Everton Banter Archive December 10 2019

 

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10 Dec 2019 23:14:53
Ancelotti sacked, mmm just saying.

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10 Dec 2019 20:20:06
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new podcast entitled, See You Next Thursday

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10 Dec 2019 19:52:10
This is not going to be a, popular Post, but an honest one.

Me personally I would of loved poch, but we have to accept the likes of poch, rafa, even perriera has apparently knocked us back now. We are not as an attractive of an offer as we think we are. To us blues who wouldn't want the job!?

But to a manager who is use to champions league, winning trophy, we are a, long way off that at present.

It pains, me to say it but I think we will end up with moyes with Duncan no2. More out of desperation than anything else, as more an more candidates rule them selves out.

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10 Dec 2019 20:13:25
As a team who are not competing in Europe or challenging in the league I agree probably not an attractive proposition.

However I’m sure that the manager will be getting a wage on par if not more than the top 6 managers in the league which is an attractive proposition.

Hopefully we can get a good manager who is willing to try and get us competing in the league and back into Europe and invest in the project because they will clearly get well rewarded for this.

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10 Dec 2019 21:03:18
Maybe the other way around big dunc no 1 moyes no 2 but would rather not see moyes back.

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{Ed025's Note - im a no to dithering dave as well dunc..

10 Dec 2019 21:34:27
Sorry disagree, I believe we are a very attractive proposition. All the incoming manager has to do in their first season is get us into the top eight to six ( five to four second year) , they will be given money to spend and the chance to enhance their reputations. All while receiving a very good wage.

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10 Dec 2019 23:37:53
4th or 5th in the second season? Are you being serious? You think Everton will finish above 4 of either Leicester, arsenal, city, utd Liverpool, Chelsea, spurs in 2 seasons? That's is not going to happen. If we got 6th after 2 years I'd be over the moon.

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11 Dec 2019 00:37:42
Ok where were Leicester last season? Look at them now. Change of manager change of format.
Their are not a lot of good teams in this league right now, so yes I am being serious. A good manager with the right backing could do it in two years.

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11 Dec 2019 00:47:56
Not surprised Pereira has turned us down. 30 million to stay in China for one more year with low tax rates and be set up financially for life or come to a club struggling in England with a record of getting rid of managers every 18 months and doing nothing for their reputation.

I agree with glt59 above where I think he is saying Ancelotti might be a good call. He's not that old at 60 and has won everything
Louie Van Gaal a bit older but very successful although his football isn't terribly attractive it's better than Big Sams and gets results
Emery might want to put right his reputation and prove himself in the Premiership but then it's us then taking the risk as he might not be able to
Moyes - no. Look at his CV. No trophies, Last 4 jobs ended quickly. If he hadn't been Everton manager previously he'd be in the not good enough bin without a second thought
DF - a massive gamble - not for me
Pochetino, Arteta, ten Haag would all be great signings but they're not going to come are they?
Howe, Dyche. Both have positives and negatives but I doubt they would come and certainly not before next season. Dyche would be my preference as, although he is not an Evertonian like Howe, I think he would get 'Everton' more
Who else

What a mess.

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10 Dec 2019 22:36:37
But at the first sign of a blip, you could be out of a job with your reputation damaged. (though 1/ 2 of the last 4 did go on to manage international teams) .

I’m not so sure we are that great a proposition for many managers. Not whilst sitting so low in the table with an unbalanced squad and clear issues with CB and CF positions. It’s a risky post to take on and I’m not sure who would rise to the challenge.

What do you reckon Ed25 - Who is out there that you rate to do the job and would possibly come?

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{Ed025's Note - i wish i knew BR, all managers are a risk and i have been happy with our picks originally so i dont think im the person to ask mate, i can tell you who i dont want...moyes, howe, dyche or allardyce, i have nothing against british managers but their brand of football is outdated and naive imo..

11 Dec 2019 09:46:39
I'm in same boat as you ED025. Happy when Martinez, Koeman and Silva came. Accepted the reasons behind Big Sam (for about a month) . And look where those 4 got us.

Agree with 3 out of 4 of your don't wants but believe Dyche could do a job for us. He could sort out our defense and once we got our 4 midfielders back I think he would look at playing 2 up front - he does at Burnley and could play attacking football with our squad more so than the players at Burnley. I also think he gets the Everton ethos and the fans would warm to him

Anyway with my record so far who am I to say?

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{Ed025's Note - we are as bad as each other bw, we would,nt know a good manager if one bit us on the arse mate, im staying out of it this time and hope whoever gets the gig is the right fit..

10 Dec 2019 19:32:15
Ed002 have you any further updates on the managerial position at Everton. I seen Benitez confirming what you said about him last night (in a job and not going anywhere soon) . Now I’m reading Perreira.

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{Ed002's Note - I am of aware of any change today.}

10 Dec 2019 19:12:46
It's not Vityor or Rafa then. the hunt continues.

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10 Dec 2019 18:55:02
So let's stick with big Dunc for the mo, no rush, passion, pride, and support at man u rubbishd on Sun, Tosun and Kean up top please Boss COYB.

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10 Dec 2019 19:49:21
Calvet lewin worked his sox of scored two goals got man of the match an you want to drop him.
No thanks how about Calvet lewin an Keane.

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10 Dec 2019 20:18:33
CL scored 2 goals and your now his biggest fan, how many chances has had he had in the past, fair do, s he is one for the future, but as a lead striker, no sorry, with a top name next to him i agree, ok Tosun or kean and him, we need to get in Man rubbishs face on Sun COYB.

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{Ed025's Note - he would be hard to drop after last week graham, he led the line in tremendous fashion and scored 2 goals what more do you want mate?..

11 Dec 2019 08:45:50
The problem with lewin is it's if he turns up watched v Leicester and he couldn't be bothered throwing his leg half hearted to try and block a ball then a different player v utd I understand he's young but at his age he should run non stop every game.

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10 Dec 2019 18:28:50
You know Emery might not be a bad choice. He's experienced the league now and so will be a little wiser second time around.
He actually has a pretty decent record prior to the Arsenal stint. And as I understand it he did not get the backing from the arse when it came to securing players he wanted.
Just a thought.

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10 Dec 2019 19:05:46
I wanted Emery before Silva and still think he has something to offer but it is a risk.

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10 Dec 2019 18:12:48
There doesn’t seem many managers of the high calibre we need out there at the moment.
I seen Benitez saying he wouldn’t rule it out in the future not sure how long he means. Maybe Big Dunc and Moyes until end of season and then try for Benitez then.
I can’t see too many other options. We need someone with Premier league experience or I it will be another gamble. There’s a good chance West Ham and Man Utd could look for a new manager soon along with Arsenal.

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10 Dec 2019 17:10:32
Phew. I believe that's what they call "dodging a bullet"
Shame that the board have been saved by the man they wanted turning us down!
#chaos.

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10 Dec 2019 17:48:13
Dont understand why you are so relieved he has ruled himself out. Who do want as next manager?

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10 Dec 2019 17:56:56
Have you seen his CV?
I'm not sure who I want but just not someone that has managed second rate teams and been sacked from most of them. he was after all sacked to make way for Silva at Olympiakos for christs sake.
Ancelotti, Benetiz or any proven non mercenary manager will do!

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10 Dec 2019 18:01:47
I am with Brett on this, the mess we are in is a dogs of war effort, I would leave Dunc in charge for a couple of games at least, why undo all the good work from last Saturday.

Ride the wave, fans onboard, team onboard, why change so quickly.

I am not suggesting long term, unless we continue like last Saturday, let’s keep the momentum going for the time being.

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10 Dec 2019 18:04:15
What we all need to realise is however much we love the club we are not an attractive proposition for any managers with ambition. We haven't won a trophy for 20 odd years and haven't finished in the top 6 since god knows when. We'd all love a top manager but it isn't going to happen. We will probably end up with Moyes who hasn't won a trophy in any country since he was born.

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10 Dec 2019 18:55:22
Dont want a mercenary but you would have Bernitez. Why do you think he went to China. True meaning of the word mercenary.

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10 Dec 2019 23:48:14
So is ancelotti. I'd give it Dunc until the end of December. Keep looking in the mean time and re access the situation in the new year.

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10 Dec 2019 17:08:15
Pereira turns us down, we need to move on now Duncan will have the Utd game let's just hope they do their homework now apparently our first choice has gone.

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10 Dec 2019 17:25:04
Yup let's hope so Lee.

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10 Dec 2019 19:13:22
Pereira was sky's 1st choice not ours.

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10 Dec 2019 20:11:12
Who says he’s turned us down? He’s in a job and has a contract until the end of December apparently. He’s said he needs time to assess his next move. Maybe the £25m plus a year he’s being offered in China is clouding his judgment!

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10 Dec 2019 10:22:41
seen a lot of blues online wanting dunc to take charge for rest of the season, my thing to say is let's not get carried away. great result on saturday and brilliant for him, but one result doesn't mean he should be given it until the end of the season, everton should still be looking to get a manager in now that they see taking the club forward into beyond the end of next season so he can start building with what remains of this season, do i think vitor periera is the man? not so sure.

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10 Dec 2019 11:08:28
WBlue, the dust will settle mate, It's just a sudden jubilation thing lol we are not used to it are we 😁.

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10 Dec 2019 12:02:56
Agree with Blue247, (there's a first) .

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10 Dec 2019 12:33:04
DFS, let me know when you go for a brace (I'll have a drink to celebrate )

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10 Dec 2019 13:11:35
oh no absolutely blue, i'm made up for him and still absolutely buzzing now, just wouldn't want it to turn sour for him if he continued, as he's even said himself this is a job for a top manager.

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10 Dec 2019 13:22:15
Just a quick question to above posters, forget rest of the season, my question is this.

Would you want a new Manager for next Wednesdays cup tie at Goodison, or Dunc on the sideline.

For my penny’s worth, I would have Dunc there to get Goodison rocking under the lights.

After that then if needed bring the new Manager in.

For now though, I would take it a game at a time and not rush a new Manager in just yet.

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10 Dec 2019 14:02:46
its a tough one bignev, told everyone who would listen we'd beat chelsea as they're in a bit of a slump at the minute, poor against west ham and villa 9even though they scraped a win) leicester is a different game who will bring their best side, its difficult its a tough game either way.

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10 Dec 2019 14:45:10
It is wblue, that is why I think we need any advantage we can get, if we go a goal down, with Dunc Managing, the crowd will still get behind the team.

However with a new Manager, the crowd might not be so forgiving.

Personally myself, I would have Dunc in charge of the Leicester game, keep it simple and get stuck in like they did last Saturday.

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10 Dec 2019 14:52:15
Well it's down to the crowd to keep the atmosphere rocking even if a goal down, big dunc in charge or not. Goodison shouldn't need an icon on the touchline to get them motivated.

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10 Dec 2019 15:08:42
If we can get our 1st choice manager in then get him in. If not then Dunc would be my choice and reevaluate on a game by game basis.

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10 Dec 2019 16:27:42
i'd like to think a new manager gets a crowd going regardless bignev, all be it if its moyes big sam maybe not, but if its a manager say gallardo optimism rises again, dunc has the connection but normally the new manager factor kicks in either way.

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10 Dec 2019 17:03:16
I can see logic in keeping him in charge till Christmas period is out the way, we will need everything Dunc gave that team on Saturday the basics which is what we need at mo not someone who is going to take time to get his philosophy across. It’s quite obvious there was no plan to deal with Silva sacking we all saw it coming weeks prior. They should of been planning for couple of months, so don’t rush now while there is someone that is getting the players to fight for everything,

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{Ed025's Note - i cant argue with that metz..

10 Dec 2019 18:07:57
Agree Metz, Dunc did the basic things and the team knew what they had to do, bringing a Manager right away could or could not work.

He has to get his set play across which might take a few weeks, for the time being, we saw what Dunc brought to the team, no note pads, no over complicated tactics, just sheer hard work and closing players down.

Why rush for now.

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10 Dec 2019 08:56:41
Looks like we are getting a Portuguese manager who is not regarded that highly with a CV that doesn't live up to expectations, DEJA VU.
Moshiri needs to stop taking advice from Liverpool supporters.

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10 Dec 2019 11:12:28
Spikey, this is why I am hoping for an Interim, so as to give this 'impetuous' board breathing space mate.

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10 Dec 2019 12:05:26
Not so much the board but Mr Moshri trusts his advisors despite on the surface at least mistake after mistake. Compounded now by the 'good' Managers looking at us and thinking, no thank you.

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10 Dec 2019 12:13:14
Exactly, just reeks of desperation trying to get this guy in before Sunday.

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10 Dec 2019 12:39:26
Spikes, ''Sunday'' bloody hell that's what I call ''desperation'' Mate 😟.

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10 Dec 2019 14:43:50
Here we go again. People slating a manager we haven't got yet. They will slate everyone of them if its not their choice and even if it is they'll be on here moaning if he doesn't win his first 3 games.

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10 Dec 2019 15:43:31
Ricktee, you have come to the wrong place if you want 'everyone' to think like you mate. I believe it's called having an opinion, or something like that.

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10 Dec 2019 17:41:27
Ricktee some of us want the best for our club, translate the moto.
Always the same with some on here, if you don't agree with them then you are not allowed to post.

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10 Dec 2019 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 10th December 2019

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