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14 Nov 2017 20:29:58
The Everton fans do seem to be more fickle and bigger moaners than many other clubs’ supporters (especially if you read this forum’s posts! ) , but that’s because they believe it’s been a case of too many false dawns while other clubs have stayed at (or come to) the fore.

Likewise, I can appreciate the club feeling badly let down (to put in mildly! ) when previous attempts to inform and involve certain “official” fan-groups led to some “sensitive” conversations being widely released by those groups (at best inadvertently, at worst nigh on maliciously) .

Nevertheless, in my humble opinion, the club should not retreat into a bunker mentality - which only encourages speculation and suspicion amongst the media and fans - but rather embrace the opportunity to really communicate, control the narrative, and engage with the fans - be that through traditional media, social media, the club itself, or supporter and community organisations.

Everton do excellent work in the local community and surely could apply the same professionalism and care to other ares of the club’s activities off the field?
It’ll never be perfect and there’ll always be issues that aren’t liked by different sections of the fanbase, but previous incidents shouldn’t stop the club - especially the board - realising that communication and engagement are vital in modern football.


1.) 14 Nov 2017 22:13:09
Not sure what you want them to divulge Bobby. As far as the Manager's job is concerned what can they do. Unless they are after a Manager who is not working they have to go through proper channels and it would be wrong of them to inform the fan base before those discussions were completed. The stuff in the media is pure speculation and the only thing that is certain at present is that Unsworth is acting Manager.



02 Oct 2017 22:02:26
There are a few (unsubstantiated) reports about Koeman losing the dressing-room and the team not believing in what he's telling them to do.
Be that as it may, it seems that the players just don't trust each other on the pitch and are afraid to be positive and would rather play safe backwards and sideways instead of risking fast forward-going play. Hence the remarks about the lack If confidence and a lack of aggression. As a result, they're nervous and make unforced errors. We need strong leadership and honesty and courage on and off the field.


1.) 03 Oct 2017 21:30:23
Not sure why someone disagreed with that Bobby. Seems pretty obvious to me!



03 Sep 2017 21:36:45
I've read some posts about a "developmental fee" for Ross Barkley being payable in compensation to Everton by whichever other club (Tottenham Hotspur? ) he joins after his Everton contract expires at the end of June 2018 because he had been developed through Everton's academy and been with the club continually (loans excepted) since an early age.
Comparisons were being made to the move of Danny Ings from Burnley to Liverpool.
The key difference is that Barkley will no longer be under 24 (he was born in December 1993) by the time his Everton contract ends and my understanding is that therefore no such fee is required - he would leave for free.


{Ed002's Note - Correct.}



02 Sep 2017 13:21:32
The readers of this website might not be fully aware that posts not only appear under "Everton Rumours" and "Everton Banter", but also under the headings of "Other Posts", "Polls", "Teams" and "Sightings". There's some interesting stuff on those. Perhaps a reminder on the Rumours and Banter pages wouldn't go amiss?


1.) 02 Sep 2017 13:46:28
Still not convinced you're not Cowpat Sid posting under another name Bobby.
Your attention to detail and intuitive posts are so much like Sid's used to be it's eerie.
Please don't take that as an insult, it's meant as a compliment.

2.) 02 Sep 2017 13:57:21
Rhapsody in Blue: OK - if you'd like to call me "Cowpat", that's fine - but don't expect me to dress up or anything kinky - as for languages, I don't do Greek ;-)

3.) 02 Sep 2017 14:11:26
Totally understand and feel the same about not doing Greek :-)

4.) 02 Sep 2017 15:27:39
Ooh you are awful, but I like you ;)



01 Sep 2017 01:18:35
Niasse's move to Crystal Palace reported to have fallen through. What's next for him?


1.) 01 Sep 2017 06:06:24
1st team football as we never got the CF that we have been desperately needing.

2.) 01 Sep 2017 07:30:20
He scored goals for Hull, Disciplinarians such as Koeman though just cannot get their heads around Niasses unorthodox style. We don't know what goes on behind doors or on the training ground, so the end result I is we have to trust in our staff. Does anyone know if he trains with the first Team squad.

3.) 01 Sep 2017 10:16:06
No mate he was with the under 23s before we loaned him to hull last season Koeman will just stick him back there.

4.) 01 Sep 2017 10:35:11
BigD I'm sure he only scored something like 4 in 20 so let's not get too excited.

5.) 01 Sep 2017 12:57:27
Unsworth rates Niasses. Says he has a great attitude works hard and scored a few goals too.

6.) 01 Sep 2017 13:10:35
His style is he isn't a good footballer.

7.) 01 Sep 2017 18:50:09
He played 152 minutes for everton.

8.) 01 Sep 2017 19:32:21
Turkish transfer window closes on the 8th and he seems to have suitors that side.

9.) 01 Sep 2017 22:11:44
Give him a go Rooney can't hold us up for the whole season we have hopefully got plenty of games against half rate teams which he could score if put on a plate.




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11 Dec 2017 04:31:51
Under Koeman and Martinez, our players were being asked to play in a way that they were unsuited and/ or unprepared for - and it soon fell apart. Under Allardyce, it looks like the players know what's expected of them - no complications.


1.) 11 Dec 2017 09:16:16
Be prepared for old school football Bobby, SA stated that we are going to build the defence before we look to other parts of the team. I personally don't have a problem with the 10 men park the bus counter attack game plan as long as we get points out of the game.

2.) 11 Dec 2017 12:27:56
sa90: I agree with you, mate -defend well first, then play the expansive football.



11 Dec 2017 04:25:22
I can't believe fans complaining about us playing for (and getting) a result - albeit a hard-earned unadventurous (to put it mildly! ) draw - at the dark side.
Of course it would have been great to play an open, expansive, toe-to-toe style, but that most likely would have led to another hammering from their formidable attacking players.
At this stage of the season, if some fans would prefer style over substance, well that's their prerogative, but imho we need results and we need the team to gain confidence from those results.
Whether or not under SA we can show creativity and attacking quality on top of defensive solidity and organisation only tine will tell, but I for one am content (for now! ) to concentrate on the improvement in results, player confidence, and team organisation under a coaching staff that has the experience, determination, and knowledge to deal with where we have found ourselves so far this season.


1.) 11 Dec 2017 09:31:13
Big Sam has a reputation for negative football and some fans seem to have latched onto this. But any top manager knows you start a game off with the intention of keeping a clean sheet and build from there. Remember that Allardyce had Jay Jay Ocotcha and Ivan Campo in his team at Bolton. how we could do with either of those now. I am expecting him to lay the foundation of a solid defence and build a midfield with some creativity as time goes on. But BobbyC you are rightabout some fans. and would they enjoy watching us playing expansive football in the Championship. because 4 games ago and the preceding 10 or so games. that's where we were headed! Big Sam might not yet have all the answers, but I for one would rather us start building a team and bring in the expansive football at a later date when we have the players.

2.) 11 Dec 2017 12:24:53
degsyp: I agree with you. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, but I want to stay in the PL above all else.



11 Dec 2017 04:01:02
All this talk about penalty decisions being "soft" or "harsh" is so bogus.
As SA said, it's either a penalty or it isn't a penalty.
The debate really should be about whether or not the referee made a correct decision. That's why I would like the match officials to use instant video reviews, although I accept even that wouldn't guarantee 100% accuracy for all situations.


{Ed001's Note - it would be pointless, even now after everyone has seen a hundred reviews there is an argument about it, so what chance would officials have? People just need to accept referee's decisions, even when wrong, so long as the decisions are honestly made it's just a case of sucking it up and moving on when it goes against you.}

1.) 11 Dec 2017 04:36:27
Ed001 - agree about accepting decisions, but anything that helps the referee’s decision-making process sounds good to me.

2.) 11 Dec 2017 09:53:40
Ed your spot on decisions are made during the match unless it blatant cheating there is no recourse to change anything. the referee's decision is final

I do agree that technology would aid the decision making process but it would be a really difficult to get the correct process in place. If you look at rugby for example the game has changed from an interpretive style to being played to the letter of the law. Football is not really conducive to video scrutiny in real time. There is far to much cheating by the players, for a start corners and attacking free kicks would be an absolute nightmare to manage as well as aerial contests. The game would have to change significantly. On the other hand watching some managers post match interviews would be highly entertaining after they have seen a match winning goal being cancelled due to a review that finds foul play committed in the build up.



06 Dec 2017 05:02:16
What's the story regarding Joe Royle leaving Everton?




02 Dec 2017 18:09:48
A win and a clean sheet. Feels good, doesn't it?





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30 Nov 2017 02:44:53
geoffjohno - managers like Martinez, Koeman, etc., must love us - even if they fail, they get a hefty payoff, so Allardyce is in a win-win situation financially speaking whether he’s here for just this season or another one or two.




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28 Nov 2017 20:18:50
Ed002 - thanks - much appreciated.




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28 Nov 2017 19:51:29
Ed002 - thanks for your reply. That being the case, why isn’t Hoddle in the running for the Everton - or any other Premier League club’s - managerial position these days?


{Ed002's Note - I wish knew the answer. I will ask him next time I run in to him, but I don’t see him often. I agree that he doesn’t seem to get considered as much as he should.}



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28 Nov 2017 19:01:32
Ed025 - so you’d get rid of every former Everton player currently on the staff? You’d bin Unsworth, Ebbrell, Ferguson, Royle, the U23 and Academy coaches (Jeffers, etc. ) , the club ambassadors (Snodin, Stuart, etc. ) ? Do you think they’re ALL undeserving of a role with the club and it’s just a blatant case of “jobs for the boys”?
Food for thought: the three managers who won trophies for Everton during the past 50 years - Catterick, Kendall and Royle - were all former Everton players.


{Ed025's Note - i would keep unsy as he has found his niche with the U23,s bobby, the rest can go for me, catterick, kendall and royle were a different ilk to what is at the club at the moment, joe can have an ambassadorial role i suppose but none of the others near the fist team squad, they are all very comfortable in fact too much so and we need a new beginning, thats just my view of course mate and i dont expect a lot to agree, but there is "something rotten in the city of denmark" as they say and its infected this club to the point where the whole set up needs ripping up and starting again..



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28 Nov 2017 19:12:41
Ed002 - after Koeman was dismissed, I recall you suggesting that Hoddle would be a good choice for manager/ head-coach at Everton.
Firstly, am I recalling that correctly?
Secondly, if so, do you still take that view and could that appointment really work given Everton’s present situation and he’s been out of Premier League management for a while and he might bring some “historical baggage or controversy” with him?


{Ed002's Note - Hoddle is an excellent coach, a nice guy and a strong character.}




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11 Dec 2017 12:27:56
sa90: I agree with you, mate -defend well first, then play the expansive football.




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11 Dec 2017 12:24:53
degsyp: I agree with you. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, but I want to stay in the PL above all else.




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11 Dec 2017 04:39:03
Ed001: the only statistic that really matters is the 1-1 result ;-)


{Ed001's Note - exactly.}



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11 Dec 2017 04:36:27
Ed001 - agree about accepting decisions, but anything that helps the referee’s decision-making process sounds good to me.




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30 Nov 2017 05:08:42
Swan - I agree about Mirallas, but we’d need a replacement for Joel first.