12 Apr 2017 21:35:15
Just a quick question for Ed002. I know you have discussed this at length so I'll keep it as brief as I can. Do you see any situation in which Lukaku stays at Everton this summer? e. g. no-one who he wants to go to wants him or we offer him a £200k per week contract. Just interested to see how far this situation has gone. Apologies if you have already answered this, I didn't see anything below except for Lukaku wanting CL football and Everton not offering the best terms to him.

{Ed002's Note - I think it unlikely but possible. The issue with the contract was not the wages but the value of a termination clause. His agent is figuring out what interest there is and trying to persuade Chelsea he is a viable option and there won't be any further issues. Manchester United are a little stuck until they can sort out the situation with ZI. PSG never really replaced ZI and are interested - but they might just change managers this summer if things don't turn around. Bayern could suddenly appear as an interested party if MM leaves. Atletico could be a player if they win their appeal. Milan has an issue to resolve but could alos stick their head above water. Wolfsburg and Arsenal cannot be discounted as options.}


1.) 13 Apr 2017
13 Apr 2017 06:01:20
Ed2 who do you mean when you say MM from Bayern? Is it Muller? Or is it Mandzukic and you meant Juve. Just a bit confused.
Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Sorry, Lewandowski.}


2.) 13 Apr 2017
13 Apr 2017 10:01:44
Surely some of the above contradicts his 'alleged' need for CL.
Man Utd certainly not a shoe in to be playing in CL next year and at the moment there is as much chance of Everton being CL as there is Arsenal, ie very little.

I personally think he will go but will be on Evertons terms, at a price agreeable to us - not to him, his agent or Didier Drogba.
And if he does he is going to miss out on a very bright future at Goodison / Bramley Moore.

Good player, very good goalscorer - but in my opinion poor atitude.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about Dave - again this obsession with money and all of this nonsense "not to him, his agent or Didier Drogba".}


3.) 13 Apr 2017
13 Apr 2017 12:30:17
Wolfsburg are just above the relegation zone.

What on earth would he go there for?

{Ed002's Note - They are simply having a bad season - they have the money, a desire for the player and a plan for the club going forward.}


4.) 13 Apr 2017
13 Apr 2017 14:15:31
O my god Ed002. As far as I know Everton have no plan to go southwards in the premiership. Wolfsburg are in no better position than us. Load of codswallop where he's going to go. I'd imagine there is very few places he will go to but nonetheless he will leave.

Sadly Everton are viewed inferior to the likes of Wolfsburg no matter how bad a season they have. I see a lot of people say he won't go to Utd because we are in as good a position to get into champions league. This can be viewed as true but sadly people outside Everton view us as inferior and that Utd would be a step up for him.

Possibly it is but I'm very happy with developments at Everton. People seem to still view us as inferior club and won't give us a chance of improving. I believe we will improve. Again sadly imho that will come too late for Lukaku to stay.

Doesn't bother me. Sick of Lukaku talking about his ambition. We have plenty of other players who are willing to devote themselves to Everton and not continually be talking about their own ambitions. Rather achieve their ambitions with and through Everton.

The likes of Coleman who comes across as someone who is totally devoted. Nothing against Lukaku. At this stage imho its better for everyone if he goes. Then everyone can move on. Far too much unnecessary hype in relation to it.

{Ed002's Note - Nobody said he was going to Wolfsburg.}


5.) 13 Apr 2017
13 Apr 2017 14:31:01
Appreciate those points Ed.

But to elaborate on "What on earth would he go there for? ".

Why would he go there as we have money, a desire to keep him and a plan for the club going forward as well e. g. stadium, personnel, sponsorship deals improving, not to mention Europe (nearly) next season. Surely the Bundesliga is seen as a step down as well?

Just doesn't make any sense to me that he would consider going to them.

{Ed002's Note - Nobody has said he is going there. The point is that they have the money to buy him. Everton had their chance at a contract and Everton blew it - not the player, Everton.}


6.) 13 Apr 2017
13 Apr 2017 14:46:24
To be fair Ed 02 Everton also have the money, the desire and a plan for the club to go forward. I think it's highly unlikely a move to Wolfsburg will be taken, but that being said the list of suitors is still long enough to see him leaving in the summer. And as you say, if past issues can be resolved then for me it will be Chelsea should a deal materialise.

{Ed002's Note - Everton do not have the money Wolfburg has, and are not regulars in Europe. Everton have had their chance with the contract and really screwed it up. I think he wants to move on this summer and Everton will get a good fee.}


7.) 13 Apr 2017
13 Apr 2017 17:57:46
He is still on a contract with 2 years remaining - so very much up to the club as to whether he leaves. If the club wanted to put a release clause in then that is their prerogative - particularly after the numerous times Lukaku or anyone else has spoken of his desire to move on.

He sees us as beneath him, just a stepping stone. Well that's fine but he will get off the stepping stone when we want him to - ie at the right price this summer or if not no doubt next summer.

But if not about money and all about his ambition to play CL - then Arsenal, Wolfsburg and even maybe Man Utd are hardly a step upwards at this time.


8.) 13 Apr 2017
13 Apr 2017 20:19:56
I don't really understand the "he'll go on our terms" argument. It seems a little spiteful.

I agree that him having 2 years left to run on his contract will probably put us in a better bargaining position, when it comes to selling him though the question should still be why would the club keep a player who doesn't want to be here. It seems completely counter productive from a squad harmony perspective and if he sulks then the club get no real benefit out of keeping him and his value depreciates.

Surely we are better off selling him when he wants to go, albeit for a good fee. The guy wants to play CL football. We cannot offer that at the moment and it seems like he is tired of waiting around. Fair enough.


9.) 13 Apr 2017
13 Apr 2017 19:43:55
With respect ed. Wolfsburg are backed by Volkswagen? They had to fork out a huge fine over diesel emmisions I think so may not have the money you suggest.
I believe you are more knowledgable than us mere mortals but even you can't know the financial details of every club.
At the end of the day, que se ra, se ra. What will be, will be and we will all move on to moan and praise someone and something else, but it will all revolve around Everton fc and our players, whoever they be.
We coped without Dixie, young, Kendall, lineker, Rooney and we will survive without lukaku too.

{Ed002's Note - Wolfsburg as a club has a far higher value than Everton, and I have no idea why you are embarrassing yourself over this over and over. You can bleat about me all that you want - if you don't want any more input from me on this site until after the summer just say so.}


10.) 13 Apr 2017
13 Apr 2017 21:38:32
I've never said that ed. And I'm not 'bleating' about you as you say. Just stating that Wolfsburg 'owners' lost a lot of money so maybe they wouldn't fancy backing their side with huge sums of money and maybe that's why they are struggling in the league?

Apart from our early exchanges, I've repeatedly said I value your insight and input. But, I can guarantee that a lot of our fans will be pushing your buttons quite tough over the summer, possibly myself included. Just hope you ready for it.

{Ed002's Note - Nobody is talking about backing clubs with owners money - the regulations limit that. I really don't think you understand finances at all. The Everton fans are naive regarding money - the expectation of £200M per window or whatever. Everton can spend what they earn and a little more injected by the owners - and that is it. It also seems that they have been invaded by some real trash who look like they wish to spoil the site for others. I will let it run for a while and then all threads being abused will be deleted.}


11.) 13 Apr 2017
13 Apr 2017 21:42:40
Ed002, your .............

{Ed002's Note - Another piece of retromingent trash removed.}


12.) 14 Apr 2017
14 Apr 2017 12:41:12
I understand some of the finances, but obviously Wolfsburg couldn't buy players if they were owned by Joe bloggs with a fiver in his pocket. I know there is ffp but would it be possible for clubs to get loans either from owners or using owners name (credit rating) as collateral, similar to us and the new stadium and the council and use this to buy players?

Everton always had loans we had to service until Mr moshiri took over. What were they taken out for?

P.s. don't think many of us expect £200 million per window but we hope for more than the £250 we used to see getting spent.


13.) 14 Apr 2017
14 Apr 2017 20:10:15
If the bloke does not want to play for Everton or rather the current situation, Club prospects and contract are not right then he will simply move on and so will the Club. When I worked (my kids/ grown ups have a different viewpoint of my definition) , I was sufficiently endowed with the skills and knowledge in my particular discipline that I was able to pick and choose (up to a point and financial ceiling) . Players have a very short career and of course with the wages and incentives on offer those with the characteristics most in demand can also to some extent pick and choose. Who are we to blame them or demand loyalty.

{Ed025's Note - good point BCT..