Everton Banter

16 Apr 2024 11:40:18
Well I'm still gutted by that display last night and have read, and listened to a load of podcasts.

Everyone is asking for SD to be sacked but I personally can't see them doing it due to the sacking cost and no-one in their right mind will take us on. So we are left with him until the end of the season.

I've also thought about formations and personally don't think we should change that either because if it was a 352 we'd probably have Keane playing (God forbid) and our wing backs would probably be Myko and Young. One is crap at going forward but can defend and the other is too old, too slow, can't defend and can't go forward. So what do we do?

I'd stay with the formation and play Myko, Branthwaite, Tarks and Godfrey (just for pace alone) , then Gueye, Doucoure in a middle 2, with Danjuma (left) , Harrison right, leaving Gomez as a number 10 and Lewin upfront.

To be fair to SD the whole team are rubbish and it's difficult to pick players but Mcneil needs dropping as he offers nothing at the mo and may be the kick up the arse he needs.

Really worried for Saturday and was before last night horror show.

What do you think team wise?

16 Apr 2024 13:04:49
You're correct about Mcneil's form but having read what the lad is going through at home and still playing for the shirt (he works hard for the team) it takes amazing courage and in this wretched season for me he is already our player of the season and deserves all the encouragement we can give, well done Dwight, stay strong mate.

16 Apr 2024 13:32:16
I'll never call a player out for effort if they're giving it 100%, McNeill does appear to try hard for the club. Great sympathy for anyone going through what he is, but he's part of a bigger problem, the players we've recruited simply aren't good enough. Fans are wondering why we're not playing expansive attacking football, it's because we don't have the players to do so. When we go down, which of our players will be snapped up by Premier League clubs? Two or Three?
Dyche is doing what he does, granted, not as well as he was at the start of the season. Anyone that watched yesterday can be in no doubt that we are in big trouble. We cannot change the squad (yet) but we can, and must, change the manager.

16 Apr 2024 14:50:18
Reflecting on games earlier in the season TB, there were much better performances, footballing and results wise, something has radically changed both from a managers/ coaches and players perspective.
The way Dyche sets up, typified again last night, is tactically clueless. To set up with effectively only two in midfield, one of which imo is a luxury whose workrate and application leaves a lot to be desired, resulted in being totally over run by a Chelsea midfield of four combative players with energy and pace ably supplemented by fullbacks who run passed both McNeil and Young as if they weren’t there.
This resulted in our back four being pulled out of position and quite honestly Chelsea looked like scoring every time they attacked. Their superiority was supported by Pickford who has never controlled the six yard area but now fails to catch any shot directly at him and resorts to pushing the ball out into dangerous positions.
We need to control the midfield to ensure we never suffer another abysmal performance and in this respect I would play Garner, right side, with Gana, Onana and Gomes, playing either Harrison or Danjuma as support for hopefully a fit DCL.

{Ed025's Note - yeah that was very weak last night Fancy, it looks to me as though the players are not buying in to this negative approach of Dycheball mate...and why would they, i also agree on Pickford who makes the odd decent save but then he presents the forwards with a second chance by parrying the ball back into the middle of the fray which then gets put in the back of the net, i cant think of one player who had even a half decent game myself..

16 Apr 2024 15:06:14
Sometimes I wonder if I am watching a different match to everyone else?

16 Apr 2024 16:03:09
You thought we played well Brass?

16 Apr 2024 16:20:27
No I thought we were bloody awful, I didn't see anyone giving anywhere near 100%. And as for McNeil his performances of late have been very poor. Now if this is as a result of what's going on in his personal life then the manager should take him out of the team.
We don't need him or Young in the team as neither are wingers. I mean when was the last time you saw either of them beat a man.
Play two up top and get Gomes in behind, at least he can pass a ball.

16 Apr 2024 17:03:59
Pickford has been playing some kind of sweeper keeper for half a season now and I've wondered why no commentators have ever picked up on it. He actually was man of the season for the first 25 games. Some unbelievable saves. He's been told to do that sweeper nonsense and he has a big ego on him and gets cocky. He was found out but he is far from a problem for us. I'd not have any problem selling him either as I think any top flight keeper is good enough with a decent defence but I'm not going to throw him under the bus for 1.5 cock ups last night. All keepers get embarrassed a few times in their career. If their keeper did that, none of our players would have scored, it'll rolled out for a throw in.

16 Apr 2024 17:10:07
3-4-1-2 for me.

Pickford

Godfrey Tark Jared

Harrison
Gueye
Gomes
Mykolenko

Garner

Beto
DCL.

16 Apr 2024 11:34:04
If we survive and I get the feeling we won't unless we start looking like we're fighting. I think Dyche will go. Although I wouldn't mind graham Potter, I think we need Harry Potter to fix this mess!

16 Apr 2024 17:05:47
What's this constant Potter dreaming? He isn't coming to us. If he blew out Wham how the heck is he coming here? I think we need to do a Bournemouth and get us a European up and comer with a lot to prove.

16 Apr 2024 18:19:48
How about get Bournemouths :)

{Ed025's Note - i do like Iraola Woburn, but they are really on the up and also have great owners mate...so why would he want to join a club in disarray like ours knowing he would have a very weak squad and no money to spend?..

16 Apr 2024 19:40:01
I was joking Ed, jeez you really are stressed out mate. Have another large brandy, works for me.

{Ed025's Note - sorry Woburn all my fun has been washed down the drain mate, my smiles are now frowns and im as funny a Michael McIntyre now mate.. :)

16 Apr 2024 09:36:59
See Deli Ali is off the television pundit team. He's pulled a muscle in his tongue apparently and will miss the rest of the seasons shows.

16 Apr 2024 13:08:15
Good effort Woburn lol.

16 Apr 2024 08:29:49
When Dyche was brought in I think it was to ensure we wouldn't be in a relegation battle again this season, and to be fair if it were not for points deductions that would have been achieved. However since Docoures injury we have been terrible and that has not changed since he came back. I don't see the value in sacking him now and still believe we will stay up this season. The problem is next season, we all know we are going to have to sell Brantwaithe and Onana at least . Hopefully we can reinvest some of this and get some young hungry and pacy players, with this in mind we need a manager with a track record of giving youth a chance . Don't know who this is but a big summer ahead.

16 Apr 2024 08:52:59
You really believe we can beat Forest, Luton and Brentford. Based on what?

16 Apr 2024 09:55:00
I think two wins will be enough personally especially if one of them is against Luton, I know we are playing crap but at home with the old lady rocking I think we will just do enough with the games we have left . It might be wishful thinking but there it is.

16 Apr 2024 11:04:14
Whatever you are taking I want some ST. It must be powerful stuff. I wish I could find faith from somewhere.

16 Apr 2024 11:32:27
I definitely don't see us beating Luton away. Forest at home I think a draw at best. We look like we've given up and just waiting to be put out of our misery!

16 Apr 2024 08:09:10
Embarrassing and inept, this team got ripped apart from the first whistle with one of the worst performances I have seen from an Everton team in a long time. I have supported our great club since 1967 and cannot remember a season when I felt so depressed about a team, when I constantly think where are our goals coming from, when will we get another point and more importantly when will we get rid of our manager who is totally out of his depth. We need to rip this team apart. I can see at least 6 who need to be sold and we need young players who wish to play for us, who can actually play football and of course we need a manager who has ideas and can implement them. I am sorry to say but I think we are going down this season, but it just might be the best for us. Rebuild and hopefully come back a better team who deserve to be in the PL.

16 Apr 2024 08:55:05
Agree with most of what you say. But relegation is never a good thing, and definitely not best for the club.

16 Apr 2024 09:39:09
The reality is, if we had our points back we would more than likely be safe. Yes it's not pretty to watch! Hopefully if manage to beat the teams beneath us we will stay up! Its a big ask but it's in the players hands now. The performance last night was awful. It makes you wonder if the player's know more than we do? They weren't playing for the shirt last night. My biggest fear is that we will go into liquidation.

16 Apr 2024 11:17:12
Stop talking absolute nonsense. Going down will be the best thing for us are you nuts or something. Going down could be the end of us for ever. Going down will never ever ever be a good thing. We want to stay up move stadium get rid of this plonker and get a proper manager in who will steer us through the next few seasons then the sky is the limit. Everton has a lot going for them but relegation isn’t one of them. Can’t believe you think going down is good. How are we supposed to pay for anything if we go down. Stay up sack this twit and move on. Relegation means administration bankrupt no more Everton. Wise up its attitudes like this that’s causing the problems. Just get a manager who has an idea about football. Last 5 managers have been bad bad signings and the fans wanted them. Lampard Dyche and tbh some people on here are a joke yous cried to get Dyche in. Ed25 was his biggest cheer leader you reep what you sow guys.

16 Apr 2024 11:59:41
The task was survival and he who I can't name is doing that. As pointed out add the points back and we'd already be safe. However who wants to turn up tune in and blankly stand sit and stare at this game after game. We don't have a top 6 squad but we definitely have a top 12 one and with a much more pure form of football we'd at least have a dozen or so games a season where we can be half proud to be an Evertonian and have some matches where we actually deserve our points. SD has given us 1 game. Yes facts 1 game last season against Brighton. Everything else has been negative communist repression football. No. its not football. Last night post match he was banging on about "make a tackle" looked to me that some of our players were trying to hurt Chelsea players with some very bad tackles. This isn't why I like football and this isn't football anymore. We are a touch melancholy as a fanbase and we've always swung to "it's over were down" it's been the reason we as a fanbase got Koeman and Silva the sack prematurely. We have and always will be capable of beating the drop but not like this. It doesn't have to be this.

16 Apr 2024 07:39:08
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool v Crystal Palace - A Quick Liverpool Perspective

16 Apr 2024 04:03:47
If that's all we have to offer then we'll struggle next year in the championship.

Dyche should have resigned straight after the final whistle. He talks the talk but unfortunately that's all he does.

It doesn't matter who takes us to the end of the season as I think a Sunday league coach would get them performing better than SD can.

I can't see us picking up more than 4 points and that won't be enough. No fight, no skill, no natural striker and no pride in the shirt.

UTFT NSNO.

16 Apr 2024 06:54:43
We have to be the worst run club in England.

16 Apr 2024 02:24:09
Not looking forward to weekend after that performance. Gibbs white for forrest will tear us a new 1 az he poseses the qualitys of a player we don't have and that's pace skill and creativity. and worst is he chose forrest over us if I'm correct. i'm sure someone will let me know if I'm wrong. Forrest are showing fight and team spirit. has SD lost the changing room or is it just rumours? . proper fed up chelski have 1 decent player stop him and they are rubbish. we just let him do whatever he wanted great tactics that sean? 🙄.

16 Apr 2024 06:14:09
Yeah you're right Ron, should have just put gana on and told him to mark him all game. Onana and garner never work in midfield I don't know how Sean hasn't worked that out yet.

16 Apr 2024 17:05:05
Because he is too stubborn or just stupid 🙄 I'm fed up going into work and having the piss taken. I don't mind banter but we are just a laughing stock from top to bottom. was moshiri sat with anyone from 777 cause i think they will just mortgage the club till the hilt if they eventually get hold of it.1 pist off bluenose.

16 Apr 2024 01:45:46
I didn't think I would ever say this but I would take Red hair back if/ when West Ham can him.

He knows the club. He knows the fans. He can work on a s*** budget. He can turn a sinking ship around. He can win football matches.

Save us David hahah!

15 Apr 2024 22:38:44
Can anyone understand why he keeps playing Young? And leaving him on for the full game, he should voluntarily step down now.

{Ed025's Note - amen to that Uran..

15 Apr 2024 23:26:00
Maybe Jack's had a word and said boss if your going to play useless tactics leave me out.

15 Apr 2024 23:28:21
Young shouldn’t even be at the club. When are we going to stop playing once we’re players, and actually get some young talent into the team.

16 Apr 2024 06:18:25
Young gets a game because Harrison has been genuinely woeful. If you look at stats young makes more successful crosses and gets into the box far more. Harrison's heat maps show he's not in the box most games and he might make 2 crosses. I'm not saying young is great but when Harrison is the alternative I can see why he gets played.

Young covers 4 positions as well so overall he's a good utility player with in tiny squad.

I agree he shouldn't be starting and should just be used as cover but it's not his fault all the rest are even worse than he is.

16 Apr 2024 08:57:51
Young is crap. End of.

15 Apr 2024 22:02:37
Ed25 think we're done think we go unless something changes were not good enough.

{Ed025's Note - unfortunately Bretto i think our time is up mate, and do you know what, this club deserves exactly what it gets...but i feel sorry for the supporters who have spent a lot of time and money watching this crap show for a long time now, they deserve better..

15 Apr 2024 22:57:03
Try keep your head up chaps, I think you beat Forest at home and youll put up a fight in the derby which could go either way. Then you should beat Sheff united (if you don't you deserve to go down) which leaves a big game against luton which will be tough. It'll be bumpy but hopefully Forest, Burnley and Sheff are the ones to go.

16 Apr 2024 08:59:47
I bet you Salah (who at 300k a week has been abysmal) will score a hatrick against us.

16 Apr 2024 11:58:47
Bad ownership has been the problem. Did anyone see Carragher's speech on the tv tonight? If there is any truth to what he is saying it's very scary. Apparently 158 Million has to be repaid to MSP before midnight. If not paid does that mean we could possibly go into administration? If that's the case the future doesn't look good does it?