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27 Jul 2017 12:24:10
What is the chances of Everton getting Giroud? I read Dortmund wanted him as well. Are Arsenal definitely going to let him go?

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26 Jul 2017 11:44:05
Flying into Liverpool next week to show the current missus where I was born. Sadly couldn't make tomorrow's game.
Plan to go to Finch Farm, Goodison and Bellfield. I know there's nothing there now but that's where I always went as a kid, so standing in the road describing how me and me mates used to wait for those blue gates to open just to see who came out. Will be worth it.

Then going to have a pint in the Bramley Moor pub, and dream of the future. Oh and I've got to take her on the ferry (not literally I might add) .
Then meet the relatives for a big piss up in the city. Can't wait.

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24 Jul 2017 21:01:00
£45m rejected. Time to walk away?

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25 Jul 2017 21:57:38
Imho Aches and Baines it totally is.

23 Jul 2017 22:12:16
What! The season hasn't even started yet and people are worrying about the manager leaving? In two years time! Come on guys enjoy the moment now. If in the future Ron does go to the Catalan boys, then that will mean we have had a lot of success. So come on, what will be will be, so let's all have a good time while it lasts.
Pessimists go sit in the corner and grumble amongst yourselves. 🙏✌️⚽️.

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20 Jul 2017 20:09:30
Fk ruzemberiki not brann.

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19 Jul 2017 21:50:16
Lukaku reckons that Jose has already made him a better player. He now knows he had to work hard to improve. Unless I'm going senile prematurely, I really can't imagine how he didn't grasp all that under Ronald Koeman. I guess the guy is full of .

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20 Jul 2017 08:12:57
in the past, move on, he done well for us let it go now.

19 Jul 2017 18:52:25
I really can't believe some of the tripe I'm reading on here regarding Ross Barclay. The fact is that nobody actually knows what he's asking for, or indeed what the club is asking for. Nobody knows anything for a fact, so why the abuse? Some of the abuse written here and other places is disgusting.

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16 Jul 2017 14:50:26
If we are after a striker who will only play a certain amount of games I think rent would be a good choice seems like he will be going for a small fee and better than what we've had to come off the bench in recent times so he's a improvement on last season. But I really do hope we go and get dembele another left sided centre back and a winger with abit of pace about him.

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17 Jul 2017 13:40:34
"Rent"? Looks like the automatic text correction didn't recognise "Remy" - blasted technology!

14 Jul 2017 21:30:33
Could someone smarter than me do the math on what we've spent balanced by what we've sold. Only asking as we have currently brought in six or seven I think (can't keep up) . And sold three or four, and all I hear is we're spending a fortune. So just thought it might be interesting to see.
Thank you.

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14 Jul 2017 22:15:17
We've currently sold players to the value of 95 million, excluding undeclosed fees.

We have spent 93 million, so we have a net spend of - 2 mil ( one of the lowest in the league)

15 Jul 2017 09:45:43
Thank you Martywil.

15 Jul 2017 12:26:03
I'm sure one of the Eds could explain this better, but the nett spent on transfers is surely much more complex than simply adding up our reported incoming transfer fees against our reported outgoing transfer fees.
To begin with, the reported fee would probably be paid as a series of instalments (a schedule of payments) over an agreed period. No doubt, the rules for this are different depending on the club's involved and who their regulators are. For example, can the fee be paid over the duration of the contract or must it be fully paid in a shorter timeframe?
As for loan transfers, there could be a loan fee involved and there might be a plan to split which club pays what proportion of the player’s wages.
Any performance related “add-ons” would have to be agreed, scheduled, and planned into the club’s future financial plans.
Then, there are various fees (agents, etc. ) - and possibly taxes - to consider.
Insurance coverage, getting work permits, and other legal issues have to be addressed.
The player’s remuneration - wages, bonuses, etc. - have to be factored into the club’s ongoing income plans. Then there are image rights, commercial appearances, sponsorship deals to be agreed upon.
The actual funding of the expenditure - whether out of loans, overdrafts, cash reserves, or whatever - would have to be agreed with banks, etc., and the servicing (paying interest, etc. ) of these would have to be agreed. If the expenditure is in non-Sterling currencies, then the foreign exchange aspects would have to be handled.
It's no wonder that even the most apparently straightforward of transfer deals still take time to get signed, sealed and delivered AND it’s not just a simple arithmetic question of simply the club taking huge wads of cash from or putting cash into a massive “war chest” that sits in Goodison Park’s boardroom.
However, it is great fun for us fans to speculate and offer our opinions on how much the club pays for - or gets for - certain players.

{Ed002's Note - It might be an apt time to explain again about the cost of transfers (excluding wages). What is paid by the buying club would typically include:
(a) Transfer fee - the big number.
(b) Any levy applied by the local FA – 5% for the EPL.
(c) Tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(d) Agent fees – this may be to one or more agents (as an example, Liverpool have spent £40M plus VAT on agent fees over the past three years leading to this window).
(e) Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(f) Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches (what do you mean you have a super agent?) .
(g) Tax due on the Intermediary fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(h) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered).
(i) Legal fees.
(j) VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable.
(k) Moving/relocation costs for the player.
(l) VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable.
(m) Paying up insurance costs to the selling club (sometimes waived).

What is paid by the selling club would typically include:
(a) If the player is under 24 and moving between different football associations, a Solidarity contribution paid to his previous clubs responsible for his training - this is 5% of the transfer fee received (apportioned 5% of the contribution for each year from the season of his 12th birthday to the season of his 15th birthday and 10% of the contribution for each season from his 16th to 23rd birthdays).
(b) If the player moves to a higher category club (all clubs being categorised 1 to 4) then Training Compensation is due for the period of age 12 to 21. Compensation is due to all clubs when the player turns from amateur to professional and thereafter only when he moves from his final training club to another club. The initial training compensation is levied at the training costs associated with Category 4 clubs. The subsequent figure is agreed between the sides or tribuneral if necessary.
(c) Any monies owed to the player if he did not request a transfer – again this is 5% of the transfer fee received.
(d) Any monies owed to the player in terms of his contract (typically outstanding owed wages (not future wages) and bonuses).
(e) Any money contractually due to a previous club as the result of a sell-on clause.

After that you can consider the on going cost of wages, insurance, bonuses etc..}

15 Jul 2017 13:05:37
Ed002: that's great as always - thanks very much for your information.

15 Jul 2017 13:16:13
Very informative, thanks Ed.

Given that all clubs and all transfers are subject to the same rules and maths, I do believe using a basic net spend, still gives an indication of overall commitment strengthening the squad or reveals if a club is simply selling off valuable assets.

I'm certain we are finished spending yet!

{Ed002's Note - No it doesn't. If a club has a player who is valued at far more than a player at another club then that will not show any more or less commitment when the player is sold - it will simply see more money coming in.}

15 Jul 2017 14:22:18
I understand that, but depending I. What the club then decideds to do with the revenue shows its intent on either building by spending more money, or consolidating and bakancejng the books.

13 Jul 2017 19:03:18
my Liverpool mate told me today that his wife told him sex was much better on holiday. he said he was gutted he said that was not the postcard he wanted. from tanzania.

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