21 Feb 2013 16:04:54
I, for one, am glad that most clubs don't cave in to pressure from supporter groups. Remember way back when there was a campaign (I think it was along the lines of "thirty thousand fans can't be wrong") to get rid of Howard Kendall. Our board stayed committed to their chosen man and within a few years we had championships, cup finals, charity shields, and a European trophy. Since then, IMHO, the European ban and the Agent Johnson era denied us the chance to become one of the clubs with the finances to succeed in the current game. It's only the stewardship of BK and DM that's enabled us to stabilise during the past ten years. Who realistically thinks we could have competed (financially and player recruitment) with ManUtd, Chelsea, and the massive European clubs? For those who want BK and DM out - whoever succeeds them at the helm of our great club - I'd say be careful what you wish for.


1.) 21 Feb 2013
Can't stand the "Kenwright saved us" bunch. The man is killing the club. Sooner you clappers work it out the better.


2.) 21 Feb 2013
While I don't deny Bill has put us on the right track, I don't believe he really wants to attract new investors to the club, he enjoys being chairman of the club he loves too much, its an ego trip for him. {Ed025's Note - i do think he loves the club, and would be happier with an investor, rather than a buyer..


3.) 21 Feb 2013
Great stewardship by BK are you having a laugh mate? We are circa £40m in debt and lose money every year, which in my opinion is not a stable business model. The lack of transfer funds given to moyes and his "24/7" 10 year search for investment/buyer is a joke. We will probably lose either or both baines and fellaini in the summer and possibly lose our manager, add to that an ageing squad and we will be in the rubbish in the not so distant future
Cheeks {Ed025's Note - we are not making a great loss in comparison with most teams cheeks, its a very unstable time in football investment terms..


4.) 21 Feb 2013
Kenwright has had enough takeover offers to sell the club but he has ducked every bid. If he is the biggest fan, he would have sold up by now. If moyes goes then the board will get the blame


5.) 21 Feb 2013
Agree with the poster above, some fans need to wake up i'm fed up of all this small club mentality crap, and another thing keep saying be careful what you wish for when we have gone down the pan with kenwright and his cronies still in charge and have no ground when goodision is deemed unsafe. that's right be careful what you wish for!


6.) 21 Feb 2013
Portsmouth, Leeds utd, Blackburn need I go on as a fan BK would never sell to people like the ones who have killed these clubs the grass is not alway greener! Remember that all you kenwright haters!


7.) 21 Feb 2013
Is this the same BK who can't find investment never mind a buyer in almost 10 years.

Is this the BK who would rather move our famous club to a cow field in Kirby (No disrespect to people who live in Kirby) next to a Tesco, rather than to a football stadium located in a World Heritage Site on one of the most famous and most photographed Water Fronts in the World, a place where cruse ships from all over the world tie up, a place where the most Famous Band on the Planets museum is situated, a place only 2 minutes from the city centre. This according to BK was not worth investing in.

Get real, we need big time investment and we need it now or we will be like Portsmouth and Leeds and a few besides.

Ugly Troll


8.) 21 Feb 2013
21 Feb 2013 21:08:33
Have to agree with the last post we've been standing still for so long for whatever you believe or not kenwright has been the man in charge. He's found no investment. Two failed ground moves fortress sports fund cockup and the parkend development apart from David moyes can someone tell me what he's actually done or is going to do before goodison falls down last time out he said goodison would not make the safety grade to keep playing in the prem so what's next if we keep standing still we will go backwards. Nothing but the best satisfies.


9.) 21 Feb 2013
What's bill done to stabilise club were in worst debt, he's stumbles into mistake after mistake, no advance in stadium move, left behind commercially, awful sponsorships, how many CEOs have left no Agms. without moyes and tv money we'd be in championship. bill kenwright is a blaggard


10.) 22 Feb 2013
I think OP speaks some sense, but I can't stand the 'careful what you wish for' sign off. It's so patronizing and completely disregards that the opposing arguement wasn't thought up without equally careful consideration.


11.) 22 Feb 2013
If nothing changes at thecendvof this season of the next at most, we are in for it an ageing squad is worrying especially with no money or investment coming in, that's why I think Moyes Bainsy and Felli are off, there not daft! Some people need to wake up it's nothing short of a miracle we have done this well for so long, haye to say it what goes up must come down, and we are inclining!


12.) 22 Feb 2013
I am not a Kenwright fan, but my instinct is that he is not in control of the football club other than as a figurehead in his capacity as chairman. He is not a majority shareholder on the board so he is not in control 100% as people think. The people who do hold shares in the club are wealthy money grabbers who see our club as easy money and they are not in a hurry to sell their stake until an offer comes in that meets their valuation (albeit, their valuation is probably unrealistic) hence the stagnation. Just my view.


13.) 22 Feb 2013
Fantastic OP Bill errr I mean Fred :)

However DM looks increasingly like he wants to skidaddle, due mainly we would assume to the lack of cash, funds, dosh well you know money in fact a whole heap of investment which you ain't providing

Look, lesser clubs than us have found people who can bring a positive turnaround of their fortunes
Ten years and some of those ''people'' must have at least inquired about our beloved Everton?

I personally think we have missed the golden opportunities more than once!

Blue247


14.) 22 Feb 2013
Bk wants to sit on his perch as chairman and revel in the glory of the fans at finding 'significant' investment, he's a nice man, but his west enders are not helping the club anymore, and a buy out rather than 'significant investment' seems the more likely scenario its just a question of when he finally caves in on his 'ambitious' dream or kicks the bucket (touch wood, wish death upon nobody) good luck against norwich COYB ag


15.) 22 Feb 2013
22 Feb 2013 17:32:32
What to wish for? A chance one day to actually win something might be a starter!


16.) 22 Feb 2013
Right let's get this straight club is £40m ish in the red we need a new ground let's say another £50m and to allow us to compete at the top end of the EPL we would need another £50m at least so any one interested in us would have to shell out best part of £150m before what the club is worth and you wonder why BK is finding it hard to find a buyer we can't all be given a stadium for free like man city do you really think that mob would of come in for city if they were still at Maine road? all you BK haters should give your heads a wobble


17.) 22 Feb 2013
Great point about ManCity getting the stadium.


18.) 23 Feb 2013
The cost of a stadium to Sheik Mansur, or what ever his name is, is peanuts. He has spent enough money on players wages alone to build two or three stadiums.

It was never about the Stadium it was always about the so called project. I will admit having a Stadium in place was helpful but was not the primary reason he bought City.

If you look at the development around Eastland's that is going on you will see the long term project that is being put in place. The money he is spending there is unbelievable.

One other thing, where do you get 50 mil for a stadium from. Try 300 mil and that will only get you a half decent one.


19.) 23 Feb 2013
The club needs investment we have had a price freeze on are season tickets. if you want more cash going into the club we need to be paying more for tickets not like £20 for adult tickets and £5 for kids tickets for the fa cup. we should be paying more. I hear all the moaning going on but how many on here buy food and stuff in the ground. all that cash goes to the club aswell as the ticket they sell for £1 ermmm how many of you buy them. then there's the everton programme they are not selling many think about it you want cash going into the club put your money were your mouth is and think when you go into the ground on tuesday with your chippy tea and you bottle of pop from the shops and walk past the ticket sellers and programme sellers well that's my rant over with have a great night tuesday and coyb.


20.) 23 Feb 2013
To the last poster what most people are fed up with is the multi-millionnaire shareholders not putting money into the club, granted a lot of us could do a bit more but that lot could do a hell of a lot more


21.) 23 Feb 2013
I often sit at Goodison worrying as much about Neville's tendency to sky a simple pass as whether Everton are a "stable business model". FFS - no wonder people suspect the game's lost its roots. Every blackberry carrying person in a quilted jacket who drives a jeep thinks he's got more business acumen than Kenwright (who's (a) an Evertonian and (b) from the area).


22.) 23 Feb 2013
23 Feb 2013 20:28:27
I want dm out more the bk


23.) 23 Feb 2013
23 Feb 2013 21:13:39
Look this is what I think about moyes he ether comes out and says he's staying or he pack's he's bags the team needs something we have 40 points we our safe for this season so if moyes
does not want to commit to everton let's get an young attacking manager who supports the forwards and makes a substitute when any one with a football brain can see mirraless should have come on sooner


24.) 24 Feb 2013
Sorry been away for a while but I don't think Sunderland or Swansea spent anywhere near £300m on their stadiums and they are cracking!


25.) 24 Feb 2013
Lord Granchester - Robert Earl?

I'm not BKs biggest fan but there people on the board who give nothing.

And then we have Elstone who as CEO seems out of his depth, every time he opens his mouth people cringe {Ed025's Note - no argument from me mate..


26.) 24 Feb 2013
Real point is that, yet again, Everton have failed to move on from previous seasons. Bill Kenwright - and he's said it many many times - wants substantial investment to help Everton achieve more. In turn, David Moyes has said that with substantial investment he could achieve more on the pitch. Until something changes, we're left with the same old same old. It's more likely that David Moyes will leave than fresh investment coming in and maybe that's not such a bad thing for everyone. I'm sure some of our players would be revitalised by a new, less cautious, philosophy. I want Everton to be the team that disproves the theory that money buys success, but at the moment (and the seasons seem to be flashing by all too quickly) we look (at best) like a bottom half side on a strict budget.


27.) 24 Feb 2013
I think people are missing the point, the days of a big fat sugar daddy coming over the hill with buckets full of cash are long gone. And if one does exist why on earth would they want to buy or even invest in everton? More trouble than its worth?


28.) 05 Mar 2013
People making it out that £40 mill debt means we're in trouble? that's a relatively low amout of debt in terms of a Premier League football club in modern football, and as for Everton becoming more in debt, look at Liverpool, their latest figures show they've gone up to £80 odd million debt! We're not in trouble, we are a fairly financially stable club, we just don't have much left over for transfers.
I can also understand some of the arguments such as kenwright not selling up. Whilst I can empathise with his philosophy of "finding the right buyer", it has been a good 10 years of "24/7" searching for a new investor/owner to no avail.