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29 Oct 2017 20:42:29
The lack of stability in playing partnerships for me is the issue. We've got some great individual players but but we don't have a team because of all the changes every game.

When we had our best results under Moyes we didn't have the best players, but we had practiced partnerships like Baines and Pienaar, Jagielka and Lescott.

When Leicester won the league they had what looked like a bang average set of players, but there were partnerships like Huth and Morgan, Drinkwater and Kante, Mahrez and Vardy.

For me we have an average set of players at best - remarkable given what we spent in the summer - but we could have a decent team if there was consistency in starting line up. You can't build partnerships or team spirit when you start with a different team every week, nor when you make changes at half time. We need to pick an 11 and stick with it unless we have injuries.


1.) 30 Oct 2017 08:12:30
I agree, although it's not the sole issue, it is a good point! Look at all great teams or even good teams and they have some sort of partnership whether it be a defensive pairing or a creator and finished type, right now you guys have too many ageing players who for some reason won't be dropped. The CB although in their day were great they're just too slow now, the midfield isn't sure enough to protect them either. Everton has an abundance of young talent and it has to get to the point where somebody says 'what do we have to lose'. I hope you manage to fix the issues you have but people calling for ancelotti etc is futile. The thing for me is who will want to manage this Everton team at the minute because although I'm sure you'll be safe I don't know what needs doing personally to fix this state of affairs, I have a few ideas but hey ho I'm not a manager. Goodluck fellas.



22 Aug 2017 22:20:38
SSN just reported we've had a bid turned down for Raul Jiminez at Benfica. Anyone seen much of him?





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29 Mar 2018 07:05:29
I've just read that we're still paying 90% of Koeman's wages. Please tell me that doesn't mean we're doing something similar for Martinez? If we punt Sam in the summer then we'll be paying the wages of one manager at the club in his replacement, two international managers and a retired pensioner.


{Ed025's Note - i dont know how it works windsor, i just know we seem to be getting ripped off mate..

1.) 29 Mar 2018 07:37:43
The board and Moshiri are all adults! They must have agreed the contracts. this is one of my points about hiring and firing a succession of managers. What if the next one struggles? I tend to agree with Ed002 that Unsworth seemed to have turned things around and a lot was to do with the return of Baines and Coleman. We have looked a different team since.

2.) 29 Mar 2018 09:42:23
Agree with that. Unsworth knows the setup inside out. That first win (with Sam in the stands) was Unsworths, we could quite easily have gone on the same run and achieved relative safety. Our return since that run has been near relegation status.

3.) 29 Mar 2018 10:04:33
That's what contracts are for, the board know the situation if they are to terminate one early, its what goes on everywhere another sign of the rising amount of money in the game and how easily it is abused!
On another point I do not believe Unsworth had turned things around Degsy he was out of his depth in the job and it showed. Baines and Coleman did not return until a while after Sam started.
This is why as Ed002 says, the board need to take good advice before the next appointment is made, until then Allardyce will continue, and he may get the next pay off!

4.) 29 Mar 2018 10:28:32
Respect your opinion wakka57. Both comments Degs and mine didn't say Unsworth had turned the Squad around. Degs said appeared to have done and mine said who is to say Unsy would not have gone on the same run as Sam after that first win (Unsworths) . If you look at Sam's run since that initial burst, it has been equivalent to Koeman's prior to his sacking. It is only since Coleman and Baines have come back that we have looked a Team again and that likely would have happened under Unsworth.

5.) 29 Mar 2018 11:06:44
I understand what you are saying dfs, it was my personal opinion that I didn't think even as an old club player he could, I think he needs to learn the job first perhaps in the lower leagues, which is not easy as stubsy has found out.
These days it is not an easy fix when things are broken, Everton FC need some stability and to get on a run of good results which breeds confidence no matter who the Manager is.

6.) 29 Mar 2018 12:32:39
I would be very surprised if we are indeed paying as high as 90%, I would suggest we are making his wages up to what he was on whilst at Everton.

Until a settlement fee is actually agreed upon then I would say we would be obliged to make sure he does not lose out financially, so if he gained employment that paid half of hiw wage then it would be up to us to pay the other 50% until it went to arbitration or court.

Paying out a compensation package is not as easy as just paying him his wages up until the end of his contract, because if he then got a job does he pay back the extra that we have paid him. He may well have a clause in his contract that states should he be sacked before the ending of his second season, then we pay him his full wages, or a percentage. The fact that he now has another job will be to our benefit in the long run as we can now say his reputation has not been that badly damaged due to the fact he is a manager of a national side.

7.) 29 Mar 2018 12:54:08
I would take a good look at Unsworths games in charge, first three were away fixtures, others in an almost dead rubber Europa league, after exciting Europe, we had a decent fixture run the first being a good home win, then he was axed before the following fixtures and Sam got those winnable games, too many listened to the pe teacher comments, I have no doubt, had we left Unsworth in charge for those fixtures, we would have got the same results or better, you cannot knock Unsworth for mixing youth with experiance in those later Europa games, one of our few successes this season for me was unsworths inclusion of Beningame, ow nowhere to be seen, so yes for a short while Unsworth was out of his death with the squad he had all out of confidence, and his unlucky timing of the fixtures he had to come into.

8.) 29 Mar 2018 13:08:16
My original point was about how we negotiate managerial contracts. I work in a sales environment which is target orientated. If I don’t hit expected performance levels over a certain period without signs of improvement I lost my job - no payoff, no ongoing payments. That includes the performance of the ttwo and I recruit, train and manage. I cannot understand how managerial contracts in football are any different. Surely performance expectations are set when the contract is signed and if they are not met you have breached your contract. If via a performance management programme over a pre-defined period does not rectify that performance then surely you just lose your job?

9.) 29 Mar 2018 13:19:02
I thought this thread was about paying RK.

Just my luck to be wrong.

As I have excluded myself from SA posts I shall step away from this one.

10.) 29 Mar 2018 14:01:53
Calm down Grumpy people are just having a conversation.

And WIndsor, I think the main difference between your sales job and a prem manager is with respect, there are probably a hundred other people in your area that are capable and willing to do your job.

When we look for a new manager if we tried to include performance related targets they would just refuse. And we would be stuck looking for someone else. There are not a lot of managers out there that we want and even less who would want to come here. The managers know this and have us by the balls.

11.) 29 Mar 2018 14:09:11
It is about ronnies contract, Sam was brought in due to the fact we could be paying a similar payout, should we relieve Sam in the Summer and ties in with a payout, part of the Unsworth was brought in, in regards to the payout Sam will get and if we could have saved on this, had we been a bit more patient with Unsworth before bringing someone in, in the Summer.

I know where you are coming from Grumpy, but with a similar payout expected with Sam, it ties in with payouts we have made with our last three full time managers.

12.) 29 Mar 2018 14:16:07
Windsor, I get what you’re saying but I’m sure if you had a very good representative negotiating your employment terms then less would be expected of you with more in return. It’s the agents that are in charge here not the employers.

13.) 29 Mar 2018 18:40:41
Forget about the money guys. Koeman getting us into Europe probably paid for his 3 years wages anyway.
The powers that be will have included the funds for every eventuality.
Big Sam's unexpected wages are on a par with the LB we didn't sign.



13 Jan 2018 19:32:12
Has a team ever gone a full calendar year without a shot on target? At least that's one record we could break.


1.) 13 Jan 2018 19:41:32
Same old problem mate Tosun had no service.

2.) 13 Jan 2018 23:41:14
Agreed mate. Looked to me like he took up some good positions and hungry to go in behind, but we need Sig in behind him at 10 playing those quick clever balls through rather than Rooney there slowing things down.



03 Nov 2017 09:21:42
I've just seen that Unsworth said "for 70 minutes we were near perfect with our gameplan". That is absolutely terrifying. If the game plan was to run around aimlessly with no shape and to give the ball away without passing it forwards then I guess he was right.

He seems to want to get sacked like Koeman did.


{Ed025's Note - thats a bit harsh i think windsor, second half we played some nice stuff for me, maybe somewhere inbetween may be correct mate..



16 Jun 2017 00:01:14
Would just like to say that with £60m already spent on two quality players, I'm in dreamland.

We've waited not years but decades to see this kind of activity and BK deserves a huge amount of credit for this. Not only has he kept us in the top league and solvent, but also made us attractive to someone like Moshiri.

The future's bright. The future's blue.




01 Jun 2017 09:49:29
Just seen that Athletico's transfer ban has been upheld so may be some hope fur is getting Sandro?


1.) 02 Jun 2017 11:03:27
Looks like Utd want Lukaku 100mil plus 127 from the league let's hope we start spending soon.

2.) 03 Jun 2017 10:18:33
Think that's his only option really as he won't play regularly for Chelsea if he goes there. Just hope it's a straight cash deal from Utd for Lukaku rather than them trying to throw Rooney at us in a player plus cash deal.

3.) 03 Jun 2017 11:30:05
Sandro wants to go to Madrid and only has to wait another window. I can see him staying this summer and going there in January. Doubt very much we will see him in an Everton shirt.

4.) 03 Jun 2017 15:40:00
Cannot understand the Rooney part deal, sure he was offered on a free so why would we take Rooney and less cash, that one will not happen, throw in Martial and ££60 million and worth thinking about.




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15 May 2018 19:11:24
I know we’re not in the best of shape, but if Everton and West Ham have both made approaches then I cannot understand why you’d choose that circus. The owners are useless, the stadium is ridiculous and the CEO wants people to watch her TV show over her football team.




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14 May 2018 07:43:33
Not sure that even a relegated Swansea would want Williams after this season.




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12 May 2018 04:58:28
He probably does that so he can work as a limited company providing a service with its own employees rather than an employed individual. That way he pays a faction of the tax which would Ben just like him.




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15 Apr 2018 18:39:12
Raiola typifies everything that is wrong with the game, but look what a similar relationship with Mendes has done for Wolves. I’m not sure whether I don’t want him anywhere near the club or an “if you can’t beat them, join them” attitude. Like it or not agents are part of the game now and seem to have huge influence over players, so I think I’d rather have him on our side than against us.




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12 Jan 2018 12:53:30
He’d give us options but I hope it doesn’t look as though I think he was it of Bolasie or Lookman whose best years are still to come. I’m still worried about lack of a tall striker with a good head. No point focusing on winners who can cross if your strikers are all under six foot.


{Ed025's Note - tosun has a leap like sock eyed salmon windsor so i dont think thats a problem mate..




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19 May 2018 18:05:29
Tierney is a fantastic player but imagine if we could get him he’d want to be first choice straight away. To be fair he’s good enough to be.




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19 May 2018 18:04:04
Begovic for me. In his twilight years but still a top draw keeper. Whether he’d come and be a number two is another matter.




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18 May 2018 20:14:08
Silva took over a Hull team that was going so n and they went down. Benitez took over a Newcastle team that was going down and they went down. Not much difference from what I can see. Granted Benitez has managed at bigger clubs, but Madrid had all the money in the world and he was hardly strapped for cash at Liverpool. Silva's has success abroad with teams in more competitive leagues with a lesser budget. I’d take either.




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16 May 2018 21:44:39
Brilliant Ed.




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15 May 2018 22:13:56
Move to a country where they don’t show Everton games.