Everton Banter Archive April 08 2016

08 Apr 2016 22:22:39
Been a bit of a mad week or so for us blues. Rom stating he wants to play in the CL next season, the manager refusing to publicly criticise him for doing so. Baines comes out and tells it how it is, how most of us fans actually see things, and the manager decides to 'make him apologise' to his team mates etc.
I've just read an article which says RM is basically blaming the fa cup run for our bad league form, can you believe that? I'm getting tired of the excuses that he comes out with on a regular basis instead of taking responsibility for his own failings. Let's be honest, we don't even play in that cup until January so what about Aug-Dec? I guess I'm not the only one that can't wait for the back of this season. Things need to change but it could take time, we should be thankful, not to mention patient, for our new investor and give him every opportunity to make the right decisions both on and off the pitch. Despite the doom and gloom, and ignoring our dire league form, the club is in good shape and good hands. We just shouldn't expect too many changes until this season has played out.

08 Apr 2016 23:42:26
It p**ses me off when Martinez blames other competitions (Europa last season and if this is right then the FA cup this season) what's he trying to say? 'We can only play in one completion at a time'? Every club has multiple competitions to compete in, he needs to realise it's his own failings and leave this club.

09 Apr 2016 09:36:17
If Martinez is still here next season and they don't get off to a good start, then he will put the blame on players being tired coming back from the euro internationals. Then if we win the cup isn't there an early start in the euro competition which is another distraction. So predictable.
He must go if they fail in the FA Cup, there and then.

08 Apr 2016 20:46:15
We cannot sell Lukaku because we refused to sell Stones. If one goes. they both go. and the plot thickens. We have not come out and said that Lukaku isn't for sale. so. What happens next? Time to make Lukaku toe the line or ship him out.

08 Apr 2016 23:17:28
Ship him out. He's only going to bleat on until he goes. It's damaging to the team and for us fans with no respect for either.

I said this the other day but Stones to be fair to lad has kept his gob shut since August. I wouldn't begrudge him going. We promised him something his manager could never give him.

08 Apr 2016 23:58:43
Er, just one slight problem with shipping Lukaku out, we will get relegated.
Ship out a certain person [RM] and we have a chance of keeping him.

08 Apr 2016 19:25:51
Hi ed I put a post on but its not been printed any reason why pal no swear words just how I feel bout what's going on at mo.

{Ed002's Note - It will be on one of the pages that such things get sent to.}

08 Apr 2016 19:30:07
Ok cheers if you had a choice bout efc what would u do bout a manager and players.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of Everton making any efforts at this time to look for a new manager. I suspect that there will be discussions at the end of the season and the club will consider what options it has. Those discussions may well include Roberto Martinez. If there were to be a change I would think that David Moyes would be considered. Much will also depend on who is available and I suspect Premier League knowledge would eb a big plus point. I cannot see Benitez being interested and if Newcastle drop down there are two jobs waiting for him elsewhere. Pellegrini's destination is not confirmed but my ex wife has suggested Zenit will be looking to make him an offer during April and Valencia is another possibility. There remains a chance that Mancini will be available. As a wildcard Jorge Sampaoli or even one of the up and coming managers from Europe might be worth considering. I have mentioned a bunch before and the search section will give you some names to think about. I think Gary Neville might be interested but I am far from convinced he would be a good choice.

As for the players I expect that Stones will exit the club with Lukaku.

Overall, what I suspect will happen is that external help will come in to look at where the entire business is (not just the footballing side) and where it needs to get to. In order to achieve where it needs to get to there needs to be a sensible plan (stadium, academy, involvement of the community and the local authorities, football side, commercial side etc.). From a commercial perspective there will be a big boost next season with the additional media money, and a good chunk of that will be available early to encourage summer spending. Also on the footballing side Everton will look to inform UEFA of new investment (this has to be done by December 31) which will give a short-term buffer against FFP for the 2017/18 season. I would also suspect that the plan will include the run down of BK over the next year or so and then the sale of his shares to Farhad Moshiri or Farhad Moshiri in partnership with another/others. Critically, there needs to be a plan and not knee jerk reaction.}

08 Apr 2016 20:09:42
Good info ed002, just one thing though. Do you really expect Moyes to be considered and, if so, is this something you have heard or just an assumption? Most fans want rid of Roberto but not too sure how popular a move it would be to bring back Moyes. Cheers ed.

{Ed002's Note - The text is clear.}

08 Apr 2016 23:53:53
I think the return of Moyes is on the cards. Bill still thinks a lot of him and believes there is unfinished business. David needs to eat a bit of humble pie if he returns. Moyes had a solid few years but did not have the finances to achieve anything better. He should never have got divorced to the mighty blues but was tempted by the glamour of a fling with something he thought was better but realised in the end the grass isn't greener and his new bit of stuff was poor in the sack. He then had a holiday romance in Spain but it didn't last long before his true love takes him back once he's apologised with his tail between his legs.

08 Apr 2016 20:31:32
Ed02, u clearly no your stuff. on and off the pitch. I'm interested if you were moshiri and co who would you go for (whether your a blue or not) , and why?

{Ed002's Note - Firstly you need to understand that Mr Moshiri is an Iranian businessman and not a football expert. He will, like the remaining members of the board need to take advice. If you search on the following three words you will find a thread from a couple of weeks ago that delves in to this in more detail: Bretto suggested Flores.}

09 Apr 2016 07:43:56
Thanks ed.

08 Apr 2016 19:00:12
ed a lot of my posts are not getting printed why not. no bad language nothink.

{Ed002's Note - They are repetitive piffle.}

08 Apr 2016 10:16:06
Distin ruined, howard ruined, stones ruined, coleman and baines destroyed them both. How many players can this man ruin, (RM)

08 Apr 2016 11:30:07
Come on distin and howard near ends of careers, yes distin fell out with rm, stones got given his chance under martinez and uptill last summers chelsea issues he was doing well, that changed his attutude and he's never been the same. Coleman and baines yes what's happened is to do with his clueless ideas. Lukaku has he ruined him? . Changes won't happen till the summer as most managers we are after are more concerned about there clubs finishing as high as possible or seeing what happens at other clubs. Moshiri is no fool and most bosses get shut of the main problems in there business. even if we win the cup I still think he will go.

08 Apr 2016 19:21:24
Howard at the end of his career, Distin not a yes man, Stones will be a great player but not under this Manager, Coleman, Baines, Miralas are strong characters, do not meet the Managers profile. It has been said before I know, but really the guys actual CV was totally ignored.

08 Apr 2016 19:46:14
I agree with what you say but not a lover of your name.

08 Apr 2016 21:35:14
I love your name Billsadoozy mate, love it lol.

08 Apr 2016 08:27:29
Again on TS this morning slating RM, they were disgusted with the way Baines was made to apologise for telling the truth, not long to go, 24th April MG Day.

08 Apr 2016 09:28:00
Bill Kenwright is famous for his loyalty and in general I agree with that. However, surely even Bill can see that by sticking by one person, he is alienating the bread and butter of any Club 'the fans' but more importantly it is obvious now, the moral of the playing Staff.

08 Apr 2016 09:39:19
Mr Moshiri will have the final say now Bills, he will own 100% within 8 weeks mate.

08 Apr 2016 10:01:59
Both have to go to see any improvement.

08 Apr 2016 10:28:55
Wouldnt go that far Stig, I know you don't like BK but I think you are in a minority. I think he will still have a role but Mr Moshiri will very soon be pulling all the strings.

08 Apr 2016 10:55:57
I agree stig
Bill came in to steady the ship as did moyes
With no animosity he should accept that he did his job and the way in which he " Steadied the ship" has been nothing short of the club motto and we will thank him forever
It's a different job that needs doing now and that is to turn us into contenders and Bill should pass the reigns over to the man who has accepted that task and I'm sure that's what will happen soon enough.

08 Apr 2016 13:52:28
The problem is Bill sold his train set but is still playing with it?

08 Apr 2016 18:40:54
I would love Bill to stay albeit in a non-paid non-voting executive or honoury role, the bloke is genuine and despite what some may think, really did save this Great Great Club. His weakness is his loyalty above all else, even obviously above his business head, that is because like it or not Everton is his hobby, his bread and butter is London. As others have alluded to though Mr Moshri may soon acquire the 50.01 percent to have total control.

08 Apr 2016 05:40:42
Fact. We cannot sell Lukaku because we refused to sell Stones. If one goes. they both go. and the plot thickens. We have not come out and said that Lukaku isn't for sale. so. What happens next? Time to make Lukaku toe the line or ship him out.