Everton Banter Archive May 09 2016

 

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09 May 2016 21:44:08
Martin o Neil 2/ 1 fav for Everton manager who dreams these things up. Major step forward if Bobby does go,2 steps backward if O'Neil comes in. Please no! Coyb.

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10 May 2016 00:57:33
O'Neill could be the new pulis, or Holloway. managers you go for in desperation. Leave him managing the republic. not what we need. let bobby go, get de Boer, who comes with stam and bergkamp. imagine Dennis teaching Barkley a thing or two in the art of passing and attacking.

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09 May 2016 21:27:14
seeing a few posts saying that FDB would not be suitable as the next manager because he has no premier League experience, Ronald Koeman had no premier league experience when he came to England but most would love to have him here. FDB has 4 eridivise titles to his name Koeman never won anything in the 4 years he was at Ajax and the 2 he was with PSV if your going to judge FDB on the league he is managing in take into account FDB is way ahead of Koeman In that very same league that being said I would take either of them in a heartbeat.

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{Ed025's Note - fair point that AL..

09 May 2016 21:33:15
Neither did pochettino when he came to Southampton, but sure they'd love him here too.

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{Ed025's Note - well i would gibbo..

09 May 2016 22:28:30
I would get the Southampton chairman, he brought Koe and Poch to the prem!

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09 May 2016 22:32:47
Every successful manager at some stage had to gain premier league experience so why is it such an issue in the first place. RDB is a born winner. As is Jap Stam and Dennis Bergkamp who come with him.

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10 May 2016 10:53:39
Guardiola has no prem experience either, I'm sure he will do well at city though.

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09 May 2016 21:05:36
I will be interested in the West Ham game tomorrow, not in the match but in terms of the sort of send off they give the Boleyn Ground.
I used to be pro staying at a redeveloped Goodison, but now favour a new move within the city boundaries.
I think if the ground is given a fitting finale with past players and memories relived and perhaps a Goodison museum at the new place then the move will be welcomed.

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09 May 2016 22:37:08
I'm all for getting a new ground that befits the current standard. To be fair we were used to having the most innovative ground until the last 30 years or so. But the day we eventually move out will be one of the saddest days I will have in following this special club.

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09 May 2016 20:05:35
Understand people bring sceptical but let's wait and see what is said at the end of season awards on Thursday.

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09 May 2016 20:31:02
So Tezza you think that at the end of season 'awards' it will be announced Martinez is gone.

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09 May 2016 18:58:07
I was just wondering, if stone goes and jags is pushing on a bit, wouldn't it be, I'd like to see2 New New C/ defenders brought in, I like shawcross but always seems a bit injury prone, also I like Williams from Swansea, I think these 2 would definitely bring up the standard of our defence and add good competition, they no the premiership and are realistic targets, what does everyone else think.

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09 May 2016 19:43:31
Galloway, Browning, Pennington, Garbutt, Oviedo, Baines, Coleman, lots more in the wings, and contrary to the fiction that Martinez puts out the majority of our players were already here.

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09 May 2016 20:03:27
Shawcross to unpredictable, williams to old. Give youth a chance.

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09 May 2016 21:32:45
Shawcross, if i where looking for an all in wrestler.

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09 May 2016 22:00:50
Like the look of Michael Keane from Burnley. That's if they would sell.

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09 May 2016 22:23:12
There is a lad a Blackburn called Duffy who looks promising.

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09 May 2016 22:41:06
Duffy from Blackburn and Mustafi from Valencia, eh Avro? ;)

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09 May 2016 22:47:05
I still can not get my head round why we let Duffy go!

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10 May 2016 01:45:11
Not good enough!

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10 May 2016 09:24:12
Sid there was a point we had no choice but to play him, the kid did a great job and that was over 3 years ago. I'm sure he's about 24/ 25 now, so he was only young. He got droped for the Derby for Hibbert and never got another chance, so wouldn't say he wasn't good enough off what I seen.

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09 May 2016 18:31:49
Rm aside, there is no fight in them players whatsoever, they all need to av a look in the mirror at themselves. Hope they don't do this parade on Sunday as I have a feeling it won't be pleasant. For ours and your sanity Bobby leave after Wednesday night will ya. Coyb.

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{Ed025's Note - bit of good advice for bobby there martout..

09 May 2016 13:14:10
How sad have we become as a football club.
All these comments clearly filled with desperation and it would appear that not one of the top brass give a chit about us.

A manger walks in 3 years ago and promises us Champions league football, I knew then he was the wrong choice.
I want a manger to promise us the champions league trophy, or at least keep his mouth shut but have the know how to reach for the stars.
I don't want a manger to promise us top 4 or 3 or 2, I want the premier league trophy.

I've quoted it before on here and I'll quote it again, 'when Everton touches you, nothing else is ever quite the same', Alan Ball, world cup winner, yes winner.

Nil satis Nisi Optimum, what a joke, I think we should lose that slogan until we deserve to use it.
Once we have won something then reinstate it, it does nothing but brainwash us all.

As much as I love and admire BK we have simply stagnated under him, yes he could have jumped ship, sold us to someone who didn't care, so for that I'm grateful, but it's time for him to move over and let someone, a winner, take over.

We are Everton, I don't want players who are willing to run through brick walls for us, I want players who are willing to die for us.

I want a manager who will tell the overgrown infants, like Lakaku, that if they don't want to be here, then get your boots, go home and never come near Goodison or Finch Farm ever again, you're history, finished, not good enough to play for our Everton.

When one player can stroll around and show us so much disrespect, and still play the following weeks, then we have truly become losers.
He is simply not good enough for us, not the other way around.

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09 May 2016 13:49:04
Well said Frank. awesome post. and the same for all the players. If you are a mercenary. If you are using Everton as a stepping stone. Get out now.

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{Ed002's Note - Players come and go from all clubs - you seem tyo have an incredibly naive view of the business.}

09 May 2016 14:03:42
Not meaning to have a go Frank but there's nothing realistic in your post mate.

To tell a player to do one when he's worth a transfer value of £50+ million is just naive.

To not use NSNO our club moto embodied by such greats as Ball Dean Kendall Harvey Southall Reid Watson Cahill and many others who gave their all would not be right. NSNO whilst not too apparent now is still very much an expectation because of past players like these who were the very epitome of what our grand history echoes through time.

You won't get a martyrdom commitment from any player these days so running through brick walls is about as committed as it'll get nowadays.

We all want the very best and are all really feeling it right now. But the game has changed and will not deliver the sentiment of years past. The money has seen to that sadly.

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09 May 2016 14:27:48
I don't see how Everton have stagnated under Bill Kenwright? Cast your mind back to when he took the rains, can you honestly say that we are the same club? Yes the last 2 seasons have seen a set back, but that is all it is. Have faith.

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09 May 2016 14:56:17
I agree on Bill Pedromez but wether it is his illness or misguided loyalty he does seem to have made an error (my opinion) with Martinez. I know Ed002 will probably come back with some cutting comment but never the less I also think a lot of the animosity both on and off the terraces could and would be avoided if only the Club had made some sort of statement, to support RM, or agreed at leaving at end of season etc! I have supported the Club for more years than I can remember and I must say even cutting out the hysteria, this is probably one of the most upsetting periods I can remember. I also do not agree with any planned protest against Norwich, especially as the players and Staff by tradition usually bring their families along with them.

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{Ed002's Note - Yes I am sure a proportion of the so called supporters will make it as difficult as possible for the club, owners, manager, players and all of their families.}

09 May 2016 16:47:52
NSNO is an aspiration that is subjective. Some may say they are attaining that aspiration others may disagree. I have consistently thought that the only way to judge RM on his performance is at the end of the season, maybe the board think the same way.

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09 May 2016 20:34:48
Toffee ace and SHML. I agree with you two chaps. I posted at weekend that I won't be going on Sunday as A) I've just had enough this season b) I don't want to be a hypocrite, c) equally I don't want to be part of a toxic atmosphere. The directors, the players and the manager i'm sure are more than aware by now that the fans are extremely unhappy. that's been clear for many weeks, the booing, the irrate plonker running on the pitch and the banners flying over the ground last home game, the signs, the protests. I'm pretty sure there is also a drop in season ticket renewals. it's clear. BUT rather than show the club up, and show ourselves up as septic, aggressive, unforgiving fans. which will do wonders for recruitment and the nerves of our younger players. I think the best thing to do if you can't control your emotions is simply let Saturday pass you by. go Christmas shopping. something far less stressful. and for those who want to stay and applaud the team, then carry on.

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09 May 2016 18:53:33
Toffee Ace, I'm not having a go at you either but if Lakaku wants out, get rid.
Fergie did it with Beckham, Jap Stam and Van Nistlerooy to name but a few.

As for NSNO, I suggest you read what I said again. The players you mention deserved to use it.

If you want to sound clever at least read what I said first about reinstating that motto.

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09 May 2016 22:43:31
Frank in today's world teams very rarely get Them want to stay and give it all players anymore, let alone die for the club, if only we could get 11 of them.

Sunday il be going the game, paid for it il use it, plus small tradition I get smashed usually at every last home game of the season.

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09 May 2016 22:52:37
Frank. I don't want to argue mate. I did read your post a few times before making my points and I stand by them. But I want to agree with you on how you feel about Lukaku, he angers me too and you make a fair point about what SAF did.

I also get the NSNO point but it means too much to be messed about with. I say use it as a yard stick to measure success, and if something or someone falls short then you have a means to judge him by.

I'm not posting to sound clever, I'm just doing what you are. Using this forum to have an opinion. I mean you no harm, I just have a different view. No offence.

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10 May 2016 10:07:47
Toffee Ace
No problem my friend, I think we're all very frustrated right now. I know what you mean about NSNO.
My to 'die for the club comment' was OTT, I was writing as I was thinking. No offence to you either, we're both blues and just want the best.
Take it easy.

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09 May 2016 10:15:50
Isn't Evertons season awards ceremony on Thursday? Doesn't Kenwright make an annual statement during this event. Surely that would be the time before Sunday to let Everyone know what's going on regarding our future and the situation regarding Martinez.

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09 May 2016 10:29:04
In my opinion any statement might be left until after the season has finished. Like as you've stated before they aren't obliged to say anything but it just seems like a good opertunity to me.

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{Ed002's Note - Right - it makes no sense to do it at the annual awards.}

09 May 2016 14:59:26
Would seem a little harsh to announce at the awards that Martinez is leaving, so I suspect if that is on the cards no statement will be forthcoming. However, what if he is staying.

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09 May 2016 16:47:27
It won't be as harsh as what we can expect on Sunday.

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09 May 2016 08:15:32
i reckon we are waiting to end of the season for either peligrini or benitez.

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09 May 2016 11:38:29
we shouldn't be thinking of either of them! benitez couldn't cut it at madrid, with a great squad, pellegrini has wasted too much money at city, neither of them will move us forward, both poor choices.

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09 May 2016 12:30:36
Frank db with his brother ron
For me.

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09 May 2016 08:11:45
I like Roberto has a person but he's not good enough as a manager I am disgusted by some of the players poor attitudes especially lukaku. We need a clear out from top to bottom for me Koeman is the man has he's already done this at saints and invested very wisely. Considering this is our biggest summer for years I think he has the status and class. The only other options for me are de boer or laudrup. Please board get rid of Roberto before Sunday else I dread to think what will happen.

The duck.

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