Everton Banter Archive February 09 2014

09 Feb 2014 19:17:48
Come On. Jolly up will ya? Did you think we were going win the league this season, the way some are jumping off the Proverbial bridge?!
Let me lend a hand of thought.
Yes, a defeat, shameful refereeing (Ed, can this ref be banned for life from the EPL?) but the players will know that the result should have been secured before then. The lads played some terrific football today. RM is quite correct to point out saying playing like that will provide more wins than losses. Lead players are just coming back from long term injuy. So 13 games to go. other teams will trip up too when least expected. the target must be in RM's mind for the points total to be in the high 60's and low 70's. that's a great seasons result and better than in any of the 10 years before.

Finally a bit of sense. Couldn't agree more my friend.

09 Feb 2014 18:20:43
Just when I thought nothing could cheer me up I turn ssn back on and see gollums mush as he trudges off to another awful result. there is a god after all.

09 Feb 2014 18:06:45
We can consider ourselves more than a little unlucky to lose today. The match was decided by two very poor referee decisions, the first was the Spurs dubious free kick was taken 10 yards away from where the 'foul' took place and although criticism could be levied at Jags and Distin switching off, by turning away from the ball, they obviously expected the ball to be returned to the correct place before the free kick could be taken.
Funnily enough, Clattenburg prevented us taking a quick free kick, taken from the right spot, by insisting on booking the octopus, Dembele.
Clattenburg also from 10 yards away failed to award a nailed on penalty on Seamus.
Maybe our luck will change with regard to questionable refereeing decisions in the remaining matches.
I also thought Traore would have offered us more options than McGeady in the last 15 minutes, allowing Mirallas, Delboy, Coleman and Baines a target.
All in all disappointed but not despondent because we are a far better team than Spurs.

I can't see how anyone can say it was a nailed on penalty. If that was given against us people would be spitting blood. Personally, I thought Seamus played for it and the ref got it spot on.

09 Feb 2014 16:08:11
Red fan in peace. Thought you guys played well today just no cutting edge reminds me of liverpools games last season like someone said. But Tottenham do not deserve to be where they are! A clear penalty at the end is the ref blind? and they are just a dull team. I was hoping for a draw but hope you guys come 5th infront of spuds and mancs. Officials have been appalling this season!

. gee thanks. Glad someone agrees wiv me!

09 Feb 2014 15:49:16
Gutted after that. We outplayed them for most of the game. I thought Osman was fouled when they won the ball only forcing Barry to then give a away a free kick within half a second. Then Distin switched off and the ball was in the back of the net. Ok we didn't trouble their keeper much. but it was more than they troubled ours. All the substitutions made us lose our shape. I have to say McGeady looks poor to me in every game. Yes he can ghost past a player, but more often than not it is in the middle of the pitch, or he does it in advanced positions, then gives the ball away or puts in a poor cross. Barkley needs resting until his foot is fully recovered. He needs to come back when we are winning games for his confidence. Deulofeu gives the ball away too many times as well. Feeling down now lads. I thought we were going to win that one after the first half showing.
Degsypulford

{Ed025's Note - mcgeady looks poor to me as well degsy, i dont really know what he offers us..

How can you possible judge McGeady? He has played two full games and been good in both. This was a brief cameo when the entire team had fallen apart. What he offers is pace and skill. If we actually had someone giving him an option after he'd beat him man, we'd all be singing his praise.

{Ed025's Note - its all about opinions AB, i just dont know what he brings to the table that we dont already have mate, but how i would love to be proved wrong..

I just think that McGeady does not create much. Or at least so far has not. I will give him time, but right now I would say we have better players than him. Pienaar, Osman, Barkley, Mirallas, Naismith and Del Boy can all play different roles and I would pick all of them ahead of McGeady from what I have seen.
Degsypulford

09 Feb 2014 20:50:26
to be fair to aiden, he wants to take people on, its just our style is making him go inwards and pass it or cross with his weaker foot, hopefully he will have one match when he completely demolishes a full back, hopefully against evra when they come here, I will give him time, I don't rate him, he clearly has the tools to do well, he just needs that bit of swagger and confidence so he can express himself on the pitch, hopefully he can do it, he's barely played for us, same with kone and alcaraz, they need time to bed in and gain confidence from playing matches, I think he's a better option than pienaar, all in all, least we can do is give him time

Mike-Ox Long

I'm with Degsy on this one. McGeady is not half the player Pienaar is and does not have the same understanding down the left with Leighton Baines. As Degsy said, the substitutions had a negative effect on the team performance and was not the Plan B we were expecting.

Judging McGeady after 3 games? Are we serious? And after months of no football? What does he bring? Well give him 4 great chances in the opening 7 mins like Osman had and I bet we would find out

09 Feb 2014 15:43:30
Season over!! What a load of crap!! Martinez to blame again for me & he's really starting to be found out now as a manager in the last few games. Q: why play Naismith on the wing when he should be up front which is his natural position & he was our only option up front! Q: why bring on 2 wingers (mcgeady & delefeo) when we still don't have outlet up front to aim for & when we had 1 in traore on the bench - this was the craziest decision decision of the match for me especially as it was quite apparent that once again we offered no cutting edge up front & didn't take any of our chances again in that 1st half. My wife's a Liverpool supporter & she says that Liverpool had quite a few games like this last season where they would dominate possession, not create very much or take their chances & the opposition would go up the other end of the field & score the winner against the run of play - the lesson they had to learn was that all this possession style of football is load of crap unless you create & put your chances away consistently!!
We need to re-group after this, but I feel we might be on the slide.& Martinez needs to start making better decisions as a manager for me or else this season will be seen as no improvement on the last & possibly even worse if the mancs get going.
Finally, I noticed Barkley was limping badly at the end of the game today, hope it's not as bad as it looked, will be a big loss for us if he is out for another amount of time.

{Ed025's Note - bit harsh on bobby that zacki, lack of quality in the final third, and yes, i thought traore should have come on, but for all that we are playing good football, and i believe are a better side than last year..

We have to give him a chance to get his style of football right yes there r things that need to be fixed but bearing in mind I thought we would struggle in his first season it has gone well we'll be far better next season and yes rodgers took a couple of seasons to get to were lfc r now there still a few twists to come yet it could all change again on tues and weds

Played well got caught by a sucker goal. Barry should have kicked it away not teed it up for them to take quick. Martinez doing nothing wrong, had Kev laid the ball off to Naisy 1st half then we would have gone on to win. Stop bloody moaning.

. I think my points are quite valid ed. yes we are playing a much better style of football thus season, but Bobby's decisions of late have late have cost us dearly. he set us up completely wrong in the derby playing too high a defensive line & bringing too many unfit players back too soon & I'm sticking to my points bout today's match! :-)

{Ed025's Note - your entitled to your opinion zacki mate..

Saw the first two words of his post and stopped reading.

09 Feb 2014 15:37:02
Clattenburg at it again should never be allowed to referee another everton game ever he's a disgrace clearcut penalty he's lookin straight at it . This lack of a proper striker has cost us again today not good enough we should have bought begged borrowed or stole 1 in the transfer window.

09 Feb 2014 15:34:56
If you was at the fame i'm sure you agree with me. Osman offensively was shocking missplaced 9/10 passes BUT when we needed him 9/10 times he was the one who made the crucial tackle.

Naismith gunna get majority of tue blame for playing rubbish but most balls played to him where shocking so that can be to blame.

Now for the MAIN reason we didn't come away with a draw or a win was 1 man. And his equily rubbish officals. From the off every single 50/50 or challenge went spurs way it wasnt till the 38th min we actually got a foul. The linesmen where flagging every run was diabolical. But there main problem was clatenberg who I forgot did I mention joe rubbish he was!

Now, it was evident from today that we need to take our chances and take a shot for 70 mins we tried to pass the ball into the net there where 8-times where a shot would have gone in or cornwr if missed

Oh well coybs prey for a fulham win

Hic.
Degsypulford

Now I've had time to calm down after todays result, and reviewing it on match of the day. it is clear we just needed to take our chances

COYBS still only 4 loses againg top sides bar 1

09 Feb 2014 15:32:25
Really disapointed. Considering they were the home team I thought we controlled the game. Their first shot on target gets them the winning goal that says a lot. In games like this that cutting edge makes the difference. Nothing to be ashamed of though lads for me we are the better team.

{Ed025's Note - we played well sheeds, but as you say, no cutting edge..

I'd rather play badly and have that cutting edge. We keep saying the same thing but at the end of the day the record books will show goals and final results/standings. I think RM is doing a great job but he has no plan B. I have one - shoot!

09 Feb 2014 14:37:01
Naismiths movement is brilliant, I think he is so underrated. He sometimes makes runs that the others around him dnt see but if they did he Wud have a hat-trick by now

{Ed025's Note - hes really a No 10 johny, i would like him tried with romelu mate..

I agree ed he is a pest for defenders always on the move he will create a lot of space for romelu or lacina if given a chance

09 Feb 2014 14:23:37
Why oh why do we persist in these outswinging corners. Half the time they are headed clear and the other half of the time we get under them, so they are headed upwards and out. If Baines took the ones on the right and Mirallas the ones on the left, we could drive them in with pace and have something to run on to. The ones we take end up as airy fairy floaters that defenders can run at and clear. I know this from Sunday League football.so surely the coaching staff do? We look like we could take 100 corners and never score. Can anyone remember the last time we scored from a direct header to a corner?
Degsypulford

{Ed025's Note - lukaku against the reds?..

Hey Ed 25. thanks for that. And how many games ago was that? And how many corners have we wasted since? Average 7 a game.probably over 100? Plus I don't quite remember the corner for his goal, but was it driven in or an outswinger?
Degsypulford

{Ed025's Note - i agree degsy, we are poor at set pieces mate..

09 Feb 2014 13:10:52
Strange starting 11 but bobby has a plan. I hope naismith starts up top but I can see a lot of interchanging during the game with that line up. Great subs bench which could be crucial for the last 20 minutes. This is a big one coyb!

09 Feb 2014 11:53:25
Must win today to stay in the race for 4th COYB

09 Feb 2014 10:17:50
Its matchday fellow blues! We best outsing those spurs today' will take a draw today, but a win is prefered as always! Shall be intresting game today, I believe this to be tue pivot of our season (perhaps next game pending on injurys) wether we get 4th spot, but if we miss out it isn't the end of the world as to even be this close now. Would be unheard of pre-season when martinez was appointed! COYBS

09 Feb 2014 08:53:20
Reports today suggest the ginger ninja from untd is ready to bid for Coleman in the nxt window.
I just wish he would stop trying to destroy our club.
But I think if we can get major investment before the nxt window then we can offer our best players the same types of deals as the likes of the top four could offer