Everton Banter Archive August 08 2013

08 Aug 2013 21:52:56
What formation is everyone happiest with RM using? I myself prefer his 3-5-2 formation that can turn into a 5-2-2-1 when defending, I think we're more solid with this formation than the 4-2-3-1 a much as I like that formation!

Also Ed, do you expect our next signing (s) to come at the end of the window? {Ed025's Note - not the very end mate..

4-2-3-1 most of the time 3-5-2/3-4-3 for chasing games/tactical plans

4 at the back is the only way. The top clubs tend to play 4-3-3 or 4-5-1, not 3 at the back, football is a simple game
MJ

I'd like to see a 3-5-2 but with super Kev played as 2nd striker and given a free role to maraud around the pitch and exploit weak points.

08 Aug 2013 20:03:36
At the moment all the rumours of uniteds supposedly 30 or 50 million double bid for felli and baines are just that, rumours. If united are serious about wanting both players I would like BK to take a leaf outta spurs chairman Daniel Levy, s book and quote a ridiculous price for both players and stick to it. If that price doesn't get met and providing that both players don't ask for a transfer we still have 2 players under contract happy to stay at everton. If the ridiculous price is met and that most of that money was guaranteed to be reinvested in the team then I think we would be mad not to take it imo

08 Aug 2013 18:53:59
Whatever happened to the Belgian vadis ofoe ed? Ino he was a moyes target but just wondering if he's still available and would ye make a move for him?

ShabbaEFC {Ed025's Note - still at brugge shabba, i dont know of any interest lately mate..

08 Aug 2013 14:53:58
If we sell Baines and Fellaini, we will go backwards. It is as simple as that. We need to add to what we have already got. People commenting on here and elsewhere astating that we need to sell, we are skint. the usual sh**. But Kenright said that we we in a good position financially. To me that doesn't mean that one our our best assets must go. Just because there has been no transfer activity of late does not mean we are skint! I expect 2 signings without sales. what do you think ed. {Ed025's Note - i expect that as well mate, i just hope we can hold on to the crown jewels..

08 Aug 2013 13:44:29
Kenwright should sell felliani to highest bidder, like moyes is guna do to rooney. don't want moyes to get him but he he leaves I hope it not to united.

Why do think utd holding off a Felliani bid. could be a long shot but rumours coming out of crocky are utd will not sell rooney to any of its challengers. rooney doesn't want to go abroad. utd are holding fire to look at its options but the idea of a trade with Felliani hasn't been dismissed by both parties, and rooney isn't against the idea. wages are not suppose to be a major issue. but the main issue is utd want to keep this option available as long as possible. hence no more bids for Baines of Felliani until rooney is settled,. makes sense if u think about it. if its a reality well u never know.

08 Aug 2013 10:55:37
If Fellani and Baines go we should sign marrone alderweireld. Jorginho for starters

08 Aug 2013 23:20:26
what about the main course?

sagey

If Fellani and Baines go RM will soon be signing on.

08 Aug 2013 10:13:35
Anyone think there is something going on with Rooney if he wants to leave then a written transfer request basically publicly announces that most fans think that anyway he is keeping quiet about the whole thing I have a funny feeling he may be coming back in a deal with fellani and baines or one of them if kenwright does sell one or both of them he knows the fans won't be happy so he has to soften the blow a bit signing him surely will patch things over I know wages would be the stumbling block but Rooney would love to fire us into champions league and 20 goals which would see us generate much more revenue we have to start taking some risks as to get champions league is getting harder and rooney earns that money because he can win you things

Get rooney make evertons marketing men earn ther money,. everyone goes on about wages. rooney generates money. sponserships would increase. anyone who thinks we wouldn't make money on rooney is niave to say the least. he's still only 27, he plays in the most watched league in the world and is still England's no 1 player,. given utd are miles ahead of everton. but the romance of rooney going back to the club he supported while still in his prime would be the platform for everton to maybe get investment. but to make a major statement again. wages should nt be an issue. the English PL is a global force now. market him and make a bucketful of money.

Good shout! and if he did get 20+goals to push us into the Europa Cup that is even more revenue. and, a BIG and, if into the Champions League even more dosh etc etc.

"need to speculate to accumulate ". take note Uncle Bill!

I think you'll find you're the naive one. Everton are tied into several commercial deals for several more years which can't be renegotiated. Rooney coming won't change that.
Besides the most important thing, his wages, are way more than we can afford. Can you see him taking a two/thirds pay cut because I can't?

What commercial deals Chang and Nike if u get rooney things change. everton would have the number one England player who is globally recognised. i'm afraid u are niave,. sponser deals change with exposure. rooney brings that,. everton would only prosper with rooney.

If your in the film industry the bigger the star the more backing your film gets. its the same concept in football even at the small end of a rooney deal. ie shirt sales, more games on tv, goodison would be a sell out every week. I understand sceptics sayin about wages but he has been the icon of the biggest global merchandising team in the world. if we stay in this mindset of mediocrity we will never achieve anything. rooney will only make money.

We get a pitiful amount compared to other clubs from Chang, c. £3/4m per season and WE can't renegotiate it for another season or 2. We get £3m a year from KITBAG, not a penny from Nike. This deal has around 6 or 7 years to go. I can't see these companies queueing up to pay us more when they're not obliged to neither can I see anyone investing or buying us just because we acquire a fat overweight 'has-been'

Doesn't matter whether we sell 2 Rooney shirts or 259 million we get £3m from kitbag. Fixed amount- nonnegotiable for several years. Same deal with Chang- fixed amount regardless of who plays for us.
When these deals expire then yes, we can renegotiate and expect more if we have a global 'superstar' (fat overweight has been). Until then it's all pie in the sky, wishful thinking, as he's not going to take a £150k hit on his weekly wages.

Everton are not succesful or big enough for Rooney. END OF STORY

08 Aug 2013 09:54:31
All the rumours about Felli and Baines make me laugh. It is quite a simple situation really. Firstly, we do not want to sell. Secondly if a club wishes to buy either player, they must offer us the market value as we see it. If they offer less, then we have every right to refuse to deal and make the player honour his contract. Then at the end of his contract the player can leave on a free. The confusion happens when a player then refuses to put effort in during the middle of his contract and upsets the squad. eg Suarez now. I do not think Baines is that sort of person. Felli may be? So until a big enough offer comes in, they are both our players. Everton Football Club are acting exactly as they should and what will be will be. I just hope that we do not have another Lescott/Rooney situation whereby the players try to force a transfer. Like Mr Suarez is at the moment at our lovable neighbours. Mr Moyes is a canny negotiator, but so is Blue Bill and I trust Bill to firstly try and keep both players and secondly if one or both wish to leave, Bill will attempt to get top dollar.
Simple really.
Degsypulford

08 Aug 2013 09:19:03
Would love to see Manny Fernandes back at Everton, can create, tackle, pass, is box to box and loved the club when he was here

I mentioned getting manny last year when he was in dispute over his contract, he now plays more defensive mid, and when he breaks his skill and distribution is excellent, I would have him back, and if felli was to be sold he would be a perfect replacement.

EverTheOptimistic

"Manny" Fernandes is like Manny the mammoth in the Ice Age films: he's from the past and, although no doubt fondly remembered, his time has now come and gone and we've moved on.
Unhappy-Camper

No doubt in his skill and we all know he play more defensive. But he was here he look too much confident to keep the ball and too late pass always loss dangerous ball. So problem not performance but attitude.