Everton Banter Archive February 12 2017

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12 Feb 2017 15:26:52
Nice little Sunday statistic for you. We are twice as close to 2nd in the league than we are to the relegation places . Suck it up Martinez.
Enjoy your Sunday guys.

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12 Feb 2017 15:31:53
Question about european qualification. I've read a few posts saying we need to get 6th place to get in europe next year but unless I'm mistaken 7th will be enough althoughth it will take Man U winning League cup and one of the top six winning the F. A Cup and we would start our season very early. Would everyone be happy to start the season mid July if it meant european qualification?

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{Ed002's Note - That is correct.}

12 Feb 2017 15:58:07
Dont like that europa league, has anyone really taken it seriously? Pl League games are always flat on a sunday. Would rather miss out if am being honest and try and push for top 4 next season . coyb.

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{Ed002's Note - Yes, clubs throughout Europe take it very seriously.}

12 Feb 2017 16:05:15
Thought so thanks ed.
Personally if we could bolster the squad I'd be happy to start the season earlier.

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12 Feb 2017 16:15:14
Premier league clubs don't though .

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{Ed002's Note - Of course they do - Chelsea took it seriously enough to win it. Perhaps it is just the Everton fans who don't take it seriously?}

12 Feb 2017 16:29:06
Am not speaking for every everton fan i just personally think that! . chelsea winning that was nearly 4 years ago don't you think its lost a little something . ?

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool got to the final last year, so obviously not.}

12 Feb 2017 16:41:17
You can't tell me the europa league didn't affect there league form they finished 8th.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool did not finish eigth in the league because of the Europa League. They also reached the League Cup final. Chelsea won the Euopa League and got to the FA Cup and League Cup finals and finished third in the league. If you are concerned that Everton are simply not able to sustain playing in Europe they can easily withdraw from the competition by informing UEFA.I am sure whoever is next best placed in the league will be very happy to have European football for their fans. Other recent winners like Atletico Madrid, Porto and Sevilla have maintained a serious interest in the competition whilst continuing to do well at home.}

12 Feb 2017 17:01:08
Its me who thinks the europa league is a distraction and worthless not the board of everton fc.

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{Ed002's Note - Then if Everton qualify for Europe you can moan and bleat about it as much as you like.}

12 Feb 2017 17:19:07
Will do, all am saying is we could do without the extra 15 games it takes to win that cup and focus on challening for the top 4 nxt season.

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{Ed002's Note - And then do without the 10 games it would take to win the Champions League in order to stay fresh for the season after. An interesting approach.}

12 Feb 2017 17:33:40
I'd be happy with a Europa season. In my opinion, would highten our profile and attract bigger names. Let's be honest. Are we a champions league club right now. No. We need to take things step by step and after 2 11th place finishes, most fans would snap your arm off for a European season of any sorts.

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{Ed002's Note - As would the players and the board.}

12 Feb 2017 18:03:25
I live in Cornwall (from the Wirral) and took my son to Lille away by megabus from Bristol. Then we went to watch Young Boys in Switzerland by Easyjet. The 1st game cost me about £100. I enjoyed it so much (the comeraderie not the game) I paid £500 to go to the Young Boys game. don't tell me Europa League is a waste of time. I enjoyed every second of the experiences! So did my lad. I think we had about 10,000 fans at Lille! It was amazing.

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12 Feb 2017 18:12:06
Not to mention winning the Europe league gets you into the champions league. If we have ambition we have to want European football to take the next step.

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12 Feb 2017 18:50:29
with the resources we have now I cannot see it being a distraction, complete opposite in fact!
And I feel those not looking forward to European games would be an extremely small minority!
Plus if I understand correctly the winner qualifies for the champions league so that's quite an incentive to win the thing!

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12 Feb 2017 19:07:06
Didnt say i don't enjoy european games the format for that cup is rubbish .

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{Ed002's Note - Keep hoping that Everton don't qualify and then you will be very happy.}

12 Feb 2017 19:12:21
European football next season would make it a little easier to sign our top targets in the summer that's for sure. And let's be honest most people like to see everton playing in it.

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12 Feb 2017 19:56:27
I'd like to see Everton win silverware. Punky. Europa league would, vanorana trophy, fa cup. Don't care what it is.

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12 Feb 2017 21:15:45
I would quite happily take my seat watching a Europa League qualifier against Romanias 4th best club in July then watch us put a reserve side out in a meaningless friendly against Notts County.

I bet you Mourinho and United go all out to win the Europa due to the fact it gets you Champions League qualifier place and that may be their only route.
We should be thriving for European Football not deriving it.
Lille was a great day out as Degsy said and I drove it and stayed over and took in some sights the next day, I for one want us back in Europe sooner rather than later.

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12 Feb 2017 21:24:51
What's the point of wanting to win matches, if you don't want to play in Europe?
I enjoyed my European trips, and wouldn't mind a few more please.

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12 Feb 2017 23:04:01
If we want to sign better players then we need to offer them European football. Koeman said as much when he outlined his plans. Plus there's the extra revenues from the games and extra TV rights, Europe is a must for me.

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13 Feb 2017 08:19:57
People complaining about European qualification. Mental.

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13 Feb 2017 19:03:53
A good completion and European experience, just needs a little tweak and that is not allowing the third worst team in the Champs league group, given a second chance by dropping into the Europa league.

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12 Feb 2017 10:31:59
Not directly related to Everton but still affects where we end up in the league. and maybe when we play certain teams. I remember a few weeks ago discussing refereeing decisions for the "top 4" clubs with a few of you guys. Remember what I said about Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsy Whinger being manipulators of referees. by crititicising them when a decision went against them. and being happy to pay the 20 grand fine the FA imposed on them afterwards because it was chickeen feed compared to 3 points in the league. 2 weeks ag Whinger was up in front of the FA for pushing the ref. Yesterday Clattenburg allowed a handball goal for Sanchez. ok he may not have seen that one? But not to send Gibbs off for what was obviously a take out when the Hull forward was clean through. Gibbs was not even looking at the ball! Well that just supported my theory. Clattenburg was grit scared to send him off because he knew Whinger was waiting to lay into him verbally after the game. Until they punish the managers like Ferguson, Whinger, Mourinho with fines that equate to the deed. eg take points off them or fine them say £1,000,000 then this will continue. The score was 1 nil at the time and Hull were on top. but 11 against 11 meant Arsenal held on and scored on the break in the last minute. 3 points. Worth the 20 grand fine or whatever it was he got.

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12 Feb 2017 11:37:56
If a professional ref is making decisions based on what a manager may say to him should not be a referee. I agree to increase the punishment but to say the ref is scared is absolute tosh. We have refs at our local Sunday league who get grief from the players, the managers and the seven fans watching the game. The grief they get is far more intimidating than the moaners in the prem.

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12 Feb 2017 12:06:20
I would not put 100% trust any Ref in any sport, we need to go like Rugby, (cameras)

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12 Feb 2017 12:21:02
What is the old saying, "where there is money there is corruption".

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12 Feb 2017 12:40:31
On the topic of refs Mike Dean had a shocker yesterday. Clayton should have a received a second yellow for a late challenge on Davis and Ramirez should have seen red for his challenge on Baines. Clearly he got into to trouble for handing out too many reds and now is too scared to make any real decision (even the obvious ones)

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12 Feb 2017 12:57:21
CToffee you are absolutely right. I don't believe there is corruption as such. I just think that there are those decisions where the ref has to make a choice and he isnot 100% sure. Ref's have to do it all the time. I have refereed kids games beefore now and know from my own experience that the Mum's and Dad's on the sidelines are waiting to give you a hard time, so you make decisions as best you can. but when you know they are an obnoxious lot and you are not 100% sure about something, it is really difficult to decide with a clear mind. Clattenburg should have 100% sent off Gibbs. Dean should have 100% sent off 2. I would bet that if it was the opposition of Arsenal yesterday, they would have all been off.

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12 Feb 2017 15:30:29
I think that's exactly it degsy. I must say I don't envy the refs as they're only really spoken about when they get a decision wrong and not when they actually have a good game. That being said, it does seem that some refs are more lenient with certain teams and are much quicker to make a negative call against a lesser team playing against an Arsenal, Utd, City or Chelsea etc.

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12 Feb 2017 15:24:43
Guys referees have always made decisions on what club shirt the player happens to be wearing. Clattenberk is all about him, he 'missed' clear hand ball and bottled the sending off. Dean is just a clown. Need to do what they do in rugby, yes it adds a little time on, but at least they get it right.

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14 Feb 2017 12:04:12
Of course the system is bent. Have a little read about Mark Halsey earlier this season being asked to turn a blind eye.

Have a look at Gerrard telling Clattenburg to give a red instead of a yellow. As a ball is crossing the line in a merseyside derby and the ref blowing for full time.

TV is the answer maybe but if these two incidents happen in full view of millions I'm not sure what this is going to change.

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12 Feb 2017 07:43:16
Ok, not 3 points but a very useful draw. Defence and GK doing their jobs well to keep a clean sheet. Borough might not score many but they had a few chances that Robles needed to save.

We're unbeaten still this year in the league and still have momentum. Koeman said he was pleased with the point and that's good enough for me.

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12 Feb 2017 11:28:48
Fair result mate but I reckon Funes Mori was a bit iffy at times, the lads worked hard for that result tough team away from home, GuernseyBlue.

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12 Feb 2017 05:34:14
Always nice to wake up on a Sunday morning to see one of the rags trying to sell one of our top players to the top 6 clubs.

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12 Feb 2017 09:49:53
It just won't go away even when he wants to sign a new contract but what's up with Barkley Eds papers say he's holding back on his?

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{Ed002's Note - I am afraid I really don't know.}