1.) 11 Dec 2017
11 Dec 2017 21:43:20
Very good read nice to get a view from the other side that isn't all screaming and shouting.

2.) 11 Dec 2017
11 Dec 2017 23:02:09
Yep apart from the penalty statement, i know two wrongs don't make a right, but come on lfc have made an art of diving and getting dodgy pens in past years, taught by past masters in the dark art, been saying this for years, now we play to the same tune and all of a sudden its headline news on lfc forums, what a joke, sterling is only just learning to stand up after the years of coaching he had, if it ws me i would be seeking compo, and stevie g,? don't even get me started.

3.) 12 Dec 2017
11 Dec 2017 22:37:18
So you believe in essence that Lovren was only protecting himself, Sorry Ed001 even Carragher said it was a pen and he is more biased than any red.

Protecting himself my Ar*e.

{Ed001's Note - nope, he was putting his hands on him to hold him in place. Carragher is irrelevant, like all in the media he has an agenda and is on the bandwagon that bitches about everything Lovren does. I guess it is nice for an ex-defender like him to feel like he was any better, but I have seen him make far worse mistakes. There was no push, so it is not a pen. Every time two players run together like that the one behind has his hands on the other and no decision is ever given unless the player in front dives to the floor like it was a push, as Calvert-Lewin clearly did. It is a contact sport and you are allowed to touch each other. Go back and watch everytime the Everton backline launch the ball up to Calvert-Lewin and he and the man with him put their hands out to touch each other, are you going to expect a foul to be given each time that happens too? It is just a natural thing to put your hands on them so you know exactly where they are.}

4.) 12 Dec 2017
12 Dec 2017 06:16:55
The way I see it Ed001 is the modern day footballer is coached to go down if and when he feels contact in order to gain an advantage for his side. Is this cheating? You may say it is, but you could also argue that it is clever centre forward play. You are right about contact and only recently, still not as much, we are seeing penalties given for pulls and deliberate pushes and blocks from corners. I do believe it was a penalty and if it was Williams on Solanke, I would still say the same, pundits, fans, managers, can all have an 'opinion' all that matters is the opinion of the man in the middle, the referee. Anyways must go, my mate who's a red is crying on the phone going on about spilt milk or something of the like.

{Ed001's Note - as I said, it is a penalty because the ref decided it was and that is really all that matters. My problem was with Lovren letting the ball reach Calvert-Lewin, everything after that is a problem caused by that mistake. I am not upset about it or anything, you had a game plan and you enacted it well, yes he went down easy but he should never have had the chance to and that is on Liverpool, not Everton. I did say I don't think it is that big a talking point and should be just sucked up and accepted by those that don't think it is a penalty as the decision is down to the ref. The point for me is to look at what went wrong to put the team in that position in the first place, rather than the actual moment itself.}

5.) 12 Dec 2017
12 Dec 2017 08:10:52
Always feel you speak sense Ed001,and again your assessment is a good read.

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate. Those kind of games are the worst to assess though, trying to do it with a clear head and forgetting it is Everton is difficult when your phone is flooded with texts from people sending digs or moaning about things as you type. I would be really interested in a similar article from an Everton perspective, as I really want to know how you would feel if you tried to remove the passion from it. Watching Williams and Martina in an Everton shirt must be sickening!}

6.) 12 Dec 2017
12 Dec 2017 10:07:26
You are right with the Williams and Martina comment, and if I'm honest when I seen the starting 11 for Liverpool I was surprised but also happy. Coutinho movement off the ball would have caused us massive problems and probably would have been the difference needed to break us down. Martina showed Saleh inside far too much and it was inevitable that he was going to get the space on his left foot to have a go.
We came with a gameplan to frustrate Liverpool and hopefully nick one from a set piece or mistake.
It wasn't pretty from us and we never really got out of our own half and to me that will be down to fear of committing too many forward and being hurt on the break.
Would I be happy with this on 6th January in the cup? Defensively yes but I want to see us go and try and open up Liverpool and use pace down the flanks to expose the back 3 that Klopp likes to play, we have pace to do this, will Sam risk that over a more compact defensive minded set up? Only time will tell.

7.) 12 Dec 2017
12 Dec 2017 10:13:55
Pretty honest and good assessment of the game Ed I disagree on a couple of points, about the penalty and I also think we went into the game to try to win but at all costs not to loose rather than not win but its your opinion which is fair enough.

{Ed001's Note - I am sure Sam wanted to win, you are right, but I meant to say his priority first and foremost was to not lose. I probably haven't worded it well, the sites have been busy so I am trying to edit and bang out the article quickly inbetween, which does not lead to the best laid out and well planned article!}

8.) 12 Dec 2017
12 Dec 2017 11:02:32
In the first half calvert lewin touched Lovren with his shoulder amd he hit the floor and got a free kick though?

9.) 12 Dec 2017
12 Dec 2017 11:41:50
Spot on dgold it was exactly the same foul but outside the penalty area, the ref gave that as a free kick so why shouldn't he give ours as a penalty.

10.) 12 Dec 2017
12 Dec 2017 21:05:51
All I can say on the decision of the ref give the pen he should of give the hand on Martina’s chest from salah not saying it was a foul just the same contact in dcl just need consistentmcey from the ref throughout the game. Saying that very happy he gave the pen and Big sams ideas worked because of it we didn’t get beat I just hope he doesn’t do this tactic in every game.