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09 Aug 2017 23:30:12
Hi eds if giroud doesn't want to come would we make a mover for nicolai jorgensen? Think he was linkined early on or is he well down the list of targets now?
{Ed025's Note - i would not think so berkshire mate..
09 Aug 2017 23:14:13
In my opinion, this saga with Sigurdsson is about possible "sell on" values! There isn't going to be much if any sell on with him. if we do actually sign him. Everton need to understand the working of Transfer Market today, at 27 Gylfi is in his prime and is a player for NOW, not so much the future, although I would expect him to still be thriving 3 years from now. United have just paid £40m for Matic from Chelsea and he is 29 nearly 30?If we want these class players, then we are going to have to pay big bucks otherwise we will only ever be seen as a "nearly team". Koeman is capable of building dynasty similar to what happened at Ajax. but only if the Club backs him and his ideas. completely! Based on what I have seen in the 2 UEFA Ties and the friendlies pre-season, if we don't get a top striker/ target man and Gylfi in very quickly, then we are going to be in a spot of bother quite early on based on the first 6 fixtures we have. We need reults against these so called top sides or we will be playing catch up from the off. I think Everton are waiting on Gylfi "rocking the boat" at Swansea to get the move . hope so? Get it done Blues.
10 Aug 2017 07:38:48
Sensible post. Voiced a lot of what some of us have posted and have been thinking. Hopefully Everton negotiations with various parties are like an iceberg but one away from the shipping lanes.
10 Aug 2017 09:08:59
Thats basically what i am saying but in a nicer way hahah great post totaly agree.
10 Aug 2017 11:02:41
Personally I think it's nothing to do with sell on clauses I think there are clauses with if he gets us champions league.
10 Aug 2017 13:35:41
I don't understand this. I think 99% of us think we are in a better position now than last year regarding the squad. So why would we be in a spot of bother? What does "spot of bother" mean? Relagation? 7th? 10th? I don't know haha.
I can't see anyone who finished below us last year catching up, ancan only see us getting closer to the top 6.
Everton the gear.
10 Aug 2017 17:03:12
You read it here Jimbobchaddy. must be true ;)
09 Aug 2017 20:19:42
on the sigurdson saga i see 2 options 1,walk away and look elsewhere 2,whoever is negotiating for efc should stand aside and let someone else complete the deal. this is damaging the start and with such a tough fixture list its something we could do without. Get it done or get out of the way.
09 Aug 2017 20:48:56
It is the same two that cock it up every season. The main one that messes up even got himself voted onto the board as CEO, totally unbelievable. I stress this is my own opinion.
09 Aug 2017 22:05:32
Is that the same 2 who got pickford, Klassen and Sandro before anyone else snapped them up. Got Man u to give us Rooney on a free? The same 2 who got 90mill for Lukakau?
Give it a rest will you.
09 Aug 2017 22:40:38
Seriously some of you need to drop the negativity and stop getting wrapped up in everything the press is reporting, getting a teams top asset out of a club takes time and a lot of negotiating!
Cast your minds back to Stones did we cave in and accept lower? No, we managed to keep hold of him despite Chelsea's persistence!
Lukaku, we didn't sell last summer despite him wanting a move and sold this summer as the deal was right for us.
The press are just stirring things up and we are trying to ensure we don't overpay by too much in these crazy transfer times!
Show some faith in those that are shaping the future of our club, Moshiri is no fool and if he thought things weren't being conducted properly and effectively he would have sorted things.
{Ed025's Note - great post ST..
10 Aug 2017 07:43:52
Good post Southern Toffee. Have no problem with Moshri and absolute faith in Walsh and Koeman. As I stated, it is just my opinion and I stand by it. Doesn't make me any less of a supporter, like a lot of us 'veterans' over the years I have collected a lot of 'T' Shirts.
10 Aug 2017 10:01:12
Why all the fuss over someone else's player? If all parties agree the deal will get done.
09 Aug 2017 18:32:32
Hi ed when will we walk away from sigurdson deal? It is becoming ridiculous now tbh.
{Ed002's Note - September 1.}
09 Aug 2017 19:26:40
Hahaha ed. Quick witted at usual. Did actually make me choke on my tea. Jipster it was a bit of a silly question mate 😂.
10 Aug 2017 09:01:14
Ok give you that one ed 😀.
09 Aug 2017 18:14:46
Just wondering if we can only do one transfer at a time, because we seem to have brought players in quick, but now all seems to be focused on gilfi, but are said to be after 2or 3 players, why aren't there more links to strikers, at the moment it seems to be the same stories being recycled, anyone brought in now is along way behind the rest of the squad, if we are so called giving keoman what he wants everyone knows he wants a striker another CB but why aren't they in yet, if we have money and have only spent overall 7million.
09 Aug 2017 18:56:34
Theory; there is only so much money in the pot. Lukaku paid for the first tranche of rapid incomings, Barkley, Mcarthy? will/ are paying for the next. The main aim, quite rightly is the new Stadium.
09 Aug 2017 20:11:15
We have a multi millionaire owner new chinease deal worth mega, and we haggleing over 5 mill for 1 player we want, still need striker and centre back, you wanna contest for cups and league, pay it Mr Moshri, rant over boys COYB.
09 Aug 2017 21:43:50
Haggling over £5million? if we believe he's £40mill and they believe its £50mill its not £5million.
i would love sigurdsson But at 28 (in 3 weeks) we don't have a sell on value on him and his time at a big club he flopped.
lets for once get behind the club and see what the next 3 weeks hold.
09 Aug 2017 22:15:07
Moshiri won't be paying for anything Howard. The sale of players and the TV money will. We should have plenty of Tv money left but what the board won't do is just splash money on any tom, dick and harry because we have it or because you think they should. There are targets that will have on going negotiations (siggy being one of them) the others will not be known unless you believe the press. At this stage of the transfer window there will be plans, plan he's and plan c's but it will take time. Have your rant at Mr Moshiri after the window has closed if you're not happy with the final result.
09 Aug 2017 17:33:23
Who is our sleeve sponsor this season? I must have missed it.
10 Aug 2017 03:36:45
Surely it's True Blue Holdings; we all know Bill Kenright wears his heart on his sleeve ;)
09 Aug 2017 16:35:57
eds, just a mention this but didn't kenwright say at i think was the awards (not sure) , thatif there is a player who wants to join everton and koeman wants this player then we will get him no matter what, i mean i know u have tothink abput fees but this one has dragged on that long now it just doesn't look good on bills words does it.
{Ed002's Note - I don't know what he said but if he said that it was a little naive.}
09 Aug 2017 16:45:48
yep he said it mate i watched it meself thought it was naive meself ed but just doesn't look good the way the gylfi deal has panned out, we need this sorting asap either sign him or move on, i think we need to start lookman against stoke because without him we are so slow going forward its worrying.
{Ed025's Note - i agree with all of that djr..
09 Aug 2017 16:49:07
Look God Bless Him, Bill loves Everton and wears his heart on his sleeve but bottom line, he is a showman.
09 Aug 2017 14:11:17
A little debate for the afternoon. Who would you rather have and why.
Gylfi or van the man, given both would be a similar price.
09 Aug 2017 14:34:47
Hi Woburn mate, Gylfi for me I don't rate Van that much cheers, GuernseyBlue.
09 Aug 2017 14:55:32
Im with GuenseyBlue.
09 Aug 2017 15:35:12
We don't need another midfielder imo. Is Van better than Williams again imo yes. So even though it wasn't included in the question, instead of Sigurdson (Everton have burned that bridge anyway) . So it comes down to what we need to progress, for me that means a defender ideally versatile (CB and LB) and a target man.
09 Aug 2017 15:32:51
Tend to agree boys. It's the ones who get you moving out your seat that do it for me.
09 Aug 2017 16:22:12
Not that I think we can pull it off but why not both Gylfi and Van Dijk? Both would improve the team, we could offer Williams back to Swansea or even to Southampton to sweeten the deal. And maybe snap up Wesley Hoedt if more depth is needed.
09 Aug 2017 18:30:56
That's very true Southern mate but I think R K is the man to decide who we bring in cheers, GuernseyBlue.
09 Aug 2017 13:32:24
If we can only get £25m for Barkley then I'd like to see us let him run out his contract rather than sell. If Arsenal are willing to do it with Sanchez then why not us? Even with Rooney, Klaasen, Sandro and Sigurdsson (maybe) there is still room for him to play in the first team - let him get a few games early on and make him feel a big part of the team. If we're doing well mid season then offer him another contract and see what happens.
09 Aug 2017 13:59:53
Take the money and invest, he wants out so get rid asp.
09 Aug 2017 14:11:05
Huge difference between the two scenarios, sanchez is a key player who the manager would hate to lose, ross barkley is now, hate to say it, a squad player who is out of favour with our manager, no future of playing so what's the point in keeping. get rid.
09 Aug 2017 14:15:12
Just curious on this, has Barkley submitted a transfer request? You hear about Mahrez and Van Dijk submitting one but nothing about Ross handing one in.
{Ed002's Note - No.}
09 Aug 2017 14:59:35
take what we can get, and invest it in someone who wants to be here, what they may lack in insperation, will at least be made up for in persperation, box to box and comeing back, quickly when we lose posesion.
09 Aug 2017 16:56:18
If you listened to the debate on sky sports last night Alan Pardew was talking about those scenarios, he said usually this comes from the agent when player terms are on the table with another club, it's a way of starting the fee negotiations.
reason Ross has not done that is there is nothing on table yet, even if he wanted to leave he could of signed a contract worth 120k a week and been settled his move would of come eventually as long as he performed
Spurs would have to smash there wage structure as no one on over 100k there then you would have a knock on effect, this team has come 2 seasons to early with stadium move there my team to drop out of top 4 next season.
{Ed025's Note - actually kane and loris are on £125k a week metz but you are right about the rest mate..
09 Aug 2017 10:15:53
Phil mcnulty actually gave a fair reflection about our upcoming season on BBC website. He predicts 7th place finish for us and states. 'do not expect them to finish any lower than last season but they may need a couple more transfer windows to seriously infiltrate the top six. '
Think this is fair. We won't finish lower than 7th (I hope) but maybe 5th or 6th. It'll be especially tough to break top 4.
09 Aug 2017 12:06:17
I have to agree with this but hopefully have a good cup run as well would be nice.
09 Aug 2017 13:14:50
Don't expect top four but 5th or 6th is well within our reach imho. Depends if we click early or not.
09 Aug 2017 13:30:24
Yeah, think we'll do well in cups too, maybe even a final or win one. Hopefully.
09 Aug 2017 10:06:57
Got a question for you all, if we signed no more players would you be happy with our transfer window? .
I think the way you have to look at it is are we stronger now than before the window. looking at the positions, goalkeeper (definitely) defence (yes) , midfield (yes) , the only position up for debate really is attack, are Rooney and Sandro going to be as good as lukaku, it's hard to say until the season starts. I would be happy if we didn't sign anymore players but I do think we need a target man for a different dimension up front. People think we need more pace but don't forget we have Bolasie and Coleman coming back but we really don't have a target man.
09 Aug 2017 10:27:04
No I wouldn't be happy, it was quite clear in pre season we are light up top, and we need a big man up top.
09 Aug 2017 10:56:07
agree totally with scousedownsouth, no idea who disagreed with him though and why.
09 Aug 2017 12:02:13
wouldn't be happy, and neither would the club considering manager has stated what he needs.
more signings will be coming in everyone needs to relax there is still three weeks.
09 Aug 2017 14:27:49
No definitely need a centre forward.
09 Aug 2017 09:36:35
All the fans speculating as to what has happened with the Gylfi deal, most are blaming us, our own club, i'd hate to be on the front line with this lot alongside me. Let's just see what happens and who was actually to blame first eh, you never know it may be the other team
Hope Svenny is right with Dolberg too as he would be awesome, probably not cheap but no idea what he would cost, anyone got a clue.
09 Aug 2017 10:47:01
My take on this saga (rather apt as the subject is Icelandic! ) is that we are probably getting some carefully constructed misinformation. I suspect this is coming out of Swansea as it would appear that all summer long they have been shifting the goal posts in a probably futile attempt to hold on to their most prized asset. Given what the British press is like, it wouldn't be that hard to leak a few carefully chosen words to imply that Everton have changed their position. I very much doubt that any experienced negotiator would retract an offer already agreed upon unless the target was no longer required. Swansea on the other hand may be desperate to avoid losing their man or blaming everyone else for the continuation of this confusion. Perhaps they hope that the other party will eventually walk away in frustration.
09 Aug 2017 10:58:18
could be Mashy, if they didn't want to sell him though they wouldn't have wrapped him up in cotton wool and would have played him pre season, this could bite them on the arse if it goes pear shaped as all that cash and an unhappy player, bye bye Swans.
09 Aug 2017 11:27:05
my only problem is if as you think it's Swansea who have released this to the press we would come out and say it's not true as it doesn't make us look good does it unfortunately us mere mortals have no idea what's going on I just wish they would cone to an agreement.
09 Aug 2017 13:26:58
I've wanted Sig for a long time but given that he doesn't have a lot of pace anyway and Rooney doesn't have the legs to be an out and out striker any more, would rather we played Rooney in the playmaker role and moved on to other targets.
Pickford
Baines, Keane, Jags, Kenny / Martina
Gana, Schneiderlin
Lookman, Mirallas
Rooney
Sandro / AN Other.
09 Aug 2017 08:43:47
Find it really pathetic we arw dragging this sig deal out as koeman said we have only spent 7 mil after the players we sold. Why are we haggling if we have this money plus i think if the deal doesn't happen koeman won't be happy with the board but who noes what's going on behind closed doors :/.
09 Aug 2017 09:01:53
just because we have the money, doesn't mean we have to spend it callum.
09 Aug 2017 10:30:07
So basically we shall not spend the money we have just got for lukaku we av lost are best striker an your telling me beacause we have the money doesn't mean we have to spend it load off bull we need a striker badly and a attack mid an centre back its needed ya can see it the manger is basiclally telling the board he needs it so the moneys there y are we hagling over 5 mil an to be fair it could be the other team yes but from what am hearing its everton hagleing over 5 mil i understand the clubs going forward but if we wanna compete with the top 4 when u lose ya top player u have to replace we got good money for him.
09 Aug 2017 12:04:34
evidently we have got the money, but why over pay for something just because you have the money? if you had a fiver and someone charged you that much for something you could haggle on, would you pay it straight up 'just because you have that money'? obviously youd try get it for less.
09 Aug 2017 13:26:54
Beacasue that's the market now its how it is and us not accepting will be efc going backwards we sold lukaku for a lot an he wasnt worth it we have been selling players on for big amounts for years now its are turn to accept it an get the player koeman wonts.
09 Aug 2017 14:13:22
not if there are other options out there to pursue, hwo do you know that's the main man koeman wants? maybe he's set a limit price on it? united wanted a striker who was premier league proven to score goals that's why didn't look elsewhere, and lukaku love him or hate him is worth that kind of money, guaranteed 20 goals a season for the next 6/ 7 years is a great investment.
09 Aug 2017 14:33:01
Pay the going rate, then sign Bonny for £13 Million, worth a punt at that price, or we could simply sell the guy to Swansea for around £18 Million with the Siggerson money they have.
09 Aug 2017 14:45:45
Firstly Callum how do you know we are only haggling over £5m? Other than press talk NO ONE from either Everton or Swansea have ever said this. How do you that the stumbling block is not Swansea wanting wanting another £25m in add-ons or something like that? How do you know that RK has not said to the board not to pay over a certain amount because he feels the player is not worth that amount? How do you know that Swansea actually want £50m for him? because it is my understanding that they have NEVER given a price, it is all based on the presses "understanding"
You seem to be so fast at criticizing Everton when all you know is what the press are saying, I remember it once being reported by a certain newspaper that a double decker bus had been found on the moon but I for one do not believe it nor do I believe any reports on our transfer targets that contain any of the words " we understand" or " Scources close to the club say ".
When you say RK say's we have only spent £7m so far you have taken that totally out of context, why not put the rest of what he was saying at the time into your quotes? The fact we have done good business so far in this window and that a total of ALL our sales including Lukaku have resulted in us being able to buy all of the players on our target list so far.
I am not sure you really do understand that the club is moving forward when in your very next comment you state we are going backwards, this after our best transfer window in the clubs history and RK getting every single player he has wanted so far.
I can honestly say I do not know what it will take to appease not only you Callum, but all of the other doom-sayers out there, I think if we won the league you moaners would only complain we should of had more points and we are a disgrace. Well I for one am in the camp of RK when he says he is happy with the window so far.
09 Aug 2017 18:22:19
Tbh i am not saying we arw going backwards i am saying if we don't accept fhe market that we are in them we will fl baxkwards i am on the side of are clubs future is bright and players we have got are good buys but sig for 50 mil with what he can give us is a bargain i think.
09 Aug 2017 07:29:31
These are actually worrying times for the Everton faithful, I have gone from optimistic to realist during this window. Yes we have signed many players to build the Squad, but have we actually strengthened. Defence bought a new Goalkeeper - probably better than what we have. A RB on a free - no better than what we have. Still awaiting a left sided defender. An excellent CB but lost one to injury. Midfield - built up, but we already had a good midfield in my view. Striker - Sandro - Not a Target man. Rooney for Lukaku - No. Plain to see from pre-season that Rooney is not a striker of quality anymore and is more like a No 10. My prediction based on all the incomings against the major outgoing is that we will finish 7th. Cups - I genuinely have no idea.
09 Aug 2017 07:50:40
Fair assessment. but we have more quality in depth imo. plus bolasie and Coleman still to come back AND further recruitment to come. hopefully a target man, a CB and maybe sigurdson.?
09 Aug 2017 09:03:44
negative post, Kenny coming through as a right back, like it or not rooney is excellent as a squad addition, the window is still 3 weeks from shutting judge the squad after this, everyone needs to stop panicking every team knows we have more money than usual because of lukaku, most deals i'd imagine now would be later in the windows due to this.
09 Aug 2017 07:28:25
Bluehart replying to you.
Does make you think. We had the Lukaku money we spent. The whole transfer seems funny anyway. I mean with the other players we didn't mess about we just paid. This being our top target its just comes across as one big balls up.
Have we changed the negotiator for this deal or what.
09 Aug 2017 07:18:10
Hi Guys just a thought. It seems like a coincidence that talks have stalled with the Sigi deal, the day after VVD handed in a transfer request. I wonder if one of the clubs have put pressure on Sigi to hand in a request to maybe make the deal cheaper either for Everton to buy him or the Swans not to pay a bonus etc. Any thoughts.
09 Aug 2017 08:19:53
Very confusing this Siggurdson deal, reports this morning say we have withdrawn a verbal agreement and referred to a previous lesser offer?
I like to think we are an honourable club with a lot of class so would really like to know the real truth in this matter!
09 Aug 2017 06:50:14
Personally, we should take our frustration out on slagging the reds off, rather than moaning about our own team! I'm game!
09 Aug 2017 01:57:13
According to reports (yeah I know) Transfer of Gylifi Siggurdson is close to breaking down.
I don't want to sound all doom and gloom because I am genuinely happy with what we have done in the transfer market, However from the outside looking in, now that we are going to be spending the club's money and not just the Lukaku transfer money we are now haggling of a couple of million even after verbally agreeing a deal we apparently went back and tried to re-negotiate which is the old Everton all over again.
I really hope this is not the case as I can't remember a season in the last 25 years where we have as much hope as this one but this saga is slightly tarnishing it for me.
09 Aug 2017 08:34:54
Not sure I agree with the reasoning there, the money from the sale of Lukaku and also Cleverly was all the clubs money, why would we be more cautious now over then?
I think it's more a case that the negotiations went smoother with other targets or was simply done away from the public arena in the press and all this with Sigurdsson is down to Swansea trying to show their fans they are fighting to keep Gylfi.
One thing that is evident though is Clement wants it dealt with so he can spend the money and that shows in his remarks when interviewed.