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16 Aug 2018 22:45:20
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16 Aug 2018 18:23:27
Early days yet but what's everyone's opinion on what is deemed a successful season?
Personally I think we have to finish 7th but I want us to look at one of the cups this year, so many off the top 6 don't care about it and I don't get why, they are so determined to get champions league. Winning a trophy is so important that's what you play for to win things, even a league cup. That's what we want right to win trophies, you don't get remembered for finishing 2nd, 3rd or 4th.

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16 Aug 2018 19:18:10
I think 7th could be attainable considering our challengers for it, i.e Leicester (sold their best player) and Burnley (Europa league distraction) will be wide of the mark this season.
Maybe someone like a Newcastle or Bournemouth could have a good season.
Other than that, I'm struggling to see anyone who could get really close.
It's up to us to gel and play as a team. If we do, with our quality, we should be looking at 7th at least.
Arsenal have Chelsea next, and if they lose could have their confidence knocked. Couple that with all their new players and manager and they could struggle to make top 6.

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16 Aug 2018 21:15:46
10th to 7th. It's going to take this season to get the squad working how Silva wants it and the next two windows to replace any players who don't fit.

I've got plenty of patience for the people in place.

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16 Aug 2018 21:19:58
Think we have a good chance of finishing in the top six myself.

{Ed025's Note - oooh bit early for talk like that GB, i would love it to be true of course but im forecasting nothing until after christmas mate..

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16 Aug 2018 21:41:26
If you to know what a successful season would be, it would be prem champs and both domestic cups won, but I'll settle for a good cup run and a euro place.

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16 Aug 2018 22:08:00
Everton have been waiting years for Marcel and Marco to arrive.

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16 Aug 2018 22:41:50
Hard to beat will do for me this season with plenty of goals.

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16 Aug 2018 17:51:32
not posted for a long time. Fat Sam made it too depressing to even care sometimes. going to my first home game in nearly 5 years (travelling up from plymouth) . my wife's first ever home game- can't believe how excited I am! COYB.

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16 Aug 2018 18:37:36
Enjoy DannyP.

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16 Aug 2018 18:08:44
Well I said earlier on that I expected Holgate to step up a level and be involved more this season before a ball was kicked. At 22 he has all the attributes to be a top defender. I can see him developing into another John Stones and probably playing alongside him for England. This leaved the manager with one of those luxury problems of who to pick to start at the weekend. I believe Holgate deserves to start after his performance last week. I also expect us to absoultely batter Southampton and this is coming from negative Degsyp. But that is really how I feel. Now we have the players in, I can only see us getting better and better. I hope I am right!

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16 Aug 2018 19:22:31
Hope your right Degsy. I think Keane will keep his place, too early for Mina so, it's between holgate and Zouma to partner Keane.
I too think we will be too strong for Southampton and I'm saying, optimistically, 4-1.

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16 Aug 2018 10:41:34
I'm really looking forward to the weekends game against Southampton, I think we can gauge abit better now we are going to do if we can keep 11 players on the pitch, I'm hoping for a good performance, plenty of goals and none conceded.
Will be interesting to see the line up, personally, aparts from jags, I think the team will be very much the same, hopefully couple of new ones on the bench.

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16 Aug 2018 16:46:54
With you there mate, good luck to the lads.

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16 Aug 2018 06:23:05
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 16th August 2018

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15 Aug 2018 15:12:33
Nice interview with Brands talking about the transfers and deadline day and the challenges faced how Yerry wanted to come but other clubs made offers but we persevered with the original offer on the table
Also talked about the support from the chairman with everything going on, so another thank you to Mr Kenwright.
And was gracious in thanking the team around him like legal and the support staff who headed to Barcelona, I think we lose sight at times of all the others involved

So thank you all for delivering a great window and renewing our optimism in the season ahead.

Over to you Mr Silva and the team! COYB!

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15 Aug 2018 15:50:33
Nice postman.

{Ed002's Note - Cute buns?}

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15 Aug 2018 17:01:56
Our postman is really ugly,
Scares the heck out of our dog.

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16 Aug 2018 09:12:30
Nice to see that Brands will be no pushover over with transfers. Although I expect the "just get it done, why do we always take so long over transfers" brigade probably won't be too happy.

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16 Aug 2018 09:32:06
Different kettle of fish our management Team now eh mategood post.

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16 Aug 2018 13:13:42
Just goes to show. Papers write crap to sell newspapers and know almost nothing. Brands is obviously a knowledgeable football man.

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16 Aug 2018 18:14:50
He is the real deal, and I believe Moshri wanted him right at the begining.

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16 Aug 2018 18:16:19
I totally agree but with every appointment and signing it’s only judged on results.

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15 Aug 2018 12:07:34
I am not trying to say I have any the facts around FFP, in fact my knowledge is pretty poor and I will hold my hands up to that!

but what I do have knowledge of is how to grow business and market shares and more often than not it is much easier with money than without it (unless you strike lucky)

The Manchester clubs Chelsea, Liverpool etc have become global brands through clever marketing and success on the pitch at the minute we don’t have success on the pitch but that doesn’t mean we can tap into the markets it will be slow but everything has to start somewhere!

To my understanding is all of this will help in the future towards creating a bigger pot of money which is consistent through FFP rules through increase annual income

Shirt sales
Increase capacity
Increased Corporate sales
Match day income
Season tickets
Ground sponsorship (naming rights)
Increase revenue through short sponsors and match day boards,

It all adds up if it’s done right, my main point on the last post is that I don’t believe it has been done right for ten years and we have missed opportunities to increase our income through being loyal to other companies regardless of cost.

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15 Aug 2018 15:02:40
I have written to Everton several times asking why I cannot but a shirt in JJB for example as all the “big” teams shirts are sold there. To limit our shirts to the shop or on line is ridiculous as we are missing out on lots of sales. Thinking about it, I never had a response from the club which in itself was poor. We definitely need to up our marketing to maximise our income.

{Ed002's Note - It is not a surprise that the club has not replied, it is nothing to do with them. Retailers will stock shirts from the clubs that will sell the best - and that is a simple matter of good business sense for them. Additionally, Everton are not missing out on any money from those sales - as the money would not go to Everton. To try and stop Everton fans getting further muddled and misled over income from shirt sales, I will explain. The money from shirt sales goes to the manufacturer (Umbro in Everton's case), the distributor and the retailer, who can make extra adding numbers and names to the shirts. If the club are the retailer (club shop, club website etc.) then they get the retailers cut. The manufacturer (Adidas, Umbro, Nike etc.) pay the club an amount each year which allows them to manufacture and sell the shirts using the correct logos etc.. That is how they justify the money given to the club. So if you walk in to a high street store and buy a Liverpool or Arsenal shirt - nothing goes to the club. There are a few clubs that have negotiated different deals with manufacturers (Real Madrid with Adidas and Barcelona with Nike are the two obvious examples) based upon joint reselling ventures. So the income from shirts is fixed to the £xM or whatever Adidas, Nike etc. pay the club plus a small amount for reselling through the club retail outlets (shop, web etc.).}

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15 Aug 2018 15:23:38
It does need to be done right and the main thing to unlock a lot of those will be the new stadium which is being worked on but is a long process
Since arrival Farhad’s team has worked on quicker wins shirt sponsorship revenue has increased with Sportspesa Angry Birds
We have sponsorship of finch farm there was an article about the sponsorship increases a while back
Also Sportspesa deal brought more brand awareness
But also while doing all this we are still doing wonders with our charity work
If yiu reflect back I am sure you can see we are on the journey so let’s enjoy it.

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15 Aug 2018 17:42:22
You can’t buy a shirt in JJB for two reasons. Firstly we use Kitbag which means online and clubshop only with the exception of a few authorised retail concessions. Secondly JJB went under about 4 years ago.

The Kitbag deal runs out next year unless it’s renewed. I’m guessing that as this was an agreement prior to Moshiri investment then its renewal won’t happen, fingers crossed. Then hopefully you’ll be able to buy an Everton shirt in any Sports Direct up and down the country.

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15 Aug 2018 18:02:41
Thanks as always Ed02 for the explanation although one from the club to explain would have been appreciated also. I was under the impression. That the deal we had with Umbro did not allow for the rubbishs to be sold at independent retailers but obviously I was wrong
Cheers.

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15 Aug 2018 18:10:36
I don't see the problem with just buying it from the club?

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15 Aug 2018 20:52:29
It’s hard for those who aren’t local Johny. Ok you can order online but what if your unsure of the size, fit etc. It really is annoying going into sport shops and seeing everyone’s kit except ours.

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15 Aug 2018 21:50:51
Cheers Toffee ace. That was the point I was trying to make and if kids want a top and ours is not available well well .

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16 Aug 2018 00:31:38
Good point about trying on and fit so here’s a little solution try another kit on who use the same manufacturer fit should be the same fit
Then order the one yiu want . simples!

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16 Aug 2018 09:17:37
Ed002 the point I would make about Kit sales is if you limit your retail exposure you may limit your negotiating options when you renegotiate your deal with the manufacturer.

{Ed002's Note - Large retailers will only stock what they know they can sell. There are simply never going to be sufficient sales of shirts for Premier League clubs where their fan base predominently comes from the local community (Everton, Southampton, Watford, Brighton, Cardiff etc.) so there is little point in a high street chain stocking such kits. There should be no problem buying the Everton kit from the club shop or online from the club (in both cases helping the club out) or online from elsewhere (e.g. Umbro). You could also likely go into any independent retailer (like Elite Sports in Hitchin for example) and they will order it in - although there would likely be a premium to pay as they will simply order it from Umbro. And Everton has already started negotiating a new kit deal so that will be resolved soon.}

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16 Aug 2018 10:08:36
Ed002 Two things:

How do you know about Elite Sports in Hitchin?

I can see where you are coming from re larger retailers stocking certain club kit however, by limiting the market you will find it difficult to grow sales. Should Everton actually start winning trophies there would be a natural increase in the fan base and therefore may well be a need to supply the larger market outside of the local area. I do agree that currently we do not have a fan base large enough to warrant a change to the current arrangement but its certainly a point worth considering for future deals.

{Ed002's Note - a. I am omnipotent. b. As you say if Everton were to be successful then there might well be kids from further afield that would be interested in the club and the kit - and maybe at some point you will be able to pop in to Sports Direct in Stevenage to pick up the latest Everson Champions League kit.}

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16 Aug 2018 10:23:03
I buy through the online store, usually once a season.

The issue with the current deal resulting in poor availability from a fan perspective is really being swept under a sorry looking rug here by some, ala ST, because there's a bigger financial impact then a mere sizing hurdle.
International postage through the Everton store + currency conversion can only be described as expensive.

As an international, I'll also add that my last 3 from 3 orders had missing items and the 'pre-order' on the 3rd kit that wasn't advertised at the start of last season had me waiting 10 weeks for the kit.

The real joke is it was Klassen Kit too 😂😂

Anyway, I'm a fan of the Moshiri direction. I can't wait till the new team get stuck into improving all aspects of club sales tbh.

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16 Aug 2018 10:43:40
If only.

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16 Aug 2018 11:36:58
One of the problems EFC will have when they eventually make their shirts available in the high street again is that large retailers will have zero sales history over many years to gauge how much to buy. If Everton are still using Umbro then that might not be too much of a problem. But it becomes a whole lot different if they are supplied by a more premium brand like Adidas or Nike. For a Sports Direct or a JD they have to earn the right to stock these brands. Harder for SD than JD. so as far as their current arrangement goes it really hasn’t helped if they turn to the high street again in the near future.

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15 Aug 2018 12:05:00
Ed001 has created a new site which is a humorous Football Player Top Trumps type site. It is on our Player Ratings site if you want to take a look.

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15 Aug 2018 21:23:34
Brilliant Ed001 loved the Mike Bassett one, guys have a look if you get chance.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, glad you enjoyed. It will be regularly updated in the future.}

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16 Aug 2018 10:12:20
Mike Basset for me to Ed001 but you need to do a bit more research on TNMT.

{Ed001's Note - I know, I have never really liked them. About all I know about them is the names of the 4 turtles and I only know that because my ex had 4 terrapins that I used to call by those names. She used to get really annoyed about that for some reason, but the names she had chosen were crap. And she blamed me when they died, said it was because I was trying to train them to be ninjas. Which isn't true. Well ok I might have tried to train them a bit, but that wasn't why they died. I hope.}

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15 Aug 2018 10:33:39
Morning Ed’s, who do we still have on our books who are no longer at the club (Rooney, Koeman, Allardyce etc) ?

How long until we are clear of them? Ilwill it take a season, two or even more?

{Ed002's Note - We are no longer dealing with anything related to the finances on the Everton page.}

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15 Aug 2018 14:10:09
Shame.

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15 Aug 2018 15:53:44
I see you have kept trying at times ed. I see a load of blue writing and think oh god someones asked about finances haha. Tbf you have a nightmare with it on here.

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15 Aug 2018 06:31:43
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 15th August 2018

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