Everton Banter Archive November 07 2017

07 Nov 2017 23:02:55
Laurent Blanc won the league as manager of Bordeaux. He took over a French team that had imploded at 2010 World Cup so is used to managing big egos and the season he left PSG they didn't win the league after winning it every season under Blanc. He is a far superior and more experienced manager than anybody else we have been linked with and don't feel we would be taking a chance on him like Dyche or Silva. As far as I am concerned, this is a no brainer and can't believe he has not even been discussed.

08 Nov 2017 08:02:38
He's also someone who probably wouldn't touch us with a bargepole at the moment.

08 Nov 2017 19:56:13
Agree blue Tommy. As much as I'd like to have blanc or simeone it's just not going to happen.

07 Nov 2017 20:48:41
can any of the eds answer this. will the new ground go ahead if we went down and will the search for a new manager slow things down. sorry if this topic has already been covered. thanks.

{Ed025's Note - it would be severely hindered riprock, and due to corporate investment being the forerunner to the finance of it it would be put on the back burner somewhat, the manager situation will not affect things so much as im sure a suitable candidate will be found in the near future mate..

07 Nov 2017 19:01:38
Why has Laurent Blanc not been mentioned. Worked at highest level and is available immediately. More chance of him coming than Simeone and much better credentials than Dyche, Allardyce or Silva.

{Ed025's Note - i dont know to be honest Bb, i think its a good shout myself mate..

07 Nov 2017 19:43:23
Good shout Blueboy.

07 Nov 2017 18:24:17
Diego Simeone has to be a leak to say 'we tried' just before the big sam annoucement. But has got me thinking what's the biggest shock managerial annoucement you know off? Dare I say Klopp to the dark side.

07 Nov 2017 21:39:04
Klopp is very likeable but he's not exactly been a beacon of success at the dark side to be fair.

07 Nov 2017 16:55:12
I think it's way to early in the season too say it's survival, there are 27 games left that's 81 points to play for and we talk about trying to stay up, are next manager should be about who do we want not who could keep us up, prem league is like nothing else I mean if we win 2 or 3 on the bounce were top half and then people don't talk about relegation, it's nonsense to say we're in a relegation battle.

07 Nov 2017 17:22:15
Truebluemetz79. We were incredibly lucky against Watford and it might, just might turn our season around. The truth of the matter is though, that for the last few weeks and games the players confidence has been shot. Perhaps Moshri wants big Sam (never been relegated) in, to steady the ship and then start again in the Summer. He (Sam) uses sport psychologists and also follows modern methods, he is not the dinosaur, that many make him out to be.

08 Nov 2017 06:48:01
I love that the biggest thing on Sams CV, that everyone quotes, is he's never been relegated!

It must inspire everyone associated the club.

As for sports psychos. It's a myth that he is ahead of everyone else. Every club has them and analyst's plus a whole bunch of other people that contribute. Maybe 20 years ago he was with a select few but now all this stuff is part of the club already.

Why do we want to start in the summer? We still have so much to play for now. It's the start of November not March or April.

08 Nov 2017 09:39:01
That's the scary thing BlueJohnUns, all these sports psychologists and our players look shell shocked and as for the analysts they need sacking as my gripe this season is and continues to be how deep we defend.

07 Nov 2017 13:56:46
We're not going to get Simione, we may get Dyche, we could get Silver but probably get Allerdyce.

07 Nov 2017 11:20:46
Schneiderlin denying any fall out and saying he remains committed to the club, fans etc. Not sure what happened, if anything but he needs to regain the form he showed when first signed.

07 Nov 2017 09:25:57
Slight change of tack here. I know most of us are not looking forward to the imminent (allegedly! ) appointment of big Sam but from what I'm reading the West ham fans are livid about moyes being given the job there.
I don't forgive home for the way he treated us it he may be a success there. Very similar club to ourselves.

07 Nov 2017 06:43:38
Sorry to say it but if allerdyce come in then I will never step foot in goodison again even after he has left I will be finished with football altogether this club stinks to high heaven if this happens it will be golf for me full time I'm afraid I will stop watching football altogether.

07 Nov 2017 07:18:57
I'm with you skylark. Never liked the arrogant tosser. I can't be a hypocrite and start cheering him.66yrs and I am done. Won't even watch them on the television. Golf and rugby for me.

{Ed025's Note - i think we all know my position on allardyce dylan, i cant stand the guy and think he is totally wrong for the club, my problem is though that im a an evertonian first and foremost and whatever comes or goes i cannot stop supporting my club, am i happy hes coming?..absolutely not, will i be chanting his name if he does well?...no way, he epitomizes everything i despise about football and presume and hope this is a temporary measure to stabilize the club then make way for a proper coach and decent person to come in next summer,but if he gets the gig for an extended period then i may have to rethink my options mate..

07 Nov 2017 07:33:34
walter smith, billy bingham tested my loyalty when they were appointed many moons ago and if big sam does end up here i will not be pleased. however you got to do what you got to do. i don't think any top class manager would touch us now, plus we need stability and dare i say it he would bring that. hopefully it's just rag talk, but i'm not holding my breath waiting on the likes tuchel or silva.
once a blue always a blue, it's in your blood.

{Ed025's Note - im in the same predicament leinster, i remember the depression of the gordon lee era as well mate which took me to the brink, it can be very hard being an evertonian at times..

07 Nov 2017 08:00:24
Maybe its easier for me to say because I'm not a fan but I disagree with the first post. If your a proper fan you'll support them through anything.

I agree should he be appointed it's terrible for your club it's going backwards if that is the case and I understand the frustration but you are after all a fan? just because thing's are looking pretty terrible it doesn't mean you suddenly stop been a fan? I don't understand that to be honest.

I do sympathise with you as Everton fans at this moment in time because what's going on is just one thing after another and it's dragging your club through dirt.

Point is no matter what happens at a club, if your a TRUE fan your a fan, you support them no matter what. There's tons of stuff over the years I haven't been happy with at Liverpool but never have I once even thought of not supporting them anymore or the sport because of it, sometimes you just have to get on with it however difficult it is.

Please understand I'm not having a dig or anything I'm just saying I thought it's a bit harsh that's all.

07 Nov 2017 08:02:52
i'm with you on that ed.

07 Nov 2017 08:03:41
Good, post ed. I've been through all the managers mentioned. Stood in boys pen watching Pickering, Young, etc. Goodison and Everton will always be in my blood. I was willing to give him a chance when he got the England job because he appeared to want it so bad. Then his greed raised its ugly head. let's see who they appoint.

{Ed025's Note - i expect it to be allardyce dylan..

07 Nov 2017 08:06:11
I'd rather unsworth got the job than that man. I think he may have turned a corner. it's really testing me. I said I wouldn't set foot in ground if he comes. I'm dithering now. but he is everything wrong with football.

07 Nov 2017 08:14:47
Cheers Ed if true I'm done. I am a blue always will be. If you cut me ill bleed blue. I've really enjoys reading the comments on here over the years. Also the eds comments which have been very knowledgeable. If your right about his appointment I will be gutted. It will be cheers and good bye from me.

{Ed025's Note - im sorry to hear that dylan, i do know how you feel though and im hopeful that this is a purely temporary measure and that this charletan will be ditched when a suitable applicant is found mate..

07 Nov 2017 08:37:04
I love our club and cannot stop supporting us but will have such a bitter taste of he comes in. Not a bad manager by all accounts but his outside of football behaviour was atrocious.

07 Nov 2017 08:52:26
Bye, I will follow the blues whatever.

07 Nov 2017 09:25:26
Good for you gtl. Total respect each to their own though. The thought of him with Everton badge on his chest on the touchline is not for me.

07 Nov 2017 10:23:15
glt59 = a true fan!

07 Nov 2017 10:30:40
on talksport now, allardyce saying he hasn't spoken to moshiri.

07 Nov 2017 11:08:45
I think we may just get a surprise appointment, knowing the way EFC work we never seem to get the favourite with the boookies whether that be a player or a manager. Hopefully it will not be Allardyce as i agree with most above and maybe the win at Watford might just be the points we needed to persuade Moshiri that we do not need to panic appoint.
God forbid if he does come we don't guarantee him a big budget in January to buy his type of players because that will take seasons to rectify.

07 Nov 2017 15:35:49
Ive supported us for over 50 years. Good times and bad, great managers and fools, brilliant players and donkeys. They've all come and gone and I am still here. So stop all the moaning about who is in charge because we support the club not any particular man, and in all those 50 years I've never been consulted over appointments or signings and I've loved every minute of it. And i would rather watch some of the dross currently being served up than any amount of pretty stuff the others do because we are EVERTON.

07 Nov 2017 15:38:19
For me he is everything Everton is not. I hope to God to doesn't get it. Anyone out there would be my choice before him. Such a lack of ambition if it is him.

Then on top of that I've got to sit there watching utter rubbish football. We'll forget what the grass looks like looking up at the sky for 90 minutes.

07 Nov 2017 16:20:41
Got to admit that I'm having the same thoughts, not sure if I will go to the games if SA gets the job. Will just have to find a mug to take my season ticket! He's a pompous, over-hyped, over-rated manager and is a bit greedy when it comes to making a few quid on the side. If we have any aspirations to eventually break the top four then this is a few steps backwards.
Corleone, I get what you are saying but disagree entirely. I know you don't visit our site to wind people up and you usually have valid points so there is a healthy level of respect from us to yourself. That said, I class myself as a fan and have been since I was a kid, first game in '82. I'm lucky that I've seen us achieve success but I've also seen some tripe, both managers and players. Walker was a poor appointment, no question about it. I felt a bit sorry for Smith as he had to work under one of the worst chairmen in our history. Little cash to spend and players sold behind his back. Moyes did well but let himself down the moment he left with his comments and derisory bids for our players. For me, fat Sam would be like going back in time, his style of football is dull and boring his reluctance to play kids goes against everything that our club stands for. So I will be forced to think long and hard whether or not I want to spend my time watching such dross that he tends to serve up. That doesn't mean I'm not a fan, I will still look out for my team just maybe not from my usual seat. If we had ten games left and in trouble I may have a different outlook on this man, given his track record at escaping relegation. It's far too early to believe we will be in the mire, although we still need to improve our form, or to call for such desperate measures as employing fireman sam in my opinion!

07 Nov 2017 16:49:41
Good post. My sentiments exactly.

08 Nov 2017 01:26:37
Leeds unt, have been trying to get back to the top flight for 16 years, sheffild wed, n/ forest, Derby, and Sunderland look like they may drop to div one, even Villa, might not make it back.
So, even though Allerdice cannot be certain to keep us up, I think some of the football purests should consider the fact that with relagation the whol dream, new ground and all, would come tumberling down, so, with respect to many other posters, I would take Sam in a heartbeat.