Everton Rumours Archive August 07 2013

 

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07 Aug 2013 23:04:01
No bid. Same story as a couple of months ago. It's just the papers and sh*t Journo's re-running the same old cr*p.

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News Now drivel site, rather read the Beano. (Wavertree Blue)

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07 Aug 2013 21:14:31
Rooney/fellaini swap anyone? If fellaini does end up leaving? The beast

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I was thinking the same earlier, would give us that 20 goals we need

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Yep, I would. only if utd pay his wages tho

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07 Aug 2013 21:01:01
Fellaini isn't going to utd. He wants to stay at Everton. I't's the quality around him he wants improved to take the pressure off. Markyg

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07 Aug 2013 20:45:09
Capoue in Spurs talks, Dembele or Sigurdson anyone?

Mike

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Gylfi 10m.

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Dembele would walk into any side and is a key player at spurs no chance. Sigurdsson started most games second half of season an showed good form also doubt it

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07 Aug 2013 20:44:44
If Barkley is the future of the Everton/england midfield, does anyone else think its strange that moyes hasn't put a cheeky bid in for him? Blue Lee

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Pretty sure Moyes wasn't a massive fan of his attitude.

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Barkley doesn't like him apparently

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07 Aug 2013 22:31:34
According to the Guardian Moyes is preparing a derisory £30m offer for Baines and Fellaini. Cheeky ****er's lost his marbles or is intent on taking the piss!

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07 Aug 2013 22:29:24
We are set to offer ajax £2.5 million + John Heitinga for centre back Toby Alderweireld

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07 Aug 2013 21:32:42
Kristof Terreur a Belgian jurno and sen lear (spelling) alderwield's agent see 100% felli is going even stating which position he is going to play he also says ever Lyon have been watching Toby for a while and have spoke to to his agent but no bids and everton interest Toby

Thanks
Wasy

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07 Aug 2013 20:09:01
Anyone know what the supposed 'row' between Martinez and Deulofeu is about? Reckon the lad has talent, but hope he can be grounded enough to see it as a learning experience at Everton. {Ed025's Note - dont believe the press..

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I don't fancy him either but then again I thought Gibson was going to be crap but he proved a bargain. With a run of games in his best position and the shedding of a few pounds he could fulfil his undoubted potential. I'd prefer Hernandez though :).

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There was no row, del boy was out of position a few times in the game nd RM was shouting on the ptch to let him know he was out of position, that was it

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07 Aug 2013 19:24:25
Anderson is a load of s***!
thought I'd say that just in case you all had forgotten {Ed025's Note - i rate him..

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I rate him, he was an excellent player at Porto, never seemed to fit in with sir whiskey nose's style of play, I think Robbie could get the best out of the lad as he seems to be doing with Naismith.

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I agree with the poster, were would he fit in whose place would he take 7 years and never cemented a place in unt side tells its own story don't rate him or nani they have gone backwards while ronaldo as improved every year. only carrick as improved at unt. we don't want there castoffs. i'd take hernandez wallbeck can't think of any others shows the job moyes has. never rated moyes not saying this because he has left used money excuse for 11 years, over to you david no excuses now laudrope martinez several others won things without money aiways new we had a weak manager when he would play 1 up front against the likes of qpr who hadnt won a game when portsmith won the fa cup oldham fans were laughing at us playing a weakened side. I am pleased he's gone and I don't give him 18 months at unt tom efc

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07 Aug 2013 18:19:50
Hi ed, I see that Emenike is for sale, would they not think he would be a good buy. He's a big strong lad with bags of pace. Was a nightmare for Celtic in last year's CL. Lastly ed, I see Flamini is a free agent a good midfielder going cheap. {Ed025's Note - i happen to rate flamini, emenike has gone to fenebache..

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07 Aug 2013 18:01:45
Ed, if we sold Felli, do you reckon RM could use the "we haven't got much money" trick to prise Messi away from Barca, or if that fails, Ronaldo from Madrid? {Ed025's Note - in a word keith...no..

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I know Ed. :D

I was having a laugh (I'm not sure if you knew that) because I read so many silly questions on here I thought I'd join in. {Ed025's Note - i did know keith, i was yanking your chain mate.. :)

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07 Aug 2013 17:20:25
Fellaini to UTD absolutely everywhere, we all saw it coming didn't we? But where do we go from here? RM first summer you'd hope he would be given all the money! Personally I would love to see Anderson come the other way and take up Osmans role, 6 years younger and got talent too! As for the other £20+m, maybe a CB, CM and ST? Winger not priority IMHO, what do we think blues?

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I agree with you. But maybe bring in Moses as he can operate as a striker or a winger, and then a CB and a CM. Alderwield and McCarthy for me. Great talents with plenty of years ahead of them. McCarthy is overpriced, but I think 15m would be a healthy comprimise on both sides.

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Yep, the likes of the Mirror and other unreliable sport gossip columns are all over this. However, where is the substance? Its purely guesswork based on Moyes struggling with other targets. Its significant that many other imo reputable media outlets have chose not to pick up on this and have run RM's statement saying no bids for LB or MF. Of course it maybe that Moyes makes a formal offer and if he does, let's hold him to ransom given the figures quoted elsewhere for top premiership players. Until then, I won't get rattled by the likes of the Mirror.

Mart

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I remember Kenright saying that 100% of the money from sales will be available for Martinez. Which is a good thing.

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McCarthy, Ash Williams, Defoe. A good experienced, proven spine for the team.

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Anderson is shocking!

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Totally agree with u, fellani wants to go, and he is worth 3 red cards a season, got to keep bainsy though

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Someone had to replace Scholes!

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Rather have Osman

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07 Aug 2013 17:20:07
Heard moyes going for baines again"we don't want to sell just like he don't want to sell rooney, he an absolute axxhole

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I would say he can't wait to offload Rooney he's just playing the game to get the highest price

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07 Aug 2013 17:18:40
Heitinga and cash for alderweireld
Fellaini to be sold
Buy marrone, jorginho
Maybe another attacker?

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That would suit me, Oscar. Although I reckon that we'd be able to get another squad player with the Felli money, too. Nothing big, maybe another Naismith type player (not in terms of position, more in terms of cost - he was free but if not he'd have cost £2m-ish - and use, which is just as a squad number booster).

Because let's face it, we need all the players we can get to boost our numbers, however the youth can fill that if RM sees fit.

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07 Aug 2013 16:39:37
Rumours are rife that negotiations have started with Utd for Fellani. Do u think this is true ed {Ed025's Note - it would not surprise me mate..

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07 Aug 2013 16:31:24
I have contacts with leading agent. He told me weeks ago Everton only have 5 to 6 million to spend up front. any more would have to be spread over other seasons. The delay with Kone deal was Everton wouldn't pay much up front. other clubs moved in but the player only wanted to go to Everton. So all these links are bull. when clubs find out Everton want to buy players on the never never or on loan they tell them to do one. Expect maximum of one more player unless we sell. By the way he also said Everton would cash in on baines if bid was around 16 18 million but United don't want to pay that they offered ten. He also said ArsenAl won't stump up the fifty mill transfer and wages for Felli.

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I don't get it why would an agent know how much we have to spend?

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Every transfer no matter how rich are done on as you call it the never never do you actually anything about football

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There are a million ways to structure a transfer deal. The idea that other clubs would be looking down their noses at Everton (for wanting to minimise their outlay) is risible.

Real still owe Tottenham for Modric - does that mean Los Vikingos are a perrenial embarrassment to their fans?

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I got told almost word for word the same story yesterday from somebody who has a very respected position in the media. paul p

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As if m8! Not true sky money? Money from last season? your talking utter crap, tell your secret agent to get another job

Rich84

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I know payments are spread but most clubs want a bigger lump sum up front which Everton don't have. Why can't you take on board the club is skint have you been asleep for the past two decades. There won't be any big money signings unless Felliani is flogged.

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Bit harsh to flog him IMO. He may be a liability at times but doesn't deserve a flogging.

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07 Aug 2013 20:48:06
For goodness sake. why would we tell an agent how much we have to spend unless we want to pay top dollar. And yes, we do pay for players over a period of time, usually over the length of their contract.
Pretty much the same as United did when they bought Rooney off us!
AJ

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07 Aug 2013 21:07:27
paul p whos the respected person in the media you were talking to. Every club does this splitin up of payments or add ons its nothing new.

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07 Aug 2013 16:23:33
With Fellaini most likely going now, I can see alderweireld and McCarthy as 100% deals. Would you expect another 2 after them if they was to happen ed? I would. Snowy {Ed025's Note - maybe one snowy..

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McCarthy would be hugely dissapointing, not a creative midfielder and you only have to look at how we were schooled by Valencia to see how much more technically advanced they are in that respect, so the continent is where we should look for any replacement.

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Jorginho could be the player, looks like he's got everything McCarthy has plus technique. Any idea on possible deals ed? I'm dying here {Ed025's Note - we all are mate, we will sign some good players, just wait and see..

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Totally agree, the two names mentioned here are nowhere near 100%. If you think McCarthy could fill Fellaini's boots mate you've got another thing coming, would be a big step backwards for me. Bobby should find a gem or two from overseas

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How about 20 million and Ashley young for fellaini. good deal if u ask me

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To be honest don't think he said McCarthy is going to replace Fellaini did he. He means McCarthy will most likely be coming along with another midfielder

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Yeah and my point is that we'd need to find someone in the same sort of class as Fellaini. If we were to buy McCarthy for there asking price there wouldn't be enough funds left to replace the big man, nowhere near enough!

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07 Aug 2013 12:54:57
Uncle Bill could you please let those cheap stakes UTD understand. If we are to sell our prize assests we want top dollar and not negotiable. I think Mr Moyes was picked for UTD as the days of there big spending has now finished. This will shown by the way once they have spent they will sell Rooney!

UTD put up or shut up!

I for one will be cheering Wigan on at the weekend.


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RM says there been no bids for the big fella, as long as it stays that way the press can speculate all they want.

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Swap for Rooney.
Bob

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Wigan might win because they have got rid of crap manager Martinez lol
MJ {Ed025's Note - get a grip MJ..

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07 Aug 2013 12:48:42
If fellaini's buy out clause has past it's date, unt should be told 30m cash now or look elsewhere, the ginger rat is quite clearly out of his depth and getting more desperate by the day, if he f. up unt find, but leave us alone you unprincipled little nobody.

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It hasn't, it runs out on August 14th

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What date is champ league cut off as surely that would be most likely date for Fellaini clause to be over. It makes sense if they only teams who can activate it and would still leave time to reinvest money, I think?

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Ginger rat. he will be like mike walker by halloween 18BLUEBOY78

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07 Aug 2013 12:44:07
Barkley and Gibson were not up to it against Valencia. Barkley showed glimpses of his talent but also immaturity. Gibson was non-existant for the majority of the game. Stones and Naismith have been pleasent suprises throughout pre-season.

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To say that Barkley showed immaturity is just ridiculous. I mean he's 19 what do you expect you sound just like you have been brainwashed by Moyes.

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Pretty sure gibson didn't come on till late on, pretty hard to have an impact from the bench, he is class in my opinion.
Steve the blue

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It's only pre season blud. Calm down.

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You seem to contradict yourself. You say that the notion of Barkley showing signs of immaturity is "ridiculous", yet you also say "what do you expect, he's 19" You seem to be one of theese fans who refuses to digest any ctricism for certain players. A lot of fans seem to reject any critism for Barkley and Gibson in particular. I like Barkley, he's a great talent and a great prospect but you cannot reject negative comments regarding Barkley's performence in the Valencia game. I still think he's at the bottom of the pecking order and should be brought into first team football slowly for the time being. I have saw first 11 team sheets on here written by fans and a lot seem to include Barkley and Gibson. Gibson is injury prone and barkley is not ready yet. To me they are sqaud players for those reasons. Barkley should take a step up this season, but his progress must not be rushed and I stand by how Moyes dealt with the progress of Barkley.

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I know it is only pre-season, that's why I said against Valencia. i'm not saying that they are sh** but just merely making an observation on that particular game.

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How can Gibson be injury prone! Other than jags distin and felli he played the most mins per season as for Barkley I'm assuming you would still have p. neville in middle if could, Barkley is great prospect but can only get better with minutes on pitch IMO from what I've seen pre season he is level if not ahead of Osman come Norwich game and how do you feel motes dealt with vellios, McAleny, junior, ruddy, pretty fair treatment of them I suppose, out with the old in with the new come on bobby!

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07 Aug 2013 12:40:51
Press now widely reporting that Man U. Are close to concluding a deal for Fellaini with possibly Anderson coming the other way, could be quite good move I reckon as I don't think Fellaini has looked all that interested since Christmas & Anderson would fit more into martinezs style.

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07 Aug 2013 13:35:53
Its not true at present. Personally I would sell him. Attitude since turn of the year has been poor. He is not the game changer that he should be and Martinez was not at all impressed with his demeanour which he also noted during that FA cup tie!
AJ

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So u would be pleased with Anderson? Do me a favour will ya!

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Ed or anyone, does anyone know how the percentage sell on clause works on Felli's contract? Is it for a total value of a deal done or just cash value of a sale?

For example if we took say £20 million for Felli with Anderson coming the other way would it be worked out as a total deal worth say £26 million and we have to pay Standard Liege whatever the % is on £26 or would it be simply on the cash component?

If it is just on the cash then it would kind of make sense to do some type of swap deal if he wants to go. {Ed025's Note - im not sure mate..

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United have not made a bid for fellaini martinez said it is business as normal

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07 Aug 2013 21:10:40
Re WtG
If the clause is still in effect it would be on the 26M in your example, not the net (cash) difference.
However, I think that the sell on clause may have expired, it was only valid on his first contract.
I also believe that the buy out clause has not yet expired. I think that it is 14th August. BK has previously stated ( about eight weeks ago ) that the buy out clause was for a sum in "excess of £25m, and not the £23m widely quoted".
Also, Man U enquired about Fellani weeks ago and talks have been ongoing, slowly, in the hope that they could land Fabregas as first choice.
AJ

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07 Aug 2013 23:43:01
first timer here. some people on this site are mental. firstly. last night in the main was a bit of a sham. i'm afraid bobby is going to try an do too much too soon and destroy what we have. the shape last night was terrible. friendly or no friendly. we can't all be s**** at work because head office aren't in for two weeks. on the subject of barkley. I understand he is young, but surely he has played football for around 14 years. his decision make is so poor it brggars belief. I remember an 18 year old rooney destroying everybody at euro 04. so b******* to his age. nhe needs to improve this year or he is in trouble of being in the lost potential bin of league 1. oviedo gets better everytime I see him, naismith has been a little surprise too. at least he tries. mr fellaini. who just doesn't care anymore. sell him bring in 3 & give bobby two years of support to see if we cn push on. if not. big dunc please

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07 Aug 2013 11:29:05
20 million plus Anderson for fellaini would be good for us! Anderson is good on the ball and fits Martinez style, with the money go and buy another holding midfielder, creative midfielder and maybe another striker! I don't want felly to go but if he doesn't want to be there and it's a decent offer then we need to take it!
Get baines to sign on the dotted line! And we will be ready!
What are your thoughts ed! Is he off? {Ed025's Note - he may be si, but only if utd dont get their real targets, if he is happy to join a team who dont really want him, and using him as a back up, then i say let him go..

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Hi ed do you know how bad the injury jelavic suffered is. just seen that everton are monitoring him. it would be a real blow if he was to miss the start of the season I think he would have scored in the first game and really start with a bang. {Ed025's Note - sorry mate i dont..

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Would prefer valencia tom efc

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No we want the full buyout fee please and hopefully more than that after August 14th cause he's worth much more. We don't want any United outcasts involved in the deal either (which won't happen anyway). We've already got a handfull of midfield players at our club that are better than Anderson and that's not counting Fellaini. If United want to get rid of him I reckon they'll struggle to get any sort of fee anyway. This is a non starter

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Anderson is not good enough end of story.

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Utd would never go for that as Anderson is worth more than 3m

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07 Aug 2013 11:07:48
Ed could you see us going for Eriksen have we shown an interest? Just have seen a few posts about him that's why I'm wondering. {Ed025's Note - i would be surprised mate, the fee will be too high..

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If fellaini went, then that would take us closer to agreeing a fee, but the problem would be, that he would want european football.

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07 Aug 2013 09:01:25
Looks like fellaini will be off to united. moyes as bid for him

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Means nothing, clubs make bids for players all the time, the player doesn't always go do they?

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For the right price, won't complain as long as Bobby gets 100% of the funds.

Martinez can then bring in 2-4 players to really solidify the squad, and not to mention get midfielders that are more suited to his system, as I don't think Fellaini is perfect for Martinez's system.

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Surely if Moyes has bid with his knowledge of Fellaini's contract he will be bidding the bought out amount - therefore i'm sure, if this is the case, he's a gonner as he's already talked about desire to play champs footy etc.

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07 Aug 2013 08:55:39
Roberto Martinez and Gerard Deulofeu allegedly had an altercation on the touchline during the Everton vs Valencia match

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They did not Deulofeu was confused about the role he was playing and Martinez had to remind him was all.

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Not true. He went off and sat down. Camera focused on him after he went off and he wasn't doing anything. There was no argument.

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I watched the game, didn't see it myself. On a positive note though we played OK, not great but OK, RM and lads seen what the team should play like, Valencia kept the ball so well, when we attacked u could see the desperate need for a proper ball playing midfielder. Creative midfielder is NEEDED pls.

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'allegedly'

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Yes definately need a creative cm. If we had to sell fellaini for £24m + money we should still have available say £10m at least would give us £34m to get a fellaini replacement and a creative cm like honda, very do-able IMHO
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07 Aug 2013 15:39:20
We played four across the back and as ever became predictable against half decent opposition. This must have reinforced to those doubters that we will never win anything with tat system.
Back to 3 at the back and watch us kick on - this will be a great season.

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07 Aug 2013 07:26:51
Man U have made a bid below the £23.5 mil buy out for Fellaini (The Mirror). Moyes had the clause put in his contract for the best for Everton. SO RESPECT IT MOYES! How about he buys Naismith for £20mil if he needs a midfielder. he was good enough to sign once by him. Ozzie

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07 Aug 2013 08:37:24
Just seen it too mate, if the big guy goes then he goes, for me Baines is a must keep and we could sacrifice Felli if it kept the banks happy and Bobby got a good chunk to re invest.

Looks like Moyesee is getting rejected by everyone he goes for, on and up for us though, come on Bainesee sign that contract extension and give us blues the best signing of the transfer window for years.

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07 Aug 2013 08:42:17
How can Fellaini go from one of the most talked abot players in the prem to no being worth less than £23M! He has a long contract and in the currentclimate of fees I would say should go for no less than £30M. He is young and a very unique player who is also an International. If he goes forless than £30M we have been mugged off. Like the £14M bid for Baines! The highest rating full back last year probably in Europe. Scores, runs, sets up and defends. BK needs to be strong here and say to Utd to think again if they want them on the cheap. Do a "Levy" on them. Let's mug them off for a change!

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Why are fans from all teams including ours getting in to little hissy fits as and when other clubs put in transfer bids for players as if it is some type of crime. Liverpool questioning Arsenals class for bidding for Suarez, Spurs crying over Real Madrid bidding for Bale, us questioning Moyes' respect for our club by bidding for our players? As far as I am aware it is not illegal to put in transfer bids for any player at any club who is under contract. Only 3 things will happen, the bid is accepted, the bid is declined or the bid activates some type of clause. Football clubs buy football players from other teams, they do this by putting in bids, they try and get the player for the lowest price possible or sell for the highest price possible, it is how the football business works. Nothing new so I don't get why all of a sudden people get upset with this part of the sport.

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Wow. thanks for clearing that up svenny!

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Roberto Martinez has come out and said there has been no bids for any players, I don't know where you've got this from but it doesn't come more official that the manager

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Anyone else feel like this is getting a bit embarrassing for Moyes? UTD almost seem more interest in the potential for him to get our players on the cheap than they do his managerial ability. I couldn't see them putting in such, derisory and pathetic bids for our players if Moyes wasn't their manager. Seems like he is a glorified bargaining chip at this point to me.

And it isn't that people are bidding for our players it is that the bids are pitiful. We wouldn't sell them on cheap with Moyes now they expect us to because he left. We got 24 mill for Lescott for god sake.

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And does anyone know what exactly is going on with Felli's release clause, has it expired? Is it going to expire? If so when?

Cheers Rudd

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07 Aug 2013 12:19:29
its simple. every time a club bids less than you want, your reply is "NO". then you wait til its enought to make you say "YES. Just charge them admin fees for the replies! say £1m per reply?

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I think we all know how tranfers work mate, but just find it really annoying losing your best players when trying to improve. One step forward two steps back. BLUEJ HUYTON

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No bid for Fellaini according to El Bob. If Gollum wants him he can pay what he's worth and not a penny less. He'd do well to remember 'Everton don't sell cheaply', maybe then he'd have a chance of landing him.

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What's with all the Moyes bad mouthing? Martinez has bought two players from his old club - are we not applying the same standards, or is it just a convenient excuse to vent spleen? Moyes deserves huge credit for his work at Everton. We should be concentrating on Martinez building on that hard work and not let a few try-hards demonise someone who made a huge contribution to the club.

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07 Aug 2013 00:09:40
Hi ed, this isn't gossip more of a question. Do you know of any transfers in the I pipeline? Do you expect anyone in before 1st game of season? {Ed025's Note - i expect another 2 mate, but who, i will leave to bobby..

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07 Aug 2013 18:33:18
Great replies. Agree that it goes on all the time just saying let's get as much as we can if they have to go to reinvest in the club

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