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16 Aug 2022 21:12:13
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16 Aug 2022 19:37:02
Just seen a rumour linking us and United to Arkadiusz Milik.

Will be lazy journalism due to us both needing a striker so badly but i would take him in a heartbeat.

Always liked him during his Ajax days. Is big, strong, good finisher and can play up top on his own or in a 2. Still a decent enough age as well.

{Ed002's Note - Arkadiusz Milik (S) Offered to Manchester United as part of a player exchange. Juve may take him as cover - will want Champions League. Certainly available.}

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16 Aug 2022 17:48:17
Looks like a deal has been agreed to bring Gueye back to Everton.

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16 Aug 2022 16:45:40
Dilly Dally off to Turkey apparently.

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16 Aug 2022 17:10:11
Any truth to this Eds?

{Ed002's Note - subject to financial agreement

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16 Aug 2022 17:20:15
I see Fabrizio Romano has reported on this, could be good all round as I assume this would mean us avoiding a hefty fee to Spurs? Shame he hasn't got any form going here because he certainly was a quality player.

FR also saying we are still looking to complete the Gueye deal.

{Ed002's Note - Ignore the thought of not paying Spurs.}

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16 Aug 2022 17:34:20
Yep Besiktas eh.

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16 Aug 2022 18:33:11
Not paying as much then Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - There is a contract in place which defines the cost.}

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16 Aug 2022 19:08:49
Fair enough ed2.

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16 Aug 2022 19:18:08
Ed, the Dele deal was constructed in a way i haven't seen many of before.

Are you aware of how much money we would owe Spurs if he left his window. Was it around 10m rising vastly if he made 20+?

Appreciate the insight.

{Ed002's Note - Yes it is recorded on the TMS, but it is unimportant for hear.}

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16 Aug 2022 20:08:27
Ed, wasn’t there a structured deal with Spurs based on games played etc?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, with provision for early sales.}

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16 Aug 2022 15:53:28
50 million and I can't see Everton turning it down, the risk of holding out for more, Chelsea pulling away and us keeping a player that's possibly had his head turned,! Do we see that as a win?

{Ed002's Note - It would be a very good return - as would £40M and Batshuayi.}

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16 Aug 2022 16:08:44
40 and a Striker a good deal.

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16 Aug 2022 16:10:36
I can’t see how we could turn it down, clubs seem to have reigned it in with transfer fee’s this summer. There are a few exceptions but mainly this window we’ve seen some top players move for sub £50m, the days of 100m+ transfers seem to be gone (or on hiatus) . With that in mind it would be an exceptional offer for a player who isn’t the finished article. I would sell, hoping it would be reinvested.

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16 Aug 2022 16:43:16
Yeh very good business. striker is paramount. And apparently Deli Ali off to Besikitas on loan if rumours are correct!

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16 Aug 2022 16:49:48
Do you think Batshuayi would come to us Ed?

{Ed002's Note - Frank Lampard is very keen on him and Gilmore but MB has 2 or 3 clubs already talking to Chelsea about him. It is possible.}

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16 Aug 2022 18:51:53
Ed02 if Lampard is keen on Batshuayi any ideas why we have not moved to sign him.

{Ed025's Note - he is considering his options mate..

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16 Aug 2022 20:26:32
cheers ED25 i personally think getting Batshuayi in for around 10 mill would be good business.

{Ed025's Note - a decent option mate..

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16 Aug 2022 09:46:23
I'm seeing people call Gordon the next Ross Barkley. I strongly disagree. People say that we need players for now and not potential. People also say, give McNeil time. Even though his stats were worse than Gordon's last season. It doesn't make sense. So if we sell for 50m like people want, who will we replace him with? How much will that cost? Our big problem is we have invested dreadfully under Moshiri's ownership and the danger is that it continues in that way. That causes me to lack faith that we will replace Gordon well meaning that we lose a hard working enthusiastic young hungry player who is from the city and replace him with someone who we are trying to get off the books in a couple of years. You know what, I kind of hope that he goes as our fan base doesn't deserve him.

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16 Aug 2022 11:23:12
If Chelsea offered us Gallagher as part of the deal I would take that all day long. Gordon is good but I don't see a top top player there. Gallagher on the other hand has the potential to become a top midfield player. Not only is he a very solid defensive midfielder, but he scores goals as well (more than Gordon did last season) .
Also given the recent signings we have made it would suggest that the owner is now allowing the manager and DOF to actually do there jobs. So think any funds would be spent wisely.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea are not going to offer Gallagher.}

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16 Aug 2022 11:24:54
More importantly people are presuming that if we sell we will reinvest in the squad. With the state of the club as it stands it may be the case that the majority of the cash is used to offset our P&L obligations. How would everyone feel if Gordon was sold for £50M and only £10M was used to find a replacement. The other £40m kept in reserve just in case we need it at the end of the season should we not reach our expected final position in the league and therefore be down on expected revenue.

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16 Aug 2022 11:39:46
I want him to stay bud I think losing Richarlison is enough but every player has a price and if they offered 50 million with most of that cash upfront I'm not sure the club could say no.

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16 Aug 2022 12:33:44
I read that £45 mill has been turned down.

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16 Aug 2022 12:44:53
if you don't think Anthony Gordon is replaceable with £50million then i'm not sure what Anthony Gordon you've been watching the last 12 months
a good talent yes, a £50million player? no.

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16 Aug 2022 12:48:57
Others have raised good points in seperate posts re: Gordon.
His finishing and passing are lacking. I think even if he meets potential, he's not long term a top 6 player.
We've found a good one and under different circumstances you would keep him.

However at 50m+ he is a great sale.
The job has been done then. We've unearthed a talent, given him game time and sold for a today profit. On to the next.

I'm not suggesting immediately either. We have cover in the wing positions.
We could potentially buy another young player for a fraction of the price, that could offer the same work ethic, which granted we would lose. But perhaps they will bring the some of the finishing we need for example.

Given our troubles with FFP, it's not unreasonable to see us cashing in and righting the finances even further. The sale of Richy won't last forever and hasn't magically got us out of financial troubles.

Just my opinion mate.
I believe we have enough funds for a striker at present and if not, part of the sale of Gordon could top that up, so we can bid strongly on goals into the team. But I'm also certainly not against much of those funds from a potential Gordon over-priced sale being kept to strengthen the club's position going into future windows, when new talents will become available like always.

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16 Aug 2022 15:31:40
DanAus - Spot on fella.

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16 Aug 2022 15:43:41
How old was RB when he left us? 23 24? a few England caps? Regular 1st teamer for what? 3 or 4 seasons? Occasionally wore the captains arm band when Baines went off. Gordon isn't even any of those things. He may well be but I don't rate him when I compare him to the lads in and around the England squad. Can't see him ever getting in the squad. He has so much to improve where as RB was only missing playing with elite players. That's partly why he didn't break in to CFC 1st 11 because they're so strong and talented and partly why its a shock he didn't become a mega star surrounded by all that international world class talent. The big pay day and bright lights of London were enough for him and his attitude stinks. Would Gordon be any different? I agree he's a bright future if he works hard but the money being spoken of is ridiculous. So ridiculous that he's surely going to be sold. I can't believe I'm saying this but for the 1st time I am 100% in agreement with Sourness. He gets to the ball fast enough but then falls over. He can't shoot can't pass and can't cross or take a free kick. He is getting a lot of attention because he can pass a man so long as he isn't breathed on. He has a really healthy spiteful streak and he's a local lad but that last point is blinding people who are desperate for him to succeed. He's a golden egg frankly and the 50m is too big a deal to turn down. That would improve our squad. I also agree with Chelsea fans who almost all don't want him. He'd never get on the pitch. He'd disappear into the wilderness and join the Everton conveyor belt to oblivion. He could very well have come out and distanced himself from the speculation he could have signed his new contract but he hasn't. He is like any young footballer, he wants the big pay day and he wants to win things. He definitely wants to go. He may well end up the best midfielder in the country but I don't see how.

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16 Aug 2022 17:00:46
Sa90, if we get the players in and still have the £40 Million available, then instead of waiting until Summer, there is the January transfer window, where that money could be put to good uses, for a couple of tweaks, but only if needed.

As for people saying look at Gordon’s stats last season compared to McNeils, what I would say is ignore them, if Gordon does leave and McNeil is given his favoured position out wide, then have a look at McNeils stats, that’s if we get a striker in who McNeil can cross to.

I have very high hopes for McNeil and confident he will come good.

Everyone said Lampard and Gerrard cannot play together for England due to being too simular, but they played and lots of times as well.

This is what it’s like at the moment with McNeil and Gordon, both simular type players but when they start together, they are both trying to make runs in the same area of the pitch.

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16 Aug 2022 18:26:05
BS, you state all of that like it's fact when, in actual fact, it's just your opinion. Bit of a character assassination right there!
AG is nowhere near the finished article, that much is obvious. Will he improve from here? None of us know but the fact that someone from the U23's has come through the ranks, and is getting the games to help him keep improving, is exactly what the fans have been crying out for. A lot of the things you slate him for will improve through training hard and match experience.
Why should he come out and say anything? The fan base knows he loves the club and he wants to play for Everton. He will have a team of advisors telling him what to do, these kids don't even make their own decisions these days. Talks were started over the summer over a new contract, would his advisors/ agent be telling him to declare his unwavering love for EFC or use the interest from other clubs to get him a better deal here? Everton have already posted on social media saying the lad hasn't asked for a move or to talk to other clubs and that he is very happy here.
50m is an amazing offer for a player of his age and experience, especially in comparison to some of the fees being paid for full international players, but it has come at the wrong time. We can't afford to lose him and Richarlison in the same window. We struggled last year and these two were probably up there as our best players. Take that away and I dread to think what will happen come the end of the season.

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15 Aug 2022 22:36:32
Ed, any truth to these Gordon rumours is he likely to go in your opinion? And where are we at with gueye surely we need to be thinking about a contingency now? Are we still in talks for forwards been a very very quiet weekend links wise a bit worrying in all honesty.

{Ed025's Note - we are still in for a striker (or 2) BT. AG wants to stay as far as I know but things can change very quickly mate..

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16 Aug 2022 06:49:48
Personally given our history I say we only sell if AG wants to go. I say that because that tells me what kind of man he is.

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16 Aug 2022 07:55:09
if any club wants to offer 40 million+, take it. The boy can't pass, can't head a ball, has no range of passes. Yes he has a little bit of pace but most times the defender is more clever than him and if he can't go past the defenders he dives onto the floor. At the moment we need football players not potential football players.

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16 Aug 2022 08:58:42
Other problem is we have a habit of selling potentially good players and buying potentially bad ones. 40m earned does not mean 40m well spent.

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16 Aug 2022 09:24:36
Why on earth do we want to sell one of our best players? We cannot shop in the same window as Chelsea but you want to sell them the crown jewels? Are Everton now just a development club with limited aspirations!
A lot of people are criticising McNeill well we have Gordon who is already better and will continue to improve under Lampard!

{Ed025's Note - needs must at the moment I’m afraid wakka mate..

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16 Aug 2022 09:37:44
Gone very quiet on Gueye, needed a DM for months. Didn't think about what if, when loaning out strikers, 2 games in 0 points. Chelsea would have been 1 or even 3 points with a Striker, lessons learned? Villa we try same setup (no striker) lose 2-1 (the 1 being an own goal) , lessons learned? Forest Next, I'll take my boots!

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16 Aug 2022 08:16:12
Ed, anything on gueye? Doesn’t seem to be anything said on him for a week or so now starting to think we won’t land him hence the reason garner and gilmour links have come up again. Really hope we don’t go for either of them.

{Ed002's Note - Idrissa Gueye (DM) Final day January interest from Everton - no time to replace him so no move. Everton have again spoken to PSG about the player and have a broad agreement over the fee but the player has a financial demand which is holding the move up. With Onana signed the need for Gueye has in my view fallen away, but the Everton DoF remains keen.}

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16 Aug 2022 10:42:15
Ed025 I totally understand, and like so many I am frustrated with the inept running of this great football club!
Known as the Bank of England in the seventies and a member of the big 6 we are now miles off the top table.
We so need stability and Lampard needs time and money to rebuild, but as a manager he must be frustrated after losing Richy to now have to lose Gordon as well.
He like us is frustrated at the time these transfers are taking, we desperately need to holt the rot and get 3 points this weekend!

{Ed025's Note - I agree wakka mate. Transfers for a club like ours at the moment is very difficult. Selling teams need to bring in players before they let their current players go. So it’s a bit of a catch 22 situation..

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15 Aug 2022 19:44:56
Eds is it true we offered AG a new contract 3 weeks ago but his reps have made it clear he won't be signing it?

{Ed025's Note - I have heard nothing about that pauly mate..

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16 Aug 2022 00:32:33
Without wanting to sound synical and past history, I would not be suprised if Everton leaked the story and then hit us with we tried to offer him a contract but he wanted to leave.

Sure I have heard that old chestnut, too many times to count.

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15 Aug 2022 20:02:47
2 nd bid from Chelsea £45 million and Gordon wants it to be considered.

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15 Aug 2022 20:50:55
Always except a 3rd offer in life that's my moto ;)

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