Everton Banter Archive October 06 2013

06 Oct 2013 19:18:40
Think in January we need to invest in a winger, midfielder and forward. Ince, will Hughes would cost probably £11 mill and Honda although not a striker would do

Albo

06 Oct 2013 19:46:32
Ince is rubbish and has a bad attitude, will hughes although talented would cost more than 11m and won't join and I see him going to liverpool, not going to get in a discussion about honda because the last one didn't go so well so I will leave it at that

Mike-Ox Long

Watched Will Hughes recently and though the lad has a good touch he is no where near the finished product.
£2-3m would be a true market value.

Ince's attitude isn't that bad, Mike. A few people said it on here and everyone has jumped on the bandwagon without any evidence or knowledge on the matter at all. He is also a good player. For the right price (around £5m) he would be a good buy. People need to forgot Honda and Will Hughes is very good, but we will be priced out by Liverpool and co. £2-3m is ridiculous, Smith. He is worth more than that now and has the potential to be worth 10x that.

07 Oct 2013 16:44:54
im not jumping on any bandwagon mate he like jack wilshire seems very cocky, arrogant and comes across as someone who spits his dummy put if he loses the ball on the training pitch, do I have evidence of this? no but he seems that way maybe an assumption isn't good enough and if ince is so good why isn't all the big ubs after him, from what I heard only cardiff made an approach he is also in the final 8 months of his contract playing in the championship so 5m is too much I would say 2m at most under those circumstances and will hughes worth 2-3m max shut up mate about 14-18m they could get for him even though he isn't worth it yet

Mike-Ox Long

AB1878 have you watched Will Hughes live and not media highlights?
I watched him recently when Reading beat Derby 3 - 1 at Pride Park. Guthrie ( ex Newcastle) bossed midfield and Hughes didn't manage to beat one Reading player in a forward run, he flitted around midfield making short square passes and created absolutely nothing.
He has potential, under the right coaching, but no team in their right mind would pay £10-11m for potential.

I meant £11 mill for ince and Hughes

Albo

If we need players now then getting 2 that need to develop makes no sense, we have a few players for the future we need better holding midfielders, osman makes no impression on the opposiotion and actually recently has offered little going foward.

06 Oct 2013 18:30:54
Is it time we introduced a three challenge rule refs dodgy decisions?

they have it in cricket or rugby tennis etc

important games can't just be decided on dodgy ref decisions

of course FIFA is corrupt - so they won't want it - they can't easily stitch things up if teams had 3 challenges for obviously dodgy decisions

who would NOT want this introduced?
No one - with only three challenges it would not slow up or ruin the game

I'd love it. Of course, some decisions will go against us when we won't want them to, but we'll certainly get so many more decisions given in our favour . Whether the decisions we get would be cancelled out by the ones other teams get is another matter, but it would certainly make it a far fairer game.

Referees just need to be scrutinised more. If they don't score enough in a game, they're relegated to League 2 for a month.

League 2 is too good for Jon Moss, he was feckin' disgraceful. In any other walk of life that level of incompetence in a job would be met with an immediate dismissal.
I haven't witnessed that standard of pathetic refereeing since the Clattenburg derby. I've seen sunday league refs more competent than him. Should be kicked down to the blue square league, or whatever it's called, for a few seasons and even that will be too good for the dog.

So you weren't impressed then?

I think he achieved what he was paid to do not buy the fa but city no one could convince me otherwise. tom efc

06 Oct 2013 14:34:10
I'm wondering, We've had 3 tremendous years from LB, when you consider he is running about 70/80 mtrs down the wing then the same back again, he's doing this around 10/15 times a game, maybe his legs can't do it any longer. Possibly time to get a new left back and move LB into left mid where he will prolong his career and give him a new lease of life. either Garbutt or Oviedo could be brought in and develop their careers. Just a thought. KK.

When you think about it, you have a point. However I don't think he'd work on LM as he is so good going forward due to Pienaar, and he's been missing recently (which is when LB has been fairly poor) so if LB went into LM, Pienaar would be missing all but permanently.

Is AVB at spurs wanting to turn LB into a new Gareth Bale, we should do it before anyone gets their hands on him.

Unfortunately Pienaar has'nt played well for some time, and yes you are right when either one is missing the other does'nt play as good, look at Pienaar at Spurs he did'nt hit it off at all. LB needs to have a good think, has United or Spurs got a player who he can play with like Pienaar, answer no, so LB don't go.

06 Oct 2013 11:20:29
for me we need a winger and while I would like valencia I wouldn't take him at the cost of baines (although 15+valencia is the best we'd get), i'd like to see if we could get pablo piatti that little argentine who plays for valencia. we were linked with him a few years ago but got told to come back with 38mil. but he is availiable end of contract cheaply. worth a punt imo ~KIWIEFC

06 Oct 2013 01:58:51
referees are human, and, as such, are subject to human error, however, when a ref makes eight or nine major "errors" and they are all in favour of one side, it starts to leave a bad smell. Am not sating we have an italian scale problem, but in view of the performance of some officials we should not be so conplacent to think it could not happen here

Even Mark Halsey was saying the ref was making strange decisions, like the lukaku penalty appeal in 1st half, where there was more contact on lukaku than there was on zabaleta when he won a penalty. Also by the time silva got booked, he should have been getting his second yellow.we just got to move on and look forward to the next game

Yes Ref's are human and do make mistakes, but this is not the first time this season a ref has cost us points with multiple bad decisions.

I'm not for a minute suggesting there is any kind of sinister problem going on in the Premier league other than poor performance. But the quality and consistency level of ref's needs to be taken in hand by the FA and sorted out soon.

06 Oct 2013 12:12:55
I don't think either of them were enough for a penalty, you have to wonder if they are encouraged to give decisions for the benefit of the tv audience, if they don't then they might not get the high profile game next time. Alternatively they could just be rubbish.

It also happened last year i, e newcastle, 2 goals disallowed that weren't anything wrong with them. tom efc