Everton Banter Archive October 09 2015

09 Oct 2015 09:46:57
Evidently 3 fellas with Eastern accents and riding on Camels have been arrested on the Westbound side of the M62, they were stopping motorists and asking the way to Anfield.

09 Oct 2015 18:12:22
Hardly the three wise men then. Followed a star? Followed a bleeding bottle more like! (Life of Brian)

09 Oct 2015 01:50:26
Roy hodson, is going to put liverpool back where they belong, no sorry, king kenney is, no sorry, brenden Rodgers is, no, klopp is going to put them back where they " belong".
They arrogance is staggering, the self delusion knows no bounds, and their seance of entitlement is gut churning.
The big club question, chelsea, arsenal, city, unt, have all won the premiership, liverpool, just like ourselves 0, where they get the idea that they are a big club makes you wonder what they have been smoking.

09 Oct 2015 02:26:37
Hahaha. Had a good chuckle mate. Just remember whilst we have one of the best managers in the world, you still have the spanish brendan rodgers.

09 Oct 2015 03:09:12
Red from the States in peace. Ill only ask you to admit that Klopp is a top top manager and we Reds have a reason to be excited.
Matt in Florida

09 Oct 2015 08:31:56
With one club yes. let's wait what he does with a struggling team.

09 oct 2015 09:07:16
see headlines now

kop flop klopp sacked, liverpool go for moyes
coyb

09 Oct 2015 10:15:53
Its not just a question of the coach 420FL its the cattle you put out on the pitch. 300+ million in under 3 seasons approximately 25 changes in playing personnel, no consistency, no ability to build a team culture,no sense of stability or game plan.

dilakh2 'spanish Rodgers' Martinez came before Rodgers if referring to Swansea connection and anyway RM knows how to build a team by regularly adding extra quality each transfer window and bringing in great youngsters at the right time.

No panic buys no waste of money buys and both he and the team have learnt from last season and if you don't learn you don't improve. What have Liverpool learnt since Hodgson and the rest 'money and constant change doesn't win you anything!' and so it will continue
wellzee

09 Oct 2015 15:58:45
I couldn't of put it better myself wellzee 👍

09 Oct 2015 18:16:42
Thats because we had the conman rodgers in charge wellzee. Hopefully it will all change with klopp. I was just laughing at the bitterness of the OP.

09 Oct 2015 19:01:22
I like kloop but let's see how much influence this idiotic committee you have continue too blow money on average players

10 Oct 2015 03:58:43
personally I think klopp will do well but can see this season being a struggle squad not strong enough

{Ed025's Note - im a big klopp fan coby, i just hope to god im wrong about him.. :)

13 Oct 2015 09:13:15
Klopp is a bit of an unknown. He's been at one club more or less and in a very easy league. The German league is similar to la liga in the sense you have two or three top clubs but then a lot of average teams. No one spends money except for the top teams and they always sell their good players.

In the prem every team will think they have a chance and can beat you. You can't rest players for any game unlike Germany and Spain.

All this is going to be new for him and will be interesting to see what happens. I like him but he is also a complete loon which may upset some at Liverpool as they've had it easy with Benda.

{Ed001's Note - he has been at two, and the Bundesliga is not really like Primera Liga at all. It was one top club, Bayern Munich, and the rest until Klopp took over Dortmund and changed that. If you can't rest players for any game in England, why do so many teams often do just that? This obsession over how great and competitive the Prem is has no basis in fact. It is more intense, but that is all.}

13 Oct 2015 12:43:00
I meant top club but I wouldn't hold up mainz 05 as success getting them relegated and then quiting when he couldn't get them up. He did get promoted and in the uefa cup but left when the going got tough. Pretty much the same as Dortmund.

I didn't say a one club league for the German and neither is la liga but you rarely get big teams suffering at the hands of smaller teams. In saying that who is really challenging Bayern?

I'm also not saying that the epl is the best in the world but the quality is similar throughout the league and because of that you rest players at your peril. Ask Rodgers he's been doing it this season and he's won how many? We had to do it last season and again suffered. Other teams in the Europa do it and suffer everytime.

I'm not saying he's a bad manager at either. I like him but don't be fooled he's this great messiah who's going to turn you into a great club again. He'll have to learn and quick!

{Ed001's Note - he spent 7 years at Mainz 05, hardly quitted when the going got tough as it was tough from the start! Again seven years at Dortmund, the going was tough a few years ago, but he stayed there for years after. Seems a desperate desire to pick out faults that mate. There are plenty of faults there, he is after all merely human, but that is not one of his.

Rarely get big teams suffering? You will find, if you actually checked the stats, that it happens about as often in Germany and Spain, the only difference is the number of big teams, so it feels like it happens less often there.

Quality is similar? Really? I keep hearing this but it is utter nonsense. How many Norwich players would get in a top 4 side? How many Sunderland players? Etc etc. Rodgers did not rest players this season, I have no idea where you got that load of crap from. He was simply a clueless buffoon who still did not know his first choice team. The reason teams suffer is down to a lack of good quality coaching and lack of fitness on the part of the players. If they lived like professional athletes, like they do on the continent, in the main, they would not struggle to play two games a week. The Prem is over rated, there is a lack of quality, that is why teams struggle in Europe and then come back and struggle in the league. The coaching is rank rotten and until it improves, at every level, English clubs will continue to struggle and blame it on other things, such as the Prem being too intense, or too much competition or lack of winter break. All of it is just to cover up the truly woeful level of the game in this country, with clueless buffoons like Rodgers getting top jobs.

I don't expect anything of Klopp, I just want to see entertaining football and a manager who doesn't spend most of his time in a tanning salon rather than keeping an eye on the youth teams etc. Klopp will have a big job on his hands, but there is no doubt he is a thousand times better than the guy he replaced, and that is all you can really ask.}

13 Oct 2015 14:15:24
He did quit when he got them relegated do it was when it was tough to be fair.

Again he left Dortmund after a couple of tough years but again I don't blame him as they basically sold his best players.

As you said there is less big teams in Germany and Spain which proves my point in terms of relative quality to your league.

I watch Spanish football every weekend not so much the Bundesliga I admit but some and the quality is really poor in the bottom part of both leagues. I love Barcelona but they only play for about 30 minutes for the entire match then walk around with the ball. It's not like the EPL.

Don't take my word for it anyway. There are loads of former players and managers not just from our league but others as well who admit to the demands of the EPL. It's doesn't mean we are a better league but the style and intensity of football is different and more demanding.

As for Klopp I like him and think he is a good manager but don't think he is the messiah because of a couple of good years with a good Dortmund team and you lot are not looking for good football you are looking for success. I think Carlo would have been better because of his experience and recent success.

As for stats: German league: 18 out of the last 32 titles won by Bayern 5 by Dortmund (2 of them with Klopp) 3 Bremen 3 stuttgard 2 Kaiser 1 Wolfsburg. Can you honestly say Bayern has any major challengers to their throne?

{Ed001's Note - why would I say that? I said that there was only one good team there, I also said the intensity is lower, but the quality is higher there and in Spain. If you watch teams like Villa and Norwich play, they have no quality, they just play with a high intensity, they are woeful teams, a few years ago they would have been lucky to be in the Championship, let alone the Prem. It is a crap league now. As for Carlo, check his record, he fails to win leagues as often as he should, he has the best teams, usually, yet only wins the league sometimes. I would choose Klipperty over him every time. Whether I am right or wrong to do so we will never know.}