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18 Sep 2018 11:48:50
As the post mortem on Saturday seems to be continuing I thought I would add the simple truth: TOO MANY CHANGES! Yes it is complicated, but the facts are simple. We have changed too many things in such a short time. I am not blaming the manager because I feel he is taking us in the right direction. But we have been a victim of: 2 sending offs. and thus suspensions. Injuries to 7 1st team players. Players coming back from injury who the manager feels should start. Young players trying to force their way into the team. Tactical changes. All of this adds up and the team that played Saturday did not look like the previous weeks team and that one did not look like the one before that etc. We need to get our players all back and let the manager pick the same team for a few weeks running. Then we will know what our squad is really like. We have been very unfortunate on a number of issues, but compare it with last season and the run of games that bored us all to death. We are a WORK IN PROGRESS. Anyone who expects instant success is just being silly in my view!


1.) 18 Sep 2018 14:52:29
Well said work in progress the summer was good business but people have to remember it was his first window and we probably shifted a lot more out than I though we woul be able to and made signings I didn’t think we could get.
A lot of Silva/ Brands signings have not played much yet and some not at all, I just hope Mina can be are powerhouse at the back as I think it will help Keane, holgate and zouma better we need a leader back there, we got bullied on Sunday.

2.) 18 Sep 2018 17:06:25
What is worrying though is Zouma and Gomes are on loan, while Mina has a buy back clause in his contract, that’s three players we have no control over.

{Ed002's Note - There is control over Yerry Mina - "buy back" clauses do not m,ean that Barcelona can simply pay Everton and they have to send him back. Plus, given the outrageous price Everton paid for him I don't see any chance of him going back in the short to medium term.}

3.) 18 Sep 2018 17:53:10
Excellent post degsy mate, too many managers on here, once we get the injured and suspended and settled in with the newbies we will climb the table, give the guy a chance this won't be fixed in 6 months.

4.) 18 Sep 2018 18:48:21
I'm sure ed will correct me but isn't the buy back clause about twice what we paid for him so something about 70 mil I for 1 hope Barcelona wish to try to use it because if he's playing good enough to warrant that fee it will be good for us.

{Ed002's Note - It is rather less than 70M in whatever currency you are thinking, but it is nothing to worry about, nor nothing to even think about. I would not think they would be interested when Everton come to sell the player on.}

5.) 18 Sep 2018 18:53:37
Cheers ed.

6.) 18 Sep 2018 21:45:06
On Gomes, I believe Barcelona wanted permanent deal before agreeing to loan, so even if he is successful we probably will be able to sign him. Problem is if other teams come in for him. Zouma may seek permanent transfer after seasons end. Depends what Chelsea can off in terms of 1st team football.

7.) 19 Sep 2018 17:13:37
I’m probably late to the party on this but if the penalty is a point deduction then what is the maximum number of points that can be deducted?

{Ed025's Note - i dont know to be honest CT..

8.) 19 Sep 2018 17:50:41
Thanks Ed. Sorry I realize I posted this on the wrong thread.

{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..

9.) 19 Sep 2018 18:05:53
Again I may be wrong but if memory serves me right didn't Luton get docked 30 pts for something along these lines many years ago.

{Ed025's Note - dont say that james...i was thinking 2 or 3..

10.) 19 Sep 2018 20:09:23
It was bugging me so had a little look into It they were docked 30 pts but 20 were for insolvency problems
That was added to 10 points they were docked for illegal payments to agents so hopefully worst case 10 pts.

{Ed025's Note - still far too much james, it would be hard to recover from a 10pt deficit mate and the pressure of being rock bottom hard to overcome....slap on the wrist im hoping for..

11.) 19 Sep 2018 21:25:04
Same here ed but I can't help but fear the worst at some point they will make an example of someone and with the previous we have and the other ongoing issues I feel we could be the example I just wish that it wasn't going to drag onto the new year and I hope it's given the club the jolt it needs to get things in order and start to do things the correct way.

{Ed025's Note - lets just hope they give us a hefty fine and warn us about our future conduct james, im sure our legal team can bribe the panel as it wont be the first time a brown envelope has passed their way mate.. :)

12.) 19 Sep 2018 22:54:06
Well we were also the honorary (and one of very few) recipients of the retroactive diving ban. So I’m sure we can expect something great.



08 Aug 2018 13:40:50
Drinkwater now linked. Would be great for us.


1.) 08 Aug 2018 13:54:37
He's slower than a slug. Do we need another slow midfielder?

2.) 08 Aug 2018 14:49:18
Not exactly the powerhouse box to box midfielder that typically plays in Silva’s systems is he?

3.) 08 Aug 2018 15:32:09
He can do the Shnieds job much better great sighning.

4.) 08 Aug 2018 17:20:38
He's been terrible for Chelsea when he's managed to get on the pitch.

5.) 08 Aug 2018 21:13:56
Had one good season next to Kante but nothing since.

I would like him to do well being an English player and this is the sort of player that we could attract but I don’t think this wasn’t another case of Chelsea ruining an English player, he just wasn’t good enough in the first place, not for us and certainly not for champs league and title contender team.



08 Aug 2018 13:39:32
One bit of banter that seems to have escaped us is there are rumours that Kenwright is about to quit. That would allow the 2 ex Arsenal money men take over completely. I would like to thank Kenwright for always putting the club first and being the best Chairman in the Premier League by a country mile!


1.) 08 Aug 2018 15:00:29
Agree wholeheartedly mate, never has there been a truer Blue than Bill, I thank him from the bottom of my heart for what he done for our Club,

2.) 08 Aug 2018 18:51:27
Defo. He (along with Moyes) turned round the fortunes of our club. I dread to think where we'd be now if he hadn't taken on the job. (I say "job", it's clearly always been a passion project for Bill! )



20 Jun 2018 21:36:00
Ok to try and put a realistic view on it some facts: World Cup Final is 15th July. The transfer window closes early this season on August 9th. That is just over 3 weeks. Although we may sign players from teams knocked out, it is unlikely that we will be signing players still involved until after 16th July. In fact any negotiations with players are likely to start on or after 16th July. That leaves 23 days to make signings. I expect that is when Everton will start things really moving and why I have posted previous posts. Remember that other teams might also be waiting to see if they can get certain players in the same way as we are, so the first few days after the world cup is likely to be a scramble with players having a few choices of clubs. Some in Europe and some not. That's when I expect us to start making announcements. probably around 20th July and onwards.


1.) 20 Jun 2018 22:49:54
Nothing to stop clubs granting permission before agents thrashing out the initial part of negotiations and then some teams will probably allow discussions on rest days whereas others may not
Just have to see what can be done.

2.) 21 Jun 2018 08:08:41
There's also plenty of good players who are not at the world cup for us to look at too. Probably best to hold on for a bumpy ride until the window closes.

3.) 21 Jun 2018 09:22:06
It's worth noting that 16 teams can do business from the 28th June. 8 more on the 3rd July. 4 more on the 7th July and 2 more on the 14th July.
We can also buy an English player after the final.

4.) 21 Jun 2018 15:38:03
Very droll smit. We actually look good so far while big teams struggle. Who know how far we can go.
Also fred has just completed his move to man Utd so we can sign players who are active at world cup. Seatbelts on for roller coaster couple of months.



20 Jun 2018 14:13:40
I wonder if ED002 can help with a question that relates to some of my banter posts. I don't wish to appear a know it all, but some posters on here have been talking about getting rid of 11 or 12 players and signing of many players. I did a couple of posts saying that it would be highly unlikely that we offloaded more than 2 or 3 senior players due to lucrative contracts and players unwillingness to take salary reductions. Added to which, after the world cup there is less than 2 weeks to tie up deals with the transfer window closing 2 days earlier this year. My question to Ed is, "Do you know if there are any senior players likely to leave and are there any players in current discussion with Everton at an advanced stage? " and I think I can guess the answuer to part 2 of my question.


{Ed002's Note - This lust of players that are available is the same as I gave acouple of days or so ago. You are right about the mine, as the club will be paying up to $75k for Rooney and £xM for having three managers on the books still.}

1.) 20 Jun 2018 14:30:03
Sorry didn't see your other post Ed002. Wow we are still paying Rooney that much? And 2 previous manager salaries! Plus which players would be happy to take a step down and a salary reduction? I think Everton have had too much turnover of staff in recent years and tied themselves up in contracts galore! I will have a look for your previous post. Suffice it to say, I expect little change in the staff at Everton.

2.) 20 Jun 2018 23:27:03
You don’t get to be a billionaire by making daft business decisions. If Moshiri has made mistakes, he’ll have learnt from them. Give the new set up a chance. Some players will leave. Even if we are paying a percentage of their wage, it still reduces the overall wage bill. Rushing into signings is what got us into trouble last season.

3.) 21 Jun 2018 12:28:36
but the 75k I take will only be for one year? As it makes no sense to pay that amount for the 3 years reported as it would cost us less to keep him for 1 year on his full salary.




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12 Oct 2018 22:52:38
Here's one for fellow Blues. and a light bit of banter which I think is needed at the moment. who's fans are most fickle? I have to say there are lots of ways to judge this and us Blues must be high up on the list. but I can think of a few others!


1.) 13 Oct 2018 11:30:54
man city fans most of them used to support stockport and oldham and jumped ship, would they jump. again if it all went pop at city?



09 Oct 2018 22:45:00
Just logged on. wow I have missed some fun tonight on here. Ed's and posters at each others throats! Get some perspective guys. I thought I was the miserable angry one! It's football and its emotional but to the extent of bursting blood vessels!


1.) 09 Oct 2018 23:58:01
Best to keep out of it degsyp. The Ed's especially Ed02 are great at giving us information and I for one am very grateful, best leave it at that.

2.) 10 Oct 2018 07:37:32
So am I BluMike, we only read some of what was said.

3.) 10 Oct 2018 07:46:44
Yes BlueMike1. I was just trying to say that sometimes we all get a little heated and I for one have done it in the past but yes. without the Ed's this site does not exist. but likewise, without the posters. this site does not exist. I think it is deep breath time and leave it for now. Respect to all!

4.) 10 Oct 2018 19:48:19
You've got to remember the Eds have the last say and can kick you off the site.

5.) 10 Oct 2018 20:00:40
I used to check out both the rumor and banter pages for this forum quite a lot. Over the past few months though I find that I sadly visit and comment less and less. My impression is that views have gotten a little extreme and the overall mood ranges anywhere between deludedly optimistic to incredibly toxic. I’m not begrudging anyone their views of course but it just seems there has to be some kind of middle ground. We’re all supporters of the same club and while there is no right or wrong way to do that there at least has to be a way of engaging with a view that differs from your own and an ability to process that and respond to it in a grown up way. Hopefully that comes back at some stage.

6.) 10 Oct 2018 21:04:25
Hey. Instead of rumour and banter can't we rename them optimistic and pessimistic?
That way we can dip in and out depending on our mood.
The other posts page can be a cooling off page for anyone who needs a breather, or is getting too optimistic/ pessimistic.



30 Sep 2018 08:39:44
I stayed pretty much quiet the last week or so after reading some posts on here very critical of the manager and certain players. Particularly Tom Davies. I did a couple of posts but wanted to write more. Firstly it was obvious to me that West Ham had a much better squad than their record after 4 games showed. It was obvious that they had some quality players and would start picking up points. So although it was a setback losing to them. people should have taken certain factors into consideration. We were without quite a few players in key positions being the main one. Then we look at the Arsenal game and for the majority of that game we looked pretty good. We had a kid at right back, a kid at center half and another as captain who ran the show in midfield. Again we were missing some key players. Regular posters on this site know that for 3 or 4 seasons I have been a right miserable sod and have been all gloom and despondancy about the direction the club was going. But I can see we are now once again making progress. The manager wants us to attack and create. We are poor at defending set pieces and poor in defence at times. But he has been so unlucky with injuries and we have not even seen Mina yet. As the youngsters gain experience, they can only get better and there are one or two more knocking on the first team door. I expect we will be looking at another defender come the next transfer window and I trust this manager not to make the mistakes that Martinez and Koeman did and sign poor average players. I could make a big list of players who came and went sice Moyes was manager. Not many are still with us who remain in the first team. That says a lot to me. The current first team is mainly made of Moyes players, youth players or Silva players. Dare I say it. only 4 players from the 7 years of those 2 manager were in the team yesterday. Even Allardyce was here for the signing of Walcott and Tosun. Yes I feel the club is once again going in the right direction and we may lose a few games and we may only be a midtable side at present. but I was seriously worried we were headed downwards prior to Silva arriving. for the previous few seasons. Martinez did great to bring in Lukaku and Barkley did us well. But other than that, we had very little attacking threat brought in over the 7 years that he and Koeman were manager! Thank goodness we have Silva now.


1.) 30 Sep 2018 11:36:06
Well said degsy mate, damn good post that.

2.) 30 Sep 2018 11:39:23
Good post Degsy.

3.) 30 Sep 2018 12:04:21
somebody positive robbed your phone degsy mate.

{Ed025's Note - love it ray..

4.) 30 Sep 2018 12:12:31
Just thinking the same thing blueray no doom merchants on here today, wonder why mate.

5.) 30 Sep 2018 14:56:05
Good post Degsy. It's good to have something positive to talk about isn't it? There will still be some more indifferent displays, setbacks but our prospects/ hopes compared to last year are so much better.


6.) 30 Sep 2018 14:59:17
Do not worry Degsy, one slip and they will be back like a plague of locust.

From Day one I said give Silva time to bring his players and methods, no good judging a guy after half a dozen games.

Still say we made the right choice in Silva, couple more transfer windows to sort out at least.

But what I do Like is the at least two players for every position, rather than playing a player out of position.

Injury’s and suspensions have forced Silva hand, once we are up to speed I think we are in very good hands with Silva and Brands, not forgetting Moshi.

7.) 30 Sep 2018 15:26:53
I agree about numbers bignev but its also not just about numbers. It's also about quality in numbers. Martinez had numbers but signed so many average players. and a couple of decent ones. Koeman signed a lot of dross if we are honest. I should really have posted this the week before last when a few disbelievers were slagging us for losing against West Ham. Then see how West Ham turned over Man Utd yesterday! The Premiership is a tough old league and West Ham at full strength have some great players. I think we should have gone for that Yarmelenko feller!

8.) 30 Sep 2018 15:28:06
Oh and Ed. the happy pills are working!

{Ed025's Note - keep taking them degsy, they are working wonders mate.. :)

9.) 30 Sep 2018 19:30:20
Great post Degsy. The signs of improvement are definitely there. Richy being back from suspension gives us an edge that was sadly missing for 3 games. He holds the ball up well and he runs at defenders which they don't like. Him and Digne look a good pairing on the left, and if we start converting more of the chances we are creating and get Mina fit and bossing the defense I can only see us getting better as the season progresses. In Silva We Trust COYB!

10.) 30 Sep 2018 21:39:30
I was in Turkey 2 years ago and met an Evertonian of similar age to me. He is suffering some health problems as we all do as we get older. On the beach his missus came over with an Everton Mint. He had taken them to Turkey and sent her over because he knew I was a Blue! What a magic moment. The guy is still suffering and I and he are both going back to Turkey for holidays soon. I hope he has an amazing time and me too. But once a Blue always a Blue. You guys know what I mean. Once a Blue always a Blue!

11.) 01 Oct 2018 20:43:34
Well done Degsy. Good post mate. 👍.

12.) 02 Oct 2018 11:35:08
Fantastic stuff Degsy. I haven't been on here a lot recently but when I have I've enjoyed your renewed sense of optimism this season. You and I have clashed in the past over various things but it's great to see that a lot of Blues, yourself included can see that we are moving in the right direction.



19 Sep 2018 19:41:38
Sheesh there is some lack of realism on here at times. We started the season with a huge injury list. We were all pleasantly surprised at our early performances. We had a couple of decisions go against us re sending offs. ie if ours were sending offs. then a couple against us were too! We had a penalty decision go against us. We Now have more injuries than we started with. The manager is having to use kids in positions that were shown last season to be too raw and young. Yes tactically he might have got a few things wrong here and there. who knows? But compare with last season and we at least now look ok going forwards. We have a center forward with very little confidence and a couple of goals would turn that around. our only big problem is that we keep conceding soft goals and every game we need to score 2 or 3 to get a result. If we can tighten up at the back, get a few players back from suspension and injury then things will turn round. We are nowhere near a top 4 side yet. But we should be thinking about top 6 and we do need cover for Richarlison on the left. Calvert Lewin is not a wide player. But these are problems that can be sorted. Last season Coleman came back and made a huge impact. I expect the same with Richarlison. I also cannot wait to see if Mina has the same sort of impact because if he does, we will look a lot better. The only thing I cannot fathom is whay managers keep picking Shneids. I would have Tom Davies in every time ahead of him. He is young but also has an engine and does not stand on the center halves toes most of the game. On Saturday there were times when Zouma was telling Schneids to push on and Schneids just stood there? I know he had suffered a terrible bereavement, but this has gone on for too long with a couple of managers now. He just slows the game down and offers no attacking threat whereas Davies has enough to go forwards and chase back. He may make mistakes but is starting to mature.


{Ed025's Note - good post that degsy, i myself would have schneiderlin over davies though mate, morgan has done well i feel and has won me around with his performances this season, tom may well develop into a top player but at the moment he is sloppy and gives the ball away far too often and too easily..

1.) 19 Sep 2018 21:31:45
We will have to agree to disagree on that one Ed. I think Schneids has been better, but just slows the game down and won't press like the manager wants. Last week there was one situation about 15 yards outside our box where he had cleared the ball and the team moved up the pitch in unison. except for Schneids who literally had Zouma pushing him in the back telling him to move up with the team. I guess his head was elsewhere, but it stuck out like a sore thumb to me. the rest of the team together and him not doing the same.

{Ed025's Note - last week i think he was not on his game for obvious reasons degsy, but up until now i think he has done well mate..

2.) 19 Sep 2018 23:10:53
Utter tosh. so deluded!

{Ed025's Note - could you clarify what you think is tosh TT?..

3.) 20 Sep 2018 06:52:44
trev you are everything that is wrong with modern fans, one loss and that's it players are crap manager hasn't got a clue and wer getting relegated unless we buy messi and if we don't get mesi the its all bills fault he's got his own agenda. get a grip man we are a work in progress and are headed the right way just give us time and u will be jumping on the how good are train, so fickle mate honestly get my back up some of our fans.

4.) 20 Sep 2018 10:29:05
Didn't get that either, who or what was utter tosh and deluded TrickyTrev.

5.) 20 Sep 2018 11:01:54
We were in a very similar position at the beginning of last season, not much difference in that we struggled to score and conceeded to easily from silly individual mistakes. We never gave Koeman enough time to get it right and if we don't give Silva enough we may end in a position where the management think we want SA MKII to keep us in the PL. If that happens we deserve everything we get.

6.) 20 Sep 2018 12:04:55
I am not sure if Tricky is saying my post is utter tosh or Ed's reply is utter tosh? But he is allowed an opinion. Then we can say his opinion is good or even utter tosh! Either way, sa90 is right. except I think maybe at this stage last season Koeman had lost the dressing room? We were not even creating more than say 1 chance a game. At least we look like we could win games now (West Ham game maybe not) . From what I have seen of Silva's signings, I am happy to say they are far superior to both Martinez and Koeman's. We are slowly getting back to Moyes type levels and with the structure of our financial situation should be able to push on that bit that we never could in Moyes' time. Since Moyes left and prior to Silva. in my humble opinion, only Lukaku, Gylfi and maybe Walcott are what you would call top level players. The rest are either maybe average or below average. Richarlison looks top level. And from what I have seen of Silva's other signings, there is quality. (yes I know about Pickford) . but I can also create a big list of dross signings post Moyes which I have done on may occasions so won't bother again (thank God, I hear! )

7.) 20 Sep 2018 06:42:19
I agree Ed, I slated the guy last season for not putting a shift in and rightly so, this season he has knuckled down and apart from last Saturday, which was unstandable, he has upped his game.

Still got fingers crossed though for McCarthy, he is one player who we miss.

{Ed025's Note - i was not happy with morgan at all last season bignev and to be honest would not have shed a tear if he had gone, but fair play to the guy he has knuckled down and has been one of our better performers. on macca i will be made up to see him back mate, say what you will about his ability but when he puts that glorious blue shirt on he gives 100% every time, i have felt at times that our midfield has been bullied this season but if macca plays you know that wont happen and i would love to see him get some game time..

8.) 20 Sep 2018 22:53:12
I would also be happy to have McCarthy back. I feel he is more akin to Davies in style. One thing I am sure about is Davies has the ability to become a top player. The goal he scored against Man City 18 months ago was pure class. But he was so young. He is still only just 20 years old. He is still growing and could become a top top player. I find it unbelievable that people judge players off a couple of appearances when 18 years old and decide they are not good enough.

9.) 21 Sep 2018 04:45:32
I'm not sure that either Davies or Schid is the answer. Davies has youth and the fact he is local on his side but the basics i. e. distribution for instance are poor. He needs to go back to doing the simple passes really well and then, hopefully the expansive balls will follow. Schids? Sorry but I still can't accept last season when his attitude was completely wrong and unacceptable. This year maybe a bit better but we are still being walked through too easily in midfield and I put a lot of the blame on him and Ghana.

Personally I would rather have McCarthy or Beningamie in there but they both are injured or out of the picture at the moment. Longer term I think we will need to buy to strengthen but we don't know (or at least I don't) yet what Gomes might give us

The good news is that we have options but they need to work. We have got to stop giving away 2 goals a game and get some clean sheets without hurting the attacking options.

10.) 20 Sep 2018 20:16:15
Now your talking Ed mate that's one guy we REALLY need.

11.) 20 Sep 2018 20:16:15
Now your talking Ed mate that's one guy we REALLY need.



16 Sep 2018 22:51:29
I said I would wait until 5 games in before commenting on our progress. I expect some of you will be expecting me to be highly critical. well actually, I feel we have made progress to the point that we are lacking in a few areas but are not far off being a decent team. Re todays performance and result. it was always going to happen. West Ham lost opening 4 but we know they are not terrible and have some decent players. We had players suspended for errors of judgment that seem to have gone unpunished with players of other teams. We had loads out injured and a midfielder who's Dad died last week and tried to perform but just couldn't. The bottom line is we keep conceding 2 or 3 goals and no matter how hard the players try, we won't win many games when the defence is so leaky. Someone else mentioned that the kids of Holgate, Kenny and Calvert-Lewin are not yet ready. I tend to agree that to have all 3 in is asking too much. But my worry is that we still seem to also be lacking a center forward who can score goals. Tosun had a few chances again without ever looking like he would score. I am not sure what has happened to the player we signed, but the Besiktas supporters loved him? All I can say, is that when we get Richarlison back and some of the others out injured, we will hopefully tighten up. I have to say that Schneiderlin's continued presence in the team baffles me. especially ahead of the hard working Tom Davies. although I guess his maturity was a reason? But like Leon Osman has just said on MOTD we are lacking the center forward. let's hope we can tighten up and stop conceding and Tosun or Niasse can start banging them in. We had 16 shots today, that's more than in 16 games last season!


1.) 17 Sep 2018 07:12:16
first 5 games looked easy Osman was right we've not replaced Luka.

2.) 17 Sep 2018 07:26:57
Agree with most of that Degsy. Maybe Tosun needs a couple of games out and try richarlison in the middle.

3.) 17 Sep 2018 11:22:51
Liverpool fan here

Why not try Walcott up top? He is a striker after all!

4.) 17 Sep 2018 19:31:17
He's our only right sided winger perception.




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09 Aug 2018 07:35:41
Yes sell once a replacement is sorted. Should have learnt that after the Lukaku and 5 number 10's episode!




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06 Aug 2018 10:02:21
Holgate will become a fine player. He is still much too young to be a commanding CH as yet though. 2 more years will show what he is capable of becoming.




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21 Jul 2018 18:31:03
Like I said in the banter post. it appears all the comments about Lookman being unhappy are coming from the Leipzig boss. I can only think he is trying to unsettle Lookman and Everton.


{Ed002's Note - Lookman wanted assurances and is now having to watch Everton hunt around for players in his position - the likes of Rebic, Malcom, Brahimi and Richarlison all being mentioned. He knows he can get first team football in Germany and certainly Trimboli has spoken to the likes of Southampton, Arsenal, Spartak and Crystal Palace as well as RBL.}



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20 Jun 2018 14:30:03
Sorry didn't see your other post Ed002. Wow we are still paying Rooney that much? And 2 previous manager salaries! Plus which players would be happy to take a step down and a salary reduction? I think Everton have had too much turnover of staff in recent years and tied themselves up in contracts galore! I will have a look for your previous post. Suffice it to say, I expect little change in the staff at Everton.




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27 Jan 2018 08:21:43
I think the club were shocked at Barkley's determination to leave. Especially as it coincided with Lukaku. That's are 2 top scorers and there was and obvious need to replace them both. We were then caught up in the shock of extra TV money causing an instant increase intop players values. so the likes of Sigurdson's fee of £45 million cames as a shock. Add into that Giroud mucking about. signing/ not signing and then the availability of Rooney and Klaasen. (Klaasen's fee being somewhat lower) . The whole lot was messy and poor. then Baines got injured. it is just all messy. but the dice didn't fall in the best way for us.





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18 Oct 2018 15:43:24
I think Barkley is a quality player with real ability who has amazing potential that injuries have curtailed. If he can stay fit will blossom. But he has a mouth totally disconnected from any brain and even if there is a connection, he makes Rooney look like a genius! What the **** is he doing coming out with comments about EFC now anyway? The guy might be a great footballer, but he is an person for getting involved with his past club and silly comments!


{Ed025's Note - a rocking horse has more brains than ross degsy, amazing potential only matters if you realize it and up to now he is falling well short mate..



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18 Oct 2018 15:40:27
No brainer. Quality and a worker and scores goals from midfield. and on a free?




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14 Oct 2018 22:10:57
Are there really supporters who don't want him? Really? We are are surely back on the trail again. At least I think so. And many will tell you I was the most negative of the negatives. Trust me. We are on the way up again. This manager is signing players of real quality. The problem he has is that we signed such rubbish over the last 6 years so he has to sort all that out first. hence Williams, Martina and others being released/ sent out on loan.




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12 Oct 2018 22:50:53
I suspect Barkley will also come good. although he hissed a lot of Blues off. He is still only 24 and when you think he has another say 8 years of playing in him. wow if he hadnt have suffered the injuries that held him back, who knows where he would be now? Give him a season or two without major injuries and a run of games and see what happens. I mentioned Peter Reid earlier in a post and will say something else about him. he was written off after a succession of bad injuries but Howard Kendall risked buying him and the rest is history.




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12 Oct 2018 13:39:51
Yes GB but now you can see their development coming on. I cannot rate Davies any higher. He is a workhorse in the way of Peter Reid, Steve McMahon (who we let go way too soon) , Alan Ball and others who had great engines. Yes his passing is sometimes astray and his confidence was shot last season. but he is still only 20. I was still in nappies at that age! I suspect he will attract loads of interest from other clubs.