Everton Banter Archive February 09 2016

09 Feb 2016 23:27:21
i"m forever blowing bubbles pretty bubbles in the air .NO HONEST I REALLY AM MY LITTLE GIRL HAS GOT LOADS OF THEM. they fly so high.

09 Feb 2016 21:58:44
Re the proposed takeover, for years fans have been demanding we get new owners or investors while giving Bill all sorts of grief for not finding them. Well now that it looks as though he has it sounds to me like many of the same fans are getting a bit edgy because we don't really know these Americans. We can't have it both ways, we either take a chance and back them or carry on moaning for another 10 years that it didn't happen.

10 Feb 2016 00:22:46
Although I have never given bill grief of slated him in anyway I see your point. I have been very sceptical about these Americans but I'm also sick of being labeled little Everton punching above there weight is rather go for it and if it works out great if it doesn't at least we took the gamble. I'm going to do a bit of a u turn and get behind this takeover I think. USA baby!

10 Feb 2016 06:12:11
I agree, we have all moaned about the lack of investment, and now it looks like happening we are moaning because it's Americans. Guarantee if it had been Asian investment we would have been moaning using the mess Cardiff are in as an example.
I have lived in the states and one thing I will say is they know how to put on a show, and they like to win. Don't believe for one minute they will throw money here there and everywhere. But they will invest in the structure of the club, because that is what brings in the big bucks.
So I believe we will get a new ground, what we won't get is the Manc mentality of spend 50k on a 20k player. So will still be expected to develop youth, difference is we won't have to sell our best players just to balance the books.
So let's stop being moaners, and get back to being supporters, because Uncle Sam wants YOU!

10 Feb 2016 11:20:44
Hopefully the takeover comes true but if not we have Chinese Investment (supposedly) waiting in the wings. Bill has held on for years looking for the 'right' people to come along and these people may well be them, however, we have to take into account Bills unfortunate illness and his obvious realisation it is getting to much for him. But let's face it he hasn't done that bad during his tenure (apart from RM - tongue in cheek I hope) and I have nothing but praise and the wish that he is able to recover.

09 Feb 2016 18:44:46
Liverpool fan here I come in peace. I hope the takeover goes well for you and you get the owners your great club deserves.2 things I hope happens for you. 1) you get the stadium you need and deserve. 2) the owners look to give you the transfer budget to make you stronger each year, no more selling your best players. also they don't put up with anymore of Martinez incompetence, the man is making Brendan Rodgers look like a genius. yes your form has improved and you are still in the f. a cup but with the squad you have you should be chasing a European place. he may well find himself working in a more ruthless environment once the owners take over as we have seen at other clubs. thanks for reading.

{Ed025's Note - thanks for your input kenny..

09 Feb 2016 19:05:53
Nice post mate and very respectful cheers.

09 Feb 2016 19:27:17
Good post and yes very respectful. I'm not saying this in a bitter way but I am worried about our best players being sold and the reason I say it is because since Liverpool have brought American owners in that is exactly what they have done.

{Ed025's Note - its the buying of players that worries me kingy, liverpool have been charged over the odds for players since their takeover, i dont wish to score points here but players like sakho, lovren, lallana, henderson, allen, klyne and many others have cost on average about £20m a piece, they are decent enough players but because of them having rich owners clubs think they can rip them off..

09 Feb 2016 20:19:54
Got to admit I'm a little worried when you look at our club be it a fan or a neutral
You think proper club looks after it's fans does a hell of a lot for the local community if this takeover goes through I hope the new fellas keep this up all I want the new owners to know is what we expect of them and they must realise they are mearly custodions of our club we as fans own them mentally and emotionally they must know we will not put up with the crap the reds are getting threw at them at the minute as much as we want to grow the club world wide we also want to keep maybe enhance our locality

By the way kk great post lad

Really hope they don't turn out to be the new hick and Gillette. That was a close shave for reds :')

{Ed025's Note - good one liam..

09 Feb 2016 20:30:30
Fair point eds I think that they get held to ransom so often because they always say yes and pay over the odds you won't see clubs playing those games with the likes of levy for example because they know they won't get anywhere. Personally I don't think we need to much investment in the team is rather concentrate whatever funds on a solution to the stadium.

{Ed025's Note - me too kingy mate..

10 Feb 2016 09:42:25
To be fair we have already been paying over the odds for player. Aiden McGeady was signed on a free!

09 Feb 2016 12:32:45
If the sale of the club goes through I wish Kenwright the best of luck. From those days of Johnson to now I can't even begin to tell you the difference.

In those days we couldn't have paid clubs to take some of the players we had. Many old and not good enough. The only direction we were taking was to the lower leagues.

Now though when he leaves we will have three players that could be sold for 50mil each and a team swamped in potential that only leaves us with hope and optimism.

The only thing that has eluded Kenwright is a trophy but not for the want of trying.

The debt at the club is negligible and the new owners can put money into the clubs infrastructure rather than the team and this is no doubt the appeal of the club. The reason before is that they would have needed to build a stadium AND invest heavily on the team.

Now though the usual coffers through the door in the new tv deal can still fund the team and enough revenue to find a stadium. That is the big difference in why we are getting new investment.

I believe we would have been a Portsmouth rather than a man city if we would have had investment before.

As for Kenwright he deserves a legacy and the naming of s stand and a statue amoungst our.

{Ed025's Note - i remember the "agent johnson" era only too well john, dark days indeed, i think when you look at everton they are a snip at £200m if that is the price mate..

09 Feb 2016 13:05:34
With 3 players worth 50 Mill each that means the value of the Club with facilities and other playing staff etc is just worth 50 Mill. Getting a bargain it seems to me.

{Ed025's Note - its the sale of the century mate...im just going to see whats in my current account and dimple bottle to see if i can get a piece of it.. :)

09 Feb 2016 13:26:06
I managed to cut myself off short. Damn fat fingers!

Duncansmum you will be one of the few on here to realise it is a bargain whereas many think Bill has been ripping the club off in holding out for this sum.

Me I think he has done nothing but great things for us. It's not as if he hasn't backed managers or put other things before the building the team. The biggest problem for him is that he is a fan and some believe that gives us a right to treat him the way we do. The banners, marches and flags calling for him to leave have been disgraceful in my opinion and I felt embarrassment every time it happened.

No longer fighting for our lives and with the best team we've had in decades. When you look at the yoyo clubs we would have been like Villa and Newcastle to name but a few I think there are some supporters that need to take a long hard look at themselves.

{Ed025's Note - your preaching to the converted there mate..

09 Feb 2016 14:45:12
Haha. I know Ed. It's frustrating sometimes that people don't realise what other owners have done to their clubs. Yet we've had this guy who has almost performed a miracle from what the club has come from.

{Ed025's Note - i agree mate..

09 Feb 2016 14:59:15
Great post blue John.

09 Feb 2016 17:30:15
am converted to but at present and for a few years everton football clubs only assets are the players, they don't own goodison or finch farm or merchandise, the bank own goodison, the council own finch farm and kit bag have a share of the merchandise, kenwright had to sell everything to keep us afloat which at the time I didn't understand but now I do hat off to the true blue he must go down as everton legend only because stones lukaku and ross plus other players we are valued at what we are and why we can sell we have never been in a position to in the past which is why I understand now.

09 Feb 2016 18:34:19
I remember Johnson bad days and to think he beat kenwright then to buy us. Then kenwright bought us off him.

09 Feb 2016 18:58:20
Well said BlueJohnUns. Your right not everyone appreciates BK. Fair enough but I'm firmly on the same side as you.

I don't mind people giving constructive criticism against BK. He's not perfect and didn't do everything right while in charge. It's when people start giving abuse and show absolutely 0 remorse for his health that annoys me.

He tried his best for Everton. You could stand on your head for some people and they would still find something to give out about.

I'd be surprised if the take over is completed by the summer. It's not a case of Stones, Barkley and Lukaku are worth £150 and the rest of the club is worth £50m so there you have £200m. I don't think you believe that either Duncansmum.

Takes a lot to run a small business so I can only imagine what it takes to run a club and brand like Everton. The majority of supporters myself included wouldn't have a clue of the first thing about how to run a premiership football club.

I just hope the new owners do as good a job as BK. Personally I'd rather get to the top the way we are trying at the moment. Keep our dignity.

I know the majority would rather us be the new Chelsea or Man City. Fair enough if it brings trophies.

But I'm very proud of Everton's history. We are the second longest team in the top flight after Arsenal. Recently I've seen that Everton have spent the most seasons in the top flight since the beginning of football.

Something like 112 years collectively spent in the top flight in the club's entire history. More than any other club in the history of the game. Now that is something to be very proud of.

Plenty of people contributed to that. let's hope we add more people to that list in the not too distant future.

{Ed025's Note - good post that mate..

09 Feb 2016 20:36:47
I will always love bill for getting us rid of Johnson and I will never forget what Walter did for us at that time to he put his arse on the line for us fans by backing bill and forcing a sale.

10 Feb 2016 10:40:07
nbtb we are joint longest with arsenal been in top flight.

09 Feb 2016 12:08:39
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Neville's True Role At Valencia Revealed As Allegri Backed To Take Over At Chelsea And More As The Toon Finally Replace Cabaye

09 Feb 2016 08:34:46
Just something I have been thinking about.
With
Pep going to city
New boss at Chelsea
Mourinho in at utd, possibly
And klopp new at Liverpool

All four clubs will have a massive clear out and huge turnover of players.

1. Will there be any player we want in our price range.
2. Obviously they will target our best players, can we keep hold of them or do we sacrifice one (stones) to keep the rest?

Gonna be a very interesting summer and if other teams do a Leicester along with top 4 or 5, we could end up with 10 teams challenging, including ourselves.

09 Feb 2016 09:57:45
stones to City for me with Kelechi Iheanacho to us.
city WILL obviously bring loads of star names under pep, pushing Iheanacho down the pecking order and this kid is quality.

Bobby allegedly wants an experienced goalkeeper, for me Begovic, if not Elliot (Newcastle) has had a good season and will be relegated'

With Stones expected to leave, another Centre half = Cook (Bournemouth) or Michael Keane (Burnley) .

Full backs positions covered and covered again!

Midfield sorted with Grant and Williams coming through to replace Ossie, Pienaar.

Possibly a No. 10, Any EFC fan worth his/ her shirt would love Yarmolenko (fingers crossed, if the takeover goes through surely we will have a marquee signing! )

Forwards are ok, if Niasse works out. although would like to see SuperKev pushed further forward at times, late on in games (as a striker to utilise his pace more) .

There is no doubt we already have one of the best squads in the league, and if we are taken over before the summer then we should be in a position to hold on to our star players.

09 Feb 2016 11:04:11
Paul, agree with most of that. Not seen much of the centre half's of which you speak but do we not have enough cover with Galloway, browning, Jags, mori, foulds, etc.
I feel we need a quality keeper, cover for seamus and left winger.
I also think maybe we should look at bringing the kids through a bit so they can cover if/ when Hibbert, peinaar, osman, etc move on.