22 Feb 2017 20:21:07
Hi Ed I see its being banded about in the rags again about the strong possibility of Wayne Rooney returning to Everton in the summer, what is your take on this mate, if he is going to come and R K seems to favour this, then this would be the last time being 30 that he could contribute to the team cheers GuernseyBlue.

{Ed025's Note - hes not coming GB, to be honest im glad as i think he is well past his sell by date mate..


1.) 22 Feb 2017
22 Feb 2017 20:42:24
Agree with you there mate, GuernseyBlue.


2.) 23 Feb 2017
23 Feb 2017 12:06:15
If Rooney goes to China will Everton get a percentage of the transfare fee? If so does anybody no way the percentage would be?

{Ed002's Note - I would have expected any clauses related to the sell on would have long expired but the original deal was that Everton would get 25% of the fee over and aboe the total amount Manchester United have paid Everton (transfer fee and bonuses). As such, if we assume that total to be around £30M or so and he was sold for £40M, if the clause is still acive Everton would benefit by £2.5M less costs. If however he were sold for £30M, nothing would be due even if the clause is still active.}


3.) 23 Feb 2017
23 Feb 2017 12:33:11
Most supporters have an opinion one way or another about Rooney coming back to Everton. However if he does come back it has to be based on a hard business decision and not on sentiment one way or the other. His return, if he comes, has to benefit Everton financially. The benefits have to out way the cost and not the other way around. I'm glad I don't have to make the decision but my gut feeling is it just will not happen.


4.) 23 Feb 2017
23 Feb 2017 15:02:59
Let him go to China, make loads of money then invest it in the club. Maybe buy a stand at the new stadium, or sponsor the academy? Obviously none of this will actually happen. He's a footballer after all.


5.) 23 Feb 2017
23 Feb 2017 21:24:18
Personally turning down China for me only makes the possibility of a move to Everton in the Summer more likely, I would not dismiss this just yet.


6.) 24 Feb 2017
24 Feb 2017 09:03:22
The lad is still an avid Evertonian but at 31 is this really what/ who RK is looking at to drive us forward, personally I wouldn't have thought so. As for clauses, I was given to understand that Ed002 in particular thought that clauses were either an irrelevance or did not exist.

{Ed002's Note - No, I have never said that.}


7.) 24 Feb 2017
24 Feb 2017 14:09:32
My apologies Ed002 got that one wrong.

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps a reminder about transfer related clauses would be apt. This is a horribly complex area not least because they are written under individual national laws. They cause a great deal of misunderstanding with football supporters and the media alike.

The "buy out" clause is legally binding between a club and a player. The "buy out" is effectively what it says - a means for the player to buy himself out of the contract. As an example, if a player wishes to buy himself out of a contract, he pays the applicable FA (on behalf of the club) the amount of the "buy out" clause effectively becoming a free agent. The problem is that in most cases a player would need to obtain that money from the buying club - and this is fraught with issues regarding "tapping up" and, of course, taxation (as it can be seen as income for the player and would therefore be subject to income tax). There was a test case about the taxation issue in Spain about four years ago. So "buy out" clauses are very rare.

A "release clause" is far more common in that it gives a figure that the club would accept for the sale of a player to another club - but it is not legally binding except where both parties are in the same country (for the sake of argument I should say that Spain and Portugal count as the same country as do England and Wales) for legal purposes. These are normally unreasonably high figures (Messi at Barcelona for example) introduced to act as a deterrent for hostile bids - and even then the club could easily block a move. However, if a club does agree to match a release clause then the selling club would be obliged to ask the player if he is interested - there is no obligation on the player to make a move. For interested clubs outside of the country the selling club may use it as a guide but are under obligation to accept a bid.

There is then the becoming popular "termination clause" which is binding between the player and the club and if met would see an offer from anywhere accepted and the player given the opportunity to make a call on a move. This overcomes the issues associated with "buy out" clauses as the money would be paid by one club to another.}


8.) 26 Feb 2017
26 Feb 2017 14:17:37
Thank you, well put and somewhat enlightening.