Everton Banter Archive January 12 2018

 

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12 Jan 2018 17:28:20
re, Walcott hope he comes with a BUPA policy.

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12 Jan 2018 21:05:20
Behave. He's missed 100 over 10 yr playing for a team that plays over 50 games most seasons plus he's had 1 major knee operation. Hardly talking a crock. Tell ya what let's sign wingers like Lennon who try hard but can't do anything other than work the flank. I'm stunned because last time I checked I think Arsenal are miles better than us.

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13 Jan 2018 01:00:33
The fact remains that for 20-30 mill he is an extravagance we do not need.

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13 Jan 2018 06:56:30
20 mil is a squad player in today's game. We paid £24m for Klaassen who currently can't even get on the bench.

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13 Jan 2018 08:32:48
I laugh when I read some posts. When people say about "getting rid" of players. Or not signing someone because they are "an extravagance we don't need". I know what people mean, but do they realise just how difficult it is to sign top footballers? There are clubs all around the world who are willing to pay agents, signing on fees and agree long contracts. Some of these clubs offer all sorts of incentives with bonuses and perks. A lot of them are in competitions like the Europa League and Champions League. Everton FC has suddenly found a way of looking a little bit more attractive, but the loyalty shown by our fans isnot replicated in the main by professional footballers. Even Rooney, a die hard Blue went elsewhere to win trophies and play in front of 60,000 odd fans each week. As yet Everton are still not a top 6 club. If we get rid of any more players and not sign proven internationals, that will probably weaken our squad. Wallcott is a proven international. I have 2 questions: Tell me which winger/ forward in our squad is better? And which player at other clubs wants to sign for us who is better than Wallcott? As far as I can see, Wallcott is better than anyone we currently have in that position and as far as I know Ronaldo, Marez, Messi etc do not want to come to Everton just yet.

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13 Jan 2018 09:05:37
Good post degs mate it's other posters who disagree that's need to give their heads a wobble mate.

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13 Jan 2018 10:45:46
Already stated that I believe Bolasie is as good if not better than Walcott, I am talking about the wing here. As Charlie Nicholas said though, Walcott thinks he is a number 9, we have just bought one and we have DCL coming through. A bit of a quandry and another problem that would need solving on top of everything else. It is defence and DM that still need further strengthening. The stats don't lie. How many games have we won lately? As Sam says in order to win games you first have to not lose and you do that by not conceding.

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13 Jan 2018 12:17:20
Great post Degsy. The fact he can play as a 9 aswell may stand us in good stead. If Niasse goes and we get an injury to Tosun or DCL it could be good business by big Sam.
As Degsy says Who have we got that is better? No one. Who could we get? With possibly Zaha and Antonio being the only decent players we could have a chance of getting and even these would be astronomical in value. Walcott has to be the next best.

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13 Jan 2018 12:45:13
I honestly don't think we would be in the running for Zaha. Certainly not for Marez and the likes. Walcott for me would be great. As for saying Bolasie is as good and Walcott's age etc. Bolasie is 28 too. Bolasie suffers injuries too. Walcott scores goals. Bolasie does not. Walcott provides assists. Bolasie does not (many) . Walcott can play center forward. Bolasie cannot as far as I know. Bolasie is one of our best threats going forwards. why not add to it with Walcott?

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13 Jan 2018 13:54:24
Aways a good read degsy mate.

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13 Jan 2018 14:21:16
I hear what you are saying about Zaha but would he risk going to another massive club. He had his fingers burnt at UTD so someone like us or Spurs could be a good option for him.

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13 Jan 2018 15:54:43
Forgetting in-depth analysis, views and opinions; found the bupa plan really funny. Sacrilage to have so many dislikes :)

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12 Jan 2018 17:17:07
Hope all the fans who are going the spurs game tomorrow have fun and enjoy the occasion. After all, it's the only time we'll get to Wembley this season.

Hoping for a draw but not very confident. Be good to see tosun leading the line.

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12 Jan 2018 18:34:00
Loved it. How can anybody give the thumbs down to good Scouse black humour?

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12 Jan 2018 18:50:46
No idea but just thought I'd lighten the mood a bit.

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12 Jan 2018 23:13:37
Some people take themselves too seriously.

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13 Jan 2018 08:33:40
Should we be singing the song? "We're on our way to Wembley and we shall not be moved? "

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13 Jan 2018 09:43:43
Degsy was a bit of fun. We've been to Wembley a handful of times ( 1 final and couple semi finals) since 95 so was just having a joke.
I've gone for a cheeky 1-0 to us at 22/ 1.

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13 Jan 2018 15:56:25
Tell me ma, me ma. haha.

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12 Jan 2018 15:45:37
Can I just say, the whole Theo rumours are horrendous. We are supposed to be fighting arsenal in the up coming years for possition in the premier league. And he is 28 years old, so now on the turn from his best. He is a bench player for arsenal and so he is to come to us and sit on our bench for 145,000 a week. Stupid. He doesn't make the grade for a team we want to fight for possition with, so why go for him. I really really hope saints come in with a better offer and we can put this to rest. I would chose lookman everyday before Walcott. Why ain't for going in for mahrez. (Leicester winger) he makes stuff happen. Walcott is so predictable. He kicks it in front of him and runs. That's it. His final ball is terrible and his shooting has got better in recent years, but still shocking. There must be better options out there. He's such a predictable purchase for S. A. we want to be fighting for champions league, not middle of the road team. Sam sort it out. Need a big signing. Not just rosin.
WishList:

Luke Shaw.
Jean-michael seri
paco Alcacer.

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12 Jan 2018 16:10:51
What are you on about, he scored 19 goals last season, who did we have in our squad who scored that many, he would be a very big signing for us, pace ability to score goals and make teams think twice about pushing forward, lookmen can't get a regular place because he not consistent, 5 mins of flare isn't good enough,

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12 Jan 2018 16:34:22
I know a lot of us would like Seri but we need to be realistic. He nearly went Barcelona in the Summer and probably has many offers from champions league clubs. We can't give that so why would he come to us. The teams needs more goals and pace and Walcott gives that.

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12 Jan 2018 16:41:37
So don't buy Walcott because he can't get a game for arsenal but buy shaw who has been publically shamed by Jose a few times and only gets near their team for cup games. Honestly, not a clue how you are rationalizing that.

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12 Jan 2018 16:56:59
Anyone who has been watching us lately can see that we are getting slower and slower. Without Coleman we have been virtually impotent on the right. Now we have Bolasie back we can see how bad we were without him. So add Walcot to the team and we will have more pace again. It’s a no brainer for me.

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12 Jan 2018 17:02:02
Walcott would be a good addition, pace, and goals. He's Arsenals 2nd top scorer of all time with over 100 goals. Keeping him fir and healthy is another matter, but I'd take him in a heartbeat.

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12 Jan 2018 17:25:39
I’d have him in a heartbeat as well him and Bolasie tipping defences apart or getting beyond defenders onto defence splitting passes from Rooney or Gylfi!
And if Lookman plays with this lot he will only benefit as well.

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12 Jan 2018 17:28:27
exactly pace is what we have been lacking, c'mon Sam sign him up pronto.

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12 Jan 2018 17:47:48
He's also pretty versatile, he can play left wing, right wing, no.10 (although we don't need anyone else to play there! ) and striker if necessary.

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12 Jan 2018 18:16:13
Realism is needed here. As someone else says. we are not a Champions League club so why would players like Marez come to us when other Champions League clubs are after him? Look at my other posts about goals too. We are so shy of goals in our squad that Walcott's stats are head and shoulders above anyone else in our squad.

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12 Jan 2018 19:58:15
He'll definitely improve us and I think he'll be hungry to succeed so I think it's worth the gamble. Bolasie, Theo, Sig and Tosun should be a good forward quartet with Vlasic and Lookman rotating in the wide positions.

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12 Jan 2018 20:16:43
Well OllBlue1878 you pretty much wrote my post.
Couldn’t agree more with that, especially adding Lookman and Vlasic in there as I think they’ll be great players in time.

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12 Jan 2018 22:25:04
Such nonsense. Fringe players at the big clubs are often more than good enough for most other clubs. Walcott would be a big step in the right direction for us. Sometimes seems to go missing but other days looks sensational and bangs in the goals. I'd be very happy to see him here!

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13 Jan 2018 01:05:00
pace lacking! really! Lennon. Kenny, Vasic, Bolasie, Coleman Some of you need a head wobble.

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13 Jan 2018 08:17:26
Yes we are lacking pace, really! Watch the games.

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{Ed025's Note - i cant see a problem in getting theo, some say the money is too much for a 28yr old and that his wages will be too much...NEWSFLASH..mr moshiri will not be knocking on any of our doors asking us to contribute money for it, hes better than we have so its a no brainer for me guys..

13 Jan 2018 13:01:00
I'm expecting him round for tea later ed. Surely i can't be the only one he's asking for contributions off?

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{Ed025's Note - he might just want your advice on the new ground cropper, i told him you know your stuff see mate..

12 Jan 2018 02:40:16
I have a question that ed002 could possibly answer. I have read today an article about Chelsea's new stadium which is estimated to be 60,000 seater and it is claimed will cost around 1 Billion to build looking at it from outside with little to no real understanding of how the costing works how is their stadium going to cost 500 mil more than ours will cost considering ours should be a similar sort of build in regards to capacity and transport links.
cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - Chelsea's planned stadium will not linkely be ready until 2024 but it is a far more complex situation than Everton's as the old stadium needs to be removed, there is land to be recovered that is currently part of the railway system and needs relocating and all of that adds up. I am not aware of the club saysing what the costs will be but a figure discussed wilth a third party was rather less than £1B. The stadium will also be very high end and again that costs money to do. Whether or not the re-instate the very nice music venue under the stadium or not is unclear, but I suspect not.}

12 Jan 2018 11:27:46
As well as what ed has said, I would imagine that building in London (especially large structures) would cost a lot more than to build it up north anyway.

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12 Jan 2018 13:44:43
Try buying a three bedroom house. I rented a flat for three months, cost me £320 a week.

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13 Jan 2018 02:05:06
Thanks for that ed002 I got the 1 Billion from BBC article I'm glad there's other reasons for the extra cost other than quality of the stadium as I'm hoping we will have one of the best in the country if not Europe.

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{Ed002's Note - The Spurs stadium is beginning to look impressive and thei plans for the movable pitch are innovative.}

12 Jan 2018 08:27:49
I don't think we need to make the same mistakes as in the summer and sign a load of players. Realistically we are looking at 7th or 8th in league no matter what.

Rather spend on quality and get 1 rather than 3 or 4. The only immediate position needing covering is left back - so rather than 20 million for Walcott - why not pay that for a young left back - we paid top dollar for Baines and he has proven his worth without a doubt.

Mori to come back leaves centre backs well covered - although one of jags/ Williams needs replacing in summer - I think we are being linked with Charlton center back

Goalkeeper fine

Right back - fine

Midfield - need the balance but gueye lookman Dowell bollasie Davies there is quality there - maybe besic jmac and schniderlin move on and that frees up cash for summer for midfielder (is it not with giving klasson a few games to see if he had the potential first)

Up front we are looking better now. Personally I'd like to see Sandro and the new lad given a chance together as I think Sandro could come good - obviously siggertson starts most games with Sandro coming on. Haven't even mentioned Rooney or new Nigerian lad who should be ready next year post injury.

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12 Jan 2018 09:31:51
Sensible post a new LB is all we really need and we only need cover there until the end of the season so maybe a loan or recall one of the youngsters. So unless we get our first choice pick in this window then we should wait. As for the balance of the side then I IMO it all depends on the managers formation RM and RK looked to play 4-3-3 or something like a 3-4-2-1 more than 4-4-2, hence we don't have wide mids that are good at defending as well as attacking. This maybe why we have a shed load of CM and wingers/ forwards that can play out wide. So unless we go back to a 4-4-2 the the balance is probably okay. I also agree we should give the new players more time to bed in as I think we have a couple of good prospects in Vlasic, Sandro and Klassen is still trying to find his feet as in the prem.

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12 Jan 2018 18:26:25
Who are you watching week in/ week out?
We need pace. We don't create chances. A LB might help that but not by much.
Also I'm not sure if you've ever seen Mori play but I can assure you he wasn't great before he got injured. On the ball he is terrible and his defending is only marginally better.
Mori was our worst defender when our defenders were good. So he ain't going to look much better now.

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13 Jan 2018 12:47:52
I wouldn't move JMac out since he came back he's looked the player we all remember when he first signed Schniederlin on the other hand I would sell at any price to get him off the wage bill as he adds nothing to the team.

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