24 Aug 2016 03:45:31
ed. Is kone from sunderland, now dead in the water, or do you think the club could make it happen.
when one of our players wants out, they always seem able to force the issue, under contract or not.

{Ed025's Note - thats not strictly true JCW lukaku now and stones last year were told they had to stay, on kone it does look like he will stay at sunderland but dont rule out a last minute deal mate..


1.) 24 Aug 2016
24 Aug 2016 07:20:15
Could just be Moyes playing the game, states he is going nowhere while he frantically searches for signings then let's him go
Think back to Lescott, Moyes tried keeping him, he wanted to go and only played at 50% and was then let go to Man City with Kone and his sudden bad back he could well be off.
But then I could have it completely wrong.


2.) 24 Aug 2016
24 Aug 2016 08:01:00
True Southern Toffee, but do we want that type of attitude at our club? If he's refusing to play until he gets his move, that's a bit worrying to me.


3.) 24 Aug 2016
24 Aug 2016 08:39:49
Sunderland are as much to blame. If they offered him the contract they promised to in the first place he more than likely would not of looked for a move.

Quality addition imho. Think he would be happy here. I do feel for Sunderland supporters but Moyes is obviously playing the game imo. He would be taking a chance holding on to him after the transfer window and risk getting half the price he would get now if things continue in a soar note with the player.


4.) 24 Aug 2016
24 Aug 2016 09:28:46
Nbtb, I originally thought that, but haven't they just offered him that contract and he turned it down?

Saying that, we don't really know what's gone on so if we do get him, I'll reserve judgment and, like everyone, give him my support.


5.) 24 Aug 2016
24 Aug 2016 09:43:17
Moyes wants Jagielka in the deal? and that's the hold up?


6.) 24 Aug 2016
24 Aug 2016 11:09:42
I think kone will move at the last Minit . Moyes will be looking for replacements now. i think Moyes learnt his lesson with the lescot situation at Everton.


7.) 24 Aug 2016
24 Aug 2016 11:19:30
Yes copper but its the way they went about it. Thought they were going to wait until September 1st. Then offered him a contract. Its all very confusing really.

Stig you could be right with the hold up. Jags or McCarthy even may be wanted by Sunderland.


8.) 24 Aug 2016
24 Aug 2016 13:35:44
Moyes's comments about relegation and not attracting players are a double-edged sword.
He might be goading the club into spending big to preserve their Premier League place.
On the other hand - strange though it might seem - the club might cut spending in order to prepare for relegation and loss of telly money, etc.
Plus there's the usual Moyes "knife to a gunfight" excuses as to why his team don't always do well.


9.) 24 Aug 2016
24 Aug 2016 17:03:30
The problem with Kones proposed new contract from Sunderland was that it was proposed by the CEO who has now left the club along with big sam. This meant the new deal went out the door with the old and when the new came in they were in the process of squad assessment thus his contract offer was pushed to the fringes for a while which Kone took exception to.


10.) 24 Aug 2016
24 Aug 2016 17:45:07
Yep exactly FTM! So I can't see Kone doing much wrong. Yes there is argument for both sides. The terms have changed from the arrangement he had made when joining club. Does that make him unreasonable to look for a move? It works both ways imho.

I don't think he's being unreasonable but I bet there are plenty of Sunderland fans who think he is.