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20 Jun 2018 21:36:00
Ok to try and put a realistic view on it some facts: World Cup Final is 15th July. The transfer window closes early this season on August 9th. That is just over 3 weeks. Although we may sign players from teams knocked out, it is unlikely that we will be signing players still involved until after 16th July. In fact any negotiations with players are likely to start on or after 16th July. That leaves 23 days to make signings. I expect that is when Everton will start things really moving and why I have posted previous posts. Remember that other teams might also be waiting to see if they can get certain players in the same way as we are, so the first few days after the world cup is likely to be a scramble with players having a few choices of clubs. Some in Europe and some not. That's when I expect us to start making announcements. probably around 20th July and onwards.

degsyp

1.) 20 Jun 2018 22:49:54
Nothing to stop clubs granting permission before agents thrashing out the initial part of negotiations and then some teams will probably allow discussions on rest days whereas others may not
Just have to see what can be done.


2.) 21 Jun 2018 08:08:41
There's also plenty of good players who are not at the world cup for us to look at too. Probably best to hold on for a bumpy ride until the window closes.


3.) 21 Jun 2018 09:22:06
It's worth noting that 16 teams can do business from the 28th June. 8 more on the 3rd July. 4 more on the 7th July and 2 more on the 14th July.
We can also buy an English player after the final.


4.) 21 Jun 2018 15:38:03
Very droll smit. We actually look good so far while big teams struggle. Who know how far we can go.
Also fred has just completed his move to man Utd so we can sign players who are active at world cup. Seatbelts on for roller coaster couple of months.


 

 

20 Jun 2018 14:13:40
I wonder if ED002 can help with a question that relates to some of my banter posts. I don't wish to appear a know it all, but some posters on here have been talking about getting rid of 11 or 12 players and signing of many players. I did a couple of posts saying that it would be highly unlikely that we offloaded more than 2 or 3 senior players due to lucrative contracts and players unwillingness to take salary reductions. Added to which, after the world cup there is less than 2 weeks to tie up deals with the transfer window closing 2 days earlier this year. My question to Ed is, "Do you know if there are any senior players likely to leave and are there any players in current discussion with Everton at an advanced stage? " and I think I can guess the answuer to part 2 of my question.

degsyp

{Ed002's Note - This lust of players that are available is the same as I gave acouple of days or so ago. You are right about the mine, as the club will be paying up to $75k for Rooney and £xM for having three managers on the books still.}


1.) 20 Jun 2018 14:30:03
Sorry didn't see your other post Ed002. Wow we are still paying Rooney that much? And 2 previous manager salaries! Plus which players would be happy to take a step down and a salary reduction? I think Everton have had too much turnover of staff in recent years and tied themselves up in contracts galore! I will have a look for your previous post. Suffice it to say, I expect little change in the staff at Everton.


2.) 20 Jun 2018 23:27:03
You don’t get to be a billionaire by making daft business decisions. If Moshiri has made mistakes, he’ll have learnt from them. Give the new set up a chance. Some players will leave. Even if we are paying a percentage of their wage, it still reduces the overall wage bill. Rushing into signings is what got us into trouble last season.


3.) 21 Jun 2018 12:28:36
but the 75k I take will only be for one year? As it makes no sense to pay that amount for the 3 years reported as it would cost us less to keep him for 1 year on his full salary.


 

 

 

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20 Jun 2018 14:35:26
For banter page please: Interesting info from ED002 re Rooneys wages and ex managers wages on the EFC bill. I asked him about possible signings and players leaving and his comments should be read by those who think we are getting loads of players leaving and others coming in. My one bit of positive stuff is Holgate is still only 21 (I hadn't realised he was so young) so I see him as being played a bit more this season.

degsyp

1.) 20 Jun 2018 15:11:51
Not sure what relevance your post has Degsy? Unless it is a told you so, point proving excercise to the posters who have disagreed with you.

As much knowledge as Ed002 and yourself have, neither of you or us as well, know for sure how many will come in or go. What ever happens happens.
Posters on here know how much the squad needs to be trimmed and we have the banter between us as to who we want in and gone.
That is mostly what this site is for. A bit of fun. Not an exercise in proving points or rubbing noses in it.
Chill out and enjoy the banter for what it is.


2.) 20 Jun 2018 15:50:24
Degs, you made a point to Ed on the rumours site then decided to bring it over to the banter site. Don’t you think that trying to hog both pages is a little bit narcissistic?

Just accept people’s opinions and don’t be so insistent that yours are accepted. Insistence leads to fear. Fear leads to hate. hate leads you to the dark side. You don’t want to be supporting that lot do you?


3.) 20 Jun 2018 16:14:06
Lol love it Toffee ace. As this is a banter page people have the right to banter, are we right are we wrong who knows!
The club are in a delicate situation needing to trim things back in certain areas but we will just have to see what transpired and put our faith Marco and Marcel

Exciting times though so let’s get behind whoever dons the shirt.


4.) 20 Jun 2018 16:41:54
Love it Southern Toffee mate lol.


5.) 20 Jun 2018 18:49:32
Degsy ED002 mentioned 9 players are potentially leaving the club at this present time. You would expect more interest as the window develops.

The important thing for everyone is to not take what others say so literally.

I said about 15 player names the other day that could go. I'm not saying they will, just that they could. That's what we are all saying INCLUDING the ED's.


6.) 20 Jun 2018 18:53:26
I love it Toffeeace. But I will Neveeeer turn to the dark side! My father was a Blue Jedi and I too am a Blue Jedi. …. actually my Father was a Red! So me and Luke do have some similarities. jovial and banter like enough for you guys?


7.) 20 Jun 2018 21:43:30
The problem with this banter stuff is that when I put a post on I sometimes get say 8 replies. saying some things the same and others slightly different things. so when I try and respond, everyone thinks I am being contradictory to their particular post. I agree sometimes I sort of band posts together. eg many people were talking about getting rid of 11/ 12/ 13 players. and yes some were saying these players "could" go but not meaning all would go. But I cannot answer every post individually or then people would accuse me of hogging this site. So guys, no offence meant to any of you. but I still say we will maybe get rid of a few kids or lower earners and maybe one or two high earners. But like Ed002 said, we are still paying 2 managers and up to $75k of Rooneys wages and add in to that the salaries that Williams, Bolasie and Jags and a few others who are likely to see less game time this season. We might squeeze more out of Jags but at 36 he is likely to be unable to play 2 games a week when needed and if he picks up a knock could find it slower to recover.


8.) 20 Jun 2018 23:03:52
I honestly don't know what your point is.

I don't have an emoji gun that I could put to this: (picture gun here) 😟 (me)

But I think you all get the gist.

I need sleep.


9.) 20 Jun 2018 23:35:26
I think what he is really trying to say is that he wants Jags to play every week, he wants to reply to everyone individually and paying only £75k a week to Rooney and the wages of 3 managers is a privilege.

Oh and something about expecting 13 players to be sold on the 20th July.

Well, I think that’s what he said 😉.


10.) 21 Jun 2018 08:06:05
I was trying to say I have obviously
8issed a few of you off without trying to. I was trying to get my point over with an explanation as to why I thought I had 8issed you off (unintentionally) . I then tried to point out that I think the 8 or 9 players who may leave will in the main be youngsters and not the ageing squad members. Having said all this, it appears I still *iss people off so bye bye folks. Just like Grumpy Toffee seemed to do. and in his latter time, I will do the same and stop posting here. Have fun yourselves agreeing with each other and having no alternative views. Cheerio.


11.) 21 Jun 2018 10:31:17
Hi all reading through these post and felt I needed to reply. we are all entitled to our options and may not not agree with the poster. Simple solution skim past it and don’t respond. It’s a banter page not a personal battle, we lose good input if people are put off posting and didn’t encourage new people. Keep up degs maybe.


12.) 21 Jun 2018 11:50:19
Well said degsy, surely this is all about are different views, be very boring if we all agreed, I disagree with many on Silva but I hope you prove me all wrong, because his appointment is making me very miserable this summer.


13.) 21 Jun 2018 11:31:06
degsy, don't let the bullies chase you mate, your entitled to your opinion just as we all are, just that some of them live in a fantasy football world where all their dreams become reality, with no sense of proportion, remember these quotes " in Moyes we trust, in Martinez we trust, in Koeman we trust, " now it's blind faith in the new lot, total dreamers.


14.) 21 Jun 2018 12:38:52
I don't think you've peeved anyone it's just that 90% of your posts are the same ones.

You don't think we will sell many players. That's fine.

Our squad has some older players that you think need replacing. Again fine.

We haven't replaced players from when Moyes was at the club. Fine.

Players people have mentioned are on high wages and you think they won't go. Boom fine.

That's your opinion and that's fine. Most others have a similar opinion but are not so pessimistic on us clearing out a few whether it's 3,4 10 or 20 players it doesn't really matter.

What i'd say is leave this conversation to others as you've exhausted your point and talk about something different. That way people won't say 'you've said this all before' and you won't get frustrated at the lack of recognition of your argument.

You raise good points and contribute better than what I and most others do. Just mix up your subjects a bit. 😉.


15.) 21 Jun 2018 12:47:28
I get what your saying but think it will be the older players going and a very youthful team staying, reading reports here and there and maybe there's truth behind them, Silva looks to be giving everybody a chance and saying to players stay if you want but your a bit part player.

Problem I see is this new set up needs time and patience and that is as short as optimism here lately.

I can't see as many players as last year joining maybe 2 or 3, but expect a lot out on loan or sold.

Am I looking forward to the new season well yes and no. But think we will see a new Everton and hopefully a more balanced team. But what ever team we see I urge you all to not expect too much this season.

And degs the typed word looses it's meaning and is interpreted by the reader in his/ her own way, however misunderstood a post is there all part of what makes this site.


16.) 21 Jun 2018 13:32:01
Dark clouds. Have some faith mate. Even Dark Clouds have a Silva lining.

Sorry, couldn’t resist 😂.


17.) 21 Jun 2018 13:56:53
Hi Degsy,
I am Tony grumpy toffees son.
The reason for dad not posting on here from time to time was the fact he had frequent stays in hospital, he had brain tumours and never being the tea and sympathy type he kept those hospital stays to himself. Now dad had a way about him that he could make a Nun swear and an SAS bloke cry and that is why he loved these forums so much. His views were his views and he did not care how many people did not like them, he used to say if people do not agree with his point of view then it is because he has not worded it properly.
I do not know your history on here and as an outsider looking in do feel you have been picked on a little bit, but I can hold hand on heart and say I thought you were trying to do what dad was so good at and that was to provoke a reaction. If indeed that was your intention then it has worked but regardless if the reaction was one you wanted or not you must stand tall and roll with it. If on the other hand you were not looking for a reaction then stick by what you say, do not walk away in a huff because others do not understand your perspective, stay and fight. You wrongly chose to name dad as an example for you to walk away from the site, I have given the reasons dad was away a couple of times but as you know he never once shied away from sticking to his views on here regardless of how much negativity he was given. I think he gained a lot of respect over time for having that stance, and if it is something you feel the need to emulate then come back and post more threads and stick by them, explain why it is you see it that way and start enjoying the site.
By the way I totally understand what you are saying.


18.) 21 Jun 2018 14:37:44
Well Son of Grumpy, I really appreciate what you have said and thank you for doing so. I would like to add something: Some months ago, both your Dad and me posted quite a few similar posts. They were not what a lot of people wanted to hear. I used the term "caustic" and I don't want to tarnish anyone's view of your Dad in any way. But I felt like a few people were picking on him and said so. I stood by him and backed him up on a few debates and in fact both him and me stopped posting for a while. as a matter of protest at the way we were being "picked on". We actually stated that. (maybe the truth was that he was going into hospital but didn't want to say? ) At that stage, your Dad did indeed come back on although a lot less frequently and sometimes to offer me support when others seemed to be "bullying" my comments. I know that sometimes people differ yet can still discuss in a civilized fashion. eg me and BlueJohnUns often differ but can always be civilized and explain things and still differ. I also know that I get on people's nerves at times. And yes at times I do post to get a reaction. but like your Dad I also reach the point where I just don't want to comment any more because of insults, accusations of repeating myself or just being ridiculed. It is not that I am throwing my toys out of the pram, but like I said, if I respond, I am accused of repeating myself. If I am in the minority with a view and repeat myself by responding I get "ganged up" on. So sometimes it is just easier to let the majority have their view and compliment each other that everyone has the same view. I guess its a case of banter has turned into self gratification and an inability to see that someone else has an alternative view. I also guess I am repeating myself because my age makes me forget that I have said something once or twice previously. I am genuinely sorry for bringing your Dad's name into this debate but I do know for sure that if he was still around he would have been the first to defend me in what feels like a gang up against me. But fear not, I am going to do like what he did and told me he was doing. have a time out and not get involved in the insults etc. But I am not in a huff. its more a feeling of can't be *rsed! With regards to your Dad, I managed to break my laptop and therefore had a couple of months off line. I was devastated to hear the news when I came back and I hope you all are coping ok and in reality it shows that Football is secondary to life. If only just! Thanks for your support and the support of others above. … I will have a time out in order to reflect. I will see how I feel at a later date. COYB.


19.) 21 Jun 2018 15:24:38
I fully understand Degsy, If things have reached a stage where it is no longer enjoyable for you then in my view it is right to stand away for a short while. Try not to make it too long though, because time catches us all up eventually, what I wouldn't give for dad to be able to support you again.
Don't leave it long, think of something new to post about and get stuck in. Remember if no one pokes the bear the world becomes boring.


20.) 21 Jun 2018 15:35:45
degsyp BJU hit the nail on the head you need to mix up your post subjects a bit more. What you say is very valid but as your post say pretty much the same thing in different ways you are more likely to get a negative response as to a positive one. Which would then I suppose feel like you are being ganged up on. I think you will find that with your original posts a lot of us have agreed with you. Most of the time I just don't bother to reply to post that I have already responded to in a positive manner, others may do the same.


21.) 21 Jun 2018 16:06:52
Long time poster and massive admirer of Grumpytoffee. Its not the first time I've said that Grumpy was by far my favourite poster on here. Don't think I ever disagreed with one of his comments. I couldn't believe degsy mentioned him in above post. Plenty of times I wanted to mention Grumpy on here since his passing but out of consideration I didn't.

I couldn't resist this time. I was one of the most regular posters on here some time ago. Since your father no longer posts Son of Grumpy I am not as eager to come onto these pages as I miss his views so much. The thing I loved about him was he had views that the majority of other posters could not comprehend.

That is not an insult on the majority of other posters but a compliment to your father Son of Grumpy. He had a very holistic view on how the club was run and took matters into consideration that very few others could think of. He thought outside the box and was a real leader.

Imho that was the reason some others did not see or believe in some of his points, because he could see and understand situations that very few others could. From his posts you could tell he was a very broad minded person. Legend in my eyes.

Now degsy. I'm concerned about you degsy. I know you say you didn't know about Grumpy but if memory serves me correct you were on here around the time of his passing. Maybe you have forgotten you were?

I'm being totally sincere in saying that. I'm not trying to get at you. Honestly your posts do come across that you push your ideas and views a little bit. I wouldn't take it to heart though. Every poster has little faults on here including myself. None of us are perfect.

Seriously though. Mind yourself and don't let other peoples views get to you. Its not worth that.


22.) 21 Jun 2018 16:13:27
Fair enough sa90. I take what you say. But like I mentioned, I sometimes get asked questions from other posters asking me to clarify and I do feel like I am repeating myself. I also have some people agreeing with parts of a post but not other bits, so respond in a general way. it is difficult and I am not being pushed out but feel that maybe I am just needing a rest from it so maybe speak to you guys again soon.


23.) 21 Jun 2018 17:15:41
enjoy your sabbatical degsyp.


24.) 21 Jun 2018 19:29:46
Now I'm going to tell you off degsy, in fact everyone on here who thinks anything is personal that is written.

Do not let anyone get you down on here. None of us know each other. None of us know who the other person really is and what they are like. All we know is what your thoughts are on one particular subject which is Everton. That's it.

If I make a comment about a post I'm making it about a post not about you. End of.

I can make an assumption of who you are based on your comments here but what is a post about Everton going to tell me? Nothing.

In my eyes whatever you put on here I can agree or disagree with but my overriding thought is that you have a passion and love for one of the most important pieces of my life.

I can tell you know I'm married, have two kids who are both a pain in the arse and I cycle to work everyday to keep my Adonis like body in shape.

I enjoy boxing, golf, cricket, tennis but my ultimate passion is Everton, Barcelona and England. Oh and the Nutella muffins you can get in Roccoco cafe on Lord st.

None of what I've just said about me makes a blind bit of difference to what I write about Everton or my opinion on what you write. It doesn't even tell you what type of person I am, which is awesome by the way.

So Degsy stay. I want you to stay. I do like your posts. I agree with most things you say because it's common sense stuff. However, I want to hear that common sense stuff on every subject😉. Not that I have any right to say what you should post on or not. You're a free man to do what you want.

And if anyone thinks I'm being a dick on a post tell me. I do genuinely consider people feelings but I am direct and it can come over emotionless, even sarcastic. Which I am also😆.

Chin up people.

{Ed001's Note - you like Nutella? That's it, you have to go! ;-)


25.) 21 Jun 2018 19:41:31
Nothing wrong with what you have said Degsy, everyone is entitled to their opinion and you make a lot of sense. If you do have some time off, come back refreshed and hopefully soon.


26.) 21 Jun 2018 20:49:52
ED001 I used to like you! 😆.

{Ed001's Note - I used to think you were alright but now I know you like that stuff, I am going off you!}


27.) 21 Jun 2018 22:10:30
Could be worse, could be marmite. Don't tell me.


 

 

18 Jun 2018 08:59:19
Lookman on the left, Siggy in the middle and Shaqiri on the right of a 3 man midfield with Gana behind.
That would give other teams something to think about. But we would need Jags and Baines replacements too!

degsyp

1.) 18 Jun 2018 09:11:22
Rather give Vlasic a chance or try to sign someone who turna up for more than 10 games a season. Swerve Shaqiri.


2.) 18 Jun 2018 10:04:38
The point is the talent is there. Just needs managing properly to get the best out of them.

Very positive Degs 👍.


3.) 18 Jun 2018 11:57:31
Should have signed him to replace Osman years ago. Quality player going forwards. Like Toffee ace says, has the talent, just needs managing.


4.) 18 Jun 2018 12:26:03
He's one lazy player. His fitness is atrocious. He's shed a couple of pounds because of the world cup but he literally chooses when he wants to perform.

He's got great feet and vision but not worth wasting time on. Mirrallas version 2.


5.) 18 Jun 2018 17:11:14
Yeah he's a huge?
And I'm sorry but Vlasic is crap. Get rid I say.
Championship level at best. Maybe in 4 years he will pop up somewhere as a player but he has done nothing.
Poor control no aggression no pace for a winger or a nipper, no ariel ability. Bought on a bad night in Europe. Desperate.


 

 

18 Jun 2018 08:04:30
I know this is a sort of repeat and I know I will get slated for saying this, but the wave of optimism that I see in fellow Blues worries me. We are right in the middle of a world cup and signing players is difficult to say the least. Usually when the world cup is on, all the Champions League qualifiers sort out their signings. Afterwards, all the players fall into place. Then the rest start scrambling around trying to pick up players who have not been taken up. Our own management have said we are already over staffed in the playing area and we need to offload a big number before we can add to it. Then there is the fact that Baines will be 34 and Jags 36 next season. We only improved last season when these 2 and Coleman returned to the team. So in effect our current position is that we have a worst squad than last season. (Williams is even more knackered now too) . The only difference to the first team in reality so far is the new manager. I really hope he can bring around a huge change but I saw no evidence at his previous clubs of him being able to make huge changes. I hope I am wrong and I hope the optimism is justified, but I for one do not think all our problems were down to Allardyce. I think the rot started under Martinez and the one signing of Lukaku "papered over" all the cracks. ie deficiencies within our squad. Maybe Barry also played a role, but since those 2 left, we have looked nothing like a team. and that's not just Allardyces fault. In fact the signing of Wallcott and Tosun were a good move. We will see what happens but I am not as confident as most on here. I hope I am wrong.

degsyp

1.) 18 Jun 2018 08:38:16
You put it a lot better than me degsyp. Your comment is based on the same evidence on Mr Silva I worked on. But we shall see, I will certainly be ready to eat humble pie but equally I will not come on here and say I told you so. We are Everton. COYB.


2.) 18 Jun 2018 08:55:00
Degsy, I agree that those two are getting old and that we need to replace them but your level of pessimism is OTT.

Every manager will say that the hardest position to fill will be the striker but in Tosun I feel we have a real goal getter. With Gilfi fully utilised under the new management he will have some quality service too.

So replacing Jags and Baines, I don’t think is too hard. Remember as good a player they both are for us they weren’t exactly top players when we bought them, both coming from sides either relegated or flirting with relegation. So I don’t think the choices are that scarce. Plus we’re operating with a highly respected DOF who can spot talent and has a track record to prove it.

I must disagree with your opinion on the manager too. He has a very impressive record in the short time he has performed in the premier league. Hull were dead and buried when he arrived, and he had them playing up until the end when they narrowly missed out on relegation. Watford were very impressive too. Yes he had a bad run of games and was distracted. But he wanted to come to us. And let’s face it, Watford are tough employers, so I can see why he saw us as a step up even though we were in trouble.

If we keep Lookman and get a good second striker, a pacey one, then we will scare defences into mistakes and score goals. If we get a song out of Schneiderlin (as it looks like he will be kept according to reports) then we can get some stability in front of defence.

It may not be as bad as you think Degs. Replacing Jags and Baines will not be as hard as you think.

Remember that your use to Moyes who was more interested in clean sheets than goals. That was safe, but it won us nothing. I think the new manager will want to strike a balance between Moyes and Martinez. That means not so tight at the back but far more productive up top. So I’m actually very optimistic about the season ahead, even if the signings are slow coming so far.

COYB.


3.) 18 Jun 2018 09:06:10
I can't see us buying until we sell or loan a fair few amount of players. So you may have to wait a bit longer before we replace anyone. I don't think it will be a one out one in policy this transfer window after the public statements about the size of the squad. To be honest I'm not that bothered if we don't get many more players this window as long as we can trim the squad to the size required to be able to strengthen in the next few windows, I would be happy to give the youth a chance to prove they can do the job.


4.) 18 Jun 2018 09:13:21
240 million blown on mostly the no 10 spot, but here we are a dof that knows his job and has already said it's a long process, a new manager that has shown improvement in the teams he managed, I'm sure that a player or 2 will be added in areas we need them. Never bother with where linked to this player that player, our kid in a sweet shop approach last year has done nothing as people will force our hand to pay over the odds. Brands was brought in to fix this great club. If you actually look at our squad it has some exciting youth, they need a chance to shine as they won't get better sitting on a bench. But let's get all doom and gloom in 6 months if this turns sour. Not before a ball has been kicked.


5.) 18 Jun 2018 09:14:51
Like I said Toffee ace, I hope your optimism is indeed justified. I actually am a believer that the first thing you do in football is set your defence up to try and not concede. Then you look to build from there. I saw enough last season to know that without Jags and Baines, we conceded goal after goal and goal etc. Confidence left the team and at one stage we had the worst defence in the Premiership statistically. That was a recipe for relegation. Allardyce was very fortunate to come in just as Coleman, Jags and Baines recovered and managed to grind a few results out. I now worry that replacing Jags and Baines should be our number one priority. They will both be another year older and they were already slowing up. I also think signing players will be difficult as I said earlier. Please name me 2 players in Jags and Baines positions who will walk straight into our first team and hit the ground running. Realistic signings. otherwise, like I said we are at the position we were last season defensively. including Williams who is also another year older and slower (and that my friend is a frightening thought) . People say I am negative on here. …. I actually at times have been very positive. see my post about Shaqiri, Lookman and Siggy as an attacking midfield. It is defensively I am concerned. People seem to be overlooking that. Even with our defensive manager last season (ok he was only here part of the time) we conceded 58 goals. That's 2 more than bottom WBA. Only 5 teams below us conceded more. With Jags and Baines and Williams a year younger than they will be next season. We NEED a top left back and a top center back to keep pace with what we achieved last season. that is my fear. I see no sign of either player yet and whilst the world cup is on, that will not happen. So after the world cup, its fingers crossed time for me! Not waves of euphoria just yet I am afraid.


6.) 18 Jun 2018 12:21:16
Don't worry guys it's just Degsy copying and pasting his old posts again.

Anything new Degsy?


7.) 18 Jun 2018 12:42:27
Anything different on the pitch from last season yet BJU?


8.) 18 Jun 2018 15:08:00
We haven't had a training session never mind a game. However we have had a change of manager and pretty much every other role in the club so I was hoping you might have something new to talk about instead of the usual 2 million words of doom of the past 5 years.

Maybe not though.


9.) 18 Jun 2018 17:45:01
BJU please don't make it personal. I say Walcott great signing. I say Tosun great signing. I say Lookman one for the future. Siggy class act. None of that is negative. but I do point out that some others seem to wear Blue tinted glasses and just because Allardyce has gone they say everything is going in the right direction. Some posts listing 12 potential signings. Others saying about getting rid of 11 or 12 players. When I point out that some players are under contract and might want to stay. I am told I am negative. When I point out that there is a world cup on and signing a single player is unlikely never mind 11 or 12, I am called negative. When I say Pickford is a great shot stopper but poor with crosses I am called negative. When I suggest we should have signed Shaqiri I am called negative. When I point out that some fans might need a reality check. I am called negative. Football is all about opinions. because my opinion is a more realistic one (that some agree with as well as the ones who disagree) I am accused of being negative. so I am accusing those at the other end of the spectrum of being over optimistic. that's all. but no need to get personal mate. Don't be so negative lol!


10.) 18 Jun 2018 18:50:38
😁. I'm not being personal Degsy like I said to DFS I don't know you from Adam. I'm aiming everything at your post. Also not all of your posts. Just these repetitive ones. You honestly don't need to put it up every few days. We know how you feel and how difficult you think it's going to be. I reckon this is the 7th time you've put this same post up since Silva has been with us.

I actually don't think your Shaqiri shout is that bad but he is too similar to Kev with his attitude and Sam with his diet.

He used to get subbed minutes into the second half because he was knackered.

Have a read of Silvas phylosophy on how he wants his teams to play like and people like Shaq and Kev don't fit it. He wants the high press and intensity all over the pitch for 90 mins. 😉.


11.) 19 Jun 2018 05:39:50
There's just no point in worrying about what we will or won't do over the summer, the manager hasn't even got his feet under the table yet. Have a bit of positivity. I think we'll make a couple of good signings, i think Silva will be a great manager. We're going in the right direction, let's get behind the lads.


 

 

17 Jun 2018 11:54:35
Not been on here for ages for various reasons and just trolled through my old posts and replies. Firstly, the news about my old comrade and friend Grumpytoffee has taken the wind right out of my sails. My condolences to all his family. I really cannot say any more at this stage.

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1.) 17 Jun 2018 13:15:34
He will be missed Degsy. His son is on here now keeping the good name going.
Wasn't sure you knew as you were not on much at the time.


2.) 17 Jun 2018 13:25:21
Agree with you degsy mate I loved his chats, He was a true gent mate.


3.) 18 Jun 2018 07:53:03
What name is his son under? I have to say that the shock did take the wind out of my sails. Like you guys say, he was always a gent. I know both him and me shared most Everton related views and most called us negative for some of the things we said. But at the end of the day, his passion for all things Blue was exactly the same as mine and we both craved success.

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04 Jun 2018 07:31:14
Reality check. I see lists of players who some people would think would be great signings for us. and I agree that some of the lists. 8 or 9 players sometimes. would be great signings. But here is the reality check: They also list loads of players who we should get rid of. again 8 or 9 sometimes. Whilst this is great to have dreams, football players may not want to leave Everton. They are under contract, so Everton have to find a deal that suits these players. That is not so straight forwards. Also the lists of quality players include some very good players. Other Premier League clubs and other top clubs in other countries also might want these players. It is not just a matter of making a shopping list and it all happens. The Ed's on here will tell you that sometimes the negotiations can go on for months if not weeks. So far we know Pickford is gathering international interest. Lookman too. We will do well to hold on to both of these. So far we have heard of no deals for new players coming in. That's not new for Everton. We do tend to do things quietly. But I would not expect wholesale changes this window. I would expect maybe 2 or 3 signings if lucky and maybe one of those will be a kid. Call me negative if you wish. but that's how I see it panning out.

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1.) 04 Jun 2018 08:03:58
It’s not the case of a need for a reality check, every poster on here understands that a lot has to come together for a transfer to happen - in or out.

So when we post that we don’t want/ want so and so, we are effectively saying if everything can be agreed then I’d love that player to leave/ join.


2.) 04 Jun 2018 08:12:51
I'd say 3 or 4 quality signings at most and is probably what we need to do. We've got a lot of talent at the club and this is a building process.

Some people will be moved on and I wouldn't worry too much on that as agents love a nice payday. However, most teams in the top leagues pay similar wages to us now and would think they can afford the same as we do.

This isn't a short term plan and it will take time to get the squad right. A few windows at least.

However, this squad was easily good enough for 8th last year and a small jump up to 7th isn't beyond them. I think performances on the pitch is the biggest part that needs improving.


3.) 04 Jun 2018 08:17:54
I hope your right degs as last season showed buying lots of players does not work for me Pickford isn't going anywhere Lookman is a different story I would love him to stay but I have a feeling it's if he will get a lot more game time under Marcos Ironmike has thrown a few names in and I'm excited reg Carvalhio if we can get it over the line I feel we need another striker and a LB as two priorities I wouldn't be too upset going into the season with jags Keane Mori and holgate at CB we have gueye Davies Beni and schniderlin (who I expect to leave if Carvalhio comes in) then we have Lookman vlasic bolasie Walcott and tosun and niasse with maybe a few outgoings like Klasson and Sandro which I'm a lil disappointed with as I would like to see them get a chance but I would like to add qaulity not qauntity this season and see what we can do.


4.) 04 Jun 2018 08:37:28
Degsy this post makes me feel like you just like winding people up (although I give you kudos for not mentioning Moyes) . I followed your post at first and I agree we are looking at 3-4 signings rather than 8-9. I believe that most will be first team. The bit where you lost me is when you started going on about Pickford and Lookman leaving.

The Pickford story came from the worst newspaper in the world. And I also can't see Pickford wanting to sit on the bench anywhere at this stage in his career when he's a guaranteed starter here every week.

As for Lookman, it's been widely reported that he will wait to see what plans Silva has for him before deciding on his future. If Silva wants him to play next season he could still stay.

You are being overly negative mate. I don't expect us to pull up any trees next season. A step in the right direction for me would be better performances, beating a couple of the top six and finishing 7th.


5.) 04 Jun 2018 09:03:25
I can't reply to each and every post individually without creating a humoungous reply. but a few points. Some people do post about having a huge clearout as if it is that straight forward. Then they list a whole load of players they think we can sign. Usually ones that will end up at clubs in the Champions League. Then they add in players at Chelsea and other Champions League clubs who are out on loan to get experience. We have as much chance of getting them as we did Lukaku (the one that did surprise me) . Ok now the Pickford and Lookman point. I did not mean these 2 in particular. I was suggesting that just like the bad window (2 ago) . we were looking to sign top players and ended up losing Barkley and Lukaku. Now please don't go on about Barkley being crap etc etc. Chelsea wanted him like Man Utd wanted Lukau. They were 2 of our potentially brightest young stars and happened to have scored 30 goals between them. My point is that it's like tring to fill a bucket with a hole. As you pour in at one end, stuff is seeping out the other. Pickford, Lookman, Lukaku and Barkley are just examples. It happens season in and season out. I would think Coleman is on the radar of some clubs as a possible other?


6.) 04 Jun 2018 09:23:00
Well done degsyp. You are beginning to understand football. Players come in and players leave. Nothing new there - it's been happening since football began

So people have a list of players that they want to come in and players that they would want to leave. Some players don't want to join us and some players with us that we want to leave don't want to and others that we would like to stay want to leave.


What's your point? That's the role of management to make the best decisions to strengthen the squad.

We're not stupid, we're not living in fantasy land where we think all our dreams come true, or in your case, everything that can go wrong, will

Let's give the new management a chance and see how this close season and the next couple pan out. They might surprise you and strengthen some of the weaknesses you have highlighted in the past.


7.) 04 Jun 2018 10:29:46
I get your point Degs, but I don't feel like we are getting enough interest (for me everything depends on 'what ifs' for example if De Gea leaves Man U then they could go for Pickford) . As regards a clear out I get that it isn't as simple as just put them up and someone will buy, but even the players we mention we don't want- someone will for most of them. I think the ones we may struggle to offload are the older ones on big contracts, for example Williams. Someone somewhere will probably take a punt on the likes of Niasse and Schneiderlin should we decide to sell them.


8.) 04 Jun 2018 10:47:45
At the start of season no one complained about who we signed missing out on a striker after Lukaku was massive mistake, then we had a disaster start well after first few games sacked Koeman and did not have plan, Silva was obviously the one Moshiri wanted but it got messy with Watford, unsworth tried but the damage was done but Allardyce had us over a barrel, with a contract he knew was not going to be completed got his bonus and pay off but ripped the heart out of it, I know we had to get out of danger but we had 8-10 games where I knew we weeent going down did not what us finishing in Europa league place, I wanted to see some sort of a ambition on the field and it was dire to watch.
So new era starts Brands in my opinion looks the real deal is nice to see Moshiri put someone at a high level run things that has experience also very good negotiator, something feels different from Koeman and Walsh it always looked awkward I remember watch something when they were all sat down at a club thing, i did not see Walsh with the same presence that I think we will see today at press conference with Brands and Silva.


9.) 04 Jun 2018 10:52:00
Maybe certain parts of my post was aimed at certain other posts. eg there was one with a whole shopping list of about 15 players and a similar clear out list. As if it was FIFA VIDEO Game or something. Likewise I know some of you understand the way it works so please don't think I am having a dig at everyone. To answer the question what was my point. I think things will be a bit slower than "some" posters on here think. Patience will be needed. I can remember other posts already on here slagging the new manager off and the bloody ink isn't dry yet! Yes the club may be going in the right direction, but we have years of catch up to play. And remember that whilst we are going forwards, some of the other clubs around us are too. and the ones ahead of us.


10.) 04 Jun 2018 11:08:16
I don't think I've seen anyone on the site saying they were off down to William Hill or Paddy power with their life savings to pu on us winning the treble next year ( wonder what the odds are though - might be worth a few quid)


Caution is fine mate but so is having optimism. We are far better off without Sam. As I've said let's give the new management team a chance and hopefully they will correct some of our old mistakes and give us all cause for optimism which I've now re-found now that Sam is gone. COYB NSNO.


11.) 04 Jun 2018 11:32:54
what would we all do without your great knowledge of the games degsy.


12.) 04 Jun 2018 13:37:07
are you referring to my list of 10 players i would release degs? every player on that list is feesable to go this summer mate.


13.) 04 Jun 2018 17:49:01
Not sure - I think he is referring to mine - and I’m happy to repeat - I think the following should and will go: garbutt Browning Galloway Martina Williams Robles jmac besic Rooney Sandro klasson naisse. That’s 12-I’d love to get shot of bolassi too!


14.) 04 Jun 2018 18:11:18
Everyones got their own opinions on who we would like to buy/ sell myself included. All that matters is who brands/ silver decide to buy/ sell.


15.) 04 Jun 2018 21:50:35
Well we will see what happens soon enough. I will leave it at that.


16.) 05 Jun 2018 13:18:16
I see brands and Silva implementing these easy steps in our progression.

1. Play a way to win games
2. Win games
3. Win lots of games
4. Conquer the world

Simple.


 

 

 

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20 Jun 2018 14:30:03
Sorry didn't see your other post Ed002. Wow we are still paying Rooney that much? And 2 previous manager salaries! Plus which players would be happy to take a step down and a salary reduction? I think Everton have had too much turnover of staff in recent years and tied themselves up in contracts galore! I will have a look for your previous post. Suffice it to say, I expect little change in the staff at Everton.

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27 Jan 2018 08:21:43
I think the club were shocked at Barkley's determination to leave. Especially as it coincided with Lukaku. That's are 2 top scorers and there was and obvious need to replace them both. We were then caught up in the shock of extra TV money causing an instant increase intop players values. so the likes of Sigurdson's fee of £45 million cames as a shock. Add into that Giroud mucking about. signing/ not signing and then the availability of Rooney and Klaasen. (Klaasen's fee being somewhat lower) . The whole lot was messy and poor. then Baines got injured. it is just all messy. but the dice didn't fall in the best way for us.

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I think the club were shocked at Barkley's determination to leave. Especially as it coincided with Lukaku. That's are 2 top scorers and there was and obvious need to replace them both. We were then caught up in the shock of extra TV money causing an instant increase intop players values. so the likes of Sigurdson's fee of £45 million cames as a shock. Add into that Giroud mucking about. signing/ not signing and then the availability of Rooney and Klaasen. (Klaasen's fee being somewhat lower) . The whole lot was messy and poor. then Baines got injured. it is just all messy. but the dice didn't fall in the best way for us.

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WTFAYTAEd.

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21 Jun 2018 16:13:27
Fair enough sa90. I take what you say. But like I mentioned, I sometimes get asked questions from other posters asking me to clarify and I do feel like I am repeating myself. I also have some people agreeing with parts of a post but not other bits, so respond in a general way. it is difficult and I am not being pushed out but feel that maybe I am just needing a rest from it so maybe speak to you guys again soon.

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21 Jun 2018 14:37:44
Well Son of Grumpy, I really appreciate what you have said and thank you for doing so. I would like to add something: Some months ago, both your Dad and me posted quite a few similar posts. They were not what a lot of people wanted to hear. I used the term "caustic" and I don't want to tarnish anyone's view of your Dad in any way. But I felt like a few people were picking on him and said so. I stood by him and backed him up on a few debates and in fact both him and me stopped posting for a while. as a matter of protest at the way we were being "picked on". We actually stated that. (maybe the truth was that he was going into hospital but didn't want to say? ) At that stage, your Dad did indeed come back on although a lot less frequently and sometimes to offer me support when others seemed to be "bullying" my comments. I know that sometimes people differ yet can still discuss in a civilized fashion. eg me and BlueJohnUns often differ but can always be civilized and explain things and still differ. I also know that I get on people's nerves at times. And yes at times I do post to get a reaction. but like your Dad I also reach the point where I just don't want to comment any more because of insults, accusations of repeating myself or just being ridiculed. It is not that I am throwing my toys out of the pram, but like I said, if I respond, I am accused of repeating myself. If I am in the minority with a view and repeat myself by responding I get "ganged up" on. So sometimes it is just easier to let the majority have their view and compliment each other that everyone has the same view. I guess its a case of banter has turned into self gratification and an inability to see that someone else has an alternative view. I also guess I am repeating myself because my age makes me forget that I have said something once or twice previously. I am genuinely sorry for bringing your Dad's name into this debate but I do know for sure that if he was still around he would have been the first to defend me in what feels like a gang up against me. But fear not, I am going to do like what he did and told me he was doing. have a time out and not get involved in the insults etc. But I am not in a huff. its more a feeling of can't be *rsed! With regards to your Dad, I managed to break my laptop and therefore had a couple of months off line. I was devastated to hear the news when I came back and I hope you all are coping ok and in reality it shows that Football is secondary to life. If only just! Thanks for your support and the support of others above. … I will have a time out in order to reflect. I will see how I feel at a later date. COYB.

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I was trying to say I have obviously
8issed a few of you off without trying to. I was trying to get my point over with an explanation as to why I thought I had 8issed you off (unintentionally) . I then tried to point out that I think the 8 or 9 players who may leave will in the main be youngsters and not the ageing squad members. Having said all this, it appears I still *iss people off so bye bye folks. Just like Grumpy Toffee seemed to do. and in his latter time, I will do the same and stop posting here. Have fun yourselves agreeing with each other and having no alternative views. Cheerio.

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20 Jun 2018 21:43:30
The problem with this banter stuff is that when I put a post on I sometimes get say 8 replies. saying some things the same and others slightly different things. so when I try and respond, everyone thinks I am being contradictory to their particular post. I agree sometimes I sort of band posts together. eg many people were talking about getting rid of 11/ 12/ 13 players. and yes some were saying these players "could" go but not meaning all would go. But I cannot answer every post individually or then people would accuse me of hogging this site. So guys, no offence meant to any of you. but I still say we will maybe get rid of a few kids or lower earners and maybe one or two high earners. But like Ed002 said, we are still paying 2 managers and up to $75k of Rooneys wages and add in to that the salaries that Williams, Bolasie and Jags and a few others who are likely to see less game time this season. We might squeeze more out of Jags but at 36 he is likely to be unable to play 2 games a week when needed and if he picks up a knock could find it slower to recover.

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20 Jun 2018 18:53:26
I love it Toffeeace. But I will Neveeeer turn to the dark side! My father was a Blue Jedi and I too am a Blue Jedi. …. actually my Father was a Red! So me and Luke do have some similarities. jovial and banter like enough for you guys?

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