Everton Discussion posts

16 Apr 2024 15:21:46
Well no announcement today so obviously they are going to stick with this clown.
Now will he make changes for the Forest game? Will he change formation?
Lets face it you could drop both Young and McNeil and they wouldn't be missed. PLay two up front, bring Gomes in and play him in the centre, at least he can pass a ball. Have Onana, Gana and Gardner in the middle, and bring Godfrey in for Seamus.
If DCL still injured play the young kid and Beto up top.
Got to start having a go at teams, especially at home.

{Ed025's Note - if you think he will do anything different Brass i think you will be disappointed mate, it will be a war of attrition again with negative tactics and square pegs in round holes, Dyche has run out of ideas...and hopefully time..

16 Apr 2024 15:46:57
I know you are right Ed, but as much as I want to walk away from this shower of s**t I can't. Bloody clubs like a drug, you know it's not good for you but you still spend all your money and come back for more believing it will get better.
Hate it, hate it, hate it.

{Ed025's Note - im in that same boat Brass, they do my bloody head in and as much as i hate them mate they are and will always be my team, they do frustrate the hell out of me though and i must admit i have given up trying to defend them, just another day in the life of an Evertonian i suppose..

16 Apr 2024 13:16:23
Travelled all the way down to Stamford bridge 4 hours on train meets me cousin whose chelsea fan so before match bit of banter few pints having a laugh then goes into the away end watch match then it just goes downhill i honestly think that has to be worse match i have ever seen just got absolutely
got mullured all over the pitch no fight no passion just nothink absolutely horrible 34 years old and am watching this dross i knew we might not win but to lose in that manner is absolutely not acceptable now another 4 hours on train home.

16 Apr 2024 13:26:57
The players should reimburse all travelling fans for that one.

16 Apr 2024 13:43:45
Definitely BB just got absolutely battered and how we set up to play a tactic that we can't play sums it up just offered nothing mate.

15 Apr 2024 21:58:15
I believe most of us have been patient, however, at this point, after a shambolic display, we need to clean house as soon as finances allow it.

15 Apr 2024 22:08:41
Beat Forest
Beat Brentford
Beat Luton
Beat Sheffield Utd

I don’t feel we can do any of that. If we can, we should stay up. Why does it feel like we are rearranging those deck chairs….

15 Apr 2024 22:43:03
What a shambles, I honestly don't know how we can be so crap. It's like it is ingrained in the players, fans aren't suffering enough, luton got pumped so we better go one better. I actually felt slightly positve going into tonights game, chelsea's defence. We will sit deep and not give much away. No let's self implode and give as much encouragment to our rivals as possible. Someone save us please!

15 Apr 2024 22:54:14
Can’t see us winning any of our remaining games.

Dyche doesn’t set the team up to win a match, he sets up to try and draw. He has no plan B.

The players look knackered yet don’t get why.

No fight, no effort, no spirit and they all look like individuals rather than a team.

Appears he’s lost the dressing room and players can’t be bothered either.

Absolute shambles and club deserves to get relegated for how poorly it’s been run for years - however the players will get new clubs, the owner will make some money it’s only us the fans who will suffer - diabolical.

15 Apr 2024 23:33:10
I just can’t see us beating any of these teams. Not while Dyche is there.
All these teams will come at us, and we will fold, because we only have one way of playing, and all these teams know that.

16 Apr 2024 07:54:38
Whats up with DCL now? Just look at our goals scored and that says it all.

16 Apr 2024 09:04:21
You don’t score goals if you only play one striker and hope to score from set pieces. All teams know every free kick we aim for Tarkowski. Mark him and the free kicks are pointless. We are so predictable it’s easy for teams to play against us.

16 Apr 2024 10:49:44
That’s why I asked what’s up with DCL.

15 Apr 2024 21:56:37
I know we haven't got the money to sack him but what let's just waste more money and sack him anyway, at least us fans will feel happy for once.

15 Apr 2024 22:02:24
Isn't he on an 18month contact? £2.5m a year? Can't be that much to get him out. I'm almost up for Niel Warnock at this rate.

15 Apr 2024 22:10:23
Warnock won't leave Aberdeen for us.

15 Apr 2024 22:22:28
I was trying to think who from the coaching staff could step up until the end of the season. I can't think of anyone who stands out.

15 Apr 2024 22:25:15
If he was still there, which he isn’t, he would.
Plenty of managers would join us because they’d be well paid to do so. Go down, they can say it was a sinking ship, keep us up, they’re a hero.

15 Apr 2024 22:44:25
Didn't realise he left Aberdeen already. Still think the New York City manager would be a decent appointment. Lifelong blue, season ticket holder til he went to USA, already put himself forward to manage us. As a fan he knows what the club should be doing, what the fans expect and hopefully he could bring that to our team. Dyche just wants to defend and counter attack. Yet wants to break forward with wingers even Keane could out run.

15 Apr 2024 23:34:08
Well we won’t know if we don’t try.

15 Apr 2024 23:37:51
Warnock left Aberdeen weeks ago. I'm not trying to start a pro Warnock thing by the way.

15 Apr 2024 08:28:18
Freaky results at the top end of the division, the bottom end went OK for us, so let's see if we can get something tonight, i'd settle for a point, as we will still have a game in hand. Coyb ?.

15 Apr 2024 16:06:12
Just been looking at the table, on current points per game Luton would finish on 29 points and from the remaining fixtures, they took a total of 4 points from those games earlier in the season again leaving them on 29 points. So in theory, and with a big dose of optimism another 3 points could see us safe providing we don't get more points deducted.

15 Apr 2024 00:59:50
Great going Tommy Fleetwood. Maybe he can buy the club?

14 Apr 2024 17:19:51
Meeting tomorrow apparently 777 with Andy Bell and George Downing saying they may demand ownership of our new stadium as payment for their loans so far, put this post up re Bell and Downing a couple of weeks ago looks as though it might be happening, what a bloody mess our Club is in.

14 Apr 2024 17:51:15
So give away our best asset? Yes that’s really going to help us move forward.

14 Apr 2024 19:12:33
How did it get to this mess, when Moshiri took over he was going to be our saviour, now well Nightmare comes to mind.

{Ed025's Note - it beggars belief GB..

14 Apr 2024 20:16:09
I shudder to think what GrumpyToffee would have made of all this Ed mate.

{Ed025's Note - he would have renamed himself...Even Grumpier Toffee GB, I still really miss him mate..

14 Apr 2024 21:29:17
Sorry GB but that makes no sense.

Moshiri is still our owner so not sure how a meeting between 777 with Andy Bell and George Downing can make a decision regards ownership of the stadium?

It’s up to moshiri what happens not 777 nor Andy Bell or George Downing.

14 Apr 2024 22:06:41
Agree Gingerdan the may demand but the are unlikley to get what the want.

15 Apr 2024 00:55:48
Grumpy is truly missed.

14 Apr 2024 20:49:54
True Ed the guy was brilliant.

15 Apr 2024 05:18:04
Gingerdan it is about converting MSP considerable loan (that 777 cannot repay) into equity and yes Moshri is involved.

15 Apr 2024 11:08:28
But that wasn’t what the original post stated.

Moshiri wasn’t even mentioned.

Not sure why 777 have to repay anything to MSP as they aren’t our owners - surely it’s up to Moshiri to either pay that loan back or make a deal with MSP

Absolutely nothing to do with 777.

They may have significant loans to the club but that’s all at the moment - makes no sense why they are being involved in any discussions that is nothing to do with them.

They’ve had 7 months to complete the takeover so clearly something isn’t right somewhere for it still not to be ratified - time Moshir moved on from them and tries to find someone who is willing to purchase us and has the funds and means to do so rather than these chancers 777.

15 Apr 2024 17:54:41
Well said Dan.

12 Apr 2024 12:23:18
An article in the guardian regarding our finances is very worrying indeed. Sourcing funding from offshore lenders at an interest rate of over 10% shows us how much FM and his cronies have taken this club to the brink. If points deductions are still to be a punishment in the next few seasons then we will be starting on negative points for most of them. If we survive that is.
We are flirting with administration which, in turn, will see us relegated at some point. FM needs to do the right thing, for once during his tenure, and open up the bidding for new owners. 777 have already shown that they don't have the required funds to buy us and move us forward, we need someone that can, with time, turn around the finances and get us away from our financial woes. FM has almost ruined our club.
What's annoying is that the Premier league's own fit and proper persons test actually doesn't mean too much. I mean in the sense that it will weed out those without the capital to be able to buy a club yet they can't tell how stupid a person with plenty of cash can be.
Any chance of some good news for once, rather than more doom and gloom every day?

12 Apr 2024 12:32:09
The Esk has put forth three options for the takeover as he explains the third one: “Minimally require an immediate cash injection of £340–360million (assuming £80-100million to Laing O’Rourke) by 777 Partners to effect the takeover. If the conversion of loans to equity require refinancing elsewhere within the 777 Partnership then the cash requirement is likely and reasonably calculated to be over £500million.

“Option (iii) provides a stadium worth considerably more than the debt owed to MSP but (a) the stadium is not complete and requires additional funding and perhaps more importantly (b) the stadium’s value is entirely tied up with Everton’s future solvency and capacity to play there in the future and in which League or division.
Acquisition of the stadium alone, does not solve Everton’s liquidity problems and may arguably push Everton Football Club Company Limited into balance sheet insolvency, as without the stadium its liabilities are surely greater than its assets. ”

Further to my above post, this is what The Esk has to say on our finances. It's a stark reminder of how far we have fallen since FM rocket into town. Sad days.

12 Apr 2024 09:37:21
Walking dog this morning with me everton bobble hat on and van pulls next to me so driver says blimey youse have been awful this season so i said yeah we actually have so said to him by the way whose you're team he said tranmere rovers and drove off can only be supporting the blue boys hopefully we can go stamford bridge monday and put a 90min shift in i would take a point right now maybe 3 the way chelsea been playing won't be easy that's for sure UTFT??.

11 Apr 2024 22:26:28
With the latest points deduction am I right in thinking we have 2 weeks to appeal?
Could we wait and see where we are after our next 2 games before we lodge an appeal. Only saying this because if we get some good results and results go our way would it be more beneficial for the club/ players knowing that the situation is done so they don't have the added stress of it along with keeping all of us lot happy.

11 Apr 2024 22:32:42
Think we only have a week to appeal and the club have been clear that they intend to. Such a mess.

12 Apr 2024 12:36:37
I don't think we had a choice but to appeal mate. Forest have already put theirs in, if they are successful then they will get some points back which wouldn't be too good for us. It's worth a try although I'm not sure on what grounds we have a case for appeal.

14 Apr 2024 14:02:04
Get something at Chelsea, and we move well towards safety. That’s step one. Many more problems in the background.

10 Apr 2024 13:33:03
Hi all, new to the site and have a/ many questions regarding the takeover.
As I understand it, if 777 cannot repay MSP's loan by Monday the 15th of April, MSP will be able to aquíre a 51% stake in the club.
Is that a bad thing? As MSP look like a far more competent outfit than 777. Any more info on this Ed/ fellow toffees?

{Ed002's Note - It is not quite like that. The debts need to be paid or renogotiated. 777 Partners want two of the MSP team to join their bid and are happy to trade part of the stadium to do this. There is no 51% but MSP can convert their debt in to equity in the stadium.}

10 Apr 2024 14:28:46
Thanks Ed. Do you think there are any other groups waiting to come in when/ if 777's takeover fails?

{Ed002's Note - There will be a few vultures circling.}

10 Apr 2024 14:56:08
Presumably if MSP have equity in the club/ stadium it’s in their interests to ensure the club succeed, both financially and in a sorting sense? So wouldn’t this be a good thing?

{Ed002's Note - There is no question that anyone involved will want it to be a success.}

10 Apr 2024 15:56:29
Welcome to the madhouse scottishtoffee ?.

10 Apr 2024 16:26:35
I can assure you this is no pleasure dome Scottish Toffee.

10 Apr 2024 17:34:02
Relax PGP, it's not like two tribes are going to war. (I'll get my coat! ) ) ?.

{Ed025's Note - love it Mocker..

10 Apr 2024 19:41:06
I see 777 have requested more time, what a shower of .

{Ed025's Note - Shite is the word you are looking for ST..

10 Apr 2024 19:48:04
Hahahaa thanks Ed, wasn't sure of the rules.

{Ed025's Note - if you put it ST it would be deleted mate, Editors have special privileges.. :)

10 Apr 2024 22:23:27
Don't worry Ed in future it will be referred to that "S word that Ed025 used".

{Ed025's Note - good idea that Mike...personally i dont give a s***.. :)

10 Apr 2024 22:33:26
MSP coming on board makes sense to me.