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26 Apr 2018 22:36:24
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26 Apr 2018 12:47:25
Should be interesting the meeting tonight taking place in London with Sam and Moshi, should have a clearer indication of where we stand next season in regards to management.

The first piece of the jigsaw for me in regards to the team itself, is starting at the back and especially the left back spot.

For me Kieran Tierney should be the top of our list of signings, no more gambles, go for quality over quantity, even if it means bringing only three or 4 in, we need to get those quality signings in.

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26 Apr 2018 14:45:29
bignev can I ask how you know the meeting is tonight as all I have heard is there is a meeting this week I really hope Moshiri does the old thanks but we will be letting you go in the summer speech or it's not you it's me Sam I want someone else.

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26 Apr 2018 17:06:00
I don't understand if true why he has to go London to be told thank you but no thanks sam we are moving on without you. So we're has the rumour come from.

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26 Apr 2018 17:22:29
Been all over the local news Monday saying Sam has been called to a meeting in Londay on Thursday evening with Moshi, I would have thought it would have taken place after the match, but for whatever reason, it was pencilled in Monday afternoon for Thursday.

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26 Apr 2018 17:59:23
Cheers Bignev.

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26 Apr 2018 18:05:16
I hope SA pays his own rail fare lol. I don't care where the meeting is as long as the outcome is a handshake and envelope :-)

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26 Apr 2018 20:01:41
Disagree about Tierney, how can you call someone who is playing in that league quality? the only test they get is in the Champions league and they were poor!

hopefully BIGSAM will go to West Brom and we can get in Pardew/ warnock/ o'neill/ phil brown/ tony pulis because this is what we'll end up with.

does anybody know how much money Mosheri has actually put into the club? The figure we have totally spent is approx £200mill BUT we have sold Lukaku Stones Cleverly Duelofeu for 160-170mill plus a couple of extra little sales!

is he fleecing us?

{Ed025's Note - i would say not SDS, besides the buys wages have taken a significant hike and debts paid, a lot has been invested in the youth and training set up,s as well mate...its not cheap running a football club..

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26 Apr 2018 20:44:34
Not to mention pay offs for brown shoes and koeman, probably paid Southampton a fee for him as well, money seems to be Been spent but we aren't necessarily using it wisely.

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26 Apr 2018 21:35:07
Allardyce is in London to discuss how much transfer money he has to spend. Moshiri is there to suggest which club it will be with.

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26 Apr 2018 22:07:11
FM hasn't put his own money to specifically buy players. EFC was saddled with long term debt and various charges against the stadium, income from TV money etc that was limiting ability to grow. FM's money has injected capital to remove all this debt and provide the club with working capital. It is the club that buys and pays for players out of its own resources in the main. The money spent on the squad would not have been possible without all the money put in by FM to clear the debt. It's not in the accounts as a loan either, so there is no expectation that the money put in, need ever be repaid. People who question FM's commitment need to pull their heads out the sand. Te guy stepped up to the plate and put his own finance in to the club without further need for borrowing or more debt.

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26 Apr 2018 12:34:42
We are safe. The club needs to come out and say that they are thankful for the hard work and efforrs of SA, have enjoyed working with him but seek to part ways and appoint another manager for the season. Tell SA personally first and wish him the best of luck. Then hopefully we can all support him for the last games and give him a pleasent send off. There can't be any other way for me.

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26 Apr 2018 15:19:56
That would definitely be the classy thing to do. He's done his job I'm thankful for that, but make the announcement now so we can support the team and manager for the last 3 games.

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26 Apr 2018 20:33:54
The players would stop playing and the away fans would have a field day. Far from a good send off he would be embarrassed.

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26 Apr 2018 12:26:22
A thought about how the Everton fans' current dissatisfaction with the club and its hierarchy is being criticised by media pundits: loyalty is a consequence of leadership - and leadership is a touchstone of competence.

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26 Apr 2018 10:32:08
What'd be the point of giving Allardyce another year?
I've seen no evidence (be it the team's performances under him, the proposed transfer ins and outs, his comments to the media and attitude to the fans) that make me think that it wouldn't be anything other than another wasted season - and that the next manager will have an even bigger mess to clear up.
I appreciate that this forum doesn't include every Evertonian, but is there anyone amongst the genuine fanbase that actually wants Allardyce to stay?
FM/ BK must give clarity and leadership regarding the future of the club - please!

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26 Apr 2018 11:13:07
Agree totally with you BobbyC. It would be a complete and utter waste of a season.

It's long past due that FM and BK sort out this mess.

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26 Apr 2018 11:44:06
The point of giving SA another year is that it sees out his contract which means no compensation pay off. Why would the club waste money when they don't have too. The only way I suspect the club will be forced to get rid of SA early is if season tickets sales take a big hit. You can whinge all you want but I suspect the club don't really take much notice of forums like these. However, a big chunk of lost revenue would be a completely different matter.

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26 Apr 2018 12:16:01
I'm not the typical big Sam hater that is on here but I still don't want him to stay next season. Main reason being I think the long term prospects of the club will suffer.

I'd be concerned about his treatment of the younger players. Since he has come in, Vlasic, Lookman, DCL, Klaassen, Sandro and Holgate have all been brushed aside.

These are all players in their early twenties. Coincidence? I think not. I can see why the board might want to keep him as he is good at steadying the ship and would have a good platform built for a new manager in terms of a team that is ready now.

Still I don't agree with it. I'm as angry as anyone with the style of football. It is atrocious. The fact remains it looks like we are going to finish 8th. That's what the board go on facts. In the survey here a few months back a very small minority voted us finishing 8th. Vast majority voted 12th to 15th.

Even with the atrocious football to achieve this does people not see this as a positive? After all at the time of the survey people thought we were guaranteed to finish bottom half. We all know the football is terrible to look at.

I have a feeling if big Sam even is here next season he won't last until the turn of the year. The backlash of the fans will be far too much for the club and they will be forced to act. Just my humble opinion on big Sam there.

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26 Apr 2018 12:51:02
I can see SA being here next season as well, not sure if a back lash from the fans is the best way to go about getting rid of him though. We have already got rid of our last two managers by being vocal on match days. Not great reputation to build. The question is if we get a reputation of being a club that gets rid of managers regardless of contract length we may not get any decent managers wanting to join us. We made a rod for our own back with two poor decisions. The first getting rid of Koeman in panic. The second hiring SA and not giving Unsworth a decent amount of time to turn the results around. Having said that we don't actually know if the club are actually happy with SA or not so all the speculation may be pointless.

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26 Apr 2018 13:18:33
Sa90, you say no compensation if he stays, what about a couple of managers who are available this Summer who will be available without paying another club compensation.

What we save by keeping Sam, we could end up paying another club Compensation next season if those managers get attached to another club.

We should be a lot wiser after tonight’s, meeting in London and should make for an interesting gossip on here Friday.

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26 Apr 2018 14:19:54
League position should have nothing to do with it. The points total is more important and we are currently on 45 versus 61 last season.
If we win all our remaining games we will have 54, not a bad return for Sam but we have to win our last 3 yet.
Then you have to take into consideration, have the performances improved over big Sams tenure, we can't expect him to work miracles but the performances for me, are the same, if not worse.
Benitez last week played Slimani because he knew they were safe and said he wanted to know if he was worth keeping.
why Sam hasn't started doing that with Vlasic, Klassen and Baningime is beyond me. Is he going to watch them in pre season and get a better idea of what they can do than he will in these last few games? doubtful.
it smacks of a man who knows his neck is on the line and jsut wants to grab enough points to stay in a job.

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26 Apr 2018 15:01:36
bignev you are presuming the managers management want are going to have jobs. If they have got any sense they could put the respective applicant on a retainer if necessary. Hopefully we will get an insight to what may happen tomorrow after the meeting. I also agree with you Smitt666 I think SA is well aware of what he needs to do to put the onus on the board regarding his future, in that respect he is a clever business man.

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26 Apr 2018 15:28:38
get a new manager in and keep sam, someone will be daft enough, ie wba to buy him out of the contract.

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26 Apr 2018 10:20:00
Everton - neither the club nor its fans - have any entitlement (whatever the history and traditions - and the financial involvement of Farhad Moshiri) to be successful or to be become a "big" club once again. It will take a massive effort - on and off the field - to challenge the current "big six" domestically let alone the European "super giants".
However, to listen to some media pundits, we should be happy to settle for mediocrity and be ever so humble and grateful that we have Allardyce. It's as though we - or any other club - should not have the ambition to aim for the stars and dream of glory. How patronising is that? We were patted on the head when Moyes supposedly had us "punching above our weight" and now we're being told, in effect, to "know your place".
If pundits' jobs were results-based (like football managers) , then how many pundits (with their incorrect predictions, poor analyses, inane comments, and general ineptness) would survive?

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26 Apr 2018 12:07:16
I totally agree Bobby it makes my blood bubble that pundits say we should be happy with 8th and should be even happier with Sam as he saved us from Relegation which is so far from the truth it's unbelievable now me I want us to win the league I want us to win cups that's what our history demands of us and it's been too long coming but we also have to be realistic if a new manager comes in he needs time and us fans need to be patient because our club needs stability at the same time Moshiri and Bill need to have learnt from there mistakes and this time make the right appointment we as fans will be patient if 1 the team put in 110% and 2 we can see signs of improvement both of which have not happened since Sam came in.

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26 Apr 2018 12:31:20
Pundits chase there own tails season after season, they are as fickle as fans most of them and they are all bias. Too many ex liverpool players as well.

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26 Apr 2018 09:06:58
If SA is kept on and I pray to the almighty he is not we may forget about football until August 2019.

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26 Apr 2018 10:28:04
I understand what you say billy but as supporters (as important as the Club sees us - and all Clubs do) the majority of us have no real idea of what goes on behind the scenes and how Allardyce comes across to the majority share holder, executives and all the Staff. The players do seem to indicate they are happy.

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26 Apr 2018 10:38:02
Haven’t you realised - SA is the almighty. FM/ BK should beseech him, “Let my people go! ”.

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26 Apr 2018 18:11:04
I hope Morishi has noticed what the others over the park are doing. I hope he thinks "I want that for Everton too". Then I hope he thinks "Can my present manager deliver it? " Then I hope he think "nah get rid"

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Review Of The Day 26th April 2018

26 Apr 2018 07:30:04
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 26th April 2018

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26 Apr 2018 07:19:21
The scary thing I keep seeing is players keep saying since Sam arrived they've been more settled. Is a settled ship enough to see Sam stay at the club. Personally I really can't see him staying. Yes players seem settled but that happens when the results come in. Admittedly they aren't great results. I think Mr Moshiri knows he has to go and I think he will. It's going to be another unhappy season next year I feel with Sam and boring boring football. Or whoever comes in has to settle first then find his bearings working out tactics what best suits Everton. All this with a new shortened transfer market and a World Cup. Whoever we get in if we reappoint has to hit the ground running. I hope the team can adapt. And we as supporters can't be impatient if the results aren't as great as we had hoped for. Next season will be super tough for us.

{Ed025's Note - i agree mowfee..

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26 Apr 2018 07:35:12
I agree too but we have to have hope and that means Sam has to go so that it raises the spirit within the fan base because I don't think it's ever been this low - probably only talking from personal experience but that's 50 years.

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25 Apr 2018 18:46:13
As most have read, some reports are now saying that Sam and Staff may well stay and fulfill their contract. I feel the same as most but let's look at it like this. If Mr Moshri does indeed have a long term plan then 18 months/ 2 years could/ will bring the stability that will help that plan well on its way. Looking at it dispassionately if we do manage to retain 8th place, isn't that a job well done on his behalf. The only question in my mind has been, could Unsy or Koeman have achieved the same if allowed to remain in post.

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25 Apr 2018 18:57:41
There is no up side at all to Koeman possibly staying.

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25 Apr 2018 20:07:53
Allardyce will only have 12 months left on his contract and that will no doubt cause issues with players downing tool next season if all doesn't start well. I can't see Moshiri letting that happen. He will either get an extension or the bullet.

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25 Apr 2018 21:45:03
If we do stick with Sam we stagnate for 12 months. We will find it hard to entice quality players with a manager who is going to manage them for 12 months, get off then be possibly dumped by the next manager. Players are looking for ambitious projects to be involved in with a clear plan and direction.

Also we would spend a fortune on players 1 manager is going to use then next year with a new manager we have turmoil again.

Stability must start THIS summer AND with a NEW LONG TERM manager. No ifs or buts.

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25 Apr 2018 21:52:53
There is a few managers that Everton could get this Summer, a window of opportunity which I feel will close if we wait until next Summer, think we need to strike this Summer.

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26 Apr 2018 00:29:46
Personally I feel that if we bring in Brands as rumoured then he will assist in the recruitment of a new manager which is why his role is the first thing that needs to be done.
I can’t see Sam remaining or working with Brands he won’t like that set up so I think we’d look for a head coach who would.

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26 Apr 2018 00:35:52
If it is true it is the biggest mistake Moshiri could make.
The manager is the most critical position in any club. It is the position, more than any other position, that you need to have the right person in place as he influences all the other roles within the club.
THERE ARE NO BENEFITS IN KEEPING SAM.
There is no increase in stability as people do not know what is going on long term.
What do we tell new possible players? 'We are going to try and stay mid table for a year or two and then get a new manager who can hopefully take us the next step. Hopefully the new manager then will want you so commit 20-30 % of your career to us'

To Klassen, Lookman, Vlasic, Ramires, Funes More of course you have a future - hasn't Sam shown you that

To possible managerial targets your not good enough now, Sams better, but maybe in a year or so

To the fans 'Of course we've got a plan to make Everton grow - can't you see it'
To the rest of football 'STOP LAUGHING'

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26 Apr 2018 00:40:33
I have a feeling Silva will be our next boss. We were desperate to sign him and he has yet to get another job. Read somewhere that a couple of clubs wanted him but he turned them down. May be true, may not be true. Just makes you think that he is holding out for the Everton gig.

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25 Apr 2018 23:41:39
No chance.

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25 Apr 2018 23:14:56
It makes little sense. Why risk it? What's more stable? A manager with 12 months left who is disliked (see questionnaire ahem)
Or a manager that is bought in afresh, with a tricky summer to assemble a few new faces and to be ready for pre season and all the optimism that should give? likely on a 4 year contract, nice and stable.

If we go this way ( I don't believe it for a second) we will surely end up missing out on a pretty healthy pot of managers looking for work. And when the inevitable sacking in November happens, guess what? We write off another season and end up well and truly being the chuckle brothers of the EPL.

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25 Apr 2018 18:07:34
This has little to do with Everton, or right now at least, but I've seen Arteta's name banded around for the Arsenal and Everton manager's job. Just interested if one of the Ed's knew why? Because he's had little experience as a manager but there has to be something there for his name to be mentioned. Must be quite the coach!

{Ed001's Note - because he is seen as being highly influential at Man City.}

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26 Apr 2018 00:30:46
I think Arteta would be great if working alongside someone like Brands.

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25 Apr 2018 22:29:59
Do you reckon he's good enough to manage right now maybe for us ed?

{Ed001's Note - not to manage, but as a head coach I don't see why not. Really depends on getting the right DoF above him then.}

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