in crazy targets like Andy Carroll, Nicholas bentner, Titus bramble and bringing vinny jones out of retirement just to see Rednaps reaction! Would totally confuse the man altogether!!
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Why would any one buy him when hes on a free
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12 May 2012 21:01:52
ed are we wearing are new kit vs newcastle {Ed025's Note - not sure mate, sorry..
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I wouldn't think so because we haven't unveiled it yet!
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Doubt Le coq sportif would allow that to happen.
Toffee ace
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No mate, someone at the club put on twitter before that we're not
Toffeepidge
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12 May 2012 21:00:06
ed can you tell me why we have to click to view the repleys on rumours but not banter it so much hassle {Ed025's Note - some guys dont like it mate, so i have put in a request to have it changed..
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12 May 2012 20:53:48
Ed don't let me get my hopes up,raul,yes or no,andy the chef {Ed025's Note - big fat...NO!...sorry andy..
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12 May 2012 21:13:40
B.g.t.......or the voice ed....wats the best {Ed003's Note - neither}
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The voice,they keep it real {Ed025's Note - BGT for me
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Neither,real musicians are born,not maufactured,jus like evertonians,true blue,efc 4 life
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12 May 2012 21:03:17
i like the look of james mccarty,hes goin to be a top player,hes like a young steven gerrard and he would be great buy and hes only young,true blue,efc 4 life
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Totally agree he's a top player...why did moyes not get him when he went for 2mill .....thought he new the Scottish market......tristen {Ed025's Note - i think we missed out big time tris..
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Wel wigan was a good move at the time,he was only a boy but i would put my house on the lad been a top top player,only downside is he wil be expensive,true blue,efc 4 life
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I would love him at Everton, but I'd be surprised if the top 4 clubs arn't also looking at him
Toffeepidge
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12 May 2012 20:23:23
what are the chances of us selling are best players eg baines felli hope its doesnt happen {Ed025's Note - i hope not mate...but im not ruling anything out at this stage..
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12 May 2012 19:57:51
Ok blues......were getting raoul ,on a 12month contract.....am made up he will compliment the jelly big time.........tristen
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Raul*
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My sister works at Manchester airport,she told me he came over last month,we were thinking it was for Liverpool,let me tell you he's still at the top of his game,if it true and he becomes a blue,even if it's only for a year,it's a coup,I watched him against Bilbao and he was world class
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Raul,at goodison,I will cream in my pants {Ed025's Note - i hate to sound sceptical guys....but this guy is on a reported £150,000 per week!, lets not get our hopes up on this one..
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Watched him and huntelar and they were awesome we could of got huntelar on the cheap, think they want 20millfor him now,but raul is one of the true greats if we sigh him we will sell out every game he's that good
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Moyes won't buy a thirty four year old it's not his style,
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This rumour is reported by tristan, sais everything
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Source ??
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Ok ed 150a week,but he does not need the cash, it's the challenge,plus he's mates with reina,he can chill with him,and bang them in for us {Ed025's Note - sorry mate...i just cant see it!..
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The money means nothing ed,you can't put a price on playing for the the toffees, {Ed025's Note - for us mere mortals mate , i agree...but this guys a superstar!..
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Raul stayed at the Hilton last month that's a fact, why was he in Liverpool I don't no,let's not speculate
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Rahul. Says,I. Have, Acheived. ,a ,lot .."..but .....playing for everton,...would eclipse....everything. ....come on you blues
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Av herd he. Wants to come to the. Premier league for a while,maybe the blues. Is his destinion
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Pleeezzzzzzzze ........join the blues".
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Raul.....had a arm band that says.....we shall not be moved.....
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12 May 2012 18:58:17
'Watching Crewe vs Southend - I like the look of Powell from Crewe good talent!' if that means anything {Ed024's Note - Apparently so
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Sorry typed this wrong, phil neville had just put that on twitter
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12 May 2012 18:57:45
What I (want) from this summer:
Outs:
Rodwell -10m
Jagielka -10m
Anichebe -2.5m
Ins:
Dempsey- 10m
Moses- 7.5m
Pienaar- 2.5/3m {Ed024's Note - If that happened we would need another cb, the club wouldn't sell jags for less than 12-13 million
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You want to sell Rodwell and the Jags.
These are quality players and the present and future of our club. Don't be too quick to sell these players now. Six months of good form from these two and you would be looking at 50 mil, not that I would still sell.
Can we please get real and keep our stars!
COUB
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Okay guys I put want in brackets, because I don't particularly want it to happen myself but I think it is what we'll have to do if Moyes wants funds also I think we'll get Jonas Olsson as a replacement CB...finally I would also prefer us to sell Rodders and Jags than Felli and Bainesy.
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12 May 2012 18:26:41
Anyone hear what Pardew just said? Has one good season and starts to get arrogant?
He just said on skysports news "Forget Everton and Aston Villa, we among the elite now"
Cheeky b**tard! Just set himself up for a MASSIVE fall next season.
Really and a lot of respect for Newcastle and Pardew lately but i hope we smash them tomorrow now {Ed024's Note - I find that very hard to believe he would say anything of the sort, he admires everton and moyes and has often said it, i for one admire newcastle and their achievements this season
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Ed024... he did say this mate, he was asked by a reporter on skysports
"now that you have had this good season and the worst you can do is finish 5th, do you think Newcastle can kick on now next season and take over the likes of Everton and Aston Villa who have been the teams in recent years competing with the big spender's, the top 4 top 6 teams"?
his reply was
"Forget Everton and Aston Villa, i'd say were more amongst the likes of Arsenal competing up there with them near the Manchester teams, were among the elite now"
so the poster is right it honestly is true and i agree he was being really arrogant and getting ahead of himself, we finished 4th not so long ago and apart from the last 3 seasons we were finishing 5th, you didn't see Moyes or ourselves disrespected other clubs and getting ahead of ourselves, hope we give them a hiding tomorrow now
Mike The Blue {Ed024's Note - So i believe, lets see where they are next season
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This really is true Ed024, saw it on the TV {Ed024's Note - He will have to realise that the hardest bit will be staying there in the top 6 and keeping hold of ba and cisse
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As a Geordie I'm totally shocked he said that aswell actually... I would definitely rate u guys at the same level as us , if not a bit higher as you've been there more consistently. Anyway good luck today, may the best team win... Although obviously I'm hoping we hammer u and make it into the champions league! :)
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12 May 2012 18:22:08
It looks like we will sell a key player next season reading Moyes interview in the Liverpool Echo he says
"It looks like for now we will probably have to trade players more than we have wanted to in the past, it's worked for Newcastle this season, they got 35 million for Andy Carroll and used that money well and they have got there rewards this season, they have been terrific. It's similar to us really, we have done it in the past when we had to sell Wayne Rooney and we bought in a few player's and nutured them along and we got ourselves in the Champions League, so it's not always a bad thing to trade, though you'd rather not sell your best player's in a ideal scenario, but sometimes you have too"
Reading into this i am convinced Moyes has got to the point were he actually WANTS to sell one of our key player's so he can make signings in the summer and remain competitive.
As i have always said i would love to keep the likes of Jagielka, Rodwell, Baines, Fellaini and Barkley (players that would sell for a big price) but if one of them needs to be sold and Moyes is giving most of the money to bring in 3-4 player's, I honestly would be happy with that as I believe Moyes is one of the best manager's in the league when it comes to using money and having a good eye for quality players.
No matter who he sold he would replace them really well, the only player out of the 5 i have mentioned that would go for a good price that we would find it difficult to replace would be Baines, the other 4, yes, again great player's but with the money Moyes would be able to replace them.
Who would everyone sell? and what's the valuation of the 5 i have mentioned? Here's what i think anyway;
Jagielka 12 million
Rodwell 14-16 million
Barkley 15-20 million
Fellaini 25-30 million
Baines 25 million {Ed024's Note - Whatever happens moyes will get it right, he has stated he needs a modest amount of money to do the business he wants, that i believe will be the selling of fringe players, unless a crazy bid came in for baines or fellaini in excess of 22 million where we would then have to consider it, it has worked for newcastle and if moyes got every penny of the money to spend there would be no complaints of me
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As long as we don't get freaking Arteta'd again! Business needs to be done early, we could have brought in Jelavic and/or some quality midfielder to replace Arteta last summer but the deal only happened in the closing minutes of the window. As long as it's great money and an early deal where quality is brought in then I guess that's ok. I'd sell anyone but Fellaini and Baines though (obviously Jelavic won't leave)
Steve EFC
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I agree, i would have no problem with us selling one of our "big" players IF the price was ridiculous high like 25 million plus AND it was done early in the summer and not last minute AND Moyes got every penny to bring a few players in.
Honestly wouldn't bother me. {Ed024's Note -I agree mate
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12 May 2012 14:11:53
what do you think about jordan rhodes just scored i think he would be great chep too {Ed025's not that cheap mate...west ham had a £6m offer turned down in january..
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I would prefer a forward player like dempsey who has premiership experience.
Bez the blue
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12 May 2012 14:10:51
Right guys and gals Degsys last bet on Everton of this season and it is a bute
Fiver hibbert last goal at 50/1
Philosophy on this is that we will be winning two nil and get a penalty and they will let hibbo take it
Bit far fetched but havnt had a winner for three weeks and due one
Degsy {Ed025's Note - save you dosh mate...if we do get a pen...there is no way hibbo will take it!..
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Thanks Ed you miserable sod
Degs {Ed025's Note - sorry degsy...but he could,nt hit a bulls arse with a banjo mate..
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I really believe hibbo will score one day and it will be a screamer.
Bez the blue
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Hibbert has got himself forward in the last few games and has had chances to shoot, maybe this will be the one
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I agree, he's often coming in to the box late from the right, and sometimes it looks like it will fall for him.....it's going to eventually.
Steve EFC
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Hibbo hit the post a couple of weeks ago with an over hit cross, that will be his best chance of scoring and i hope he does.........grbefc
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Do they pay out for own goal?
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12 May 2012 12:50:29
Talking to an ex Everton scout this morning who is now working for Southampton, I asked about any transfer activity and he said it is a strong possibility that man utd want to do a double deal for Bainsey and Felli for 35 mill!! They are worth twice that! but apparently, we wont be able to turn it down due to our financial position, there may be a player involved in it aswell, but only a fringe player. I said about the Diame rumours and he said if he does come, then we can kiss goodbye to Big Felli! he also said that Moyesy is a big fan of Scott Dobie!! Who is on loan at Blackpool from the jacks! (FFS) There is also talk of Jermain Defoe, however his 90k a week wages would deffo prove an issue. I don't know whats happening, but if we lose Big Felli and Bainsey, we are deffo in the s**t! And just going backwards.
What do you know on this Ed??
Skeet. {Ed025's Note - i think if we sell our best players..there will be a revolt, not just by the supporters, but by the players, who have put their faith in the club moving forward!...the likes of jelly, and the other quality players will be looking to jump ship, if the club is showing no ambition....and who could blame them!..
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And an ex everton scout is in the know! when did he leave? behave, we may be skint, but we wont let 45+ million worth of players go on the cheap, we were screwed when lesscott wanted to go and he still held out, what happened with arteta was totally a different story, he wanted a move last minute, rather than keep hold moyes let him go, he wont make that mistake again, give moyes some credit, that was a one off. and defoe again, i think this so called EX everton scout is full of the famous BS!
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12 May 2012 10:01:15
I think we will beat newcastle 2-1 ,Pienaar and Jelavic to score
Ste EFC {Ed025's Note - 2-0 for me ste....jelly 1st goal..
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12 May 2012 09:46:42
pranjic to come in free[at least hopefully] {Ed025's Note - hes gone to china mate..
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Offered massive money to move over there, we were so close to getting him in january and he was desperate to come to goodison at the time.
Bez the blue {Ed025's Note - he was mate, but its his last big pay day, so good luck to the guy..
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12 May 2012 09:23:49
Really can see Jelavic getting over the 20+ mark for goals next season especially if we secure Pienaar and maybe another striker (rodellaga? Fletcher?) Probably Rodellaga with him being free but then again Spurs want him and if they get champs league he will probably choose them.
Would love Dempsey or Donovan to sign next season! Rate them both highly.
Who do the ed's and the fans on here think we may get in the summer or is it going to be another stale transfer for us!!? {Ed025's Note - peanuts and 1 or2 freebies for me...i think the cupboard is bare!..
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IMWT ed, he will wheel and deal and get us what we need, he has done it so many times before.
Bez the blue {Ed025's Note - i hope your right bez..the rumblings coming out of the club, is that money is really tight..
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12 May 2012 09:20:51
Would love the transfer in's this summer to be;
Pienaar (4 million?)
Dempsey(6 million?)
Rodellaga(free)
We may sell somebody iv'e heard Yobo will be permanently leaving this summer for around 2-3 million and Mucha wants to go (can't see us getting more than 500k for him) and no doubt once again we will have to pay the banks so maybe we will see one of Rodwell or Jagielka being sold??
Personally i would love them both to stay here but we need improving in certain area's and if that means selling ONE player who will bring us 10-15 million and we can bring in 2 or 3 player's then so be it.
COYB
Looking forward to tomorrow should be a good game we are always competitive no matter what and we want to finish 7th and ahead of the RS and Newcastle know that only a win and results going there way they can get 4th so i can see it being a open game with home advantage just sneaking it, going for a 3-2 to the blues with Jelavic on target at some point!! {Ed024's Note - Good post mate, i can see jelavic signing off for the season with a goal as well, i can only see fringe players being sold
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If arsenal & spurs lose newcastle can finish 3rd mate ( if they win ) {Ed025's Note - big IF mate...they have got to get past the mighty blues yet!..
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12 May 2012 09:16:22
Clint Dempsey may have played his last game for Fulham after the 29-year-old was ruled out of the club's final match of the season with a groin strain. Everton, Liverpool and Arsenal are all ready to make bids in the summer.
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Everton manager David Moyes is set for talks with chairman Bill Kenwright in the next few days and hopes to unlock the transfer funds that could propel the Goodison Park side back into the top six.
Bbc sport {Ed024's Note - We could probably secure top 6 with just pineaar and dempsey signing
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Agree'd there ed, with 1 or 2 signings and the youth coming through I think we could easily get top 6 next season. we just need to keep our best players!
Toffeepidge
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