12 Jan 2012 23:24:58
All you so-called knowledgeble Everton Fans,should stop bleating about the financial problems we all know that our beloved Club has,accept it,reluctantly,and stop all the public bellyaching towards Kenwright,The Board & David Moyes. If you don't any potential buyers/investors won't touch us with the proverbial brown stick for fear of future demonstrations etc. We will be bought in the near future,as long as we all remain positive and help bring Moyes & our team out of this injury crisis/loss of form with passionate support...as we always have done. The impending signing of Darron Gibson could turn out to be a very shrewd bit of business as the lad is only 24 and has fell out with Fergie,but that doesn't make him a bad player overnight. A change of Club could just be the making of him,and if we are honest,Arteta had gone stale here but just look at his present form since he moved to Arsenal. This is still one of the greatest football clubs in this country,and without a doubt,David Moyes is the man to manage us. If as rumoured Jelavic comes in then things may start to look a lot brighter. Keep The Faith Blues.
Everton Banter Archive January 12 2012
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12 Jan 2012 23:21:50
If we had 100 million to spend would any fellow everton supporters be happy if we went out and spent 20 on Rowell I don't think so 10 million at best unless the red s**te wanted to pay 20 mil so I really don't see him going for anything more anyone agree. BSM
Who the hell is Rowell?
Gary Rowell didnt we sign him from Derby in the 80's {Ed025's Note - i think we all know he means rodders..this is not an english language site!..get over spelling mistakes, its the least of our worries..
Rodwell
12 Jan 2012 23:04:05
All those who are saying Gibson isn't good enough, that Fergie's opted to bring Scholes back than play him... Phil Neville couldn't get into the Utd side, nor could Howard. Only this season has Nev gone off the boil and IMO Howard plays consistently well and is on a par with Martyn in terms of breathing confidence into the back four. We've had 4 or 5 good years from Nev. Gibson comes to us at a good age and I reckon when he buries that first 25 yarder, or crunches into Charlie Adam in the derby, all you doubters will take him to your hearts. Give him a break.
Gibson is a dud thats why he is gone , bad attitude and likes to go out . im glad he has left my club . man utd fan
No offence mate I'm a blue but even I can admit Howard makes too many mistakes and is always miles off his line and pays the price... And as for Neville he was s**te for united and he has just got worse I really don't see how anybody thinks he is a quality player! So as much as I will back Gibson I can't help but worry he will be just another united reject sent to the united scrap heap (which is unfortunately us) {Ed025's Note - not for me mate.. howard has been a quality keeper for me!..and neville, although slowing up a bit now, has been a great servant!..
Ed I probably did exaggerate but I'm just frustrated like the rest of us, just wish we could get back to what we were a few seasons back and start moving with the rest of the premiership {Ed025's Note - i understand mate, its a very frustrating time for all of us..
It sure is mate like I said I would back Gibson and now we have him hopefully he can come in and start feeding the ball forward might be the spark Timmy needs to get back in form I will be devo if we let him go because he truly has a passion for the club which is something football is lacking these days! How much truth do you think there is in him going?
12 Jan 2012 23:00:53
Can I just say to all the smart xxxxers who view this site if someone makes a small spelling mistake so xxxxing what is anyone perfect ? No so just let fellow blue supporters write banters without having to feel bad about spelling, ps lets give Gibson a chance before puting him down isn't it great to see somebody new coming into the club to give the players a lift. BSM {Ed025's Note - fair points them bsm..
Wlel siad mtae. (Wavertree Blue)
12 Jan 2012 22:40:55
What did the video say, wud love to know
Jc {Ed025's Note - which one?
Drenthe ed
Y is there others
Jc {Ed025's Note - your post just said ..what did the video say....without a topic jc
12 Jan 2012 22:24:55
Really choked me up this, should all have a watch (press the CC button on the bottom bar)
JM
12 Jan 2012 22:07:39
First team
Howard
Jonny Jagielka Buzz Bainey
Coleman Fellaini Gibson Drenthe
Anichebe Donovan
12 Jan 2012 22:00:38
how are people hearing gibson is having a medical all i know is that there in talks. according to sky sports news {Ed025's Note - he has had his medical and thats a fact..
12 Jan 2012 21:58:17
as a ireland and everton fan i pose this question y does darren gibson not get into the irelands ist team in front of glen whelan and keith andrews too very ordinary players but wid alot of heart answer because trappatoni doesnt think hes good enough
Because he dose not get his game and trap is to negitive the other to are prepared to sit back and not SHOOT or go forward.BSM
12 Jan 2012 21:33:32
I think the signing of Gibson can put to bed any takeover rumours,let's give the lad Gibson a chance because motes can get the best out of him,I'm all for selling Rodwell or Barkley to build a better team but I'm worried like other. Sales he won't get the money to use
12 Jan 2012 21:26:42
the fact, that fergison, would rather bring a 37 year old has been, out of retirement, than play gibson, tell you all you need to know about this player. I have nothing against this man, but the truth is, he is not good enough to to pull on a blue shirt, and , the fact that moyes thinks he is, tell us all we need to know about the state he has reduced our club to. {Ed025's Note - apparently he wanted to get rid, because he is a bad boy, i dont mean it in a bad way, but he is supposed to be a bit of a rebel..
Isnt the 37 yr old a tad overrated ,isnt he a ball winner whilst Gibson maybe,havent seen enough of him ,a ball player.COYB
12 Jan 2012 21:17:47
I know Gibson is a manc, but just coz whisky nose has seen his arse with him and doesn't play him doesn't mean he's really sh?te. He's a premier a league player of a good standard and will make a good addition to the squad. Give him a chance if he wants to come and pull the blue jersey on. You don't appear for Man Utd 60 times if you're really poor quality. I think for £1-2m he could be quite an astute signing. Abergeleblue
12 Jan 2012 21:13:32
Tony Fenandes gives Mark Hughes a £30m transfer kitty after sacking warnock who spent a boatload last year. How much do you think a new manager would get if DM was sacked.. I can just imagine it now, "welcome aboard big name manager, unfortunately you havent got a pot to p*ss in cos the clubs on it's ar*s" "that's ok, where do I sign"...NOT! That's why BK's not jibing DM off cos they'd never get a new manager with that tempting offer..
12 Jan 2012 20:37:19
Just announced by Greg O'Keefe the Everton reporter for the Liverpool Echo has announced on his Twitter account that Gibson is having a medical at Finch Farm tonight. Expected to sign tomorrow. Better than nothing.
Gonna have a tenner on him finishing top scorer end of season, should be good odds, especially as he can shoot reasonably straight........
12 Jan 2012 20:35:40
if we do end up signing Gibson he will have my full support! its not his fault the club are f**ked financially. Got to have a bit of faith in Moyes u only have to look at his previous £2-4M signings, Cahill, Distin, Arteta, Peinaar, Jags, Howard and Neville! What you think blues?
MickeyBlue
At least its not 35Mill!!He Haw....
Im with u Mickey Blue
George.
I think the lad is worth a shot Mickey. Moyes has got a good track record for small price signings so fingers crossed hey! Its Moyes' big money signings that havent been the best. It makes me wonder how he would get on with a big budjet.
Everton Al.
12 Jan 2012 20:27:50
Hi ed,
Just a quick one,
In a way i think this will be a good buy, He has prem expericne and tranis with good plays all day,
But if you look at our midfield we have been playing 2 CB's there for alot of the time.
So with Jags injury he can move nev/jonny back and play Gibson in mid, With injurys coming back in to the fold
Then i think with Duffy back as cover, he can focus on trying to get a Striker with our last Loan
yorkshire_blue
12 Jan 2012 20:09:52
I know Gibson isn't are first choice, but let's give the lad some support before he starts. I will give him my backing and lets see if he can make a difference in the last part of the season, and by the way are strikers have had chances and not scored. So he may create lots of chances but we might not take them. So give the lad a go if we sign him.
Jc
Better than nothing eh Jc? I thought we were getting nothing at all yesterday but Bill has suddenly found a couple of million in his back pocket! Strange that. Maybe he's been reading our comments... I think he should maybe check his wardrobe. He might have 20 million in his other pants!!
Wizard of Osman
One trend that is starting to worry is our increasing ability to hold on to players past their sell by dates. Previously we seemed to be pretty good at getting a lot of money for people who had failed to perform/past their sell by date- Arteta, McFadden, vaughn, etc now however we are carrying a mass of dead wood whose value is decreasing rapidly and who any person can see we should be moving on ASAP - Cahill, Heitinga, Anichebe, Saha, Billy and really importantly Rodwell. If we take another year to shift them, just imagine how little we can sell them for.
That's sadly why Moyes will never be a Ferguson. Forgetting the money for a moment - the big difference is Fergie always knows when to move players on. Moyes, I guess is just not strong enough.
Atleast its a in a new face in the squad hope he does well for the team not so sure with how close we are to man u when it comes to transfers, tho we are not their feederclub! I hope theres money for a striker my first choice would be defoe unlikely i know but i dont think moysie could take the wrath of the fans if another season goes by where we havent improved upfront! stokesylaaa
12 Jan 2012 19:20:42
Everyone is having a go at Kenwright deseverdly so, but can't help but feel questions need to be raised as to why so many young players at this club make the breakthrough, look like worldbeaters and have then gone backwards!
I blame Round and Moyes!
12 Jan 2012 19:14:05
You all moaning about Gibson. We had Neville an heitinga in centre mid for last few games. No creativity whatsover. He is an improvment. Great dig on him. Dont let boardroom unrest stop us from givin the lad the chance the he deserves. Chrisefc
I agree give him a chance but if he isnt good enough for man u then he shouldnt be good enough for r great club we should be paying 20 million for players not 1 or 2 but because of kenwrights 10 year disaster plan were competing for players with bolton stoke norwich etc no disrespect when we should be competing wid man u chelsea the reds**te city. we were and still should be as big as them and in my opinion bigger than some of them thats the sad sad reality that hurts
12 Jan 2012 18:43:28
Does anybody know how much debt we actually have? What I mean is what's the point of selling one of our star players say every six months we just paying the interest all the time. Say the debt is £45 million wouldn't it be best to sell say rodwell & Barkley plus the arteta money we would be debt free and can at least move forward and more likely to get a takeover, business men don't see the value that's in the squad like say Barkley in reserves what would his valuation be. What would be the value of all evertons assets players and ground ? Where did money go from sale of bellefield if we now renting basically we just remortgaged our training ground which we owned.maybe that's where bk gets his valuation of club
Howard £3m, jags £7m, heitinga £4m, baines £15m, rodwell £20m, fellaini £20m, billy£5m, Barkley£15m, rest of squad collectively say £15m
Total £104m plus value of ground and no I ain't bk accountant lol {Ed025's Note - i have read some stupid posts on here...but this takes the biscuit!
What are you talking about fella ??
What's stupid ?
What I mean is people say they think bk is asking to much for club just trying to see it from a different angle. In theory what others have said on this site is why doesn't he sell for £1 like ken bates I think it was. If we did and we had owners like venkys they could turn around sell all our top players as previously mentioned and walk away with a nice profit. Just a suggestion of what might be where bk is coming from. And when I suggested selling a couple of people to clear debt it makes sense if your overheads are to much you need to make cut backs to stay afloat. If you got mortgage on a house and hp on car and could not afford the repayments what would you do sell your contents of your house every month to stay even or would you get rid of car to reduce overheads. {Ed025's Note - the way i see it...if your house is in trouble..you dont sell the roof!...otherwise you encounter worse problems..
If roof went you would damage rest of property and not be able to continue, if we sold rodwell and Barkley we would still be efc and survive. It's all about opinions at the end of the day, I just don't want our club tobe struggling for survival each year due to our financial position. If you think about it we have sold big names before lescott Rooney arteta scary to think how much debt we must have been in.
12 Jan 2012 18:29:13
Listen, just for a minute listen. A striker who would IMPROVE our team would cost sh$tloads. Signing Gibson doesn't change that!
12 Jan 2012 18:19:24
Arteta out Gibson in
What next sell baines and get Wayne bridge in ?
Good job jaglielka is injured or he will be sold and get Titus bramble in.
12 Jan 2012 18:11:18
might be a stupid question, but who have we bought with the 24m from lescott? or did it all go to the bank?
We bought Bilyaletdinov, Distin and Heitinga with the lescott money, I really believe tho that kenwright said to Moyes quick go and and spend it before the bank gets their hands on it. As much as i would love bily to be class sadly i don't think he good enough and that why the money was wasted. but its all the other money that has came in which seems to have gone such as the money for AJ and Mcfadden which was about £15 million.
KP
Bily and Heitinga swallowed up most of it.
Ermmmm Fellaini.....Bilyaletdinov ??
Heitinga, Distin and Bily
Billy, jonny and distin. billy 9m, jonny 6m and distin 5m =20m
STUPID QUESTION...no offence mate but have you been abducted by aliens or something because im sure its that long ago we sold him i cant even remember who...er..hold on...whats his name again....come on bud get a grip.....ANYWAYS hope we get Gibson we aint getting anyone else in so lets give him a chance if it happens IMWT
12 Jan 2012 17:43:04
Oh my god !! never expected to be this distraught over an EVERTON SIGNING ....but honestly DARREN GIBSON .... just what his he gonna give us that we do not already have .......personally I really hope he fails a medical COYB .... Surely we can do better than DARREN GIBSON EVERTONPAUL {Ed025's Note - that was my first thought paul...but im prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, lets just suck it and see. and give the guy a chance, you never know, he could prove us wrong..
I felt the same when we sighed kevin killbane not the best but he did a job,i feel gibson is a mutch better player,lets not slag players of before weve gave them a chance,you never no he may prove you wrong............g
Me to ed, i just hope he can do a good job for us
blue kaz {Ed025's Note - i do too kaz...i suppose i was just hoping for a bigger fish..
A couple of my mates r manu fans and i tell u they r getting some laugh at us signing gibson they say utd should be given us money for taking him
12 Jan 2012 17:36:46
Queresma is on £72k pw at Besiktas - could be 'do-able' until the end of the season (bearing in mind we now pay felli £70K odd pw & Hietenger £65K).
Not got agreat scoring record though, has he?
Cant imagine Moysey saying to him "son, just go out there and express yourself, create chances, make things happen" - more like "when they've got the ball, you need to cover Tony Hibbert...he needs all the help he can get" ;)
12 Jan 2012 17:07:58
Arsenal fan in peace.
This was posted on the arsenal banter page- probably nothing you don't already know, but a good reminder of your history- with or without money, that cannot be bought.
Goodluck for rest of the season.
A Gooner.anyone see this in today's independent ?
www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/arsenal-are-the-top-team-of-the-century-742275.html
Basically its saying since 1900 we have the best average finshing position of 8.5 ! Liverpool are 2nd, then everton and man u 4th. Quite nice, sure we haven't won as many titles as the pool or utd, but we have certainly been a consistent club (and not because of some sugar daddy- we have 100+ years to prove it !).
You know I forget how succesful Everton have been- they have been a top club for a long time and financial problems have crippled that club (moyes has done a great job though)- lets hope "our board", take on 'board' what lack of investment in the team can do...despite having a very good manager, who covers up and makes the board look better than what they're actually doing for the club (i.e. get you're money kroenke and support wenger)!
LG {Ed025's Note - thanks mate..
And you'll soon be in the same boat as us LOL now you haven't got automatic champs league place stitched up - watch as your expensive stars all start to be sold / leave - then you'll appreciate what a nightmare the champs league has been for the rest of the 'also rans'!
12 Jan 2012 16:53:25
Just to elaborate on the darren gibson potential signing, I dont know why most are moaning on here, this guy can actually play a bit when given the chance, he just cant get into uniteds midfield cos he has about 10 of them to compete with, I remember a couple of seasons ago when he was getting a few games and in the champions league AND HE DID REALLY WELL, so he does have experience and yes " he likes to shoot on spec" which we are seriously lacking at the moment, he is direct, can thread a ball through..hang on, none of our current midfield can do that, a very welcome addition in my eyes to a very stale squad of players, get him in, and i would play him straight away, he does not need any time to settle....stop moaning guys and take this as a positve, who else could we get for 1 or 2 million...
BATTO EFC
Worries me that 99% of Man U fans say he's crap & they cant wait for him to go!!
Well we all know players who have left clubs in the past with bad names for themselves and proved people wrong.let's just hope he is one of them..I heard real Madrid fans said the same about drenthe.but he looks to be promising.u get my drift guys..I'm going to think a lil positive for a change coz hey f**k it what else do we have to look forward to..
Not to mention the Borussia Dortmund fans were happy to see Pienaar go, and howd that turn out?
12 Jan 2012 16:51:17
Everyones saying that Gibson 'will have to do'? hes young, powerful and looks as if he give shis all, which is the type of player in midfield we need! Seen some of the goals he's scored for united? since when has anyone in our team apart for bily scored wondergoals? In my opinion i think its a bargain getting him for 1-2mil..
And on other rumours, like all evertonians i would like to hope and dream about a massive 'man city' takeover, but it hasnt happened yet..may i say, but we just need to carry on as normal, with releaistic targets, maybe moyes can drop down to the championship for ideas? proved in the past, surley theres got to be atleast another 1-2mil left in the kitty!
But as an end, kenwright, either invest money from somewhere/anywhere! or sell up... easier to say than to be done thought?
Everton E
Wa do you think ED? {Ed025's Note - i just hope that he gives the rest of the team a lift...and if we get a striker, draw a line on under our recent form, and start afresh..
12 Jan 2012 16:45:15
Well done David Moyes. If you go ahead and spend what little money we have on a second rate midfielder (anyone remember Walter buying Carsley and Linderoth when we were crying out for a striker)You will have succeeded in achieving something that no one else has managed to do.You will have stopped me watching the team I have supported for 55 years.
What other deal have you done down the East Lancs? Barclay, Rodwell even Baines maybe on favourable terms.
Go now, take Round with you.
Kenwright if you are willing to sanction this, then you will have forfeited any support I have ever given you.
Carsley a second rate midfeilder, he ran our mid for a good 3 years, anyway remember the time we signed neville from united and everybody moaned about it, moyes got the best out of him, lets face it, gibson will probly do a better job than, billy, neville and jonny in the mid so give him a chance {Ed025's Note - thats fair..
Carsley ended up being a great peice of business - let's hope Gibson is ....(although I think that's what they call 'blind optimism')!
Wish we had super lee carsley he was a beast.................g {Ed025's Note - we have enough beasts...its thoroughbreds we need..
Carsley was first class mate
Thoroughbreds cost money ed and like to be fed caviar....were short of both..............g
12 Jan 2012 16:36:21
This isnt a rumour but im just saying that just because a few papers and it was on sky that were interested and just interested btw it doesnt mean theres a deal done by tuesday or wednesday or that your mums nans sisters unncles dog was speaking to kenwrights sisters nanas mums grandads dod at the vet that the deal is even the slightest bit close its just interest....
staffordianblue
12 Jan 2012 16:05:49
wonder has moyes forced kenwrights hand here over the arteta money, he says he is getting none next thing we agree a 2mil fee with man u for a player??
jon b
Think its more like 1m gibson is out of contract soon at untited so the fee is small
12 Jan 2012 16:01:30
Lukas Jutkiewicz having a medical with Middlesbrough after Coventry accepted a bid, Everton have a sell on fee in that deal I believe
The sell on fee we'll get from 'Jut' moving to Boro will cover Fellaini's wages for 2 weeks - or a couple of nights on the town for BK and his mates! :)
He's going for 2.5 million
12 Jan 2012 16:00:41
People slaggin off Gibson before he's played a minute for us need to be a bit more realistic. Yes a striker is paramount but a fresh face at last!
12 Jan 2012 15:59:26
A new signing will lift the team. Would rather a striker like but a new addition is better than nothing
12 Jan 2012 15:57:45
Any Blues in the London area fancy the FAYC tonight. Loftus Rd, £5 for adults, £3 for seniors/U16s. U8s free. 7pm kick-off. COYB
12 Jan 2012 15:38:11
Everton an obsession a religion a way of life (: Everton the club of the city since 1878. Rivalled but never equalled.The greatest there was, is & ever will be
I can guess that the 3 disagree's are from Kopites ?? {Ed025's Note - they are doing my head in...if only you could see how many posts i have deleted from them..
12 Jan 2012 14:55:14
i have been following everton since i had my junior blue in 95 do u remember them haha ! we experianced the bad times before kenwright took over but now its seems to be on a worse scale i jst cant see anything bright on the horizon its all negative from moyes i think since steve round came on bord we seem to allways get a load of inguries at once an with having a smaller squad than most prem teams we suffer baddly i think we need round out more than anything bring back irvine i say ! joe c runcorn
12 Jan 2012 14:27:10
Football is all about confidence. Player for player we are better than a lot of teams in this league. We have still played well without players like arteta in the past (one season he was injured for most of it). we need to get a settled team and a couple of wins to boost our confidence. we need to play drenthe from the start. no point bringing him on when we are playing catch up. donovan had a decent game last night and gives us something extra. If we can get another 2 siginings this month in midfield and attach we will be ok this season. with any luck we can get some new owners on board in the next few months and look forward to next season. we can only hope but lets be positive and start to support the players and manager even if we are fed up with how the club is being run at the moment. blueboy72 {Ed025's Note - "there is none as blind..as those that cannot see"...enough said..
Soz ed i forgot to put my name to that post.................stevie wonder {Ed025's Note - that really made me chuckle...cheers..
12 Jan 2012 14:17:29
even though we may not like it, moyes must think gibson has something to enhance the team, we should at least give gibson a chance, get behind the team and they will perform :D COYB!!!!!
Right we cannot shop at harrods so we shop at lidl simple as that what do expect for a couple of mill , if he signs lets give him a chance he will probably do more than cahill, nevile , and bily at the moment i think given a chance he may be ok lets be fair moyes has picked some gems up before i dont know how everyone can say the lads rubbish hes never had an extended run in the team at utd he may turn out ok we need fresh blood a couple of signings may freshen team up and a midfeilder who actually has a shot at goal lets give him a chance before we condem the man c.o.y.b
If we sign him I will support him but I feel as if we can get better for the money that is being talked about,perhaps someone from the lower leagues
Toffeeboy
Mate we dont shop at all...........we knock on are neighbours door and ask for a borow.............g
12 Jan 2012 13:45:08
Irish Radio reporting Darren Gibson Done Deal for 3 Million.
( Ed please Comment) {Ed025's Note - i have already made my thoughts known mate...but if he does sign for us..he will have my full support...
As he plays for the republic and it's on Irish Radio is that 3 million euros?
He doesnt play for the republic he carrys the water bottles
12 Jan 2012 13:34:03
Any legal eagles out there that might be able to answer this?
Bill K is on record that our club is on the market & up for sale. To those of us that love this club dearly, it makes no sense that nobody is interested, given that much smaller clubs have had (relatively) huge injections of finance. I understand Bill having to play his cards close to his chest, but so many of us want to know why no buyer can be found. OK, many will say that the club is overvalued by him, but how do we know that? Could it be that the net has not been cast wide enough? It would be good to find out if there are any decent, genuine potential buyers out there who have not been approached & don't realise what a fantastic piece of football history they could invest in.
Hence my legal query :- Would it be in any way illegal for a fan to advertise the club for sale on the internet - on behalf of Mr Kenwright, to guage reaction? Vastly expensive items are for sale on e-bay for example. Why not EFC?
OK, this might smack of desperation, but I think we would all do anything to see our club back at the top - where we belong.
Toffee Tezza
IMIT {Ed025's Note - good point tezza..
Anyone thats interested will be clever enough to no that the way the club getting run its going down the pan the longer you wait the cheaper it becomes..there will come a time when you can pick the club up for the costs of covering the debts
When there in league 1
12 Jan 2012 13:21:00
why don't we put a bid in for andy johnson at least he knows were the net is unlike saha what do u think eds {Ed025's Note - a backwards step if you ask me...like mcfadden...they were not good enough when we got rid..so why would they be now?..
Blackburn already have so they can have yak and aj up front, where have you seen that before/ oh yes that was when we were playing well in europe and finishing in the top 6 3 seasons running, its a long way back boys
12 Jan 2012 12:57:04
thanks to those who recommended the live streaming internet sites yesterday - I watched the game on there - not that I enjoyed it - like 2 hours of torture watching our donkeys given the run around by a spurs team having fun - at least one attack a minute for them, whilst our boys just hoofed it out of defence back to them - so they could have another go.
(Donovan must wonder what he's come back to).
However - after being on that site I'm wondering - why am I paying for 1. sky sports and 2. an adult and a child season tickets to watch this dross - especially when the atmosphere is so poor in the ground - no one sings any more - we all just sit in silence listening to the away fans do that whispering thing and then sing 'you're support is effing sh*te' and 'we forgot that you were here' etc etc - and they're right as well - (all 200 of them!) I feel like shouting back - 'well you try watching such a sh*t team every week and see how much you lie it' - but it doesn't chant very well that one!
the atmosphere in goodison is terrible these days
even some angry shouting or booing would be better than this complete silence
something has to happen and happen soon or the club is going to pull itself apart - and I wouldn't fancy being Kenwright if we go down.
12 Jan 2012 12:47:57
Defenders, would rather give Duffy his chance than bring in a loan, Neville & Hibbert has played CB before so could cover until Jags is back
Do we know how bad Distin's injury is?
Midfield, we have plenty of players who like to play in the centre, would rather we didnt buy Gibson and saved the 2m until the summer when Moyes then might get another 2m or so to add to it!
Up front, we desperately need a new striker, which will have to be on loan again! Tho I just cant see who!
KENWRIGHT OUT
King Chong
12 Jan 2012 12:47:23
Darren gibson! Well not the creative spark we are all after but its something! He can shoot and pass forward! So thats a bonus as our midfield are like crabs at the moment! Im not excitied about the prospect of signing gibson but im not entirley disappointed either! If we get him i will judge him on performances for everton and not past performances for utd!
Still want a bloody striker though! {Ed025's Note - fair point,,
12 Jan 2012 12:44:43
News of us being seriously linked with Darron Gibson is depressing! (Especially when we have Ross Barclay and Jose Baxter waiting for their chance & loads more potential than Gibson).
What a potential waste of £1 - 2m in tranfer fee's and £2-3m pa in wages.
The January Tranfer window is rarely a good time to be buying players....however the budget we may piss up the wall on Gibson could have been used to bring in a couple of good loan players until the end of the season!
The only position we should actually spend money on a tranfer fee, is a Striker! 'Maynard', 'Rhodes' and 'Matt Phillips' may be gambles, but we've got to take a punt on talent like them, cos we cant spend £11.5m on a striker anytime soon, like we did 'the Yak'.
As for BK selling & the state of the club. First thing is, we need to find a good buyer (not a Venkeys mkII) & if we do, settle on a reasonable price (BK thinks he's got the Golden Fleece in his possession, when what he has is a well supported club with loads of history but s**t loads of debt and undeniable logistical problems (stadium).
Best solution in the interim would definitley be to sell Billy (for as much as we can get....probably £5m) and Rodwell for as much as we can get (£20m). It's a shame he got injured before Xmas, becuase he was playing well and the press were singing his praises, which was driving his value up at the time.
With that £25m, we could sign up Drenthe on a perm and get x2 strikers.
Hopefully that would perk us up in the meantime until BK can sort a deal to sell before the end of the season (that's if the loopy b**tard will ever sell).
Realistically though - we've got 2 weeks left of the transfer window - so chances are, maybe 1 out and maybe one or two loans in.
12 Jan 2012 12:35:37
HOWARD
NEVILLE JAGIELKA DISTIN BAINES
RODWELL FELLANI GIBSON
BARKLEY
DRENTHE SAHA
12 Jan 2012 12:31:33
Personally I think Darron Gibson would be a decent signing, he's a genuine midfield player rather than having to play defenders (ie Neville or Heitinga) in midfield!definitly better than Billy aswell!
So if he is better than Billi sign him? You could sign anyone then.
12 Jan 2012 12:30:33
Howard
Neville Jagielka Distin Baines
Drenthe Fellani Rodwell Barkley
Rhodes Defoe {Ed025's Note - now that looks like a side i would want to watch!
Belfast toffee if only we could get the funds it would give us all a well deserved lift
12 Jan 2012 12:23:56
unt reject, thanks, but no thanks, gibson is truley third rate, we have a world class midfildeder, ross barkley, unless, god forbid, he is part of the deal.
I am sorry, but Ross Barkley is not World Class, he has proved nothing yet apart from he is a promising youngster. Lets not get ahead of ourselves. {Ed025's Note - unless we play him..we wont really know mate..
ED - I appreciate that we wont know until he plays, however all the hype surrounding Barkley is affecting his development. Moyes is letting him enjoy his football in the reserves and doesnt want too much hype/emphasis on his shoulders. His chance will come, but maybe next year.
Unfortunately there is a very good chance that he will develop elsewhere for a good sized fee, as we're a selling club these days, sadly :( Massive fan of Barkley and personally would play him a lot more
12 Jan 2012 12:18:54
Looking likely Darron Gibson is going to sign for between 2-3million. Decent player but yet another midfielder. When is moyes goin to get it into his head that you need strikers on the pitch to score goals!! It's gettin tiresum now.
POB12
12 Jan 2012 12:14:55
I appreciate your opinion on Gibson ed025. Everyone is entitled to there opinion.
Gibson can actually pass a ball forward and has the bottle to shoot, he's 24 and hungry to prove himself IF we did sign him, he wants to be in the Ireland squad for Euro's.
IF we get him i think it will be a very shrewd move from Moyes.
Paul EFC {Ed025's Note - fair play paul...its just that when i have seen him he has not impressed me at all..
He has not really impressed me either mate apart from a couple of good goals but a new signing will come in and work hard and show that he wants it on the pitch, hopefully that will lift certain player's.
You never know playing for Everton and get regular football may improve him.
12 Jan 2012 11:57:47
Darren Gibson, OK not what we were looking for, ok he looks abit ermm rubbish at times BUT there has been moments where he looks half decent his problem is GAME TIME BUST,....if gibson signs for everton then we should greet him like any other player, Neville came to everton and most of us were like OH NO...but moyes got the best out of him and neville has defo played his best ever footy at goodison Graveson was the same and he was excellent for us same as lee carsley...so lets see what moyes does with him, im not gonna turn and say NAHHH hes crap because it could make us look stupid...IM HOPING anyways..so come on lads lets TRY and be positive i know its hard lol...IMWT
12 Jan 2012 11:56:03
For £1m, he's got to be worth getting. He's at least as good as anyone else we've got - he's still young, another body who will freshen up the squad and will probably improve uinder Moyes. In our financial state, who are we going to get who's better? Let's be realistic!
12 Jan 2012 11:53:31
defoe did not look happy last night, put an offer in moyes, i will personally put money towards that :) haha anyone else wanna throw in a few penny's?
Mate I'll chip in
12 Jan 2012 11:44:39
Bill Kenwright wants to watch a film called field of dreams!! 'if you build it (or sell it) they will come'.....
12 Jan 2012 11:29:30
With everything being so very bad at the moment, surely the best thing to do is to sell Jack Rodwell and rebuild some sort of competitive squad to compete in the premier league... We all now DM is very shrewd in the transfer market and we ve lifted some very large wages in the summer with the departures of Arteta and Yak! COYB!
Selling RODWELL..not an option, we have a bunch of good youngsters there, baxter,barkley,rodwell,coleman,macelany,vellios...lets build with them not sell them..
12 Jan 2012 11:10:37
Yesterday we were all moaning about not having any money to spend! Today we are moaning about the possibility of taking a 24 year old fairly decent midfielder ofor £1-2m from Manchester United! Agreed a midfielder isn't a priority, but I would be more than happy having Darron Gibson sign for that amount of money. He does something that nobody else in our team (Drenthe excluded) does, SHOOTS OUTSIDE THE BOX. Got be better than Bily if nothing else.
Any news on how long Distin will be out ed?
Alastair {Ed025's Note - its a hamstring ally...so were looking at about a month, i dont rate gibson, but i agree he could not be any worse than bily..
Remember when we signed nevville, everybody was moaning, moyes got the best out of him, maybe same with gibson
12 Jan 2012 10:56:51
After watching the game last night its clear to see we need a creative midfielder and a striker, we were poor no goal threat at all! There were times when we played some good stuff in there half only to be let down by a poor pass or when we did play a good ball in for the strikers they failed to connect with it! Drenthe gave us something different when he came on by running at defenders and winning free kicks should of got a peno! Moyes has to start him next game! No way bily should be getting the nod over drenthe! Saha has to be dropped he doesnt chase anything down and has wasted every opportunity he has had! Anichebe is just not good enough! I would start with vellious up top and drenthe playing off him or drente on the wing and donovan with vellious! We have had too many games when we have not registered a shot on target! Thats embaressing! Needs rectifying very quickly!
Looks like were buying gibson from utd! Why? We need striker or a creative player! Gibson can shoot but dont think he is that creactive! Krancjar would be my first choice!
On a good note its positive to see moyes opting for a 442 away from home i was happy to see that but would of started vellious with saha and drenthe instead of bily! Im hoping we can get a better performance against villa! And the 3 points! Top 10 is well within our reach but if things dont improve then bottom half finish is likely possibly relegation battle! But im not fearing that just yet!
12 Jan 2012 09:33:37
Morning ed, Just listening to Moyes interview and he says he was happy with the overall effort of the team but a lot of people on her not pleased with the performance. I've only seen goals so cannot comment what is your take on it? {Ed025's Note - poor mate...endeavour yes...but skill level very poor, we never looked like scoring. we are a team that is low in confidence, lacking motivation, and short of skill, pace and craft..
Thanks for the reply..Sounds like a bit more work on the training pitch and hopefully 3 points at the Villa.
12 Jan 2012 09:33:05
Hi Guys, could do with some sensible answers to the following:
Up until a couple of years ago we were the same type of side as Spurs, I mean same attendances week by week, same type of players bought, same type of debt etc etc - What happened, why have we gone downhill so rapidly finances side.
Next what is going on with our team, no creativity, no strikers. I have tried to remember back to when the team started sliding rapidly downhill and I don't think it was the Arteta sale, I think it was when Peanut went, we were awesome when him and Bainesy where ruling the left side with every team we played, his workrate was amazing, always sprinting back, always overlapping and attacking.
I fear for our club as I do not think a buyer is in and one of our fellow blue noses had a theory yesterday that all the money is going to the bank to enable the Directors to make more money if the club was sold, he may be on to something there.
I know Moyesie is negative but his hands are tied a lot and no money for new players, crapp and I mean CRAP strikers and injuries, he must be pee'd off too.
I am starting to hope we hit 40 points soon cos it's gonna be a hard road until new buyers come in.
Degsybluenose
Always a blue through thick and thin
Difference between us and spurs now is they are able to buy then sell funds are reinvested in the team, they buy a better player to replace the one they're selling, Everton sell their best players to pay the bank! We then look at temporary loans as a short term fix, but the bottom line is we are not building for the future! {Ed025's Note - well said mate
Cheers Ed that's 2 well saids in 2 days obviously singing from the same hymn sheet!
12 Jan 2012 09:29:02
something needs to be done against bill and the board, i dont want a change with moyes just swap steve round for alan irvine, but something deffo has to be done, and its only us that will do somethig, forgett about the prince mask, we need to be hard and ruthless, we love the club but needs must, boycot, marches, protests, demo's everything to get some movement going, we also need to be notived heavily by the media to put pressure on the board, oh and did you know that our board is one of the richest in the country and not one of those tight b*st*rds wont put a penny in for new players, come on you blues
12 Jan 2012 09:20:59
Gibson will sign by next week.. Something to be cheerful about. {Ed025's Note - you think so?..
12 Jan 2012 09:03:04
What's this I've herd about some fans questioning Kenwright after the game at spurs and him calling them traitors to the club? Anyone else heard this? Anyone know any more info on it?
Neil {Ed025's Note - are you sure you are not talking about the video on the net, before the bolton game?...where supporters confronted him in the car park at goodison..
12 Jan 2012 07:49:57
Moyes has built his team around Fellaini - and the guy is too slow and his control is none existant sometimes. And he called us 'sub top' - it's you who's sub top mate - sub sub top! You're gonna get us relegated jogging slowly around the pitch.
everyone is playing badly as well - and when you look around the team for people worth selling - well there's about 4 that would raise over 2 million - the others are either not ours to sell or ready for the scrap heap
jeesus - how did we get to this point so quickly?
other teams like norwich and swansea playing quite decent football with teams worth no more than about 30 million in total, and we just look shot to pieces
I think something is going on at the club - I think Moyes has had enough and is just depressed and not bothered any more - we're in the brown stuff
get lost kenwright - 'looking for the right buyer' my arse - at the moment anyone would be better than you!
Are you joking ping a ball to felly anywere on the pich into feet or chest high and his contol is instant hes not slow and he covers more miles than anyone else in the team you get better players in and around him .BUILD OUR TEAM AROUND THE BIG MAN.......................g
He looks damn slow to me - and whenever their team (whoever) is attacking through the centre of midfield deep into our half, but before they've reached our backpeddling defenders, you think to youself, "where's our centre midfielders?" - and Fellaini is usually jogging back about 10-20 yards away from the ball / their midfielders
I know it's a contentious point - my jury is still out on him - but I'm watching him now as he goes about the pitch - and I'm really stating to think he's part of our problem - not our solution
let's watch him shall we and have a 'Fellaini Report' each week to see if he really is the bees knees or not? {Ed025's Note - im with you mate..good defensive midfielder, breaks things up, but not much more, offers very little attacking wise and is is very slow..
12 Jan 2012 06:27:52
Lets just hope 40 points comes before the end of the season
Degsy
12 Jan 2012 02:02:30
Listen I want bill out just as much as everyone on here but what are you looking to achieve with all of these posts do you think bill will look on here and think S**t i must sell right now... NO he wont if you want him to sell we have to force him out with banners and chants at the game , listen dont get me wrong he loves the club and i think he knows he needs to find an investor but if we want him to find one soon we have to protest with banners in the ground not outside.
12 Jan 2012 01:46:15
Ravel Morrison anyone? Seemingly endlessly linked with Gibson. Newcastle had a bid rejected for half a mil. Could pick him up for a million maybe 2. Real talent if a bit of a bad attitude.
12 Jan 2012 01:23:33
If an enterprising journalist, realey wanted to get the inside story about everton, surley the best way would be to get an interview with ian ross, unless he has been made to sign a confidentility clase to get his pay off, the man must have an axe to grind ?
12 Jan 2012 01:09:50
Another toothless performance, more injuries, poor performances again. All joking a side it's starting to get scary, we are so bad and negative. Saha and billy are giving me flash backs to when Brett Angel shamed our club by wearing our blue.
Moyes needs to stand up to the board and tell them back me or I'm off, how many of us would he win back if he showed that he had balls instead of being a yes man.
As for Gibson coming in, well he's useless I've seen him many times live for Ireland and you'd get more movement and creativity if you put a jersey on a corner flag.
Depressing times a head, something has to give, bill the liar is ruining our club. He is now the most hated everton owner in history!
Kurajan
I no am in the minority an am going against the grain but i hope we get gbbson i rate him if we get him for a mill thats a steal he scores goals and is positive when on the ball none of this sideways crap a moyes masterstroke,could be more effective than rodwell.we all have difrent opinions we will wait and see whos right........................g
12 Jan 2012 00:36:50
Here is a very truthful statement about all the baloney re Prince Waleed. I mentioned on one of my posts that I would track the truth down. Not to go in detail but my wife is from Kuwait and her family live throughout the Arab lands including Abu Dabi and Dubai. emails were sent to these family members asking of the verasity of rumours re Prince Waleed. Here is the answer received re my query, "about prince waleed purchase , no he did not, i have looked on the internet , he did not purchase it".
So in conclusion, regretably the rumour has not much truth to rely upon.
12 Jan 2012 00:28:42
What's this about gibson coming in for 2.5. Hope not he is a bag of w@*k. You heard anything ed? {Ed025's Note - no mate...but i hope not..
Gibson is a dud , 2.5 million should be paid to you if you take him off our hands . man utd fan
The club is getting ready for champioship football with players like Gibson ! The situation is very sad. {Ed025's Note - your right..