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15 Jan 2017 15:49:39
Today showed us that negotiating on transfers is very important. Take John Stones for example £50m + an assist. No wonder it takes so long.



15 Aug 2016 14:04:18
Apparently Yannick Bolasie has signed a 5 year deal with us. Cost £25 million plus add ons.

1.) 15 Aug 2016 16:56:49
22,5 plus addons.

2.) 15 Aug 2016 18:17:52
Yes Bill once again you are correct. At the time I wrote the above it had not been confirmed and was still a rumour. I see I was correct at least in spelling his name right .



14 Aug 2016 11:19:06
What do you think of this for a stat?

Yesterday our new signing Gueye made more tackles than the whole of Spur's midfield made during the match.

That is one heck of a stat.

{Ed025's Note - im very happy grumpy.. :)

1.) 14 Aug 2016 11:29:07
What a little player this fella looks!

2.) 14 Aug 2016 11:51:49
Wow looks a great little player.

3.) 14 Aug 2016 12:14:02
He looks a real good player gives us something extra in midfield and really good passer as well.

4.) 14 Aug 2016 12:21:02
Does anyone else think we'll get more than the 3-4 players ron has said we'll get? Need a keeper 2 strikers I'd rom goes looks like we're in for 2 left wingers still need a creative midd another CB kone?

The 4 players needed doesn't seem enough for me.

5.) 14 Aug 2016 12:35:37
That will do us till January tho.

6.) 14 Aug 2016 13:03:35
Need a striker and an attacking centre mid asap. If lukaku is injured we lack up top and we need a goal threat from the centre of the park.

7.) 14 Aug 2016 13:19:06
He probably made more tackles and interceptions than our whole team combined in the last 5 games of last season.

8.) 14 Aug 2016 13:45:12
It looks like Bolasie is coming, and Koeman has said he wants another CB. We are in for Ghezzal and I hope we get him as he's quick and skilful and Mata is a possibility too.

9.) 14 Aug 2016 13:45:12
It looks like Bolasie is coming, and Koeman has said he wants another CB. We are in for Ghezzal and I hope we get him as he's quick and skilful and Mata is a possibility too.



25 Jul 2016 20:04:17
Reports we have activated a minimum fee release clause for Stokes Arnautovic priced at £12 million.

1.) 25 Jul 2016 20:44:28
It's on sky Austria that we've signed him and could be presented tomorrow. Id true, didn't see this one cominh.

2.) 25 Jul 2016 22:05:54
I like him me and 12 million a steal.

3.) 25 Jul 2016 22:14:48
Fantastic football player. Always reminded me of Zlatan, only showed his class the last two seasons but if he played for a top 6 club would get far more plaudits, double the player Bjoan is at Stoke.
Hope this one is true but I heard he was off to the dark side.

4.) 25 Jul 2016 22:27:57
The sentinel newspaper says that Stoke are still hopeful of convincing him to sign a new contract and if not they would not except anything lower than 12.5 million in clause how can he signed for us if he is away with Stoke in America hope he does sign he is a quality player but believe it when i see it though.

5.) 25 Jul 2016 22:47:03
I think he would of gone if they had not signed wjnaldun. they got firmino
And wjnaldum who play left mI'd already.

6.) 25 Jul 2016 23:56:37
To be fair, negotiations can be done by representatives, if it comes to it his medical can be done by a third party. I don't know whether the rumor is true or not by the fact he is in a different country would not stand in the way.

7.) 25 Jul 2016 20:55:16
Any news on this ed strong reports coming out of his homeland 4 year deal be announced tomorrow.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any announcement due on Monday - I am only aware of what was discussed the other day that Stoke have said that he has been reluctant to sign a new contract (due primarily to wage demands) and that with his release clause there are two interested English sides (Crystal Palace and Everton) and residual interest from Sporting Lisbon. Stoke are unhappy that the player will not share is plans with the club and this has led them to make provision in looking for a replacement - and they will look to negotiations as soon as the situation becomes clear. Previously the player has said that he should be playing in the Champions League. So that leaves two English clubs, Everton and Crystal Palace, keen on Arnautovic but his wage demands are high and his expectation is Champions League. Certainly his wage demands would keep Sporting out of the picture. So we will see.}

8.) 26 Jul 2016 11:43:55
Sky Sports News website update from 11.20am says he is on the verge of signing for us. Fee £12.5 million.

9.) 26 Jul 2016 11:43:55
Sky Sports News website update from 11.20am says he is on the verge of signing for us. Fee £12.5 million.



06 Jun 2016 09:54:27
From Sky sports news

Everton and Southampton are close to finalising a £5m compensation deal for the Dutchman to take over at Goodison Park, Sky sources understand.

1.) 06 Jun 2016 10:21:52
Excellent. Can you believe how many people thinking Koeman moving to Everton from Southampton is a backward or sideways move?! They're living in cloud cuckoo land. Southampton?! 1 FA Cup and a Johnstone's Paint Trophy 😂😂😂😂. Jokers. Back in the big time for us where we belong. COYB!

2.) 06 Jun 2016 11:04:13
They are just upset mate, don't blame them to be honest, they will get over it, happens to us all.

3.) 06 Jun 2016 11:26:13
I hate it when the media try to sell our players to United. So I sympathise totally with Southampton fans who think RK should stay with them. I'm not saying they're justified by saying Southampton are a bigger club, they're not. But it is as annoying to them as it is when it happens to us.

They have my sympathy. And it looks like we have their Manager.

4.) 06 Jun 2016 14:02:53
Good appointment but we are a long way from the big time as RM left the club in such a mess, we need a complete rebuild and it will take time.

5.) 06 Jun 2016 14:15:29
I wonder who he will try and bring to Everton when he finally becomes our manager, there's a few I'd like.

6.) 06 Jun 2016 14:44:04
Don't think we r that far off a few players a change off tactics that includes a plan b/ c and cut out the mistakes who knows where we can finish fingers crossed though exciting times ahead.




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10 Jan 2017 21:47:49
So one long post from Grumpy at 15.45 hours
major new signing agreed 19.45 hours.


I Think Not

1.) 11 Jan 2017 13:50:13
Tallaghblue, in a word No.



10 Jan 2017 15:37:09
Well here we are again, 10 days into the silly season and the blue naysayers are out in force.

A blue naysayer is different to your typical naysayer in that they pretend it is the clubs best interests they have at heart, nothing could be further from the truth. Just because they put COYB or similar onto the posts they make does not make the post more valid, let me explain.

Quote " We have a so called £100 million to spend on players but we have not got any so far. RK is rubbish Coyb "

Quote " We have all of this so called money for players yet signed no one, another lie by moshri and Co, I love Everton "

Quote " Arguing over a paltry 2 million for Schniderline, get rid of BK. Everton are the best "

Quote " Moshri been here almost a year and still no agreement on ground we are a laughing stock, Everton forever "

Quote " Walsh not doing his job properly at our club, he got Southampton 50 billion players for a quid and got us nothing, Come on Everton "

Quote " I see we are going after players A, B, and C, Koeman and walsh don't know what they are doing we should be going after Players x, y, and z sack them both, long live the toffees. "

Quote " Whilst Walsh, Koeman and Moshri are in the club we will never progress, time for change I think, stick with the toffee "

Whilst the above quotes are not exact in the presentation they are a reasonable parody.

An alarming thing is that similar posts are popping up on a daily basis and appears to be gathering momentum, more and more people seem to be jumping aboard either this train or the " But " train, you all know that monster,

Quote " RK is doing a great job here BUT he is rubbish and should be sacked "

Quote " BK does a fantastic job negotiating BUT he is an old fart and should retire "

The nagging naysayers and the BUT brigade are formidable opponents, they will wear you down and turn you if they go unchallenged, so it is our job, no our duty to stand up to these fools no matter what guise they come in.

Let me address some common charges they bring during the silly season.

Q " We are supposed to have £100 million to spend on players "
A Say's who? Who from EFC has ever officially said this?

Q " We are arguing with Utd over a measly £2 million why not just buy him?
A Ok let's say we spend that extra £2 million. Now let's say we only have £40 million total to spend that is us paying out an extra 5% of our total transfer budget. Now if we are interested in 3 players and they will cost £45 million we need to negotiate every penny we can to get the price down to £40 million. Negotiating a better deal is the only way we will get the 3 players we want. It does not matter in the least if we can buy him 10 times over if the FFP says this season we only have x amount to spend on players then that is all we have.

Q " Why are we not looking for a player to play in? position, RK is a joke looking for the wrong players"
A Koeman is without doubt they ONLY person who really knows the order in which we need to buy in players and more importantly the budget available to obtain said players, he relays this to Walsh. On these forums we have some very knowledgeable people who understand the processes involved more than most, take Degsy he has been a manager of a professional football club in the past and understands the frustrations more than most.

Q " Why is BK still doing the negotiating for us? "
A BK has one of, if not, the Best reputations in the world for the negotiating of players, apparently he is absolutely ruthless and has the respect of every british and European club for it, Even the RS higherarchy respect him. He may take time but the £millions he has saved us because of that is amazing.

So to recap

1 We do have money, lots of it, but the FFP will not allow us to spend it on transfers.

2 Koeman knows where he needs to rebuild from.

3 Kenwright is still negotiating for us because the game has no one better.

4 Degsy really is very knowledgeable on how the internals of a professional club work.

I could go on but feel I really have little to add to what I have written so far. Be patient and COYB oh wait a sec did I just say coyb .

1.) 10 Jan 2017 16:15:23
Great post Grumpy no doubt there will be more naysayers before the end of the window also all these so called experts, i say leave it to Mr Walsh and R K I am sure they are far more aware of what needs to be done than us, GuernseyBlue

2.) 10 Jan 2017 16:58:56
Grumpytoffee, good realistic post agree on your end comments.

3.) 10 Jan 2017 17:05:45
I'm with you Grumpy people are always trying to see the worse in the way the club does things, I'm looking forward to the future with Moshiri, RK and Walsh all here and trust they are doing everything for the good of the club too many fifa and football manager supporters on here sometimes.

4.) 10 Jan 2017 17:51:55
I agree with some of your post Grumpy but whereas I am made up with Moshiri, Kenwright as Chairman still, Koeman, Walsh and the stadium progression, I am concerned as already stated about our transfer business and how poorly we APPEAR to perform in each window.

I'm not saying anything is fact and everything we hear is mainly hypothetical but maybe we can all take off our blue tinted glasses off sometimes and look at things from another perspective.

I like Koemans supposed targets and if correct the ones that ED002 has mentioned as well and I trust all things that come from the ED's. I can still have concerns though and because I love the club I will speak out over them. If I didn't then I wouldn't be a true fan and if I thought something didn't feel right and didn't say it then again I wouldn't be a true fan.

Some people attack the club and people running through spite and a cloud of hatred that has developed over the years in a false perception that Kenwright has been trying to ruin the club.

Some of us other fans have immense pride in how we conduct ourselves and what must be the best reputation any club has in football in work it does not just for it's own community but for other clubs as well.

Our club in my eyes is the best in the world and no other will ever come close to it. The current people running it will make it even better. I trust and believe in that.


5.) 10 Jan 2017 17:52:04
Grumpy it isn't kenwright I worry about in negotiations although he is a little to cautious for me at times, rather surprising given his profession.

6.) 10 Jan 2017 18:01:43
Enjoyable read Grumpy. You must have too much time on your hands sending in posts like that.

7.) 10 Jan 2017 19:20:31
Certainly living up to your name mate! I am laughing my socks off. Do you have steam coming out of your ears?

8.) 10 Jan 2017 20:34:14
Fully agree GuernseyBlue I'm not sure what brings them out, I'm sure by the standards of writing on some of the posts that teachers everywhere will be mortified, at least no one has said "Dude" yet.

Thanks for your comment Alwaysblue.

Lee1878 I echo your sentiments and I think you are right that the majority of those posters are busy getting all their info playing "Football Manager"

BlueJohnUs I enjoy reading your posts as I am sure most of us do. I don't think anyone has any objection to people voicing their concerns regards our club What gets up my nose in particular is voicing them in such a way that the club is all but doomed, the manager needs sacking and we need yet another investor. It's those type of posts that make toothache a welcome distraction. Personally I have no objection to posts that encourage banter.

MEverton I suppose it is because it has always been his own personal money at stake, imagine coming close to bankruptcy on a few occasions over a football club.

Tedster, Training squirrels at this time of year leaves me with plenty of time, can't find the pesky buggers anywhere.

And finally Degsy. Yes.

9.) 10 Jan 2017 21:01:13
100% Grumpy. Right there with you.



01 Jan 2017 13:08:07
Just been on the sky sports transfer center page and clicked on a link for " top January Spenders "

What it shows is each of the Premierships teams total spends in the January window since the 2002/ 2003 season.

What surprised me most was that the currant top six teams in the league just happen to be the biggest spenders in this window.

I have never really given this window much importance in the past as I usually associate it with buying in replacements for injured players etc. I'm going to be placing more belief in this window from now on as it does seem to be an important part in clubs future standings.



31 Dec 2016 14:24:19
Like many of you I watched the match last night and came away happy that we managed to get a draw that we never deserved.

Whilst the game was on in live chat I sort of stuck my neck out a little and said in my opinion all that Barklay, and Lukaku need is the right type of players around them to unleash their potential, Someone ( don't remember who ) mentioned Mirallis should be included as he had quote " Run his socks off "

What I mean by having the right players around them is having players who understand the positions those three and others around them play in.

What was clearly evident not only last night but other games this season is the lack of understanding our players seem to have of what other team mates are doing. Last season Leicester had that and so far this season four of the top five have that, the exception being Spurs who are not that far from being there.

You could be the greatest most accurate passer of a ball the worlds has ever seen but that amounts to very little if you don't know where to pass it, You could be the greatest striker the game has ever seen but again it means nothing if you never have the ball.

All of the worlds great players had an understanding of where the ball needed to be without having to look around or had an understanding of where it was they need to be or the space they needed to create, or run into. The reds ( I hate to say ) are almost there, they understand how each other play, and know where all there team mates are, and look at how free scoring they have become it is sickening.

With us when someone passes a ball and it goes into nowhere we as fans and the players on the pitch bemoan the player who kicked the ball, Chelski, reds and those teams up there including Leicester last season moaned at the player who should of been in the space the ball landed, not 10 yards away picking his nose.

Our team just do not seem to gel, they have not done so for three years, it's ok being best of mates on and off the pitch that does not make them flow whilst playing.

Another thing that came out of last night is that NBTB and myself are going to Bradford with a fiver each, Looking forward to that trip mate.

1.) 31 Dec 2016 21:55:58
Grumpy. The understanding will come with time. Most of the players are struggling with the system so to also be where they need to be will be a struggle. We need more quality to play alongside lukaku, barkley, gana and miralas. By the way enjoy bradford you may bump into mbokani whilst you're there.



12 Dec 2016 13:19:24
Well what an emotional weekend that was.

Firstly let me start off by offering Degsy an apology. I came very close to questioning his loyalty to the club, and went off on one with him mentioning relegation so early in the season. Both of those things were wrong on my part, The forums are here so each of us can put our views across without fear of being held out to dry because someone else does not agree with them.

Over the decades of loyal support I have given our club I have seen many changes occur. I have seen good managers, poor managers, and absolute waste of oxygen managers, I have also seen our side being feared everywhere as we were that good, I was fortunate to witness top European sides preying not to get us in the draw and every English top flight team dreading the fixture where they met us. I witnessed the RS getting us banned from Europe.

There was times when every single game we played home or away was a complete sell out. I have watched world class players turn out for us, mediocre players and players who couldn't kick a ball if their life depended on it, players who would run the length of the pitch on a "maybe" and others who just turned up for a stroll in the park.

No matter what has happened historically one thing remained constant. We got through it.

It seems these days we are faced with a new monster at the door, we have new gremlins, that if not addressed can cause our club so much damage as to make it unrecognizable.

The biggest problem we face today is our fan-base. Never in all the decades of support have I seen it so bad. The away sides are often louder than we are even when we are winning. I know fans will say things like, it is the managers fault, it is the players fault, it is the stewards fault, it is the ball boys fault, it is the girls making the meat pies fault, blah, blah, blahdy bloomin blah.

Years ago us fans were the twelfth man on the pitch so to speak, we believed in our team even when we were fighting relegation, it was because of us that certain crap players had a good game just when we needed it most, with the team falling apart around us we were the glue that held them together, for good managers, bad managers, good players, bad players we were alway there ready to put the wheels back on the wagon should they fall off.

Now look at us today, we are the teams red card, the way we behave towards some players it's no wonder we get poor performances out of them. Our players go out each week knowing the fan base is ready to crucify them at a moments notice, it's as if we are relieved when they make a mistake.

Until we start believing in our beloved Everton again we will always be in this rut. We need to believe once again, the players WILL pick up on this and eventually restore their own belief in their ability.

Now you know why I'm Grumpy.

1.) 12 Dec 2016 15:40:46
well said.

2.) 12 Dec 2016 16:10:48
Hey mate, that is a great post. And no need to apologise. I know I am as passionate about Everton as the next. I live in Cornwall now yet still get up to the odd game and did 2 Euro away games in Switzerland and France a couple of years ago. I know I go on and on and on about certain subjects. it drives people crazy when I do. but that again is because I passionately believe I know about football. maybe I do and maybe I dont. but I believe it! I have introduced at least 4 people into becoming Evertonians just because of my passion. These are people who either have gone to many games or still go to many games. Of my 3 kids, 2 support Everton with a passion and even my eldest Grandson supports at the age of 7.the only Evertonian in his Devon school and I look forwards to taking him to Goodison Park as soon as he is old enough to understand and feel the emotion. I was fortunate enough to meet the Great Ralph William Dean once. I shook Howard Kendalls hand a few seasons back and said a sincere thank you to him for his life of devotion to something that I did as well. I am allergic to red and nowhere in my life have I ever encouraged red to be used in any way. except Christmas decorations. and that is done begrudgingly. Now to comment a bit further. I once ran my son's team. I had taken over as manager from a guy who had managed for 3 seasons and the team had averaged about 4th in the league. I ran it for 3 seasons and in the 3rd season we were League Champions, Cup winners and also winners of a 6 a side competion in Gloucestershire. Our keeper has since played for: Forest Green (where I became assistant coach) , Swindon Town, Liverpool (I recommended him to Everton and they did not have the decency to reply to my emails until Liverpool made him an offer) , Newport County and now Barnet where he got player of the week for League 2. I only go on about this so you can understand where my passion and dedication to football comes from. I only played ameteur. but played an 80 minutes game with players as young as 16 12 months ago at the age of 58 and could still play now if it was not for the pain afterwards lol! My comment of Everton at the moment is that football is a funny thing. when all is going good, it seems to gather moss and get better. When all is going bad. the same effect takes place. I mentioned the "r" word because 10 games with only 1 win and upcoming fixtures as hard as they come. added to injuries to some of our better players does not bode well. I can see it being 13 or 14 games with only 1 win. The teams below us all seem to be picking up points and if it wasn't for our first 5 games, we would be in big trouble. I just cannot see us putting 4 more wins together. But like I say it can change in an instant. My problem is that we just don't look like a team. Teams below us eg Swansea, West Ham and Sunderland and others actually look like teams. We look like 11 individuals. I don't subscribe to lack of effort comments. I think the players are giving their all, but don't know what to do or are confused or just not capable of doing what the manager wants. That is the crux of my worry. I don't think they are capable. I think the manager needs to change to a different system and/ or sign new players who are capable. Or bring in youth that is capable. End of sermon and apologies for going on and on again! Degsy.

3.) 12 Dec 2016 16:15:40
We have players who are either just not good enough or can't be bothered. This is not something that has suddenly just happened, it's been building for a couple of seasons now. If the players want the fans support then they have to show it on the pitch, they have to at least try, and that isn't happening imo.

4.) 12 Dec 2016 17:25:22
We are not supposed to mention the other fella, but in his quest for only his opinion matters he needed yes men around him, as a consequence he sucked the life out of the Team. Koeman is the man for us and he will get it right but may I ask what part of 'it will take 2 years to sort out' did you/ we not understand.

5.) 12 Dec 2016 17:29:54
Great reply Degsy.

It is apparent you do have a good pedigree regards football and we are fortunate to have your views on this forum.

One favour to ask, Will you shut up about Pienaar lol.

6.) 12 Dec 2016 17:32:24
I agree. it started when RM took over and ignored the age thing and brought in older players for younger ones. But I won't list them for fear of repeating myself or even repeating myself again!

7.) 12 Dec 2016 18:06:32
Pienaar who?

8.) 12 Dec 2016 19:36:11
Edgy where about do you live in Cornwall? I am thinking of buying a place down there, and only really know St Ives. Sorry ends I know this isn't Rightmove, but local knowledge is always handy.

9.) 12 Dec 2016 19:41:40
Billcroc you have hit the nail on the head.

The life blood has indeed been sucked out of the team and the damage is running deep. I think it will be in RK's final year (yr 3) when we will taste Europe again. Win or lose I am 100% behind him and any team he picks, other than that we are all in the same boat like it or lump it.

10.) 12 Dec 2016 20:41:29
St Ives very expensive very very expensive. Better off around St Mawgan, Colombe Major or Minor.

11.) 12 Dec 2016 21:01:18
Cheers Bills, going to come over in the new year (living in France at the min) , and spend a few weeks looking around, will have a look around there.

12.) 12 Dec 2016 21:46:16
I live in Gunnislake which is nearly up in Devon. by Plymouth. It depends what you want. A cheap pretty place on the up but with traditional fishing industry is Newlyn near Penzance. There are other places and it seems the further south west you go the cheaper the property excepting major holiday places. Good luck mate.

{Ed025's Note - liverpool 8 is nice this time of year as well, not much of a fishing village though.. :)

13.) 13 Dec 2016 04:54:15
Thanks guys if I get a place we should meet up have a beer. And talk about past glories like proper old farts. Sorry ed might just pass on your idea mate. 👍.

{Ed025's Note - i love living in the city twoold all that carrot crunching is no good to me mate, dont get me wrong its nice for a week or 2 in summer but then i cant wait to get back to some good old fashioned urban deprivation.. :)




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14 Jan 2017 11:09:47
Thing is whenever we play a side on the coast we will never see him again.



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14 Jan 2017 11:06:27
I think his many moves has been down to his agent. The stalling point on him coming to us is down to the agent. Some of them have far too much influence over players and do not always act with the players best interests at heart.



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11 Jan 2017 13:53:04
Great news



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06 Jan 2017 16:45:23
I do ed025 I do

{Ed025's Note - i cant listen to that jim white grumpy, hes a lecherous old goat who thinks hes gods gift flirting with the birds...when he should know that i am in smokey mo,s on a saturday night...lol..



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06 Jan 2017 16:41:47
Hope it's not any of those " Big Issue " sellers




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16 Jan 2017 15:00:32
Always been a fan of Unsworth but I would not want him as first team manager. His strengths lay in molding players into what the team manager requires. He makes a great bridge to the boss man and his ways.



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16 Jan 2017 14:55:31
Well I very much doubt anyone can have a better day than that MEverton. Congratulations for your new addition and best wishes to the new mum and dad and the New Evertonian.



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15 Jan 2017 10:59:11
what if we were offered 85?



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15 Jan 2017 10:55:37
He followed his head and not his heart. Sadly he was the only one who couldn't see he was going to get screwed.

I feel no pity for him at all not because he left but because he chose to slag us off afterwards. For that reason alone he deserves to find himself in the mess he is in. Sunderland will totally screw up his CV if they go down,



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12 Jan 2017 18:18:00
Now that's what I call a good day out,