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15 Feb 2017 23:24:18

Not exactly Everton related more a case of the usual media linking players to other clubs for champions league experience.

So to my point, Arsenal have qualified for the knockout stages again, yet are being outclassed and embarrassed against Bayern Munich, a team who finished second in their group.

I want to watch my beloved Everton play top class European games but I don\'t want to watch us be embarrassed, don\'t get me wrong I\'m not knocking Arsenal as such, I am just stating that if we want to succeed by being champions league qualifiers then we need to have a squad capable of champions league quality, which, may take a good few seasons.

Tottenham qualified but didn\'t do well, City have spent millions yet still haven\'t competed, so maybe a few seasons Europa wouldn\'t do us any harm to get us the experience to actually compete if and when we qualify for the Champions League.

I want my club to compete at the top table, not just be a number in the draw, we are on the right path to building this future and I hope it\'s for the long term not just for the finances it brings ala Arsenal.

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15 Feb 2017 23:50:11

We are a long way off being a top European club. It will take many years. But we are going in the right direction. something that had stopped the last 3 years.

16 Feb 2017 08:53:10

bluegray - I get where you\'re coming from, but you have to start somewhere. No one is going to come fresh into the Champions League and win it - no matter how many seasons Europa League football they have played. The jump in quality to the very top is just huge.

Take Spurs as the example you brought up. They are perennial qualifiers for Europa League and have a number of years experience in that competition, yet they didn\'t do well this season in the Champions League.

But, even though they really struggled, I bet their team is significantly stronger as a result. They would have learned more from playing in the group stage this season than 2 seasons of Europa (not that I\'m knocking Europa - I just think there\'s a massive jump up to the top 16 in Champions League) . I think any team would improve more from a painful night away to Bayern than they would a comfortable night playing someone more at their level - and so I would prefer that.

Saying that I think we\'re currently short of Europa standards - we\'d do well to get beyond group stages based on where we are today. So if we get into Europa we\'ll develop and learn a huge amount from it. As degsy says - we are many many years from being a top European club again, but you only get better by playing teams better than you.

16 Feb 2017 09:59:59

Would you say Arsenal are a top European club though Degsy, me personally I see them as the weak link in the so called top 4.

16 Feb 2017 10:33:37

To start qualifying and get beat is one thing. But Arsenal have been there longer than most. It is indeed all they ever harp on about. For them it\'s very embarrassing but for us if we were to start qualifying then no great deal.

16 Feb 2017 14:00:33

nobody is going to escape relegation then the next season win the premier league then the year after battle relegation? this is football strange things happen!

16 Feb 2017 15:57:36
Brilliant news for all Evertonians. Clattenburg, I will even pack your bags mate.

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13 Feb 2017 11:47:10
Just been thinking. How good would Rom be if he had kanchelskis and lompar feeding him crossed? Wow.

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11 Feb 2017 21:47:16
This isn't Everton or barely premier league related, but how why is everyone reporting on spanish football so Barcelona biased? I really like Real Madrid but Barcelona and their corrupt staff and players seem to be able to do no wrong! In my opinion Ronaldo the best player on the planet as he hasn't had 1 club and his national team built around him, he has gone out of his comfort zone twice. Sorry rant over, what do you guys think?

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12 Feb 2017 15:11:44
Would rather watch Messi than the poser on the wing.

10 Feb 2017 18:34:28
Watford say they want cleverly full time, for gods sake, get the deal done, before they realize just how crap he is, the price agreed is 4m, that's 5m more than he's worth.

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12 Feb 2017 11:26:28
I thought the buy out was £10m JCW. He's better than people make him out to be imho.

12 Feb 2017 15:13:02
Look we gave Martinez 10m, surely we can give Watford 4?

10 Feb 2017 11:07:13
I think they must be based around Knaresborough. The coach route starts there and goes via Wetherby and Leeds. Club is known as Harrogate Toffees

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05 Feb 2017 12:13:38
See martinez on goals on sunday . Still deluded!

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04 Feb 2017 15:02:02
31 seconds. Get in there Lukaku.

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03 Feb 2017 21:34:31
Bit of a sidestep from the footy but 1 for fellow blues does anyone on here understand women? Just split from my fiancee as she decided I care more for everton than her lol everton were my life before her and she wanted me to give up my season ticket to spend more time with her am I mad but no chance even if we were still in the martinez walker or Smith years I wouldn't but when we're on the cusp of what I think could be the most exciting years I have been able to witness no chance I've been a season ticket holder 10 years not origionally a scouser moved here to get the season ticket I would kill to see us lift a trophy anything I don't care the only trophy I've seen us pick up live was the peace cup thing when we beat everton chillie in that prevents season game is she mad lol.

{Ed025's Note - dont even try to understand women james, they teach them to moan at school mate and derive pleasure from stopping a man enjoying himself mate.. :)

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03 Feb 2017 21:51:29
True lol.

01 Feb 2017 15:13:45
Just my opinion folks, But I ask does anybody else find it cringeworthy that our manager is on Twitter. His latest tweet it's game day hahaha. I would rather him do the talking in the press conference and leave social media to us fans, he tweets after games as well ughhhh hahaha maybe there is just something wrong me but I would rather he didn't tweet about Everton.

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02 Feb 2017 12:21:43
Stef, people been moaning for years that management don't communicate with fans. Personally I don't go on Twitter, don't really understand all this new fangled technology mate. But if that's how Rom wants to communicate with fans, then fine by me.


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