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08 May 2017 14:32:38
Ok here is a very surprising fact for you all to ponder.
Lukaku with all of his goals has only produced 10 points for us this season (excludes assists) So had Lukaku not played for us we would be 10 points less than we have now, But we would still be in the same league position as we are now.

If nothing else that fact has made me look at him in a different light.

1.) 08 May 2017 16:46:21
Not a good way to look at it, are you saying he is only worth 10pts to us based on goal where he one us the game. He is the focal point when he plays well we usually get results and if he's bad usually we loose. He will be a massive lose next year if he goes, as we will not only need to replace his goals but add to them that's why we are 7th as if there was someone getting 10 - 15 as well that would be the difference, he's top goalscorer in league and we are 7th that tells you everything you need to know, and by the way take him out of the team and are top goal scorer is OG.

2.) 08 May 2017 17:37:49
I would agree not a good way to look at it but i think you are over-stating his value. Yes he scores goals but if he is not actually scoring he offers very little. Touch is poor, doesn't run the channels, won't chase lost causes. So when you away from home, under the cosh, as per Man U a few weeks ago - he may as well not be there.

Look at Costa - doesn't score the same no. of goals but i bet not many Chelsea supporters would rather have Rom. Aguero, Suarez, Sanchez all offer far more than just goals

I am not comparing the two but Marcus Bent scored nowhere near the goals Rom does - but gave far, far more to the team.

Something between the two would be ideal.

3.) 08 May 2017 19:26:58
Let's face it boys golden boot only because he's had most goals put on a plate for him he's not a team player he spat his dummy out with Williams a couple of weeks ago. A bigger worry is the next top scorer is Barkley with 8.

{Ed025's Note - oh what i would give for prolific midfielder who scored on a regular basis AB..

4.) 08 May 2017 20:50:57
I'm not actually saying anything TrueBlue, I am merely stating a fact and also mentioned that the fact does exclude assists. It is not meant as a critique nor is it meant as a pat on the back.

It is just a fact nothing more nothing less.

5.) 08 May 2017 21:47:03
I'd love to know what time goals were worth last season. we had one of the worst home records in Europe. don't forget that. don't be too hasty to dismiss the most prolific striker we've had in 30 yrs.

{Ed025's Note - fair point mate..

6.) 08 May 2017 22:57:09
Why would we only be 10 points worse off. You are assuming we would have dropped all those 10 points, who's to say with all our play being fed to Lukaku, some of the others may have scored, everyone is saying goals from others are a poor return, could that not be down to all our play being directed to Rom, if you look at Lukaku goals rarely is he the first goal scorer, he does seem to score when we have a lead, so be interesting to know the stats on how many 1 nil win goals he has scored.

7.) 09 May 2017 16:01:28
The games where lukaku has been the only scorer and we have gone on to win are 1. That was away to Sunderland where he scored a hat- trick. This season he has scored zero goals in a 1 - 0 win. He has scored in two 1 - 1 draws against Man City away and home to Crystal Palace. We have won 4 games where he scored more than 1 goal. We have lost 1 game away to Watford where he scored more than 1 goal.



09 Apr 2017 21:34:38
Good result today and an important one that could bode well for us regarding pressure.

We now only need 11 points for us to guarantee us 7th place and European football next season. That is if Southampton Win every game they have left, Should they lose one we only need 8 points. Now 8 points with the final run in we have is very achievable.

We should win all of our games with the exception of a draw against Chelski and a defeat against the Gooners. If the Gooners go into panic mode and we end up playing our last game of the season to snatch 6th place from them then I think we will win that game. Very nice first season RK. Next season we want to be fighting for 4th and 3rd.

1.) 10 Apr 2017 07:23:14
Phil Neville is right to a point. RK is the signing of the summer and in my opinion we are playing better football (far more constructive and solid) , home and away than we did under Martinez. Up to a point means, with the inclusion of RK's brother, Walsh as DoF, retaining of big Dunc and last but not least Mr Moshri's arrival sparking a whole turn around in philosophy, ambition and the confidence which has brought about the consistency needed at this level. We are almost certain to lose Lukaku in the summer but no doubt Mr Walsh and Mr Koeman already have someone in mind plus others which next season will hopefully take us onwards and upwards. COYB.

2.) 10 Apr 2017 11:39:00
In my honest opinion, sadly at moment we have two teams a home team full of attack and promise and a away team far less so . The so called big teams play the same way home and away we need to do the same we could do no worse than we have.



15 Jan 2017 15:49:39
Today showed us that negotiating on transfers is very important. Take John Stones for example £50m + an assist. No wonder it takes so long.



15 Aug 2016 14:04:18
Apparently Yannick Bolasie has signed a 5 year deal with us. Cost £25 million plus add ons.

1.) 15 Aug 2016 16:56:49
22,5 plus addons.

2.) 15 Aug 2016 18:17:52
Yes Bill once again you are correct. At the time I wrote the above it had not been confirmed and was still a rumour. I see I was correct at least in spelling his name right .



14 Aug 2016 11:19:06
What do you think of this for a stat?

Yesterday our new signing Gueye made more tackles than the whole of Spur's midfield made during the match.

That is one heck of a stat.

{Ed025's Note - im very happy grumpy.. :)

1.) 14 Aug 2016 11:29:07
What a little player this fella looks!

2.) 14 Aug 2016 11:51:49
Wow looks a great little player.

3.) 14 Aug 2016 12:14:02
He looks a real good player gives us something extra in midfield and really good passer as well.

4.) 14 Aug 2016 12:21:02
Does anyone else think we'll get more than the 3-4 players ron has said we'll get? Need a keeper 2 strikers I'd rom goes looks like we're in for 2 left wingers still need a creative midd another CB kone?

The 4 players needed doesn't seem enough for me.

5.) 14 Aug 2016 12:35:37
That will do us till January tho.

6.) 14 Aug 2016 13:03:35
Need a striker and an attacking centre mid asap. If lukaku is injured we lack up top and we need a goal threat from the centre of the park.

7.) 14 Aug 2016 13:19:06
He probably made more tackles and interceptions than our whole team combined in the last 5 games of last season.

8.) 14 Aug 2016 13:45:12
It looks like Bolasie is coming, and Koeman has said he wants another CB. We are in for Ghezzal and I hope we get him as he's quick and skilful and Mata is a possibility too.

9.) 14 Aug 2016 13:45:12
It looks like Bolasie is coming, and Koeman has said he wants another CB. We are in for Ghezzal and I hope we get him as he's quick and skilful and Mata is a possibility too.




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15 Aug 2017 17:54:06
Hi Eds,

I have a transfer question that has been puzzling me for years.

Is there a maximum number of years a player can sign for a club?

I have noticed that no one seems to be signing for more than 5 years no matter how big the club or the player are.

{Ed025's Note - i think 6 is the maximum grumpy but its usually stated as 5 years with the option of a sixth mate..

1.) 15 Aug 2017 20:51:50
It wasn't a player but didn't Pardew get an 8 year contract as manager at Newcastle?

2.) 15 Aug 2017 21:09:52
Didn't Asenio sign a 9yr deal with Real Madrid?

3.) 15 Aug 2017 19:13:19
Thank you Ed.

{Ed025's Note - no probs grumpy..



25 Jul 2017 16:51:23
Being an old ( and yes grumpy ) supporter of Everton I can remember when the record transfer fees were less than what the average player now earns in a week ( and you wonder why I'm grumpy )

Anyways that little bit of trivia got me thinking about our previous managers and the faith shown in them by the club owners. I can not remember a time when our club has shown more faith in a manager than what they are now showing with RK. In that statement I do not just mean letting him have plenty of cash, but having the absolute faith in him to let him totally rebuild from the ground upwards. No other manager that I am aware of has been given as much freedom as he has.

It does please this Grumpy old git to see this and I only hope it does not turn into a 3 year joyride when RK leaves the nest he builds, we must not forget that the more successful we become the greater the chance he will be tempted to join a mega-bucks team. I only hope that the working ethos he has instilled into our club remains very much part of it for decades to come.

It's also way too hot here, next door's baby keeps crying . moan moan moan.

1.) 25 Jul 2017 18:22:18
Grumpytoffee: the arrival of Farhad Moshiri - plus the massive television income - means that we have the money to back RK in rebuilding the team. It was the same back in the 1960s when John Moores bankrolled Harry Catterick’s transfer spending, although HC also brought through a load of youth players to the first team.
Managers like Gordon Lee and Billy Bingham were given money to spend (e. g. record fees like Bob Latchford, etc. ) and even Moyes was trusted to spend whatever the club could spare.
The one manager who was really “backed” was Howard Kendall, who - in late 1983 - many fans vociferously wanted sacked. The chairman stuck with him and was rewarded by our mid-1980s success.
Pretty much every Everton manager gets about three years to get things right and they've all been given (comparitively speaking) equal backing (moral if not financial) . The only one to be fired (not left of own accord) in quick time was Mike Walker.



20 Jul 2017 15:28:26
Does anyone know if a player is purchased for say £10m and a season later sold for £8m is the £2m lost tax deductable?

{Ed002's Note - No. the 8M is counted as income.}

1.) 20 Jul 2017 16:22:16
Ed, Is the £10m a tax deductible cost then?

{Ed002's Note - It is an expenditure. Why are you interested in tax deductables?}

2.) 20 Jul 2017 16:30:24
Thanks Ed. Intrigued after reading Grumpy's comment above.



09 Jul 2017 18:05:49
SSN Reporting Mr Rooney will have the number 10 shirt.



08 Jul 2017 12:34:12

I am absolutely shocked by what that idiot wrote.

If I return the hamper for my post of the week will you come back?

p. s the tin of pork luncheon meat has been eaten sorry.

{Ed002's Note - Thaks for the kind words - later today or tomorrow - perhaps after van Dijk signs this afternoon.}

1.) 08 Jul 2017 13:58:54
Why are we interested in Dick Van Dyke are we Ed?

2.) 08 Jul 2017 14:08:43
Now that has to be the tease of the week so far, talk about leaving people in suspense. Welcome back Ed002.

3.) 08 Jul 2017 15:06:09
Well I've sent him the hamper back Rhapsody so why not lol.




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17 Aug 2017 18:13:36
I for one understood the joke Dixie :-)



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15 Aug 2017 20:19:48
Nice reply Kingkoeman sentiments I am sure will be thought by many of us.



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04 Aug 2017 16:45:50
Good reply Ed002 ( can't give you a thumbs up )



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21 Jul 2017 13:15:07
No problem mate, they don't call me grumpy for nothing :-)



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20 Jul 2017 20:34:52
In fairness to you bluetooth I could only find that one post of yours stating an opinion.

The majority of your others posts see you moaning about someone elses post.




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15 Aug 2017 19:13:19
Thank you Ed.

{Ed025's Note - no probs grumpy..



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09 Aug 2017 14:45:45
Firstly Callum how do you know we are only haggling over £5m? Other than press talk NO ONE from either Everton or Swansea have ever said this. How do you that the stumbling block is not Swansea wanting wanting another £25m in add-ons or something like that? How do you know that RK has not said to the board not to pay over a certain amount because he feels the player is not worth that amount? How do you know that Swansea actually want £50m for him? because it is my understanding that they have NEVER given a price, it is all based on the presses "understanding"

You seem to be so fast at criticizing Everton when all you know is what the press are saying, I remember it once being reported by a certain newspaper that a double decker bus had been found on the moon but I for one do not believe it nor do I believe any reports on our transfer targets that contain any of the words " we understand" or " Scources close to the club say ".

When you say RK say's we have only spent £7m so far you have taken that totally out of context, why not put the rest of what he was saying at the time into your quotes? The fact we have done good business so far in this window and that a total of ALL our sales including Lukaku have resulted in us being able to buy all of the players on our target list so far.

I am not sure you really do understand that the club is moving forward when in your very next comment you state we are going backwards, this after our best transfer window in the clubs history and RK getting every single player he has wanted so far.

I can honestly say I do not know what it will take to appease not only you Callum, but all of the other doom-sayers out there, I think if we won the league you moaners would only complain we should of had more points and we are a disgrace. Well I for one am in the camp of RK when he says he is happy with the window so far.



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08 Aug 2017 20:01:59
But Bill the point is that we have had the best ever transfer window in our history and there are people who are still not happy. If the Sigi deal collapses then it is still our best ever transfer window. No one except Swansea and a few members on here believe he is worth the £50m asking price so why worry if we do not get him?



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08 Aug 2017 19:54:26
I may be grumpy Bjarkster007 but I'm never negative.

In fact I am so positive I will have a wager with you.

If we are BOTTOM of the league after 5 games I will donate £100 to Everton in the community in your name. If on the other hand we are not Bottom then you donate £100 in my name.

Lets see how negative you really are or if you are all gob.



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08 Aug 2017 18:07:47
11 new signings and still 3 weeks to go, how many signings will it take to make you happy?