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10 Feb 2019 00:00:33
The results almost inevitable. This is a team in free fall and the manager does not have the ability to stop it.
That said there is no point changing anything now. Use the time we have till the end of the season to find a winner and build from there. Brands has a big job on his hands. Time he started earning his money.


1.) 10 Feb 2019 10:05:15
How do you know he isn’t earning his money? I can’t see what he does daily, maybe you can, I don’t know. But he is a proven DoF who can’t bring success in 1 season.

Maybe he is working his socks off but finding it difficult due to the manager not delivering? Sometimes the long processes that require our patience are the ones that bring richer rewards.

2.) 10 Feb 2019 13:53:13
Calm down son we’re all entitled to our opinion. And I would imagine as the DOF he will not be best pleased with what he is seeing. So step in and sort it out. We are likely to finish bottom half of the table, if we carry on like that next season we will be relegated. That’s the reality of it.

3.) 13 Feb 2019 14:10:58
How does he sort it out Woburn?
He is not the manager and is not on the training field - and nor should he be.
His job is to identify players we need, to manage the Scouting, to ensure that all age grouyps across the club have a similar philosophy.

He said when he took the post that he had told FM that if he wanted a quick fix he was not the man. And i'm pretty sure that hasn't changed.



23 Dec 2018 23:44:40
This team has not recovered since the derby defeat. The players are playing with a lack of belief. It was very evident today that we were being torn apart in midfield, thus putting pressure on a defence that is already rocky at best. Playing two wide players gave them the freedom of the park, something that could and should have been rectified before there first goal. It wasn't so that has to be down to the manager.

Hopefully he will learn from this and will now see who is up for it and who isn't. Otherwise it's back to square one again sadly.


1.) 24 Dec 2018 08:40:16
Having calmed down (and less wife beater in my system) , have to be more objective. No I am not calling for Silva's head (yet) , I didn't want him in the first place for reasons historical but he is here now so let's see how the next few games go. Seen various reports on the game but one in particular was spot on. Where we are at this stage it was and is quite naive if not stupid to try and take a Team like Spurs on at their own game, you have to play ugly football if need be and by that, negate and deny space. Forget which of you posted it by the way but the comment 'would rather go down than watch the football Alardyce played' is at best not worthy of a real supporter. Can't promise to be all Mr Sunshine and Rosy Glasses but I can sincerely wish you all a very MERRY CHRISTMAS.

2.) 24 Dec 2018 09:46:15
I wrote that I would prefer to go down than watch Alardyce’s football.

I stand by that. Any FOOTBALL fan from any team would agree. It’s about entertainment, it’s about having a go. it’s about being excited about match day.

Yesterday was tough to watch but still miles better than having no shots at goal in a match. If we go down (which we won’t) I’ll still be supporting the club I love. Would you? As you’d prefer to watching big sam’s hopeless boring dross than be relegated!

In my personal opinion and we are all entitled to ours, your either still on the wife beater or on the wind up or in need of the men in white Coates.

Not a real supporter. hahaha

Have a great Xmas every football fan, but you blues have an extra special one.

3.) 24 Dec 2018 19:51:41
WOW, PrestonBlue! Rather go down than watch Alardyce football, awful and naive comment. Have you asked other football fans? think they would disagree with you.

4.) 24 Dec 2018 22:58:30
Have a good Christmas ktf, you need some cheer.

Awful and naive in your opinion which is moo. Moo! you know like a moo point. Moo! Like a cows opinion, it doesn’t matter.

Happy Christmas to everyone and a special thanks to all the ed’s For their fantastic insight and opinion.



04 Feb 2018 15:47:14
Rumour Utd looking at Pickford if they lose degea. Well if Sam is still here in the summer he will probably sell him.
Allardyce is a Championship manager at best, and is clearly out of his depth with us.
If we are going to spend big in the summer, then we need to do it on a manager. One with a history of winning, and who has a history of winning.
Not one who has a history of keeping teams up, and believes a draw is a good result.


1.) 04 Feb 2018 22:22:00
Who could blame PIckford for moving to a club that wins trophies and regularly plays Champions League football?

2.) 05 Feb 2018 06:41:33
We will probably lose Lookman, Davies and Vlasic as well. Especially if SA stays.

3.) 05 Feb 2018 11:25:07
Vlasic can go along with B.S.
Pair of charlatans.

4.) 05 Feb 2018 19:34:18
Don't get Vlasic know he's young but light years behind lookman and defensively exposes our fullbacks.

5.) 06 Feb 2018 14:59:37
Vlasic exposes the fullbacks because he isn't a winger, he plays central and that is why he drifts inside all the time. The lad has talent but again is being mismanaged.



15 Aug 2017 23:38:02
Sigurdsson, Rooney, Keane, Klassen, Pickford and Ramirez so far. How can anybody complain about any of that. A striker and a centre back now would finish it off nicely. Oh and don't forget we have Coleman and Bolasie coming back. 👍👍.


1.) 16 Aug 2017 07:28:42
It's been a really good window for me WB. Even if we don't get another striker, I think the squad looks good.

2.) 16 Aug 2017 07:35:35
It nicely put there Woburnblue.

3.) 16 Aug 2017 14:32:02
Need a striker without a shadow of doubt, at the moment we can cope with Williams and Keane in the backline, but for me a striker is a must.



15 Aug 2017 20:14:51
Yes Gareth Barry has been a good player for the club. But he is getting too slow now, and in an area of the pitch where you need pace he is getting found out. Hence the bookings. I wish him all the best at West Brom, but him leaving opens the door for someone else.


1.) 15 Aug 2017 21:16:23
You should probably study his career history and realise he was always liable to a bunch of bookings and a suspension most seasons. It was his game to break it up anyway he could. Being slower only made the fouls a bit more obvious ;) Good luck Gareth Barry, I wasnt keen but I remember a Villa fan saying that only fans who see him week in week out, get what he was all about. Now go and smash Giggs and put that yellow card record out of sight.

2.) 15 Aug 2017 21:27:18
Finally we have our man! Sad to see GB go, I would have liked him to stay for another season, quality - but Gyfi is pure class. just need some bolstering up front now and maybe the left sided defender - but all in all a very good transfer window! Happy days.

3.) 15 Aug 2017 21:34:03
An area of the pitch you need pace? For real? His job is, and always was, to break up the flow of opposition midfield, stop their forward breaks and keep our line steady. He's a defensive enforcer in my view, someone who always puts his body on the line to make the defence job a little easier. Yes he gets a lot of bookings but because he is brave in any situation and knows the tactical advantage of when committing a foul is more of a benefit to the team. I think he would have been a real asset for us in the last half hour of any game where we are under pressure and need to stop such attacking threats. I wil miss him and wish him nothing but the best at West Brom.

4.) 15 Aug 2017 21:57:44
Pace is a quality worth having regardless of your position on the pitch. Having pace when trying to beat players to the ball and break up play is certainly worthwhile. I'd like to have kept him - but it was right to let him go and play games. Good luck GB!

5.) 15 Aug 2017 22:23:03
Anyone saying pace isn't important clearly didn't see the Goodison derby last year. We were on top until Jimmy Mc went off but Gareth B couldn't deal with the pace.

Good luck to him and thanks very much.
But time to move on.

6.) 15 Aug 2017 22:57:58
Thanks Dave, it would appear sentiment is ruling people's heads at the minute. As I said good player in his time but time catches up with us all, and now was Gareth's time.

7.) 16 Aug 2017 05:53:00
Agree Woburn.
At the match you constantly hear people having a go at him because of lack of pace. But as soon as he is moving the sentiment starts.

Alex Ferguson - and dare I say the reds teams of the eighties knew when to move people on before their performance dipped.
For me Gaz Baz could have gone 12 months ago.

Model pro, very respectful other two others I could mention - but we are aiming higher now.





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12 Feb 2019 18:12:17
Putting the manager issue to one side for the moment. Has anyone thought that maybe the main proble we have is with the players themselves.
I don't just mean the first team either, but all the other players we have who are still either attached to the club, and are out on loan, and those just sitting on there back sides taking a wage.
It can't help team unity having these players hanging around the club, returning from loans etc.
So will the biggest challenge this summer be getting these players out of the club?
Thus allowing the manager to bring in and work with the squad he wants.
Just a thought.


1.) 12 Feb 2019 18:58:51
There's: Ashley Williams, Kevin Miraiias, Oumar Niasse, Muhamed Besic, Morgan Schneiderlin, Cuzco Martina, Sandro Ramirez, Yannick Bolasie, Nikola Vlasic, Luke Garbutt and probably one or two I have missed.

2.) 12 Feb 2019 19:04:20
Definitely. This summer will hopefully see plenty of departures, especially to aid player recruitment. There have been too many poor purchases from the previous DoF that just aren’t good enough to make us better. Some have already gone but others are still here.

{Ed025's Note - bloody loads of them ace as woburn has just pointed out..

3.) 12 Feb 2019 19:15:39
To get them we paid over the top then there is wages and the same for Managers. To get the players out I reckon we will have to take a hit. What a mess.

4.) 12 Feb 2019 19:18:28
It's no coincidence that under Martinez we scored but let loads in. Under Koeman eventually we conceded loads and scored a couple. Under Allardyce we conceded a fair few and scored very few.
There is one common denominator, the players. Yes we have bought new ones but we still have a backbone of old managers players and still no striker.
You have to question whether Keane, Siggy, Coleman (since the injury) Walcott, Tosun and DCL would get in at Leicester, Wolves or Arsenal, because if were aiming for top 6 or 7 we need players who would.
I'm not sure many if any would.

5.) 12 Feb 2019 20:32:21
Who at the club allowed so many players to be bought? we seem to have a lot of players on the books and the squad is still not balanced FM is here for the business side of things so who else at the club let all these players in? Wonder if any of the eds could shine a bit of light . Not looking to put the blame on just one person but how can such a huge mistake have been made.

6.) 12 Feb 2019 20:47:22
Maureen the tea lady has a lot to answer for Skylark.

7.) 12 Feb 2019 22:39:39
Has she been putting bromide in the tea again? No wonder they can't get motivated during the game :-)

8.) 13 Feb 2019 12:21:45
The blame lies squarely with Walsh and therefore indirectly with the Board for appointing a scout as a DoF. Absolute madness that appointment with consequences that will take years to rectify.

Of the players Woburn listed Vlasic is the only one I would consider keeping (and I really mean consider) , the rest need to be offloaded sharpish. The challenge will be why would they leave when nobody else will pay them anywhere near what we are, so we're likely to be stuck with the majority until the end of their contracts.

9.) 13 Feb 2019 13:27:46
They wanted Walsh but the only way he would come was as DoF, as you say it was a huge error. We can only guess but whoever it is giving advice to Mr Moshri has a lot to answer for. It has been error after error, as an article I read says we have steadily become worse instead of progressing. I would not hesitate to suggest that in terms of football progression is behind where it was when Moyes left.

{Ed002's Note - Walsh was not appointed on the advice of the same person who has been advising Mr Moshiri.}



06 Feb 2019 16:07:34
Given this is a game we are expected to use, would this not be a good time to bring Macca into the side. Him and Gueye in midfield, allowing Gomes a free role in the middle. Put Lookman and Richie out wide and have Tosun or DCL up front. Play 4.3.3, and put Sig on the bench.
Or dop Keane and play two goalies. 🙈🙉.


1.) 06 Feb 2019 16:40:35
I’d give macca a go definitely. But I’d also keep Gueye out and have Bernard in at 10 keeping Gomez close to macca to mop up any break down. He’s got the technique to be able to get it to Bernard quick enough to cause them problems.

2.) 06 Feb 2019 18:01:49
Id play 442 the usual inept back 5 because that's all we've got fit, maca and davies in the middle bernard and lookman out wide and ricky and tosun upfront press really hard and counter as fast as possible. How worse can it get so shake things up.



04 Feb 2019 21:02:02
Well whatever the problems the first team are having it certainly is not effecting the U23s. Watched them tonight at Swansea, strong defence and quick in attack. Hornby is a big lad and has a lovely touch. And given that we have just loaned out a few youngsters, we still have a lot of talent there.
Silva could do with watching these boys, they might keep him in a job.


1.) 04 Feb 2019 21:06:00
Defending zonally?

2.) 04 Feb 2019 22:33:53
Yes, but they know how to do it.

3.) 05 Feb 2019 00:12:10
Unsworth does not get the credit he deserves. Year in year out the U23's do very well. Regardless of how many have made it or will make it in the future Unsworth has them playing well as a team which is not what Silva is doing with the first team.

4.) 05 Feb 2019 09:45:05
Yea look at unsworth doing Silavas style of play better than silva, but sorry dave ya gunna have to go mate because Woburn knows business and your just an old boy we need young blood to take over your table topping team if wer ever gunna move forward.
See how ridiculous that sound when u put it on paper.

5.) 05 Feb 2019 09:58:27
Johny as I recall Unsworth was given a go and it didn't work. Managing the U23s is a little different to managing the first team. Bit like running a corner shop and then being asked to run Waitrose. It's to big a step for some.
And if you want to get personal, then yes I do know business, and in business you employ those who can do, not those who you think might be able to do. Otherwise you have no business.

6.) 05 Feb 2019 10:33:07
To be fair to Rhino Woburn he hardly had any time with the boys just over a month and you could see an improvement in his last game. His record in the PL over the period was P5 W2 D1 L2 and he had the haribo EL matches to contend with. Not so bad after all.

7.) 05 Feb 2019 10:54:12
Am not saying he should be 1st team coach am saying why should he go just because u want young blood even tho his job is to produce good youth players and he has consistently done that since he has been employed but u no business so what do I no ay.

8.) 05 Feb 2019 12:28:00
Sorry am I missing something here? Just what youth players have we produced? Oh yes Barkley. Who else?

9.) 05 Feb 2019 16:25:10
Woburn u waffle some garbage mate, Kenny? Dowell? Evans Beni Davies Williams Connelly Gordon Feeney con there are a lot of good youth players just cos the first team coach hasn't the balls to play them doesn't mean Unsworth is doing a poor job.

10.) 05 Feb 2019 19:21:36
As I recall they played in Euros and look how that turned out.

11.) 05 Feb 2019 19:47:54
Euros? Are u talking about when we played them in the europa league last year? The game we won 3 nil with feeney beni hornby and a few others played in? Wouldn't say they did badly.

12.) 05 Feb 2019 20:53:36
You have a very selective memory. 😂.

13.) 05 Feb 2019 22:21:42
That's the only game the kids played it mate so what's your point, unsworth should be sacked because we went out the europa league haha idiotic that mate, suppose your betting on city tomorrow like a real fan anyway ay.

14.) 06 Feb 2019 08:30:33
Unsworth consistently has the U23's doing well, does Mr Silva consult with Unsworth? Of course he does, and others. But the final decision is his, as is tactics, selection etc!

15.) 06 Feb 2019 10:23:14
exactly ducks its silva not playing them not unsworth not producing them.



03 Feb 2019 14:05:00
Seems to me that the last few managers we have had have all had one thing in common. There stubbornness to continually play players who are clearly out of form. We have this now with Siggy, the guy clearly is not on the pace right now and looks a shadow of the player we know he can be. Ultimately this results in them losing their job, and the player stays on.
Why not give Bernard a go in that position, at least he would bring some energy into the side. Or play McCarthy as a second holding player and give Gomes licence to roam in midfield. It worked with Reid, Bracewell and Sheedy after all.
Guess what I'm saying is try something different. Because what is being done is clearly not working.


1.) 03 Feb 2019 16:03:17
Walcott being a case in this point WB. Every single blue I speak to says the same thing and can see where it is not working with him playing.



27 Jan 2019 18:40:37
Some fans now blaming Moshiri for all are problems. So let me ask you this. At the time did you all think Koeman was a good appointment? I did. Was Sam a good appointment? I wasn't sure, but many fans believed it was. Then there was the clamour for Silva to be our manger.
What I am getting at is the guy has done everything the fans have asked for. It's not really his fault the players bought by these managers have not exactly met the mark. At least the money was made available.
Think of the alternative if he decided to pull out, we would become another Leeds United.


1.) 27 Jan 2019 19:01:44
Koeman, yes not a clamour but based on Southampton. Who clamoured for this fella, all the platitudes came once he was appointed. There were a couple of Eds and us punters that were quite frankly baffled why he was wanted, to be honest I still fail to understand. Brands moved quickly to try and get us running, the main thrust will be summer.

2.) 27 Jan 2019 20:16:43
I didn't want any of the last four appointments koeman included. and was right and still can't understand why anyone wanted him.

3.) 27 Jan 2019 20:22:12
Look at the guys cv who other than a club director who was seemingly charmed by the man would ever have given him a job at this level?
Moshiri has good intentions but has never been in a position like this at a top football club, he is human and makes mistakes like everyone! However it is how he reacts to the issue that will define him as the clubs owner!

4.) 27 Jan 2019 20:32:46
Abramovich hadn’t been in his position either but surrounded himself with people that knew what they were doing. Moshiri now has Brands, a man with real pedigree. Two seasons of that combination and we’ll be good, providing they get a decent manager in.

5.) 27 Jan 2019 21:01:54
I thought brands also wanted silver?

6.) 27 Jan 2019 21:12:44
Agree with skylark I also believe Brands gave the appointment his blessing!

7.) 28 Jan 2019 12:37:03
Well that's not how I recall it. At the time people where desperate to get rid of Sam and bring in Silva.
What I am trying to get at is none of us are experts, and we all have opinions on who should be our manager. But let's not forget it wasn't that long ago Liverpool supporters where shouting for cloppertys head. But the club were patient and look at them now.

8.) 28 Jan 2019 12:47:01
I and many others I know was never desperate to have silver.




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10 Feb 2019 13:53:13
Calm down son we’re all entitled to our opinion. And I would imagine as the DOF he will not be best pleased with what he is seeing. So step in and sort it out. We are likely to finish bottom half of the table, if we carry on like that next season we will be relegated. That’s the reality of it.




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05 Feb 2019 09:48:28
By the way, if you hired them on their merit, then most of them wouldn't be there now.




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05 Feb 2019 09:46:56
Johns don't be fooled that just because we are top of the U23 league that we have the best youth players. Many clubs loan out there youth players, and an awful lot of what you see are U18s.
By the way I recall when Kenny was given a go people on here were moaning he's not ready shouldn't be near the first team. You can't have it both ways.




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04 Feb 2019 22:32:36
It’s a business Johny, there’s no room for sentiment. As for Unsworth, yes he’s doing a good job. But how many have come through from that squad?


{Ed025's Note - how many have been given a proper chance though woburn?..



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04 Feb 2019 20:31:34
If I were taking over a business (and I’ve had a few) then one of my first tasks would be to clear out the old boy network. Get young blood in with energy and a positive attitude, and a clear understanding of what I want to achieve.
Get the business running properly and at a profit, then sell it for a nice profit.





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22 Feb 2019 17:25:01
He’s having a labotomy to help him forget the last 25years😀
All the best mate, hope you get better soon.




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19 Feb 2019 12:43:36
Moyes is bigger and better than that, really? Pretty much allowed himself to be used and abused by Utd mate, and has gone rapidly down hill since.




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19 Feb 2019 12:39:54
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18 Feb 2019 21:46:24
I would have him back. The guy scores goals and that is what we desperately need. Just don’t see it happening though.




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15 Feb 2019 14:34:30
I would just like to see defenders defend. “There’s the ball clear it”.