18 Sep 2018 11:48:50
As the post mortem on Saturday seems to be continuing I thought I would add the simple truth: TOO MANY CHANGES! Yes it is complicated, but the facts are simple. We have changed too many things in such a short time. I am not blaming the manager because I feel he is taking us in the right direction. But we have been a victim of: 2 sending offs. and thus suspensions. Injuries to 7 1st team players. Players coming back from injury who the manager feels should start. Young players trying to force their way into the team. Tactical changes. All of this adds up and the team that played Saturday did not look like the previous weeks team and that one did not look like the one before that etc. We need to get our players all back and let the manager pick the same team for a few weeks running. Then we will know what our squad is really like. We have been very unfortunate on a number of issues, but compare it with last season and the run of games that bored us all to death. We are a WORK IN PROGRESS. Anyone who expects instant success is just being silly in my view!
18 Sep 2018 14:52:29
Well said work in progress the summer was good business but people have to remember it was his first window and we probably shifted a lot more out than I though we woul be able to and made signings I didn’t think we could get.
A lot of Silva/ Brands signings have not played much yet and some not at all, I just hope Mina can be are powerhouse at the back as I think it will help Keane, holgate and zouma better we need a leader back there, we got bullied on Sunday.
18 Sep 2018 17:06:25
What is worrying though is Zouma and Gomes are on loan, while Mina has a buy back clause in his contract, that’s three players we have no control over.
{Ed002's Note - There is control over Yerry Mina - "buy back" clauses do not m,ean that Barcelona can simply pay Everton and they have to send him back. Plus, given the outrageous price Everton paid for him I don't see any chance of him going back in the short to medium term.}
18 Sep 2018 17:53:10
Excellent post degsy mate, too many managers on here, once we get the injured and suspended and settled in with the newbies we will climb the table, give the guy a chance this won't be fixed in 6 months.
18 Sep 2018 18:48:21
I'm sure ed will correct me but isn't the buy back clause about twice what we paid for him so something about 70 mil I for 1 hope Barcelona wish to try to use it because if he's playing good enough to warrant that fee it will be good for us.
{Ed002's Note - It is rather less than 70M in whatever currency you are thinking, but it is nothing to worry about, nor nothing to even think about. I would not think they would be interested when Everton come to sell the player on.}
18 Sep 2018 18:53:37
Cheers ed.
18 Sep 2018 21:45:06
On Gomes, I believe Barcelona wanted permanent deal before agreeing to loan, so even if he is successful we probably will be able to sign him. Problem is if other teams come in for him. Zouma may seek permanent transfer after seasons end. Depends what Chelsea can off in terms of 1st team football.
19 Sep 2018 17:13:37
I’m probably late to the party on this but if the penalty is a point deduction then what is the maximum number of points that can be deducted?
{Ed025's Note - i dont know to be honest CT..
19 Sep 2018 17:50:41
Thanks Ed. Sorry I realize I posted this on the wrong thread.
{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..
19 Sep 2018 18:05:53
Again I may be wrong but if memory serves me right didn't Luton get docked 30 pts for something along these lines many years ago.
{Ed025's Note - dont say that james...i was thinking 2 or 3..
19 Sep 2018 20:09:23
It was bugging me so had a little look into It they were docked 30 pts but 20 were for insolvency problems
That was added to 10 points they were docked for illegal payments to agents so hopefully worst case 10 pts.
{Ed025's Note - still far too much james, it would be hard to recover from a 10pt deficit mate and the pressure of being rock bottom hard to overcome....slap on the wrist im hoping for..
19 Sep 2018 21:25:04
Same here ed but I can't help but fear the worst at some point they will make an example of someone and with the previous we have and the other ongoing issues I feel we could be the example I just wish that it wasn't going to drag onto the new year and I hope it's given the club the jolt it needs to get things in order and start to do things the correct way.
{Ed025's Note - lets just hope they give us a hefty fine and warn us about our future conduct james, im sure our legal team can bribe the panel as it wont be the first time a brown envelope has passed their way mate.. :)
19 Sep 2018 22:54:06
Well we were also the honorary (and one of very few) recipients of the retroactive diving ban. So I’m sure we can expect something great.