Everton Rumours Archive July 29 2015

 

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29 Jul 2015 19:51:43
Great news with the club going public on John stones, let's hope they see it through. Is there anything in the Shiqiri deal Ed? Would be a quality signing

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{Ed025's Note - he would be tron, but its very unlikely to happen in this window mate..

30 Jul 2015 07:32:39
I don't know what's going to happen with stones, clearly I would like him to stay a couple more seasons, but if he goes we just move on. no one player is bigger than the club and if he does go it will be for good money. but I will say this, I hope he doesn't go to chelsea just because of some of the comments by mourinho and the derisary bids thus far made. I generaly like mourinho but he can be arrogant and a wind up merchant. I hope man city or Everton tell everton they will match or better any offers made by chelsea and if stones does go he chooses to stay up north just to wipe that smug look off mourinhos face!

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30 Jul 2015 08:43:51
Man Utd apparently registering interest. If he does decide to go I think it would be prudent of us to play all of the clubs off each other. If it is done privately surely we can tell Man City whatever we want regarding other clubs' bids to ensure the highest possible amount is leached from them.

Ultimately, I don't want him to leave as I think it is bad news to sell the players we should be building a team around, and I think it sends the wrong message out. Fellaini I could accept as it was clear he didn't fit the Martinez model, but Stones epitomises the way we should be playing from the back.

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30 Jul 2015 10:44:16
If as stated in the garbage tabloids that the 2 Manc sides are about to come in is true, then Stones will go for 35 million, as long as we get to spend that cash

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30 Jul 2015 13:24:29
All ifs and buts, but if he does go we need to buy replacements 1st or risk paying over the odds later. If he does go I'd like 30+mil and Hernandez from United then use some of that on van dijk and dragovic.the board can pocket the rest or give back to the fans and get Shaqiri or another class player as a show of intent.

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30 Jul 2015 17:03:18
Why don't the hierarchy just come out on spn & say stones is not 4 sale @ any price & give the lad a new contract effectively doubling his money that should do the trick.
If were to show any ambition need 2 keep him & build team round him 4 the future.Martinez sez we don't have 2 sell so that being the case he should stay.
I still think he'll go if not in this window certainly the Jan one for sure because everyone has a price.
Can't blame the lad who no doubt has been unsettled by mourhino, Cahill & co so in effect similar to the lescott situation only matter of time b4 it happens.
Better 4 us if it does go ahead that other clubs city,utd & Chelsea have an auction sell to highest bidder 35-40 mill not a penny less.

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30 Jul 2015 19:43:30
@jonsey. Where you from pal as I have a cousin who we all call that.

I wouldn't take any less than 50m for stones. If sterlin? Cost 49m then sure stones is worth 50m as its just important to have a great defence as well as a good attack

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29 Jul 2015 17:16:58
Hi ed from a good source who trains the kids he reckons stones definitely going mate I'm gutted if I'm honest do you think Lennon will be back ed cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Lennon will leave Spurs and is perhaps considering options before committing to EFC.}

29 Jul 2015 18:47:04
Trains the kids or not it"s just another individuals opinion. no more believable or unbelievable than the girl who cuts Ross's hair

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29 Jul 2015 09:16:02
hi Ed, have you heard this one and do you know if any truth in it - we are favourites to sign Aleksandr Dragovic from Dynamo Kyiv for 14mil euros

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{Ed002's Note - Dragovic might be an option if Stones leaves for Chelsea or any other club. Certainly Everton will not have made a bid at this time - unless they know Stones is off.}

29 Jul 2015 19:37:12
Why would we not be after him even if stones doesn't get sold? We need a centre back even if stones stays.

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{Ed002's Note - He would be seen as a replacement.}

29 Jul 2015 19:51:17
So will we be after an obvious 3rd choice centre back rather than buying 1 who could challenge straight away?

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{Ed002's Note - There has been interest in young two-footed and expensive Dragovic from Hertha Berlin, Manchester United, Arsenal and Inter, with Arsenal pressing his agent on a number of occasions. Dinamo Kiev are keen to keep hold of the player but it may prove difficult. Dragovic would be a replacement for Stones - if Liverpool look for another CB it could be either a replacement or an option used as cover.}

29 Jul 2015 20:00:17
We need another cb regardless of the Stones situation ed002, so I suppose whoever we take an interest in will be classed as such. Doesn't mean that is the case though. Dragovic did impress me last season but I haven't seen enough of him playing to judge properly. I'd rather have the lad from Celtic to be honest

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29 Jul 2015 15:24:59
Just heard we have rejected the second bid from Chelski for Stones well done keep it up.

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29 Jul 2015 18:01:11
Its all well and good saying we've rejected the bid lancerboy,but imo we are only holding out for a higher offer and Stones will be gone,and if that happens so will i. I am sick to death of this board taking the piss outta us loyal fans who spend our hard earned cash following our club home and away and we get nothing in return.We are told were not a selling club if that's right why do we always sell our crown jewels to the highest bidder? We unearth a gem and soon as someone wants to pay x amount for them we sell them.Stones should not be allowed to leave Everton no matter how much is offered,even if his head has been turned he should be told you're here at least till your contract runs out.weve got potentially a future captain of club and country on our hands who can go on to be one of the best centre halves in europe and I like many want him to do that playing for us not playing for Chelski or whoever. I am sick to death of this board only seeing pound signs so they can line there pockets that's all there doing imo. Where has all this bumper sky deal money gone? Why have we only spent £4.3 million pound on one player? Why has it gone quiet all of a sudden about a new ground? Why hasn't Mccarthy had a new contract offer? A nd most importantly why are we always looking to sell to the highest bidder when were told we don't have to? in saying that we've not sold Stones as yet, but I think its only inevitable we will with this board of freeloaders sucking the life outta our great club and outta me while there at it.I want to know where all the money has gone,show me the money. Rant over.

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29 Jul 2015 18:45:32
selling club hmm who, fellini we said no he handed in a transfer request lescott got greedy Rooney enough said have I missed out anyone from the long list of players we sold oh Arteta who most of us thought was finished
but saying all that we do need to add but who and for whom I`ve no idea the 2 players we got we wanted one Del boy and let's hope Tom can show his potential

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29 Jul 2015 18:51:14
if Stones was a product of our youth system I would be saying keep him but fact is the lad owes us nothing,

the lad had to wait for his chance due to distin's form.

(we flashed the cash and flexed our little power to get him just like Chelsea are doing now)

he was a youth prodigy before we got him and was always going to the top.

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29 Jul 2015 19:32:48
And who would you like him to go to the top with? because it won't be us botn with this board running our club. ssn reporting Everton have no intention of selling John Stones and have twice told Chelski he's not for sale.Finally a response.

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29 Jul 2015 19:42:33
Hardly a selling club now as gg has pointed out none of us want stones gone but realistically if an offer say 50m plus and not a penny less comes in then as a club we would have to consider but only if invested back into squad I really hope not love to keep him many evertonians at the moment seem to think we are going backwards right now but tbh I am very excited by our squad right now some top players with some ( very exciting youngsters ) comin through a lot of whom are English which is really good to see whether Martinez is the right man for job or not which I still believe he is then I think the coming seasons could be an exciting time for us blues

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30 Jul 2015 18:04:58
JimmyC, the clubs books are open to scrutiny every year. Where the money goes and who gets what is published for all to see. I can't remember when Everton last paid a dividend to shareholders but I'd guess it's a long time, so the theory that the board are creaming off the profits just isn't true. What the books will show is that it takes a hell of a lot of money to run a premier league football club and that those in charge do a terrific job keeping Everton competitive.
Some may think that now that the television money is coming in things may get better, What I'm afraid of is that it will push transfer fees up and the rich clubs will still have the upper hand.
As for our own transfers, we always do business late in the window. Trust in Roberto, we will have a competitive team to start the season.

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30 Jul 2015 18:31:23
Good post mike

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30 Jul 2015 20:41:55
IIRC the Everton accounts also have a large bucket for "other" outgoings which have never been explained

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31 Jul 2015 13:35:20
Any forensic accountant worth his salt would find out where every penny as gone. The fact that this avenue hasn't been explored leaves me to believe that there's nothing sinister gong on. If any shareholders were suspicious of the book-keeping then they could get the accounts scrutinised. In the modern business word it's almost impossible to deflect money away from a business undetected.

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29 Jul 2015 09:09:17
I see some of the papers are trying to sell McCarthy again. Any truth to this Ed or are the papers just trying to sell our whole first team before deadline day?

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{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware he is going nowhere. Everton have made it very clear he is not for sale. The offer would have to be ridiculous or the club would look ridiculous accepting it now.}

29 Jul 2015 14:38:06
Thanks Ed. Guess they need to sort his contract though if they want him to stay long term.

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29 Jul 2015 16:17:17
If you believe it all then we could be without Mirallas, McArthy and Stones. Never mind though Martinez is yet again very excited.

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29 Jul 2015 19:05:13
how long do we give Martinez?

he came on a promise of bringing champions league football to us which to me isn't any closer than it was under walter smith

if I was in charge I would give him until 8am Thursday morning and if we haven't got a team that can finish in the top 4 give him his marching orders.

also how much has he spent in his short time with us. McCarthy, Kone, lukaku, 50 mil+ just on those

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29 Jul 2015 21:59:36
Rom and McCarthy are well worth the money we paid for them let's be honest here it's the board that needs sacking he may have spent 50 mill on them 3 but we sold Fellini for 28 mill n got the sky TV money??? You can't blame Roberto after one bad season look at other clubs etc stoke, west ham all smaller spending well more money it's a joke yas weren't moaning at the end of his 1st season fickle kopite behaviour!!

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30 Jul 2015 13:23:03
i see West Ham United really pushing on this coming season, same too with Newcastle (the wally with the brolly) knows how to perform in the league

spurs will be around the top 5 places, I don't see us finishing higher than 10th at best right now.

Baines had a poor and injury filled season and not sure if he will or even wants to bounce back knowing his utd ship has sailed

too many young kids are filling in the gaps, look at villa and how the kids have done there

can lukaku score 20+ goals this season with our current team?? I don't see it happening

Martinez first season was moyes's team performing and anyone saying any different is laying to themselves, last season we see his influence on the team and I hate to see where we will be at the end of the coming season,

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30 Jul 2015 17:45:07
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember Waaly Smith getting us into Europe. As for the cost of the three players £48m. Considering the money being quoted for McCarthy I think we got the best part of the deal even if we cut our losses and let Kone go to Southport for £5.00

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{Ed025's Note - yeah but wigan want a bit of that as a sell on clause mike?.. :)

31 Jul 2015 13:39:59
Bugger! We'd better keep him then

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29 Jul 2015 10:47:50
We're being linked with dragovic at centre back now. £9 million and apparently we've jumped ahead of Napoli in the race for his signature. Worrying that all the reports of centre backs are marked as stones replacements rather than distin and alcaraz replacements that we need!

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29 Jul 2015 11:45:07
Thought he was solid against us last season for Kiev. Liked the look of him throughout the tournament in the games I saw. If we lose stones I will be gutted but Dragovic & Van Dijk are not bad replacements. Ashley Williams/Scott Dann type players are however bad replacements and should not be considered!

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29 Jul 2015 11:57:46
It is likely that they are Distin and Alcaraz replacemennts, but the papers can't resist a go at Everton as per. Just because we look at centre halfs they assume that its because we have to sell one of our current centre halfs, lazy journalism.
As far as the John Stones rumours go, I doubt he's leaving, as he surely wouldn't of played any of these pre season games recently. He'd be off trying to sort out a move. I'll never believe anything out of the papers until its official on ssn

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29 Jul 2015 12:27:26
Even if stones stays which I expect him to the papers will always say x y and z are stones replacement not taking into account that we need at least one cb anyway and that's before stones leaves if he does leave then we'll need 2 cbs Imo alcaraz doesn't need replacing as our team would of performed better with 10 men on the pitch

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29 Jul 2015 14:03:11
We really shouldn't be responding to all the hype in the papers. The one about Lukaku and Depay is just hilarious. I will be surprised if we sell anybody, and if we do it will be because of an incredible record breaking offer that we couldn't refuse. Yes, Lukaku and Stones will eventually go, but we should have them both for at least one more year, when they will be worth more

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29 Jul 2015 14:58:37
We defo need 1 centre back already. If stones were to go we would need two. I would like to think that Galloway/ browning or even Pennington could cover that 4th Centrẻ back slot.

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30 Jul 2015 17:38:42
I think Clarkey, that Martinez has more in mind for Galloway and Browning than being 4th back up. These two boys are quality, especially Galloway. I think maybe he may be earmarked to partner Stones in the middle. That is of course if Stones stays. Either way I think he'll be a starter at CB by the start of the 2016-17 season.

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31 Jul 2015 20:10:50
agree mike two quality players both ready to help if needed imo could see more of dowell and mcaleny also dowell looked class the other night love to see more of him

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29 Jul 2015 07:26:19
Morning Ed/Blues

Anyone any more info on Bills illness, is there any link with this and us not spending any more money on transfers

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{Ed025's Note - not heard anything on bill murf, but the silence tells me that all is not well, i think we will add to the squad though mate but it may be late in the day when the transfer merry go round starts..

29 Jul 2015 11:59:19
I heard a while ago that Bill had Cancer (touch wood). Hope i'm wrong tho

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29 Jul 2015 13:21:28
I am not a lover of KenWrong but I do believe he is very ill, and I do hope he has a full recovery.

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29 Jul 2015 15:22:22
I know you didn't mean it Stig but the nickname Kenwrong should be put aside when talking about someone possibly suffering with cancer

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29 Jul 2015 15:59:04
Christ almighty! Course we want him to be alright! Do you remember Peter Johnson! He nearly, completely shafted us as a football club! We stared relegation in the face on more than one occasion and were in debt beyond our eyeballs. Bill has come in and openly admitted he isn't the Billionaire that we all so want, but he rescued us when we needed it the most. Took us to Europe and tried to balance the books in the best way possible with the thoughts of only Everton FC at the forefront! Get well soon Bill!

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