Everton Banter Archive November 09 2014

09 Nov 2014 19:52:21
Watching Lukaku this season is making me think more and more that he may be an early developer, we have had these before, kids that look good but don't get better when they get that bit older. eg. Branch, Cadermatari, Jeffers, Vaughan. is Lukaku part of this club?.The last two seasons at WBA and us, he was terrific but this season he just looks poor, you learn the basics of the game as a kid, how to trap a ball and pass it, Lukaku traps it like a brick wall (Pinched that saying from someone else) he can't do the basics, and now at 21 he is'nt going to get any better, his movement is poor he dos'nt get into goal scoring positions, Last season and in the summer I knocked Naismith but boy have I ate humble pie this season, I do think he should be starting games instead of Lukaku, I really hope I am wrong about Lukaku because £28 Mill could be down the drain.

10 Nov 2014 00:07:21
I think Romelu has scored more premier league goals than all those players you mentioned combined. I mean fair enough none of them cost £28m, but I think he still needs to be given a chance, Martinez has said that he wasn't fit for the first couple of months but insisted on playing, so we probably won't see the best of him until later in the month. Look at what you said about Naismith last year and he's come good. Have faith mate, it's been a crazy season so far for all teams involved, we should see a return to normality by the Christmas period!

Humble pie Kirbo. How does it taste? Remember that because you'll be eating more of it when Rom let's leash at some stage soon.

10 Nov 2014 09:20:01
What do you mean at 21 he isn't going to get better? Drogba hadnt made his proffessional debut until he was 21, players are not at their peak during the teenage years, if so, eden hazard will never improve? Sterling, ross, oxlade chamerlain or stones? Never going to improve? Stones will always make mistakes, barkley will never be able to pass a ball and hazard will never get better in any way?. Come on mate

What I said was you learn the basics as a kid if you can't trap a ball or pass it at the age of 21, your not going to get better at it now. Swan the players you named all have natural ability, at 10 years of age they would be able to trap and pass the ball with ease, that's what makes them stand out to other players. But at the end of the day you, me, and all the other posters know nothing, were all supporters who think we know everything about the game, and we all want to give our advice to Bobby and tell him who to pick, who to buy, and who to sell. but hey we'll all carry on moaning and cheering as each game go'es bye.

09 Nov 2014 16:31:38
How lazy is our 28 million pound man? Disgrace of a performance dock his wages.

09 Nov 2014 15:42:58
Dear Santa,
For Christmas please can you send to Everton fc the following players;
Carlos Vela
Gerard Delefeu
Fabian Delph
Lionel Messi
& 2 x new legs for Gareth Barry

Lots of love
Zacki xx
(P.s. - please could you make sure you take Mcgreedy, Alcatrash & Kone back to the North Pole with you as they are utter trash & not good enough to play for my toffees, any extra shipping costs will be paid gladly in full by the fans!)

R u listening Bobby?

I'd rather play Kone than Lukaku that's how bad Lukaku is right now; completely bloody useless.

09 Nov 2014 14:35:52
No Leon Osman today. I wonder how we will perform without him again?

As I suspected, 72 mins gone and one nil to them. So we take McGeady off. Another blinder from him then. How many goals and assists this season from him? But let's blame Leon Osman because he is too old and crap.

Oh look.McGeady off and we immediately get a penalty and score. Coincidence?

I thought Mcgeady looked lively today. He was solid defensively and although his crossing was hit and miss it is always going to be difficult with no one in the box to aim at.

{Ed025's Note - i want to know why him and peanuts are starting before naisy pod?, both of them are sub standard..i blame bobby there, now i know that with europa we need to rotate a bit, but come on!..barkley seems to be believing his own hype and contributed very little, and lukaku seems very slow to me, a decent centre forward would have buried them chances and his price tag is looking more inflated by the game!...maybe im just being a moaner but we looked very pedestrian today..

I totally agree Ed. Naismith should start every game. I don't think we won a header until he came on! I would play him behind Eto'o and bench both Barkley and Lukaku for a while.

{Ed025's Note - im with you there pod, hefty valuations should not automatically guarantee you a place, sunderland were there for the taking today mate and we blew it!..

Like I say in my other post, it appears that everyone else has to fight for the position, but McGeady goes straight in. And Pod, he probably did look lively and reasonably solid defensively. However, he is an attacking midfielder or winger. So far he has contributed next to nothing with regards to goals or assists. All the other players I have mentioned have contributed more than him. I have heard may other Blues say, "He flatters to deceive." That is something that describes him perfectly. Looks ok bu hardly ever does anything to change a game. He played about 75 minutes today and as soon as he was taken off we scored. In recent times I have had arguments with other Blues who have slagged Osman. At least Osman chips in with a fair share of goals and assists. You might as well play my missus ahead of McGeady. She at least would get in the way.

09 Nov 2014 18:27:23
the reason mcgeedy goes straight into the team is because his natural position is a winger. naismith, barkley and etoo are all central attacking midfielders (with the exception of etoo and naismith being able to play as the striker) certainly none of them wingers. I partially believe this is why so many of our attacking midfielders are stuggling to hold down a permanant place and when switched about struggle for form. if you consider the formation we set up the options should be:

LW: Pienaar, Oviedo
RW Mirallas, McGeedy, Osman
ACM Barkley, Etoo, Naismith
ST: Naismith, Lukaku, Etoo

Due to Pienaar being out and Oviedo I'm not too sure but wasn't on the bench, we are stuck to playing players out of position, personally today I would have set up:
LW McGeedy
RW Etoo
ACM Barkley
ST Naismith.
Etoo is more versitle in his build up play to play any of the attacking roles when players are not available as opposed to naismith or barkley.

10 Nov 2014 09:11:35
Mcgeady goes straight in the team because he's the only winger we have at the club till kev gets back, having eto, naismith, barkley or osman on the wing disrupts the team, mcgeady got 2 assists vs lille remember, he's gets to the wing and crosses it, that's his game, he cost bugger all. This argument of 'we scored after he went off', it literally is nothing more than coincidence, we scored a penalty, naismith didn't come on and score, we scored a penalty. I hate these debates because it make me look like mcgeadys number 1 fan, believe me, i'm not. I just think he's getting unfair critisism from some, he's contributed more this season than barkley, pienaar or mccarthy have, are they garbage too?.

I take all your points guys. I think I was a bit wound up after the game. I know the Leon Osman debate has been over done, but I was trying to show that he still has a use for us and that McGeady was no world beater. McGeady has had more goals and assists, but he has also had much more playing time. I also see similarities in the way Osman is sometimes easily knocked off the ball and how McGeady also gives possession away easily. Enough said all round now I think.

{Ed025's Note - posting immediately after a game may not be a great idea degsy, i done it yesterday and had a rant at a couple of guys to my detriment, i am very passionate about everton and get so worked up at times that my mouth engages well before my brain, just a bit of advice that i hope to heed myself mate..

Are you kidding Ed025? That is my calm version. You don't want to meet me down a back lane when I am wound up! Believe me. LOL

{Ed025's Note - i dont frequent many back alleys degsy..