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29 Mar 2017 20:49:45
Right the derby is on Saturday and yes it's Anfield the place where Everton go and freeze, players legs turn to jelly we mentally collapse there for some reason and that is fear I just hope Koeman smacks a bit of cop on into the lads on Saturday. Its time we started playing the game there and not the derby if we do that we will have a very good chance of winning COYB.

{Ed025's Note - i would love you to be right stef but my expectations are not very high mate..

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29 Mar 2017 18:38:51
This summer will tell me a lot about the ambition that Farhad Moshiri has for Everton Football Club. At the minute the club is looking fairly strong but will we kick on and sign Ross and Rom down to contracts and sign players who clubs around us are looking to sign and strengthen? We will see.

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29 Mar 2017 20:30:42
With all the ambition possible and with the best will in the world, Moshiri can't force players to sign contracts if they don't want to. Even if Rom and Ross left and no major names sign, it doesn't mean that we can't carry on building and improve over time. We have to have patience. We're not in the CL and it's a tall order for us to qualify in the next three years, so really top players with short careers are not going to see us as attractive yet. Let those who know what they're doing put their long-term plan into action without getting on their backs. The six clubs above us are still significantly richer than us and we have to spend hundreds of millions on a new stadium in addition to players' fees and wages. It's not going to be quick or easy but we're far better off than we have been for years. Let's just enjoy it.

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29 Mar 2017 08:01:18
Ed02,can you send any light based on the information available, as to whether Everton will ever actually end up the owning out right the potential new stadium on the bramley moore dock? from what I have read this far it sounds like we will be tenants on a long-term lease.

{Ed002's Note - I answered this a couple of days ago. The finances have yet to be bottomed out and whilst the club do not have the money to build the stadium themselves and don't have the credit necessary to borrow the money themselves, the local council will be acting as an effective lender. They will borrow the money and then rent the premises to Everton. Eventually, after the debt has been paid, it would be reasonable to assume that Everton and the council can reach agreement over passing ownership to the club - but right now that is many years away.}

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29 Mar 2017 13:12:18
I can't see what benefits there are to owning the new ground tbh. We aren't in a position to buy it so a deal is being arranged for us by the LCC. Man City for all their wealth rent theirs from the council doesn't seem to bother them so I don't care who owns it as long as it's as intimidating as the old lady, which let's be fair will be down to us to sort.

{Ed002's Note - The rent will be at the level where Everton will eventually pay the complete cost of the stadium so I would expect the club and the council to reach agreement over the transfer of the ownership. THis will become clearer when the finances are sorted out and Everton are in a decent position financially.}

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29 Mar 2017 15:01:33
We just got to hope it doesn't go like West ham, Southampton, Sunderland who all struggled when they moved stadiums. There probably be loads of others.

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29 Mar 2017 06:50:27
Funes Mori taken off for Argentina with knee injury last night anyone fancy playing in defence on Saturday?

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28 Mar 2017 21:53:16
Just returned from Camp and Furnace season ticket event.
Baines, Robles, Sharp, Sheedy, Snods Andy Stuart.
Once again our club puts on a decent event in appreciation of the fans.

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28 Mar 2017 21:27:00
Omg Geri just came on for Spain and won a penalty. It was a pen but he went done like he'd been shot. Didn't think he was anywhere near the Spain squad.

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28 Mar 2017 21:55:32
Then he scores and had a couple good runs.

Btw video technology sorted 2 decisions correctly. definitely the way forward.

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28 Mar 2017 17:50:32
Just following on from ed2 reply to degsy below.

Ed you really do know a lot about the ins and outs and dodgy (allegedly) dealings that go on in the world of football. Are you sure you are not sepp blatter or jerome francke (or whatever his name is) ?

Thanks for keeping us informed with this knowledge and advice.

{Ed002's Note - I can never be sure.}

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28 Mar 2017 14:43:57
In the summer I can see Ross signing a long term deal and staying and Romelu signing a deal as rumoured based on our achievements with but out clauses involved and still being with us next season.
In the summer it's very obvious we need a GK&CB. I think in goal we should be 100% targeting Jack Butland and paying however much necessary to get him, top top goal keeper and still very young.
Centre half there is a few more options, Michael Keane the obvious one, Ben Gibson been linked before but I don't think he is of top top quality and a long shot Van Dijk who I think we should be realistically targeting if we want to go where Romelu wants to go and make Champions League and be established there.
Many may laugh but I also think we should have a go at getting Martial or Mahrez cost around the 40 million mark but would help contribute to scoring goals and helping Rom out in that department
Oh and Gylf
I don't think we will realistically sign all of these players obviously but all should be targets.

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28 Mar 2017 14:56:07
I bet we have a list of players none of us have even ever heard of. Steve Walsh and his team seem to be good at picking gems up, as his track record proves.
He just had to be aware whether they can work with rk and in his style of play.

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28 Mar 2017 19:54:10
I think it's a huge summer for us. We need to get some class players in to bridge that gap between us and the top teams, or we're in danger of doing the same old thing of stalling while our rivals become stronger. Not only that, but we need to tie our best players down with lengthier contracts.

I think we're all in agreement in saying that we need a new GK and a couple of CB's. I'd also hope we strengthen on the wings and add another striker. I'm sorry to say it but our wingers aren't good enough. I like Kev, I really do, and on his day he is brilliant but that day hardly ever comes around. As for the return of Deulofeu, I'm not holding out for much. I really like the look of that Brandt from Leverkusen but I have a feeling that teams mix bigger than us will be sniffing around him. Despite Valencia looking good when he comes off the bench, he's definitely not the answer. I know it's very optimistic but I'd hope we are looking at players of the same calibre of Lacazette or Icardi to play alongside Rom if he stays because it is these players who can take us to the next level.

Obviously if we don't get European football that will prove to be an obstacle in attracting the better players but whatever happens I have complete faith in Steve Walsh because he is a top class scout and place all my trust in our brilliant manager.

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28 Mar 2017 19:58:13
For me the most important thing is keeping RK and SW.

I personally think Rom will stay another year beyond the summer because, if I ran the club, I'd have sat him and Ross down and said "we'll build the team around you, who do you want? ". Now we have the money to make that happen and I think both are waiting to see if we do it.

If RL scores against the lot over the park and we win, imagine the volume that his name will be sung at. If he leaves for a CL club he may not play every game so the question is does he want to be a bit part in a "big team" or a legend in a legendary team.

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28 Mar 2017 12:36:18
Not totally convinved with this new staduim lark - seems to laden us with more debt ( rent / lease agreements ) without actually owning anything as we currently owe moshiri 80mill plus to compete at the top we will need to invest heavily in the next few transfer windows.

As a businessman moshiri will help with the commercial side of things and generate money but foremost he will look after himself first - he owns half the club and he is owed 80 mill from us - where does it stop?

We need to quickly become self sufficient as my biggest worry is that in say 5-10 years when Moshiri has had enough what happens then.

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28 Mar 2017 14:13:49
Whether it's Moshiri, the club or LCC it is still going to cost to build a stadium. I wouldn't worry over the finances as We won't understand it anyway.

The club will only invest in something that is going to make money and be a sound investment for the club in the future and he is trying to increase revenues so that we ARE self sufficient.

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28 Mar 2017 16:43:21
We owe Moshiri because he paid off our debt interest free. This paved the way for us to go ahead with our desperately needed stadium project. FFP prevents Moshiri just handing over his cash so an interest free loan is the only way he could help us without being sanctioned, which could still happen if we get intoEurope as we will come under FIFA scrutiny.

Where do you think £300 million is going to come from? Staying at Goodison means we will never generate big club income. Moving to a new one will.

This is a shrewd plan made by a Billionaire accountant. Surely that deserves a little trust from us fans.

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28 Mar 2017 17:34:13
According to a boffin from manchester university it will be under water in 80 years time anyway due to the mersey rising with global warming. What a killjoy he is.

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28 Mar 2017 19:14:12
Couldn't care less what it costs. It's well outside my circle of influence. It's a step on the road to the success I want our younger supporters to taste. You've got to be enjoying the ride at present.

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28 Mar 2017 23:16:32
In 80 years time we can just say we have a purpose built moat around the stadium.

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29 Mar 2017 20:55:02
At that rate Southport should sink in around 5 years .

{Ed025's Note - it sank a long time ago jonno..

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28 Mar 2017 10:12:00
Hi Eds been thinking about the Rom situation and just wondering a few things how much affect on his value would the differance be between 1 year or 2 years left on his contract?
I was just thinking that let's say we play hardball and keep him for next year would potentially his value decrease be offset should we break into the top 4.
I think that yes it's dangerous to keep a player if he wants to go but in Roms case if it is for a big move he would still have to perform I was just wondering how it would balance up from a finance point of view.
From a team point of view I feel that lose Rom this summer we will struggle to replace but also another year and 3 transfer windows may make it easier in the sense we can bring someone in and they will have time.

{Ed002's Note - (a) His value would reduce and all leverage would be gone. (b) If the player is forced to stay he won't be happy and performances could drop - again reducing his value.

I think there is something in the water on Merseyside that makes everyone obsessed with the need for a period of transition for players and managers? Other clubs change players and managers on a pretty regular basis and get on with it. Liverpool constantly rebuild and have been in transition since 1987. Everton fans seem to want to hang on to a player even if he wants to leave and then have a year or even three transfer windows to replace him. You need to keep in mind that players are simply transient employees of the club James and it is best not to become too attached. The club are looking at replacement players already as I have explained - they screwed up with Manolo Gabbiadini in the summer and again in January and perhaps there is a lesson to be learned. They wasted a lot of time on Rachid Ghezzal who really was not going to make a move from his comfortable life in South central France to the grim and wet Northwest of England where there would be a significant cultural change and little chance of football at the highest level - when Everton should have been concentrating on Rafik Zekhnini (who they may look again at). Another lesson to be learned. Everton cannot wait around to see what happens and must be more decisve - they need to sort Lukaku and a replacement out as soon as possible.}

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28 Mar 2017 10:32:55
We'll said ED002. Couldn't agree more.

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28 Mar 2017 10:36:31
Don't know much about zheknini but he's scored 8 in 44 games for odd fc. They 3rd best team in Norway last season. Only 19 though so worth a look. Also Ed, what do you know about cyle larin from Orlando that Everton are meant to be looking at?

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any interest in Larin from Everton nor how he would be expected to gain a Work Permit in England. However, Besiktas has shown an interest in the Orlando player.}

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28 Mar 2017 11:00:46
Thanks ed. It was just in one of the papers this morning.

{Ed002's Note - It would be an odd one Geoff as I cannot see how he would get close to meeting the WP requirements.}

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28 Mar 2017 11:11:35
Cheers Ed sorry if I came across wrong not trying to hold on to Rom for sentimental reasons it's only for his goals.
I only bought in the time factor to give a new player particularly a younger the time to adapt without the burden of the expectation of them being a straight Rom replacement undoubtedly some may be able to and I have no doubts that Walsh and his team will find the right people I was just thinking of like a jansen or silmani that came in to the league last summer with big reputations and haven't delivered yet but I'd excpect them to be better next season.
When Rom does go and he will at some point personally he will be remembered as 1 of the best players I've had the pleasure to watch and I hope he goes right to the top.

{Ed002's Note - I appreciate he scores goals but that alone will attract the interest of clubs playing at a higher tier. He wants to play at the top level and would have agreed a new contract at Everton that might have kept him a little longer if they had offered an acceptable one - they didn't. The burden of expectation in the Premier League will be there regardless James. Fans get on the back of players and that doesn't help with performances - but to be fair the Everton fans are pretty forgiving with the players compared to others. Spurs and Leicester did not buy the likes of Janssen and Slimani to grow in to their teams, they were expected to immediately contribute to teh match-day squads. There is too much as stake these days for clubs to look beyond youngsters to be given time. Lukaku has certainly played well his whole career and one hopes that Everton will be able to strike a deal for a suitable replacement James. Take a look at Willain Jose who only joined Real Sociedad last sumemr but is attracting the interest of Everton and would probably be a better option than Dinamo Kyiv's Lucasz Teodorczyk - who Everton have continued to watch whicls on loan.}

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28 Mar 2017 11:17:01
We could sign him then loan him to besiktas (or another club) to gain work permit requirements. Other clubs have some done it before, I seem to remember.

{Ed002's Note - Being on loan won't help with his Work Permit Geoff - and it would make zero sence for Everton who have no loan structure at the club - just look how Shani Tarashaj is getting on at Eintracht Frankfurt.}

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28 Mar 2017 12:50:23
Scored 1 in 11. Not sure if he doing well or getting much game time but the club are doing ok. Mid table.
Willian jose looks a good little player. Scores against the top sides too. Scores 9 in 20 and actually made an appearance for real Madrid before they moved him on.

{Ed002's Note - Right, so Everton has no loan structure and Shani Tarashaj is simply kicking his heels in Germany. Willian Jose is doing well this season and could, for the right money, be an option that is achievable.}

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28 Mar 2017 13:28:01
Not sure what you mean about everton's loan structure. Like all clubs we loan players out to get game time. It's up to sw and his team to monitor this to make sure the players are developing with a chance of returning and incorporating into the first team or if not moving them on.

Teams like juventus and Chelsea have 40+ players out on loan at other clubs. This stockpiling of players is just obscene.

{Ed002's Note - Everton has no plan for taking players and developing them through a defined process, no plan and no direction. Shani Tarashaj is a good example, loaned out on the last day of the transfer window to anyone who would take him. Everton has not build a relationship with any other side to help develop players. I am not sure why you think having a large number of players out on loan by far better run clubs is "obscene".}

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28 Mar 2017 14:01:26
I think it's wrong to stockpile players when this talent pool can be spread across other clubs to make it a 'fairer' competition.
It's like Mercedes having the 5 best drivers on the grid. only being allowed to use 2 . just to stop other teams from having them.

{Ed002's Note - It is their business model and the fact that they are out on loan at other clubs who are helping with their development and benefitting from it makes it "spread across other clubs" as you suggest. You should be recognising this as the way forward. Your example is completely incorrect - the players are not sitting their doing nothing they are playing for other sides.}

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28 Mar 2017 14:10:54
I understand that ed and you are right but how many of those players out on loan from, say chelsea, will come back and get first team football there.
Lukaku is perfect example. Loaned out to West Brom then Everton and eventually sold for a nice profit.
Are these club treating these players like property to sell for a profit after a couple of years?

{Ed002's Note - Some of the loan player will be integrated back in to the first team squad - two or three this summer - some will leave to join the clubs they have been on loan at as better players - some will go elsewhere as better players - some will stay on loan with Chelsea. If they cannot settle (e.g. De Bruyne, Salah, Cuadrado) then loans, improvement and sales gets income for the club - but all were originally putrchased to play for Chelsea, not to profiteer on. If they don't make the grade after a loan (e.g. McEachran, Bamford) they are given the opportunity to restart their career elsewhere. If there are other reasons the club are not happy with a player or there has been any sort of intolerable incident then they are moved on (e.g. Lukaku). If a player makes unreasonable demands on the club (e.g. Solanke) then they are moved on. But critical to all of this is that there is a plan, there are relationships with other sides that see players develop and there is a structure & process in place that supports this. It works very well for Chelsea and others are seeing that it is a system they should be looking to.}

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28 Mar 2017 14:33:02
Very kind of you for that detailed information, ed.
Football has become more business and political than actually playing for the fun of it.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome Geoff. You are right about it being very much big business now.

Long gone are the days of the cloth-capped, hobnailed-booted, chimney sweep making his way, rattle in hand, to cheer on his team at Goodison on a Saturday afternoon before a few pints of wallop in the pub and home to thrash the wife and kids.}

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28 Mar 2017 16:01:51
Speak for yourself Ed002.I just gave the wife a hell of a thrashing for talking to me whilst I was filling the pools coupon! But on a serious note, I heard UEFA is discussing plans to stop the stockpiling of young talent and then loaning lots of them out. In a similar fashion to the fair play rules, they want to have a maximum squad size that includes loan outs. I thin Chelsea are one of the clubs they see as "stockpiling" young talent and making an "unfair" playing field. I don't remember where I read it, but it sort of makes sense to me.

{Ed002's Note - They have indeed discussed such rulings - and they know the downsides that a bunch of young players will lose their careers and when there is an eventual breakaway the elite sides will cherry pick the best of the rest of the players leaving UEFA, if they are still in business, with a far less attractive group of clubs. I should ass that this was originally the baby of Platini - who had a major beef with English sides and who knows their is an unpublished article related to him and UEFA (that a press agency is sitting on) that could have catastrophic consequences - so he won't be saying too much too soon.}}

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28 Mar 2017 23:22:27
It is indeed a strange one Ed and I agree that Platini is a bit of a hypocrite with probably some dirt on him. However, as an Evertonian I have the view that over 100 years of football tradition whereby any team could win any competition. and the roller coaster of clubs winning the league and FA Cup . not to mention European competitions laterly, went out the window when the first Sky deal was made. The so called top 4 will probably always be the top 4 because they bought into the scheme at the beginning. The FFP rules benefit the status quo and just make it difficult for another club to now buy into the "top 4". Man City probably just got in in time but I am not sure where it all leads.

{Ed002's Note - Folks won't change the rulings easily DP. If you are relying on the evil MF like MP you are F'd. Everton need to work to be part of the "top 4" as others do - there is no excuse in or out.}

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29 Mar 2017 09:04:48
Agreed Ed002. And I firmly believe we have the structure in place to have a good go at it. I just feel that the FFP rules actually hinder clubs with new rich owners. like us. Whereas before the FFP rules clubs like Man City and Chelsea had new rich owners who came in, chucked money at every aspect of the clubs. achieved the "top 4" structure which ensured regular extra Sky income over a sustained period. That in turn gave them world wide coverage that the rest of British clubs never got. Not just with Everton. great old clubs like Villa, Leeds, Notts Foresst, Newcastle etc were left behind. Everton were fortunate that they remained Premier League, but so easily could have slipped away like those I mention above. In the 70's Everton were known as the millionaires. That lasted a short while and other clubs passed us. I honestly cannot see clubs passing Man Utd on the rich list. nor Liverpool. Chelsea? Man City? Arsenal? It is almost like we are in a different League. But Leicester City gave me some hope. As Moshiri has . but particularly Bill Kenwright with his determination to bring in Walsh and Moshiri and get our structure in the best possible shape. I am currently crossing fingers, toes and any other bits of anatomy that I can cross.

{Ed002's Note - There is provision for a club with new money to use that money if they follow the process of informing UEFA by December 31 of the previous year. To the best of my knowledge Everton has not done that and to the best of my knowledge Mr Moshiri will not be throwing money at the club - there will be no £200M per window or whatever everyone was thinking. The commitment is to spend money on transfers but that money will come from the income the club makes from player sales and perhaps from the increased television income.}

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29 Mar 2017 11:42:10
Ok thanks Ed. I think I misunderstood how it worked then. I thought any monies had to be generated by "footballing" income. eg naming of training ground, naming of stadium etc. I did read a posting on here about a couple of years ago when Man City first got the Arab Emirates investment. Someone jokingly suggested they were going to sponsor each corner flag and the half way line. ie the United Arab corner flag 1, 2,3 and 4 etc. I do see that the likes of Man Utd have 3rd training kits sponsored and the likes. It sort of makes a mockery of the rules, which was the point I was trying to make. I think I do agree with the squad size limitation though. And minimum of home grown players. Not jusr because I am an Evertonian, but because I like to think a football club is exactly that. a club and not a business. Naive, I know, but I stillcry when I watch Old Shep movies. Guess I am a sentimenalist.

{Ed002's Note - Provision was introduced by UEFA to allow clubs a one off chance to spend new money.}

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