Everton Rumours Archive January 23 2012

23 Jan 2012 23:29:04
I think billy could still come good if not sold
As long as he plays cam instead ov cahill, not saying get rid ov tim or nothin like tha just
Use him as a sub a bit more
Huyton blue
C.O.Y.B

Huyton blue ur using my name mate. I've been posting on here 4 months wid that name u will have to change it lol

Go the game and you'll see his productiveness is nigh on nil. Ipwanted him to come good but give me an explosive winger with good output ala Drenthe (7 assists 2 goals in 6 starts) or the flying Alessio Cerci anyday. The richest club n the world, City were in for him in the summer. Don't mind if we do thank you

But Bily is not an "explosive winger" he is an attacking mid who plays his best football behind the striker, and he has only ever played there once for us, his first game in Europe when he set up 2 and scored 1. I will be sorry to see him go coz Moyes has not played him in the correct way, I agree with you that Drenthe is better on the wing!

And against Tamworth where he was outplayed, outpassed, outthought and outclassed by a joiner, a painter & decorator and an assistant manager in McDonalds
MrTrotskysGhost

23 Jan 2012 22:55:15
was watching soccer saturday the other week,paul merson said he couldn't understand how nobody had come in to buy everton? and that if he had the cash he would buy ,"they are a great club,with great fans".i like merson.so why hasn't somebody bought this club,is it asking price?, is it the stadium? is it debt?why didint moysey spend wisley when we were bouncing pienaar,bainsey combo,arteta and cahill firing.10 million on billy would have been much better spen on a striker,i know its easy for me to say in hindsight.damm

When we bought Bily we had Yak, Saha, Johnson who were all on form, we didnt need another striker then!

On form,but not scoring 20-25 goals a season.

23 Jan 2012 22:16:32
Y is everyone coming up with theese bull## rumours we wil be lucky to sign 2 players never mind 10

Agree,but its great to hear of all these names."Pinch of salt" is the phrase...
Between tonight and next Tuesday there will be another 10 names mentioned..COYB
George

You wont let what real fans think moyes is crap manager the way he treats strikers is appauling

He treats strikers? What you on about? Fletcher plays by himself and scores Darren bent etc so how does he ruin them again?

23 Jan 2012 21:13:00
My God is this a site for Everton fans or people who really hate everythin about Everton.... the chairman, the owners, the manager, the tactics, the transfer dealings(and supposed lying about fees received), half the team, obsession with apparent redsh@te infiltration into the site..... Just listen to urselves!!

I am surprised ur not all having a go at the groundsmen and saying that the grass isn't green enough!!
Frankly it's embarrassing!!!

Totally agree with this comment. Wake yerselves up and get behind our team.

The grass........bloody hell I knew there was something wrong with it.............sack that bloke with the rake.....wtf did we pay all that money for those lawnmowers??? :(

Fans like that don't deserve to be 'fans' your supposed to support your team and bo***** them constantly. No-one actually knows whats going on behind closed doors with Bill so no-one can criticize and be certain.

More like we hate what has become of our club.
Never known the place so divided! Its time some of the real money men at Everton stood up to be counted the likes of Grantchester.

Granchester will not give a penny to Kenwright.

To the composer of this post...get a life loser

I have watched everton for about 35 years and remember the good couple of years but a lot more bad years than i would have liked, we have had some poor managers over the years but though i dont agree always with moyes team selections or the way we play but he is the best we will get, everyone blames bill for all our problems but if you remember who we had before bill is that what we want to go back to, most of our club depts came from our previous chairman, ok bill has got the debt increased over the years. but this is to try and get into the top 4, it hasnt worked for us and now the debt has come back to byte us, now because we now have to clear part of the debt to survive bill is a bad man, do you all remember leeds and portsmouth is this what we realy want

Think its time the editor did his job and stopped the abusive posts! {Ed025's Note - which posts are abusive?.....i dont post abuse...

Mmnnn...now lets see - Leeds and Portsmouth get into debt....start selling players to pay bills....get relegated.
Sound familiar?
So we have one step to go then don't we.....wake up and smell the coffee.

When people support a club all of their lives and pay a large chunk of their wages following their team, they have a right to express an opinion, and just because they are pissed off with the s**t they have to deal with season after season, doesn't mean they are turning on their club. We live in a democracy... (Wavertree Blue)

Get a life? Why coz I have criticised some of the fans instead of everything else at the club? Okay mate!

Players who can't be arsed running or close Down opposition when I'm paying the to do so are going to know I'm not happy - same as if I paid a plumber 700 quid and he looked like he couldn't be arsed fixing my tap

Kenwright has paid nothing into the club in his whole time here - there have been initial loans but they are being paid back - at 8 per cent interest as well - so it's costing big bill sweet f all to be top dog here for 10 years - n now he's sitting on a potential profit on sale of 100 million!

He's paid less for his effing seat than I have!!

The chap who posted his opening gambit as supporting Everton for 35 years. You make some interesting points, all of which bar one I disagree with!

When Kenwright took over this club, our debt was at £15m. He promised to run the club in accordance with his self imposed financial restrictions! He promised never to allow the debt to become unmanageable. Since the appointment of MoyesKenwright and his board have sanctioned 107.01m in purchases, recouping 104.44m in sales all in all the equates to 2.43m gross! This figure does not include wages mind.
I know Johnson was an unpopular choice amongst blues, however, he did rebuild the Park End and left us in debt to the tune of £15m
If we are to believe rumours and conjecture Kenwright and his board have at thus current time have accrued a unserviceable debt of between £46m and £67m. So Ridsdale (Leeds) gambled with the future of his club and sanctioned the purchase of over £100m ( David O'Leary )of players to keep his team challenging for CHAMPIONS LEAGUE without recouping on sales! Mandaric (Portsmouth) sanctioned the purchase of £97m (Harry Redknapp) without recouping in sales!
So that leaves us with the good old figure of 2.43m I mentioned at the start and Blue Bill has allowed our club to reach rock bottom without investing in our squad in 2.5 years! So stick with Blue Bill and stand with me on a cold rainy Wednesday night in Yeovil and I'll tell you I told you so!
Good luck!
Bobby blue!

Players you're paying?? Don't make me laugh! If you buy a season ticket every year for ur whole life you'd barely pay one them for a week!! Don't be an idiot!

23 Jan 2012 20:58:28
how much would Junior Hoilett of blackburn cost, 21 years old, reminded me of pienar, but quiker, i know spurs are interested, but could we steel a head start with the cash from a billy sale, seeing as they can not generate funds at the mo....byn {Ed025's Note - he will cost over £10m..so no chance..

Hes out of contract soon so wont be 10mill

Thats my point thought he was out of contract hence the ask....ed...10 mil seems high if thats the case....byn {Ed001's Note - his contract does expire in the summer, probably more likely to go for 7-8m if he leaves now. More likely to wait until the summer and then assess his options though.}

Why? We need a striker!

Blackburn will get around 7-8mil for Hoilett via the compensation rule, so it would be realsitically 10mil in January, and anyway there is no way he will go to Everton.

Just going to point out now that even if he goes out of contract in summer, he will not leave for free. Because he is under 24 and blackburn did offer him a contract of equal/greater terms, blackburn will be due compensation regardless.

23 Jan 2012 20:51:26
Does anyone know where Moyes or Kenwright live or live near them? If so, go to one or both of their houses and tell Kenwright:
1) Lower his asking price and sell the club
2) Give us some money to spend
Then tell Moyes:
1) Play Barkley
2) Play more attacking football
3) Enquire about Welliton because if he has only 6 months left on his contract he can't be that dear and would be absolutley brilliant for us.

And what will that do u bell, rem when bk got pjs shares we wer made up,liverpoo 115 mil 4 managers 3 chairman they are winning the league, sick of every person on ere berating bk, this is our pot and thats all we can p?s in.
ste blue

What planet do you live on,

Madejski has just sold 51% of Reading and according to the BBC for around 40million...
This would mean that the club is valued at around 80million or so! 80 million for a club lying in eighth position in the Championship with a stadium that holds less than 25,000 and a squad that would have about half the value of ours!! So is Kenwright really being so greedy....?

And if it were that simple you would be the master and the ruler of everton football club, grow up softlad

Barkley needs time, cant just throw him and expect him to perform

Moyes did throw Barkley on and he took him off after he made two mistakes at Blackburn.......great way to build the lads confidence...........not
And yes Kenwright is being too greedy. I have no problem with people making a profit but him and his cronies are after too much profit.

Barkley has been injured, and the last time he came on against United he was the worst player on the pitch. I think the kid will be a world beater but he needs to look interested and hungry!

Barkley has just returned from a knee injury, he played in the U/18's few days ago. I can understand Moyes hesistation over the lad, he suffered a very serrious injury not too long ago, and physically (fitness) isnt quiet ready for 90mins, you saw what happened against Blackburn.

Although 30min cameos from the bench wouldnt do him any harm or us for that matter.

Barkley has been injured prior to the Bolton game and as a result has not been available for selection. Played and hour last week and is on the mend.

23 Jan 2012 20:20:24
Outs:
Steve Round
Yobo (Permanent) 1-2m
Bily although 2.5m is gettin said surely we can get 4m
Jagielka 15m

Ins:
Alan Irvine
Kostas Manolas 2m
Onuoha 3m
Welliton 9 euro's (7.9m)
Drenthe (perm) 2m
Cerci 5m

Team:

GK.Howard
RB.Coleman
CB.Manolas
CB.Onuoha
LB.Baines
RM.Cerci
CM.Fellaini
CM.Rodwell
LM.Drenthe
CAM.Cahill
ST.Welliton

Sorry, why would we sell the best player in our squad, are you mad?? and I'm not talkin about Billy or Yobo..

Were 20million goin come from

Wow your full of s**t we don't have to pay a thing for drenthe so that is bull s**t and kostas monolas would only cost 500k so do your research before posting absolute bull s**t

Drenthe is free at end of season get it right

And you think if you wait till the end of the season Drenthe would come to us if he was free, and Jagielka our best player... Really if you say so he's slow and just hoofs the ball all the time!

Not surprised he's free he's very poor. Undisciplined, one trick pony!

Alan Irvine is already in our staff team...

Why the F*** would we sell Jagielka?

Sell Jags some pepole just haven't got a clue. Also just like to wish Bily good look for the future. COYB

Sell jagielka?! Are u f****** mad? Glad
Moyes is in charge and not fans like u!

Just because he is a free agent, doesnt mean we dont have to pay for him, imagine him and his agent would command some sort of signing on fee.

Would have no issue with selling Jags,not been on form this season and Moyes does have an eye for defensive bargains(Lescott,Baines etc)

Calm down fellas, it's just a rumour site...

23 Jan 2012 19:43:34
7m Euros = 5.85m pounds. If that is what we are getting for Billy. Otherwise as other reports suggest it may only be 2.5m pounds.

23 Jan 2012 19:29:09
I think it's a shame Billy didn't do aswels as we had hoped for us because I like him. I wish Diniyar good luck at his new club.
Khaos

Yeah, apparently he's a hard worker.
He's just too weak and lacking in intensity.
Good luck to the lad - it just hasn't worked out

Pity he couldn't keep up his form when he got October player of the month last season or the season before.

Apparently is one of the most talented lad at Finch farm, just physically stuggles, such a shame, he has an absolute belter of a left foot on him.

23 Jan 2012 18:54:13
Where has all this on here come from about Wellington or whatever hes called, Source ? link? {Ed025's Note - welliton

Sorry Ed haha my bad!, Where has all this come from mate? {Ed025's Note - its just rumour mate

Welliton only 6 months left, also at Spartak. Moyer needs to get a wiggle on. Rapid epic frontman... Bubiiiii Bily at last!!

23 Jan 2012 17:44:41
Just been watching the ivory coast in the african cup of ntions! Someone needs to send the coverage to moyes! Beautiful passing and attacking football!

But everton are not ivory coast last time i looked

Yeh bt who were they playin? C'mon mate!

'But everton are not ivory coast last time i looked'....lol who disagreed with this statement...fools....so you disagree that everton are NOT ivory coast, , f*ck me whats going on here.

23 Jan 2012 17:21:41
Ed wasnt Moyes supposed to make a decision on Buddle by today? I havent heard anything
Toffeeboy {Ed025's Note - nor me toffo..

I heard Tuesday

23 Jan 2012 17:06:51
let's hope with the sale of bily, we can bring in welliton, onuoha and possibly cerci.

Howard
Hibbert Onuoha Hetinga Baines
Cerci Gibson Fellaini Drenthe
Welliton Saha

*Cerci is on the right wing as Donovan will be gone soon.
Feel free to post any changes you'd make.

ToffeeDave.

With 2mil transfer fee? Doubt it. But we can still hope :(

Sco.

Buy pienaar need summoned 2 hit the ground running hes knows the club n Baines wud b buzzin as wud felliani

Howard
Onuoha Jags Heitinga Baines
Gibson Fellaini
Cerci Barkley Drenthe
Wellilton

Good luck Billy!

Welliton would be a great signing my son buys him everytime on FIFA12 let's hope he's lives up to that and he come to Goodison.

CreweBlue

Talksh1t reporting 7m let's hope so and lets hope Bill releases some for a new player!

CreweBlue

-----------Howard--------------
---------------------------------
Onuoha Jags Heitinga Baines
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------------Fellaini-------------
-----Rodwell Barkley--------
Cerci/Donovan Drenthe
------------Welliton------------


doubt the welliton rumour though still, not seen anything on web other than here but wouldnt mind if anyone gave me link?

Wellinton is a definite nono.
Sco.

Howard
Onuoha Jags Heitinga Baines
Gibson Fellaini
Cerci Barkley Drenthe
Wellilton
Good idea getting rid of Saha, he's useless at the moment. I only put Hibbert at RB and Onuoha at CB because Jags is injured ;)

ToffeeDave.

If we do get in onuoha, cerci and welliton i will be absolutely amazed. The cost for all 3 of them would be around £15m i would of thought. What do you reckon Ed
Cheeks {Ed025's Note - i cant see welliton coming cheeks..

Chelsea had a 20 million euro bid turned down for wiilton! How we gonna get him! Lets be realistic people!

That was Willian who plays for Shakhtar not Welliton at Spartak who we are linked to although I cant see it
Toffeeboy

No chelsea got a 20 million bid for shaktar donetsk's willian. Not Spartak Moscow's Welliton. Also, don't call these rumours sh*te, because they are exactly that-RUMOURS-it's irrelevant if you don't think they'll go through.

ToffeeDave.

Yeh but anyone can voice their opinion.

'Yeh but anyone can voice their opinion.' I agree, it's just that some people get really annoyed over rumours for some reason

ToffeeDave.

23 Jan 2012 16:57:17
From the Echo

"DINIYAR BILYALETDINOV'S Goodison Park nightmare looks to be over after Everton FC agreed a deal with Russian side Spartak Moscow for his transfer.

The fee for the 26-year-old is thought to be in the region of £2.5m, meaning the Blues will take a substantial loss on the £9m they paid Lokomotiv Moscow for Bilyaletdinov back in August 2009."

2.5million!!
that looks under valued to me
yes he's not adapted to the premiership - but he will be good in another league
surely another russian team would have stumped up 4mil for a player who was previously a good player in the russian league and is a russian international !

hmm - what shall we spend all that 2.5 million on?

what wages was he on? maybe that's where the benefit comes - if we bought him for for nearly 10 million then he must have been on a decent wage - at least 40k per week ? anyone know?

7million euros = 5.8million pnds we will b getting

Yeah, I think it's about 40k.

ToffeeDave.

That il b everton lyin again over the amount ther gettin

I wonder if the Echo have been told to report the fee is only £2.5M (as opposed to the £5+M reported elsewhere) in order to pacify us fans when Moyes is only given a fraction of the fee to spend? BlueTone {Ed025's Note - the conspiracy page is on the main site..

There must be a lot of decent players out their who would love to come to everton for 35-40k per week!

Every deal everton do they lie in one way or another shambles

I know, let's tell every other team how much we're getting so they can hold us to ransom when we're trying to buy their players..Stef.

Ah, conspiracy theories!

23 Jan 2012 16:54:17
ed, when people say we're linked with Welliton, do they mean the Brazilian Spartak Moscow striker?

ToffeeDave. {Ed025's Note - thats him dave..

Well that's good news, I wasn't sure because he seemed far too good to be linked with us ;)

ToffeeDave.

23 Jan 2012 16:11:08
Seems the Bilyaletdinov rumours are true just foubd this:"Spartak have arrived at an agreement in principle with Everton and the 26-year-old Russian international midfielder Diniyar Bilyaletdinov on his transfer to our club," the statement said, adding a contract would be signed pending a medical.

Toffeeboy

Billy has scored some cracking goals for us but has just lacked consistency, lets wish him well at Spartak and spend the money wisely starting with Onuoha. {Ed025's Note - lets face it..he was just not good enough..but i do wish him well..

Good luck Dinayar! Wish you every success

I do believe that Bily has got real talent tho' our style of play after Arteta and Pienaar left just didnt suit him... He was much better during his first season when we had some ball playing midfielders.. This yr he has not done the business and has looked short on confidence.. I am sure the change will be good for him as he defo has some quality and hopefully we can use the money wisely... Best of Luck Bily!

23 Jan 2012 15:14:07
Widespread Rumour developing about Bily going to Spartak Moscow (might have been mentioned by now) but what i'm surprised about is the reported 7m transfer fee!

I would take that in a heartbeat.

Sco.

7m now reported to be 2.5m rising to 6m. Really big difference from what we initially paid for him.

23 Jan 2012 14:27:28
all over talksh1t website billy off to spartak moscow for 7mill
bring it on if thats true - wella

Ed......??? kav {Ed025's Note - hello....talkshit website...hello???

23 Jan 2012 13:55:37
Billy, going to Spartak Moscow £7M. Much need cash and not a bad return for someone we don't need. Cash for a striker WELLITON looks very good.

So good that moyes would have to save up every penny for the next 20 years for us to be able to afford him

Tell me this is true? What's the story with Welliton? He's in last 6 months of contract... He would be a MAJOR coup if it came to fruition. Finally the striker maybe?! Come on Moyes, Spartak for some reason want Bily, he HAS to go this month so cut our losses and part-ex for the Brasilleño. Jogo Everton! Goal Welliton!! {Ed025's Note - dont get your hopes up mate..

23 Jan 2012 12:46:06
Anymore news on rodwell handing in transfer request? Or news on the Ajax striker el hamdoudy (spelling) quersma (spelling) cerci, onucha (spelling) Morgan or lopes just heard that maxi Lopez will go psg if they don't get tevez

Milan have agreed to sign lopez if they dont get tevez deal agreed according to milan president

23 Jan 2012 11:45:09
Do the bank want us to fail?
Given the reported level of debt is it.in the banks interest to allow us to fail? Just thought i'd pose the question.

Not sure about the banks, but there is a strong suggestion that Earl has a vested interested in keeping us in debt as he is then able to loan us money (via his off shore company/companies) which we then pay back at exorbitant interest rates. This may or may not be true. There may or may not be others that benefit from the practice. The problem (or rather ONE of the problems) is that we are simply not able to find out the reality of the situation.

The bank are runiing the club. No progress is being made on the pitch and presumably the financial position is getting worse daily. Even significant investment in the squad does not guarantee a good enough improvement. The gap between EFC and the money boys is so great the bank may see no long term propsecys. I fear that EFC may be in real danger of going into adminstration and all that that entails...

I don't think we'll go into administration anytime time soon, we may not have much money, but we're a well run football club.

AlanEFC

23 Jan 2012 10:22:07
What happened with Quaresma ed? He was at goodison Saturday. {Ed025's Note - sorry mate i dont know..

After watching a display like that, he has probably given up and gone home.

Cant say i would have blamed him he probably couldnt get to the airport fast enough

23 Jan 2012 07:57:44
Hearing rumours, and I stress rumours that Rodwell to chelski is already a done deal, to be announced on Friday. All I'm hearing is 15m no other players involved. You heard anything about this Ed?
AbergeleBlue {Ed025's Note - there are rumours..but its just that at the moment..rumours..

23 Jan 2012 00:42:03
Everton are linked wid wes morgan from nottingham forest posted on twitter. anyone know anything about him? Tru

Good defender but Leicester were heavily linked with him

I live in Nottingham seen him play a few times. He isn't that good he is huge but slow. Just look at Notts Forrest defensive record this season its terrible.

23 Jan 2012 00:56:37
Everton are going to sign Alessio Cerci on loan until the end of the season