27 Jun 2021 08:25:25
Not been on here for a while and I'm absolutely shocked at how much support Rafa has on here from fellow blues.

Let me point out I will back whoever is in charge 100% as it's my team. I have personally never booed or thrown abuse at a manager or player while they have worn blue (and I saw the Mike Walker and Walter Smith eras) but come on why does anyone want him?

Forget he is an ex red and that he called us a small club - his tactics are awful and in the same mould as fat Sam in my opinion. This guy has not won anything for 10 years and yet he's still held in high regard. 'Everton's the team that play beautiful football' - not any more we don't. What is our motto again - forget it!

I really don't get the appointment at all, a couple of defeats and it will be toxic at the old lady and not somewhere I want to take my son.

Sorry for the rant but I just don't get it and I've never felt so detached from my club as I do right now. I really hope that I'm totally wrong anout this and that he's a massive success but I seriously can't see it.

UTFT.

{Ed025's Note - quite a few feel the same jo but the club has made their decision and will live or die by it, i think they are looking for stability and a road to the top six in the next few years and i think rafa can bring that, but he will be judged on results and if thats not forthcoming im sure he will be the next one out the door mate..

1.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 08:59:18
But why him Ed? Do you seriously think he’ll be here for more than a season? Rafa won’t have the luxury of building a team over a few seasons, the fan base will want instant success - I suspect a minimum for next season would be top 7 and / or a cup final otherwise he will be gone.

We have Marcel Brands and the model of a director of football should mean if a manager moves on, the players, style of play etc suit the next manager meaning there should be consistency.

I have not yet renewed my season ticket but I definitely will be doing as I’ve missed it so much this last 18 months, but I can honestly say I’m dreading it already.

{Ed025's Note - i must admit he was not my first choice either jo, but the powers that be obviously have their reasons and im sure one of them would be stability which i do think he brings to the table, he has never really had big money to spend at previous clubs so maybe he will surprise us?
Whatever happens its up to us to give him the benefit of the doubt and support him and the club mate because what else can we do..

2.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 09:03:21
I think you summed it up perfectly TBJ

Sorry Ed but I just don't see how signing Benitez gives us any stability. If he starts poorly it will be more toxic than Chernobyl.

I will support the team 100% and will happily eat humble pie by the bucket load if he proves me wrong but sadly I hold out very little faith that its going to happen.

Stability? We're trying to drive a crane over a minefield.

{Ed025's Note - hes stoic and determined bw i will say for him, there will be no easy rides for the players i can assure you, maybe hes just what we need as the discipline at the club has been very poor and i for one will give him a chance mate..

3.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 09:58:54
Truthfully as a supporter I've little option weather I agree with it or not, sure I could spend all day whinging about it on here but besides suddenly waking up an oil billionaire, and buying the club, I have to support everton and there desicions as I have done through thick and thin for the last 50 years.

If any one of the small minority represented on here or the banner hangers where to run this club, there would still be a section of unhappy fans.

Let the owner own, the manager manage, the players play, and our bit well we support.

{Ed025's Note - spot on wolf, its hobsons choice mate and i cant ever remember any board asking for supporters views on who they appoint..

4.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 10:38:32
I agree with the point made above in a couple of posts - if things don’t go well, it will turn very toxic very quickly!

{Ed025's Note - lets just hope it doesn,t pierre, a few good signings and a decent start and the world will be put to rights again mate...thats what im hoping anyway..

5.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 10:58:55
The points you're making about how toxic it will become very quickly if benitez doesn't work a miracle (that 5 others have failed to perform in the last few years) says an awful lot more about our fan base than it does about Benitez ability unfortunately. It's really an incredibly embarrassing situation that when we're thinking about a really important managerial appointment we're distracted from thinking about their credentials by concerns over how nasty, and how quickly, our fans will get.

{Ed025's Note - sadly your right davey mate..

6.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 11:56:27
ToffeeDavey - if you've read any of my posts you will see why, from a football sense, I don't think Rafa is the man we should be signing

But, did you not see the reaction of fans throughout the country to the Super League> Not just fans who didn't support the teams looking to join but the 'top 6' own supporters who couldn't believe their owners were so stupid that they believed they could make decisions without considering the reaction of supporters

If you are so foolish to think our board should make the same mistake that's up to you.

7.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 16:49:24
You're 100% correct TD. You talk about a miracle and the OP says he expects top 7 and a cup final. Personally I think it would take a miracle to get that. If we don't get top 7 and a cup final will the fans get on Rafa's back? If they do, that's pathetic. We need stability. Top 7 and good cup runs by year 3 is realistic. Getting rid of the crap players will not be done in one window more like 3 or 4.

8.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 01:37:39
You were probably saying that FatChris when Martinez joined, when Silva joined, when Koeman joined, when Carlo joined

How many more 2-3 years do we have to waste before we see we keep making these mistakes? What's stability? We've been a mid table side flirting with relegation or Europe for too long

The only thing that's stable is that we keep getting it wrong.

9.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 09:52:14
I'm a bit bemused BW. Are you saying you want a manager that'd guarantee instant success? Not sure that man exists. During the season you were very critical of me for being unhappy with the football and what I perceived to be a lack of progress as you were very happy with the 'progress' being made under ancelotti? Top 7 and a good cup run as Chris says would be steady progress from last season but now that's not good enough for you? Get the feeling you were seduced by Ancelottis name and reputation to be honest.

10.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 11:45:21
You know TD maybe I was a bit seduced by CA and thought he deserved to grow on his the progress he had made with the signings of Allan, Doucoure, Godfrey, James, Olsen and Nkounkou. Maybe I was totally off the rails with by thinking add another couple of first team signings and strengthen the squad and we could be challenging for Europe which we only just missed out on last season or bring a domestic trophy to the club

Maybe though you should start reading the posts fully before commenting. Chris said top 7 or a cup next year would be a miracle in his opinion and it is more realistic to look at top 7 and GOOD (not winning) cup runs by year 3.

Maybe you think it is OK every time we get a new manager we go back to GO again and say let's wait another 3 years or until we get rid of or lose the next manager and start the cycle again. I think we should at least build on whatever foundations that have been left and move on from there not start all over again

I know there is no magic bullet, no guarantee of success but we have to push for it. We are not in the Olympics, We are not in football because it's the taking part that's important. It the winning that's important

It's good to see you back on the site. I'm sorry if I come over a bit confrontational at times. I will try and reign in my impatience but it's hard sometimes. I think we are both passionate and love the club. Long may it continue.