14 Jul 2017 16:53:18
ED025

A Reds fan here in peace.

How on earth can some Everton fans claim that Sig's is being overpriced when the club are asking for the same amount for Barkley, who isn't as good and has less left on his contract?

I'm not bitter at all, I think you have some fantastic youngsters coming through and a brilliant academy, but bar a couple of flashes, Barkley is average for me.

Without looking into it to much, I'm confident that in a team fighting relegation, Sig has better stats than Ross.

If he wasn't a local lad, he'd have gone for a quarter of the price.

If Ross is up for that tag, then Sig is a steal in my eyes.

What do you think Ed?

{Ed025's Note - i tend to agree smp, ross tends to get more leeway with him being a local lad but for me is very inconsistent, in my view if we got sigurdsson and sold ross for a similar fee then i feel it would be a great deal, barkley has a lot of talent but lacks application at times and maybe a move away could be the making of the lad, if he stays or goes does not bother me to be honest but i think he will find it hard to get in the side especiallyl if gylfi does come, i wish the lad no ill will but feel he has been foolishly advised and i dont think koeman is his biggest fan either but what will be will be mate..

1.) 14 Jul 2017
14 Jul 2017 17:19:30
Thanks for the reply Ed.

I'm not for one moment saying Sig is worth £50m, I just think it's not unfair to quote him at the same price you want for barkley.

{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..

2.) 14 Jul 2017
14 Jul 2017 17:34:11
Very fair assessment, particularly for a Red!

Barkley was talked about with the same passion as Rooney when he broke into the first team (if not before) , but whereas Rooney really delivered, Barkley hasn't kicked on. It's frustrating because he seems to have all the talent in the world. Conversely, look at Milner who was never the most naturally gifted, he grafted and has won a number of trophies, not by being an also ran but by being a first team pick. You have to think that if Barkley really put the graft in then he'd have a similar career, given his natural talent.

Just my opinion, but you see less naturally talented players than Barkley have incredibly successful careers, so it can only be down to application.

3.) 14 Jul 2017
14 Jul 2017 18:13:10
Spot on SMP. your absolutely right. it goes both ways, and we can't really complain when we have to swallow the same pill. If the club want him they'll pay what's being asked.

4.) 14 Jul 2017
14 Jul 2017 18:36:29
Ross ain't a kid with "potential" anymore. When he "burst" on the scene, as a bluenose with lots of reds for mates, I really wanted us to have a player that we produced for once ( I know Rooney was but he flew the nest before he made much of an impact) I think Ross is (insert word that might get me banned) sorry! I just do not rate the guy. bad attitude, bit of an idiot, poorly advised, actually just not very good and frankly would not get in the first 11 of any team above us (as of last season) maybe that's why we have had zero offers?

Big joke even in these carazy times with money being what it is. I don't want to be one of those posters that's maybe spent a few hours too long in the sun (pub) but i think anything between 15 and 20 mil is about right. Get him gone. Another for the "where are they now" bargain bin.

5.) 14 Jul 2017
14 Jul 2017 20:08:37
All transfer fees are the result of supply and demand. If someone's willing to pay 50 million for Sigurdsson, then that's what he's worth. Same for Ross.
If someone offered us 30+ million I'd bite their hand off.
No one doubts his ability - but where's the end product?

6.) 14 Jul 2017
14 Jul 2017 21:29:15
The old adage - craft is uslesss without graft!

You can have all the skill and ability on the world, but with application, you may as well have nowt.

7.) 14 Jul 2017
14 Jul 2017 21:48:04
Ross seems to have other influences that are not football related that are dictating his career. He has talent but to be at the very top you need to have the right mentality and commitment.

It's a shame he had a manager instilling the wrong mentality in him and when we got a manager who played to be the best in his position through hard work and application he rejected it and pushed against it.

He needs to move and I'm sorry to say that. Fingers crossed one day he reaches his potential.

For us Gylfi seems a great fit to replace him. Regardless of the price.

{Ed025's Note - its a bit of a shame really john but your right..

8.) 14 Jul 2017
14 Jul 2017 22:27:36
I've been one his biggest believers Ed and I know you've wanted him too to be a success. I suppose it's been highlighted even more with Davies successes this season what the right attitude can get you. Such a shame.

{Ed025's Note - it is john, local lad does good and all that would make me very proud mate, he has shot himself in the foot if you ask me but i suppose only time will tell..