Everton Banter Archive July 07 2013

07 Jul 2013 23:44:34
Heard tonight from a very good source that victor moses was seen on route up to finch farm! My source was travelling up on via m6 and when stopped at services for a kfc and in walks moses along with man in suit believed to be his agent. My source confirmed he had a breif conversion with victor and he confirmed he was due for talks as a deal has been agreed for felli and he is part of deal, he then proceeded to say he was looking forward to working alongside roberto once again, before his agent ushered him back into his awaiting car!

Good business in my opinion! Young, pacey with a eye for goal!

The Bootle Bison {Ed007's Note - It always amazes how people can tell what footballing agent looks likes. They are never spotted anywhere outside of the transfer window, I think it must be if you wear a suit in the summer you are an agent.}

I thought Chelsea lost interest Fellaini a while ago

Just bought a happy meal from maccies and honda's agent popped out of the box and said he will be signing in the next '48' hours WATCH THIS SPACE

Oh look, a flying pig :

Why do people make this type of s*** up. If Moses is buying KFC he'll be fat as before long anyway.

You had me at "Very good source".

If someone is standing with, and talking to, a professional footballer in a motorway service station in a different part of the country to where the footballer lives / works - and he's aged say 30-50, wearing a suit whilst the player may not be, and its during the transfer window, and its known the footballer is not entirely settled at his existing club - then it just may be possible that the suited guy could be his agent

Moses would be a good signing but the story is a bit suss to me!

It was slightly convincing till ye came out with being part of a felliani transfer, I don't think moses is that good meself and if he's going to be fit for the new season the business man behind him in the queue should tell him to jog the rest of the way to burn it off

MikeDeBlue

Cause if your wearing a suit you must be an agent if he had a black car he is defo an agent no questions ask

No chance mate I play football wi his brother he said only if everton would pay £90 grand a week so it ain't gunna happen

08 Jul 2013 19:21:44
Could be his minder at the man in the suit aged 30-50

07 Jul 2013 20:43:40
Just want to skip to the end of this transfer window and see the squad for next season. Excited but hope we don't lose baines

I'm with you on that, already we have a great team but as you say IDE love to see the finished team exciting times ahead, also if you remember if moyes played two games he would play for two draws were as Martinez would prob play for one win one defeat which we needed last year getting all those draws would of made a big difference

That's probably why they went down like moyes make yourselves hard to beat and you have a chance in every game he was a top manager stop slagging him off he got offered the top job in football how could he turn down a club where he can achieve his ambitions he gave us 11 years and I for one am grateful and his work will not be forgotten his DNA is in the club now from top to bottom

Just going to put this out there, we should be going for to wins lad sorry. LIAM!

Not saying nothing bad towards moyes but pointing out that there was many games he would sit back for a draw, Martinez got relegated because most of his team were s*** now he got a great team with Martinez attacking approach all those draws we got last years could be wins giving us a top four finish, I loved moyes your right his DNA is in the club but we need to advance on what we got

There was around 6/7 times last season we dominated teams but only scored 1 then around 70th minute we sat back for no reason and drew, cost us big time, to the guy who said we should be hard to beat, I agree but you got to wiegh up each match, we drew games against poor teams who offere nothing in the match

I hated the way we would we winning 1-0 and instead of putting pressure on their defence by bringing on another attacking player he would bring our only striker off for a defender and the pressure would then be on our defence as we had no outlet and we would end up drawing 1-1, I remember tottenham at home a couple of seasons ago exactly the same winning 1-0 defender for striker tottenham score 1-1. Hopefully Roberto has more balls than the ginger manc t*at.

07 Jul 2013 18:15:53
Why are people posting about every young lad at barca and Madrid for us to get on loan just because we've been linked with one lad. Pathetic

07 Jul 2013 16:51:04
Jese Rodriguez (Real Madrid) and Gerard Deulofeu (Barcelona) are both exciting young wingers, both available for loan this season, Everton and Spurs are interested in both. Either would be an exciting addition for everton.

Also, would everton fans take Arsenal's cash+ramsey for fellaini, if the cash bought Wanyama? Or Honda? Or someone else?

RM Fan

I want Honda more than anyone else.

07 Jul 2013 22:04:40
Would love both of these 2 but I can't see even one of them coming and at one point I thought ramsey was going to be twice the player wilshere was he was certainly the much better passer, worked harder and was more creative but he has been poor since he broke his leg and I don't rate wanyama or any celtic player for that matter

I say 24/26m (whatever his buy out clause is ) straight up cash and even that'd be cheap. If you haven't got it then go stick your noses into someone else's players and stop trying to flog us your cr* buys that didn't cut it. My money's on Sir Alex's New Puppet taking them both with him before the end of August anyway. Hate to say it but that's surely a banker

07 Jul 2013 16:01:26
The cska moscow chairman has said that milan are interested in honda but didn't even mention us.

I wish people would shut up about honda. He is not coming. Get over it.

He would go elsewhere if Milan uses him as a benchwarmer, if Milan really wanted then they would way more than 5m

To the replier saying get over it. Get over what exactly were still in with a shout for the lad you're pathetic

Agent to Honda : Come on, we need to make a decision, Would you like to go to Everton or Milan

Honda to Agent : I don't know, its such a tough decision can I think about it for another 3 seconds

Agent to Honda : I will book the flights to Mialn then shall I? {Ed025's Note - Agent to Honda : but did,nt you say you wanted to play in the EPL? Honda to Agent : yes i do..change them flights to John Lennon..

Anyone would be stupid to pick Milan over EFC.

^ Unless you really wanna be a benchwarmer

Put the handbags away lady (although the Honda-Agent sketch made me chuckle. Nobody knows for sure do they but the chances are he is going to pick Milan over us. All the usual things. champs league competing for trophies etc but also a nice warm sunny climate. it's freezing here and always pissing down : ( Also I think they'll offer him a bigger signing on fee and better wages. Just my opinions before someone throws their shawl at me!

07 Jul 2013 01:06:57
personally think, mirallas will be our main man next year, big season for him, finished strong needs start from the off now! watch him on youtube what he can do, that goal against spurs a personal favourite, favourite mirallas goal ed? {Ed025's Note - all of them mate....but the spurs one was special..

I to believe that Mirallas will be a big player for us again this season. How ever you can't judge a player based on You Tube, they are only going to show the best of a player and not the worst. Remember Mike Bassett.

He said in an interview a few weeks ago that he didn't think himself or Felliani would be at Everton this coming season.

When did he say that?

Go on the tv website and put his name in the search engine and you'll see the article.

Haha, he did not say that. he said he doesn't know whether Fellaini will be at Everton (everyone knew that already) and said ONE DAY (not now) he would like to try his hand in the La Liga.

Go and watch the interview. he says he AND Felliani don't know if they will be there next season

Paddock blue why are you trying to twist his words?

I do have a concern that players who rely on pace, like Mirallas does to a large degree, are susceptible to getting injured, like he was for a while last season.
Also, some players seem to never miss games, whereas others seem to play a run of games (putting in some great performances along the way), but then get an injury and are out for several matches. Mirallas might be that type of player in the fast and physical Premier League.
I imagine that the speculation about several players (regarded as wingers in traditional terms) we're supposedly interested in signing is so that we have cover in the squad for the formation (attacking with skill and movement across the front line) that RM might want to introduce at Everton his coming season.

I'm not AJ watch the interview and judge for yourself

07 Jul 2013 07:56:57
Can you imagine what we could do with 30m to spend on players per year? I'm not talking each transfer window, just per year.
Thanks what we'd have if it wasn't for our interest payments on dodgy loans and "other operating costs. "
I know people will say better the devil you know and look at Venky's etc. let's not forget those teams couldn't fill an egg cup, 25,000 per game and their attendance continue to fall.
We need to heap pressure on this board and get them out! How dare they run us into the ground and ask for £150m! They haven't invested a fraction of that in. Infact it's been £1.6m a year for the last 15 years!
Come on blues, the only best interest they have at heart is their own.
Lets get together as we have done before and oust these clowns before we're travelling to Grismsby on match days.

Dave M

Come on mate, its easy to make a statement like that not so easy to put into practice,
BK openly admits he is trying to sell but cannot find a buyer. he is a fan and wants what's best for the club particularly long term. Its Also not great business acumen to do yourdealing in public
Keep the ffaith, the board will change when we gone the right buyer/s and they do have to be the right people or we could end up a lot worse off

This debt should never still be getting paid off. And if the board been a little bit braver we would be in the champions league by now. Poor marketing. Poor kit deal. I would not let them run my business

Come on Dave let's stop this madness right now. Their is a group of people who have been saying this for years now. "If the board don't go we will be playing Championship football next year".
Yet every year we finish in the top half of the table, and while I believe that we belong higher up challenging foe Europe you only need to see the teams above us and realise that even 30 mill a season might still not be enough to reach our goal.
Lets try to turn your negative outlook into getting on board with the team and let's try to enjoy the coming season. {Ed025's Note - well said micky..

We get all this negative talk every year, blame the board, blame BK, blame Moyes etc etc. "If we have £X million and a new stadium blah blah we could be in the top four. "

Then when players sign for smaller clubs (Mostly those that are over priced, or even those that we as fans may want but perhaps the manager does not) that is used to try and show a lack of ambition on behalf of the board, yet those clubs that out spend us year in year out, do they finish above us? On the whole no they do not, so why is that the case? They spend the money everyone complains we do not, yet we finish higher, does that not say that somewhere along the lines the club as a whole is doing something right?

Let us have a dose of reality here for a moment, the position that Everton FC have at this moment in time as one of the top six clubs in the Premier League, this has been achieved by the current board, when they took over we were relegation fodder every year, then after years of the press claiming we were "punching above our weight and were lucky" we are now grudgingly accepted as a top six side as we have done it year after year and no one can be that lucky. Do BK and the board get any credit for that from the people who complain? No just more moans about something else.

Yes some points made are valid, our marketing is poor, we have not seemed to take advantage of off field opportunities, and the communication skills of the club as a whole need some serious work. All of those are problems sure and do need addressing, however, they have not stopped us becoming a top six side.

Goodison is in serious need of refurbishment or a new ground is needed, can BK or the current board be held responsible for this? Not really. And this is the crux of the matter where a take over is concerned, Everton is a business like any other, most investors are just that investors, the clue is in the name. They invest money into a project to make profit, that is something that at Everton is not going to happen, the cost of purchase of the club, a new ground, debts incurred (not just by this board) and investment in the team is not going to return profit to potential investors for a lot of years if ever as it is a huge risk, investors who are just that, not Everton FC fans, they are in it for the money not the love of the club.

Okay, so that leaves one other option. A bored billionaire who is looking for a new toy, if there is one out there great, but I imagine they are few and far between, hence BK not finding one.

Try looking at the positives and see what the club has achieved and is trying to expand on with the resources we do have, rather than throwing childish wobbler's about what we do not have or should have in some fantasy world.

You never know, we just may reach the promised land of the Champions League and get to where we would all like the club to be. {Ed025's Note - thats one of the best posts i have read on here...well done WtG..

Cheers Ed, am just fed up of the moaners putting a downer on what should be a exciting new season for us.

Well done WtG excellent post which must have hit some raw nerves as the perennial moaners on here don't have either a valid argument or the intellectual wherewithal to respond.

WtG. Brilliant statement.

Although I agree wholeheardely with most of your excellent post WtG I think we have to flip the coin and understand that a lot of fans get frustrated when the see clubs with a much lower revenue/fan base etc constantly outspend us in the transfer market. Yes we have made excellent strides over the years. How much of that was down to David Moyes is yet to be seen but will be answered over the next few years.

I think that people think "what if" we spent that type of money. with the team we already have a spend of say 30 million could propel us into the top 4 no problem and the club could have massive financial revenue from champions league but we can't do it. fans get frustrated and as with any situation the top brass get the flack.

The board do have things to answer for not least 2 bungled stadium bids which have no doubt landed debt at our door. as you touched upon, the marketing side of things is woeful, the way we conduct our business (announcing transfers on the os then saying the players failed a medical) and stuff like that makes us look shoddy and unprofessional/ The badge fiasco then the "public" apology that went with it. It's amature-ish at best so they only have themselves to blame when the flac fires there way.

You're absolutely spot on with the stadium scenario THIS is what is stopping anyone buying us. I don't know the figures but let's say Kenwright wanted £100 mil for us (I'm just being hypothetical here before I'm jumped on) 300 mil for a ne stadium would we say? say 50 million to clear our debts and then 100 mil fo new players probably with all the admin work involved running into 600 million pounds. unless you get the "bored zillionair" we're basically goosed.

So in summary until we do get one I think we're best off exactly where we are, safe and surviving in a global recession with clubs going under by the bucketload. I'm glad we are here now and not a Pompy etc. {Ed025's Note - good stuff that paddo mate..

07 Jul 2013 01:15:07
Apparently kone will be unveiled in the next 48 hours. I have seen this every day for the last 96hours (4 days). let's just wait and see.

Oh yer, Honda will be an unveiled in the next 48 hours. They are just processing the paperwork

Are you being serious on Honda?

I think he was being sarcastic you know mate

I think the delay may be down to us negotiating with Alcaraz as well, so we can unveil a double signing. Just a hunch, no inside information.