14 Jan 2018 11:55:24
Following on from another post about wo to keep next season. I would say that the only players worth keeping are as follows:
Pickford, Keane, Coleman, Baines, Gueye, Sigurdsson, Bolasie, Rooney, Tosun (can't comment yet) and all of the youngsters who have featured this season (Holgate, Kenny, Davies, Baningime, Lookman, Vlasic, DCL) . The U23s I will reserve judgement on, but certainly based on his performances on loan this season I would include Dowell in this list, as I believe he has a role to play for us next season.

Obviously we can't get rid of about 15 players, so we need to look at who needs to go and who still has a role to play.

For me, first team wise I would be happy to see Schneiderlin (attitude) , Mirallas (attitude) , Besic (injuries) , Martina (crap) , Lennon (sadly, but there are better players in his position) , Niasse (worth cashing in) and one of Jagielka or Williams (age) .

The rest of the players I haven't mentioned fall into the 'meh' category. I wouldn't be that bothered if they went but they could have something to offer (some of them have either shown something decent in the past e. g. McCarthy, others haven't had much of a chance yet e. g. Klaassen, Sandro) .

What does everyone else think?

1.) 14 Jan 2018
14 Jan 2018 13:26:22
Keep:
Pickford
Coleman
Holgate
Jagielka
Kenny
Beningame
Vlasic
Bolasie
Lookman
DCL
Tosun
Sigurdsson
Rooney
Gueye
Davies

Sell:
Williams
Keane
Baines
McCarthy
Schneiderlin
Sandro
Klaassen
Lennon
Niasse
Besic
Mirallas
Martina

Get rid of the crap ones but also get rid of the outhouses who never turn up. I like Lennon but we need better and the rest can go because they are always injured, they are finished or they are garbage. Need a complete change in the squad and I hope Allardyce isn’t the one making them.

{Ed025's Note - but besides that you are happy right?.. :)

2.) 14 Jan 2018
14 Jan 2018 13:31:33
Chuffed ed 😂.

{Ed025's Note - you sound it swan mate..

3.) 14 Jan 2018
14 Jan 2018 14:13:18
Agree with Blue Tommy and Swan.
Even before yesterday's disastrous performance you have to look at the squad and say what needs to be in place by the time Big Sam's contract ends.
As much as bringing the right people in, it's as much as moving the wrong people out.
Agree with their groups, I would presume most supporters would.
The only difference is I think Baines is as good as finished and Rooney is heading that way like an express train.
Everyone can't go at once so over the next 4 transfer windows (length of Sam's contract) , we need to prioritise the most awful to go first and gradually work thru the list.
At the same time we have to integrate the good young players, buy focused and, with better quality than we replace, talented players and hopefully make steps, not leaps to improve.
This window we should get another 3 in, of the right type and in the areas we already have mentioned, and every window look at about another 4 quality with the additional young prospects, like the lad from Charlton.

{Ed025's Note - it looks like a massive rebuilding job to me YG, its not an easy fix and we will have to suck it up for quite a while, sam was not my choice i admit but i honestly cant see any manager doing any better in the short term mate..

4.) 14 Jan 2018
14 Jan 2018 14:47:29
Agree Ed.
Sam wouldn't have been high up on my wishlist too but we weren't in a good position at the time.
To me, this is where Walsh earns his salary. Every club that changes managers frequently ends up with a hotch-potch of a squad.
This is where signing players with the right attitude counts.
I think Walcott comes into that category, Schneiderlin doesn't.
We don't need badge kissers but we need pros who work hard, listen to instruction and give their all.
Niasse is like that, will never be even a good player but you can't criticise him for effort.

5.) 14 Jan 2018
14 Jan 2018 14:49:07
Id keep baines sneiderlin and keane.

{Ed025's Note - none of them for me mate..

6.) 14 Jan 2018
14 Jan 2018 14:49:35
Forget Jags and Rooney, both will be too old and slow by ext season.

{Ed025's Note - or this season TBH..

7.) 15 Jan 2018
15 Jan 2018 08:09:15
Think people are being a bit unfair on Keane. He's young enough to bounce back from this season. Worth keeping for another season.

I stand by what I said before, you can't let too many players go at once because it's difficult to buy quality replacements. For example if you get rid of Baines then we need to buy 2 left backs.

Of the players I've suggested to sell, most of them have replacements already at the club. If we sold Schneiderlin and Besic we have Gana, McCarthy, Davies and Baningime for that position. Mori should come back to take up the squad role if we sell one of the aging centre backs. Martina is so awful we could put a mop at left back and it would be an improvement, so he can be replaced by a youngster (maybe Robinson? ) If Mirallas and Lennon go then we still have Bolasie, Lookman, Vlasic and Dowell (but can add another winger such as Walcott) . Niasse will need to be replaced by a top class striker as I doubt that Tosun is a 20 goal a season man at Premier League level.