Everton Rumours Archive August 14 2013

14 Aug 2013 22:37:42
Italian website reported this morning we bid £7m for Marrone, any truth ed? {Ed025's Note - not that i am aware mike..

Hope so! We need more bodies in the middle!

It said Juve insist on selling for £10m, not sure how reliable it was though.

Hope not I watch and know a lot of football but I have heard little to nothin about him

You obviously don't watch or know enough then, he stars is a European Championsip winning Italy u21 first team, and is one of the hottest prospects for the nation's most elite team.

Apparently the bid was lodged 2 days ago, I for one would love this player, he has a lot of potential and he is young, great player

Rich84

15 Aug 2013 10:43:50
If he is such a good player and a hot prospect for the future, why would Juve be wanting to offload him? surely they would prefer the player to progress with them and bring back the glory days to Juve? Not having a pop or anything at the player because I do believe he is good, but does he have something in the closet (like drenthe) anybody know anything? CraigHuytonBlue

I know a lot of things Craig, my knowledge is vast and incomparable but I couldn't possibly share it all with you.

Is that you, God? I knew you were a blue. Any chance you could do a bit more giveth and a little less taketh away in this transfer window? Cheers big man. See you Sunday.

Have u seen Juve's central midfield? Have a look and then ask why they wanna off load him

Rich84

14 Aug 2013 20:55:41
Not sure why people are comparing us to Norwich, Cardiff and the like.

We have got rid of Hitzy, Neville and Mucha.

In their place we brought in Alcaraz, Robles, Kone and Deulofeu. That is an improvement in the squad and by some way.

The one main area we struggled last year was up front and also genuine competition at the back after Heitinga's loss of confidence. Both boxed off.

In the centre we should see Barkley come into the squad now and in preseason he has looked outstanding. If Deulofeu can move into there though as cover I'd say we pretty much have our squad for next season.

And I would take that over anything outside the top four have.

Good post although I think we need another deep CM to complete the squad then fifth is attainable
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15 Aug 2013 08:33:17
Agree we have bought in players to add numbers but othe than the young Barcelona lad we haven't really added any quality at all. Alcaraz will spend most of the season in the treatment room, Kone is not good enough. Barkley has the promise and I love his attitude, he is tough as well as skillful but he still gives possesion away far too much. Give him time and we will have a top class player. Top 10 is the best we can hope for I think this season.

I think we need another cm as well I know neville wasnt the best cm but he could play there if we were desperate so we have lost 2 cm and brought none in

14 Aug 2013 14:35:11
I see are predicting Everton will finished 17th. One place below Cardiff. Do those people ever have anything sensible to say?

Let's people think like that mate. I fell we will climb up to 4th.

They made a mistake. They've got Sunderland for 17th. I guess they mean 7th for Everton. One place below Liverpool. So that's at least 2 mistakes.

We won't finish near 17th but won't come anywhere near 4th. Between 7th and 10th is probably where we'll finish, realistically. A good cup run would be nice though

14 Aug 2013 15:35:45
Let them predict what they want mate, results count, I love them all underestimating us

Degs

Poster 3 why will we get worse and go mid table so far we've kept the same squad added new players and youth breaking through and a more attacking minded manager

I am worried a little by Liverpool if they start well, usual 5 suspects up there plus us and the reds. All about first 5 games for me, if we start well this season could be exciting. slow start and everyone will doubt Martinez tactics and I fear he is not experienced enough to keep the heads up through that.

Let them think what they want to, 17th is a joke as is 7th really, I think we are going to go one or perhaps two better than last year so 5th or even 4th if we get a bit of luck.

There's no way on earth we'll get 4th. Spurs have strengthened considerably along with the RS (with more likely on the way), and Arsenal will be up there as usual.
It looks like a season of 'transition' is in store for us with some highs and probably quite a few lows. Seventh is likely the best we can hope for, though I wouldn't rule out Swansea to be competing for top 6 as well.

7th or 8th for me

Rich84

14 Aug 2013 18:33:56
We won't finish in the top 6 this year, top 10 at best. I expect a dodgy start, flirting with relegation until April and a scrape in.

We need to relegate Kone to 3rd choice striker and get Victor on there. Spent the whole of last season building up confidence, looked powerful and scored some decent goals. No looks like he is going to be back on the bench! Well let's see what happens on Saturday, away to Norwich.could be embarrasing.

I don't mid being written off, it'll make it even more impressive when we finish top 6.

To the one who said the red rubbish have strengthened considerably they have brought in the same amount of players as us but lost downing shelvey spears and probably rat boy and the players they have brought in I have never heard of

Not a chance just keep tight at back and we will push on again for Europe top 8 easy

14 Aug 2013 12:27:45
The Express are reporting that Toby Alderweireld could be on his way to Newcastle as he prefers to play in England rather than Russia. It is interesting to note that they suggest he is looking for a net salary of £2.5M a year, which as far as I work out is around £70k a week gross.

For the BK haters and doom merchants perhaps excessive wage demands are the reason we have not signed him rather than having no budget to do so?

Yes but heitinga is on £75k per week I believe and he is a rubbish whiney *******. So sell heitinga, get TA in and save £5k per week on wages and have a player who wants to play
Cheeks

£2.5m a year equates to around £50k p/w. Heitinga is on around £55k, that's why we're finding it difficult to get him off our books because not many will pay him these wages.

Yes it does, the key word here is "Net" after tax.

I stand corrected, I failed to see the NET in the OP. Assuming he came to us he'd want to be our highest earner along with Fellaini- therefore it's not looking likely.
Still, my point about Johnny5 stands.

Its way more than £70k a week gross. don't forget most of his earnings will fall into the 50% bracket

I feel we 're missing out TA. Johnny will stay. Felli go. We have to buy def.mc. replacement and 1 att.mc.

I stand corrected forgot it is the 50% bracket. So it is going to be nearer £100k a week then?

And to the poster with the point about Johnny H yes valid point mate.

It goes to show just how difficult it is to buy a quality player, huge wage demands agent's fees and such like besides the actual transfer fee itself.

14 Aug 2013 16:47:39
Yeah, my maths is only ok, but I get it at £115k a week gross. that's a lot for a player of his quality! I would forget about him and try and get Eric Dier back. Looked quality in the u20 tournament this summer

We have some great defenders coming through the ranks, look at stones and Duffy, would we be limiting the likes of Duffy chances for another season if we bring in players on our top wages, he has gone out on loan and will end up not fitting in. any new signing would have to play if we are spending that type of money. I don't believe the rumours we have money to spend and think we have realistically 1 more player to come in for up to 8 mill. CM or striker would be more beneficial to us IMO

Totally agree with you about Dier, I'd take him, looks like a quality player and one that could well flourish under Robbie. Along with John Stones that could be the CB's sorted for years to come.

14 Aug 2013 19:10:01
Duffy is the future, excellent player, we could also take another look at Dier, RM would be more receptive than dithering Dave.
I also believe John Heitinga should be given a decent chance under the new manager
AJ

14 Aug 2013 20:34:51
Eric dier is a great shout! Although I feel cm is the more pressing issue. Heard a rumour that the new city manager doesn't haven't Rodwell in his plans and is looking to offload him. I'd prefer that will Hughes of derby county though.

DV

14 Aug 2013 08:18:03
BK in the RM press conference stated that RM in his interview said he would get us into the champions league (No Preasure), and that he would give him a few quid to spend in the transfer market (usual theatre dramatics) Although I do believe we don't have a bad side this season even if LB & MF happen to be sold I've got to agree with the majority that 5-6 million spent or whatever the single figure is is not putting your money where your mouth is champions league talk.

Baz

Ha, I first read this as Left Back and MidField which ironically is still right.

Same (first commenter). I kept reading left back and midfield, before realising I was wrong, then realising it makes no difference

14 Aug 2013 01:26:47
I think a lot of people have been down about the betis performance me included but before this game most people have been positive I thought we played well against Blackburn and we didn't disgrace ourselves in any game in US. The thing about the Betis game was they pressed us high up and didn't give our defenders a second on the ball so it was hard to play it from the back into midfield, the more I have thought about it we played 4 at the back and maybe a 3 at the back maybe better suited to playing this style when getting pressed making it easier to bring the wing backs into play rather than having a flat back 4 and the only pass on is cm or a long pass to ST we don't want Mirrallas coming to deep either. Just a thought I don't claim to be a tactical guru I suppose it's just something us fans can't help but think about I am sure Roberto knows what he is doing and I think we have got to expect a few teething problems changing style. What I will say is fellow blues is if we get beat against Norwich it doesn't mean we are going to get relegated nor if we win means we are going to win the league I just think some supporters need to be rational.

Gibson and Duffy both Tweeted at 5am on the morning of the game that they were suffering from jet lag. I watched all the preseason games and was generally impressed until the Betis game. I think jet lag definitely played a big part in Everton's flat performance and I'm confident that you will see a different display on Saturday.

14 Aug 2013 10:04:16
Robbie I think there are a few reasons for the negativity at mo, I for one not convinced RM can 'teach an old dogs new tricks' in relation to style of play/ball control etc. We have also the lack of real quality coming in prior to the season starting and then there's the on going Felli/Baines bore story to UTD. If we start to get a few of these problems sorted then many of us might become more happy chappies!

14 Aug 2013 11:10:51
I think you are a bit harsh, jet lag playing final game in hot temperature and 90% humidity would have made any team look tired. I think some fans expect too much too quickly, it takes time to adapt to a new manager, new coaches and a new system, let's get behind the boys.
wellzee

Spot on Robbie & Wellzee

Robbie, I don't know where you get your 4 at the back on Sunday.There were times when the only defenders we had were Jags & Distin.The two fullbacks were getting caught too far forward far too often.