Everton Banter Archive August 12 2013

 

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12 Aug 2013 20:40:51
Ed what u think the chances of us signing chatome from p.s.g as I believe he is the midfielder Martinez wants, he fits the bill on the type of player Martinez wants and I believe he is available? {Ed025's Note - how much of a wage cut would he take though?..

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Any idea how much he's on Ed I didn't realise he was on much I thought about 40k? {Ed025's Note - psg pay big bucks..

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Quick check online says about 1.8 mill euros per year, so about 35k per week. unless he has signed a new contract that isn't too bad.

DJ

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12 Aug 2013 19:55:33
I have to say that if we keep both Fella and Baines and don't make another signing I will definitely be happy. We do have some really decent players in the squad, Barkley could have a big role this season, I think he will thrive under the Martinez way. Of course it would be nice to bring in a couple of faces though. My ideal line up if we had the funds would be:

Howard
Coleman Jags Alderwierled Baines
Mirallas Fellaini Sigurdson Pienaar
Barkley
Jelavic

Thoughts?

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Good team, but I have 2 points to make:
1) Martinez won't play 4-4-1-1
2) Not all Evertonians will be happy with Gibson being left out.

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12 Aug 2013 19:11:33
Ed, I have been visiting this site for years now and read the posts religiously. I should note that I was a season ticket holder for quite a few years until work posted me overseas. so I only get to see the games on tv (albeit live). However, back to my point. I am now of the opinion that its (everton, and prem league) all a bit of a circus. yes it gives you an outlet on a saturday and a few pints with the lads. and if yer lucky bragging rights from time to time. but it really ain't that important, and tbh the honest fans (self included) are slowly being priced out of the game. shirts, tickets, tv etc. more to the point our opinions don't count as the clubs know that we'll keep coming back for more. like lanbs to the slaughter you'll keep buying yer tickets etc (win or lose) Now that I realsie that fact. I finally found the enjoyment in just watching the game. so to all the lads and gals out there worrying about who we will or will not buy, how much money there is in the coffers, where we'll finish in the league. DONT. just watch the footy. {Ed025's Note - easier said than done mate, i get your point, but for me passion runs high, i can honestly say a lot of the time i dont enjoy it, im so desperate for us to do well, i enjoy us winning though mate.. :)

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Thats near impossible to do to watch a game and think "I don't really care what happens". I hardly ever enjoy the games I'm far too nervous but when we win especially against Liverpool or United its just magical.

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OP, no offence mate but the day I just watch the match and don't care how we do is the day euthanasia is on the cards. Plus which without my weekend mood swings and rants about the game the missus would be convinced I was playing away.

You say you have been posted overseas? Hot climate I take it? Stay out of the sun, it's not good for you, drink lots of fluids and enjoy Robbie bring back the school of science to the Old Lady.

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Cant be done by any fan who supports the club, if you didn't care you would'nt go the game or even bother watching it on the tele tbh mate.
I love Everton and I've got my 4yo loving Everton its the way it is.
Mr Blue Sky

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12 Aug 2013 18:45:39
ed iv been an everton fan for 33 years now and over the last 10 years it has been good but when it comes to selling are better players we leave it late and have no chance of getting any new in and then it leaves us all thinking if we just pushed the boat out just this once we could be playing champions league football you can not deny that so that's why am thinking the same thing is going to happen again.gibbo {Ed025's Note - i know what you are saying gibbo mate, but we have to have faith mate, or we have nothing..

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12 Aug 2013 18:26:18
Random I know, but I really hope Distan stays on at Everton after he's finished playing.
He seems to have his head in the right place, speaks well and I think he'd be a great influence to the younger players. {Ed025's Note - he could always stay on as our new milkman doc.. :)

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C'mon ED that's a bit harsh, he's been great for us over the last few years! {Ed025's Note - i love the guy doc, he has been great for us, and as i have said in previous posts, he is our most comfortable CH on the ball..

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Haha that's class Ed, seriously though Distin should stay on think he'd make a top coach one day. {Ed025's Note - me too mate..

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12 Aug 2013 17:33:34
Ed, what is happening with our transfers? or lack of should I say! its obvious from the Betis shambles that we need atleast 2 more CM to be competitive this season. everyone around us is making good additions, and we are getting cast adrift. what's your take on things? {Ed025's Note - i think we need to strengthen, for me we need 2 more at least, i think we will get them as well..

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You said that we would get in a striker in January Ed, we never did not your fault but maybe we don't have as much money as you think we do

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12 Aug 2013 19:37:09
I can't believe people are reading so much into a preseason friendly

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12 Aug 2013 09:51:06
Surely there is money to spend. Why have we left it until the last minute to buy players again? We always seem to be the one's starting on the back foot.

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We have brought in 4 players in wake up

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4 players that cost £6mill between them, u think that is good enough when we r getting outdone by the likes of Swansea WBA Cardiff?

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What players have they bought that would walk into our team

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Bony, Medel, Caulker (if we were playing 3 CHs) and Cornelius (who I really thought we were going to get). that's just off the top of my head.

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We've bought 4 players and we've not left it until the last minute seeing as there is still 3-4 weeks of the window left. as for "being outdone by Swansea, WBA & Cardiff"; if you think them teams will be challenging for Europe you probably need help. WBA have added Anelka & Vydra, that won't get them in Europe. Swansea have bought Bony, good striker, admittedly, but that still won't get them in Europe. Cardiff have bought Medel & Caulker; the rest of their team is the same that won the Championship last year, they're not about qualify for Europe. Wake up lads, they may of spent more money than us, but we already have quality players and as Ed and the other posters with common sense have said countless times, just because they've spent their cash already doesn't mean we have none.

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12 Aug 2013 08:42:56
Be disappointed with the performance yesterday by all means, it was not great was it. However the brigade of people saying RM only has a plan A and he needs a plan B need their head looking at.
People keep banging on about playing 3 at the back - he has rarely used that this pre season opting for example yesterday for a flat back 4. People keep saying we need a ball playing centre back if his system of playing it out of defence is going to work, yesterday due to Betis playing high up against our defence we did not play it out of defence so much.
There are several more examples but the point I am trying to make is yesterdays team set up and tactics would indicate a plan b or even a plan c or d based on the other pre season games and setups he has tried. Give the guy a chance, its not going to be an easy transition but give it time and maybe not this season but soon we will be advancing as a club.
Re the transfers and the money and do we have to sell to buy, let's just see what happens by the 1st of September, I would assume now Gibbo is injured a CM might be brought in this week.
Ultimately I just want to stress that I don't think you can genuinely question a new managers tactical ability or ineptness in 4-5 pre season friendlies so stop the negativity its these negative blues who are as much of a drain and a hindrance to moving the club forward as the lack of funds, players or manager.

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Shame we didn't get VP your solid source because with me winnings I could of funded another player ha

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12 Aug 2013 08:24:35
As usual we go into the next season with uncertainty and same old BS. Tired of Fella/Bains 'Bad cop, Good cop' image routine. We are told constantly that Fellani wants away but Baines doesn't. If that is the case why has LB's no new contract been signed?
Martinez had to work on a miniscule budget at Wigan, regularly coping with selling one top player every season, but managed to make a £20m profit in four years while also reducing the club's wage bill by a quarter. Was this picked up on his CV Bill?

Oh and then they got relegated.

Before the abuse starts flying in, one poster asked yesterday, 'Why the pessimism?'
Well, If you know our recent history. !
If those two players go and some of the very dubious 'replacements' being touted around are signed up, is there anyone out there who seriously believes we can challenge for a top four spot?
Get it sorted BK before your last loyal supporters get as pi***d off as the rest of us.

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12 Aug 2013 08:12:36
Bk needs to sort this out now no new first team players have been brought in just a couple of squad players on the cheap a lot of big noise was made about change this season but it looks like after all his spin we will start the season with the same team as last year
Felli an baines will both stay as no one
Will stump up the cash for them tv an season ticket money is the bank so bk
Is happy no major signing this week will be a disaster as watching lower teams like Southampton an Norwich who along with Newcastle west brom will try to push us this season they have all strengthened while once again we stand still sorry for the negativity lads but bk has filled are heads with bs
I reall hope his CL prediction comes true

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12 Aug 2013 06:03:23
Hernandez is always offside u watch when he plays a more offside then any other striker"I wudnt take that I rather bid for defoe or bent

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He can be ofside as many times as he wants as long as he scores!

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Jelavic is the worst for it mate check the stats

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12 Aug 2013 02:03:01
The game vs betis was well let's just say tiresome I was impressed with howard distin barkley and shockingly also heitinga I thought his range of passing was superb and he wanted to get stuck in and win the ball which is something he never did at centre back but apart from them 4 players everyone else was quite bad baines didn't seem to want to get invlolved pienaar and mirallas didn't run at people and osman was just bad at everything and is it just me or whenever gibson or jagielka got the ball they hoofed it up to jelavic who was also poor should of had 2 goals and didn't hold the ball up but I suppose he's never been good at that so much for the new passing style of football but I am still looking forward to the new season and I'm very excited for it and I'm not going to say sack martinez just because of this bad performance yes I was dissapointed but the players looked tired so get some rest and play better against norwich simple as that now let's get behind the manager and the team and let's look forward to a good season

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11 Aug 2013 23:12:49
Was at the game today and have got to say was far from impressed. Osman had by far his worst game iv seen him play, Gibson was very poor and Barkley needs to stop trying to do everything himself and pass a little more. Tactically we were all over the place. If it wasnt for Howard and Baines we would have been 4-1 down at half time. I know its only pre season but its not giving me any hope. We need some fresh creativity in the middle. The team now reminds me of the squad just before we got peanuts back. Running out of ideas in the final 3rd. On a positive not Mirallas once again showing us what a class act he is.

Who would you fellow blues go for?

PTF

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