14 Jan 2018 09:06:48
I can't believe some of the comments on here. Yes, we have been awful, and yes, we are all hurting. However having a go at every player under the sun doesn't help matters.

Rooney has become the new whipping boy, and what you need to remember is that without his goals we would be in the bottom 3 right now. One post even blamed him for games over Christmas that he didn't even feature in due to illness!

Armchair managers calling for Lookman and others to play. A minute of skill every game doesn't mean he deserves to start every week.

I do think personally we should have paid whatever it took to get Sean Dyche. He looks like the real deal to me. Fonseca and Silva are just a couple in the mould of Martinez, and would probably have sent us down.

Realistically our expectations need to be lowered drastically, as we are dire. Short term, we need to tighten the defence up and get a few shots on target every game (can't believe I actually had to write that) . By the end of season we need to stay up. Moving forward, next seasonwith Sam or a new manager (probably the latter) to stabilise us, get rid of the dead wood and consolidste our position as the 7th best team in the league. Only then can we move forward and look to start pushing for the top 6.

1.) 14 Jan 2018
14 Jan 2018 09:27:18
Or tommy maybe we are all just a bunch of dreamers living in the very distant past we have the worst record home and away against the top 5 we've won one trophy in 32 odd years all the top scorers bag loads of goals against us rush shearer ferdinand lampard Kane maybe we are just like a West ham or west brom there to make up the numbers or maybe we are the glass is half full kind of people who remember how good we were who demand this club be in finals and at the top of the league who spend their hard earned cash every week hoping the glory years will return and who have every right to moan at an underperforming team and manager very long rant over.

2.) 14 Jan 2018
14 Jan 2018 10:35:16
I think there is definitely some element of truth in what you are saying Billy although I think you were a little harsh to call us a West Ham or West Brom as I think overall we have shown a little bit more than them over the last 25 years.

I would say that a lot of this comes down to the age of fans, and what kind of Everton they watched growing up. I'm going to generalise here so I hope nobody takes any individual offence (I am aware that much of what people post comes down to individual attitudes, knowledge of football and whether they've been on the ale or not) .

Some of the oldest posters on here have good views because they have seen it all, good, bad and ugly. They take it in their stride.

Many Posters in their 40's and 50's grew up watching us win titles etc and believe that we should still be doing that now, which is unrealistic.

Young posters on here grew up watching the Moyes era, which while unspectacular was fairly good, we were in and around the top six and had a few good cup runs. They have also unfortunately been brought up believing that money automatically wins you trophies ala Chelsea and Man City, which has made them feel extremely pessimistic about our current predicament.

Aside from the oldest Blues I think that my generation (aged 27-35) have the best perspective. We've seen us good (but not dominant) but also seen us horrendous with the likes of Claus Thomsen and Earl Barrett in the 90s. Therefore we have a realism with a pinch of optimism.

The worst part of this season is that it's the first season in years that we haven't got any excuses (having no money etc) for being so awful. It's just worth putting into perspective.

3.) 14 Jan 2018
14 Jan 2018 11:03:04
Fair point well made tommy I take everyone's view on board as we all know football is about interpretation and opinions.