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06 Jun 2013 23:46:18
I was as excited as everyone by the champions league claim by Martinez, but i've read a few articles saying that he said "wigan could challenge for the top half and Europe" following survival in the first season.
Not sure if this is true, can anyone shed any light?
Alex
What did you want him to say that Wigan were going to challenge for Europe?
06 Jun 2013 23:12:03
With Mucha getting released and our only other goalkeeper being Springthorpe, what do you reckon the chances are that Joel Robles will come on loan (or permanently) from Atletico Madrid, considering he was at Wigan last year?
06 Jun 2013 22:50:08
Why are we assuming Martinez is going to sign Wigan players, what he said in the press conference sounded like Wigan is going to be the last place he is going to get players from! Looking at his facial expressions and the tone of his voice when asked about Wigan players it was a no.
TC
Great! None of them are good enough for me, we already have better players
06 Jun 2013 22:39:44
I just can't believe some of the players being talked about on this site, no wonder the club have got away with taking nil satis from our badge, if these are the type of mediocre players that the fans are happy with! If we can't afford the current top players, we need to be looking at the next young superstars coming through, start by improving our scouting network across the world. Remember, NOTHING BUT THE BEST!
Couldn't agree more. We already have a good side, so let's buy quality not quantity.
06 Jun 2013 22:31:04
hi fellas just a thought about young john stones wasnt he ready to sign for wigan until we made r move maybe him and duffy as centre back back ups my cousin is from barnsley and was made up when we signed him told me he was brilliant as a centre back
06 Jun 2013 22:00:27
Jh and jeli to leave to fund vydra and kona. From Voyle
06 Jun 2013 21:59:07
Leroy fer just scored winner for u21s against Germany
Does anybody know if we're still interested in him?
06 Jun 2013 21:48:18
Could we for the first time in many, many years not see our best players sold before the start of the season.
I want all who finished the season to be with us in August, it's ok people saying we could get £23m for Felli but some of the ridiculous prices being touted for cr** players because of Prem TV money means we will end up in a worse position.
Fair enough if he wants to go we can't stop him because of clause
Please don't sell Baines -one of the top players in euro at mo.
I don't think we will be in a bad position at all as I think Roberto will use his knowledge of the Spanish and South American market to buy us new players.
06 Jun 2013 21:45:09
Anyone else bemused on why we agreed to a 15m buyout clause for Fellani?
How I wish we had a Levy to do our deals instead of the wusses at Everton.
07 Jun 2013 06:25:00
We didnt
It's more like 24 milllion isn't it? Plus Daniel Levy's a muppet
You might be right. It was reported yesterday the 15m and looks inaccurate.
Levy is a muppert but he always gets a good deal. I'd rather have that than wimps at goodison.
06 Jun 2013 21:37:24
Just a bit of fun, here's what I think the top 10 will look like next year and why:
1st - Chelsea: I think with Mourinho back they will be unstoppable with the players they have, plus it's likely they're going to add 2 or 3 more quality players.
2nd - United: I would have said United 1st had Mourinho not come back. The transition from Ferguson to Moyes will be smooth imo, with a few new additions they will do well, plus Ferguson will still have some type of input.
3rd - City: Just don't rate some of the signings they have made so far, plus they will have a new manager who is unproven in the Prem and most of their players with the exception of Hart, Kompany and Zabaleta have ego's the size of Brendan Roger's ass, so if things aren't going as planned I can see some of them taking strops etc.
4th - Arsenal: This was a hard one, I think Arsenal will just edge like this season because firstly, they have a fairly big transfer budget this season plus Wenger has always managed to get them into the Champions League places one way or another.
5th - Tottenham: Again, this was a hard one because I could have easily put Everton in this position but with Gareth Bale it's a sort of a win-win situation as if he stays they will still have one of the best players in Europe in their team who can turn a game on its head in an instant, but if he goes then they can re-invest the £60 mil or so they get for him back into the squad.
6th - Everton: I believe our team will adapt to Martinez's style of play fairly easy and it's looking as though we will have a decent transfer kitty to play around with, also I think Jelavic and Mirallas will thrive under Martinez, Jela got most of his goals last season and the season before from balls into his feet inside the area and that's what Martinez tries to implement, and we can all see what a class act Kev is going to be.
7th - Swansea: They have a really good manager in Laudrup and I can only see them getting stronger next season. They play very attractive football and score quite a few goals, plus Laudrup will probably unearth another gem like Michu for buttons.
8th - West Brom: I think a large part of their success last season was down to one man, Lukaku. It looks unlikely that he'll be going back on loan but even so, I think Steve Clarke looks a promising manager and up until about December I think WBA were about 5th or 4th so I think they'll do well by their standards next season.
9th - Liverpool: They're sh*t and are the laughing stock of the Prem. Overrated manager and overrated players, it's about time teams stopped showing them respect and going at them. They're not the side they were 10 years ago so stop treating them like they are.
10th - West Ham: As much as I don't like the fat headed fraud that is Sam Allardyce, he has his teams well organised and fairly hard to break down so I see them drawing quite a few games next year with a few wins thrown in there too. Plus, they'll probably add a few new faces anyway.
Let us know what you think lads.
BitterBlue
So you don't rate Fernandhinio then?. This is the player that tore your champions elect apart. You must have missed that my friend.
06 Jun 2013 21:33:01
Buy Belgium Luka Luka, defour, a keeper and Sinclair
That will do for now?
Who the hell is luka luka?
06 Jun 2013 20:13:43
Lets get away from the idea that Martinez will sign half the Wigan team, he'd have stayed there if he wanted them. He won't be splashing out 12m+ on established stars either. Hopefully he will have his eye on relatively unheralded talent elsewhere available at sensible prices. Be honest, how many of us had heard of Miralas, Benteke, Michu or Schneiderlin this time last year. I imagine this is the type of level we will be shopping at so don't moan if the first couple through the door happen to be someone you've never heard of. that's why he is our manager and not us. Best of luck Roberto and welcome.
RickTee
Completely agree Rick, if we can find a Benteke or Michu to go with our squad would be very handy. Who knows the 'dream' of CL might just become a reality.
MAC
06 Jun 2013 19:49:27
I am the only one who doesn't really want any Wigan players? I wouldn't mind McCarthy or McManaman, but other than that? No to Kone, Alcaraz, Di Santo etc. think Kone is good but he's too old (he's 29 or 30) and Alcaraz & Di Santo etc aren't really good enough IMO, they play for a championship side now
The only plus about Alcaraz is that if/when Heitinga leaves, we will need cover and if he's going to just be back up it would be good to get him on a free
So you do want Wigan players. just McCarthy and McManaman.
MAC
You forgot to mention that they are also FA Cup winners and playing in Europe.
Don't want any Wigan players as they're not good enough, especially the ones you've mentioned. I believe he'll bring one with him from Wigan and you haven't even listed him.
06 Jun 2013 19:33:00
why would a team like everton want to go for championship players from wigan their are crap we need game changes not bench players
get luklua on loan and sign soldado
true everton fan
You mean when we signed the like of Jags, Cahill, Lescott from the championship that kind of crap do you mean?
Cahill come from the championship! Jlaff
Wasn't Baines signed from Wigan? Blue Andy
06 Jun 2013 18:57:58
Right blues let's see if I can get you to use your imagination:
Who would you sign if you couldn't sign anyone from mighty, relegated Wigan.
Go out and invest a bit of time to research a bargain and see what you can come up with. Remember our constraints and work within that.
For me, it would be:
Ins:
Dries Mertens - £12 mil.
Kevin Strootman - £28 mil.
Lukaku - Loan
Moses - Loan
Fer - £7 mil.
Outs:
Fellaini - £26 mil.
Heitinga - £4 mil.
Gueye - £1 mil.
Team next season:
Howard
Coleman Jagielka Distin Baines
Mertens Fer Strootman Pienaar
Lukaku Mirallas
Not impossible if Martinez is backed with a decent transfer budget.
BitterBlue
06 Jun 2013 20:45:31
I don't need to spend any money, just swap Felly for Lukaku, that will do
BlueJohn:
After giving this a lot of thought I reckon we should snap up without any further delay, pull out all the stops, leave no stone unturned, go the extra yard, In fact sweat blood if we have to
But c'mon Roberto what about those meat and potato pies MMMmmmm :)
McCarthy and Mcmanaman, and maybe Alceraz for a bit of cover as seen he will be free, but nobody else.
I'd personally go for Eric Chuopo-Moting. Young Cameroonian forward for Mainz, strong, pacy with quite a good finish - can play LW/ST. Got quite a good goal return for a young guy, would cost £3-5mil probably.
I'd get a new keeper cause Howard's ageing.
A new centre-back cause Heitinga's s****
A new left-mid cause Peanuts isn't doing so well.
A new centre-mid cause Ossie is ageing and If Felli is off then that's 2.
And a new striker cause Jelavic is off form.
McManaman, Lescott or Williams, Fer, McCarthy (Reading Keeper), and Negredo.
Why oh why do we not seem to appreciate the qualities Darron Gibson brings to our midfield?
He wasn't fully fit for a great part of last season but still performed really well. When he was injured the team was unbalanced and vulnerable.
06 Jun 2013 21:20:46
Your beginning to bore me now every 5 minutes banging on about us signing wigan players and moaning but to answer your question i'd swap heitinga for thiago silva and vic for messi wouldn't mind that ronaldo in a swap deal for naismith
Nacer Chadli? Only has one year left on contract. Jeremy Toulalan? Very experienced, available for around 4m. Diego Capel? Again contract nearing the end. Douglas? On a free apparently?RW
Out:
Heitinga - £4m
Gueye - £2m
Naismith - £2m
Board Contribution - £12m
In:
Honda - £3.5m
McCarthy - £7.5m
Dragovic - £4m
McManaman - £3m
Reserve GK - £1m
Lukaku - £1m Season Loan
Team for Next Year:
Howard
Coleman Jagielka Dragovic Baines
Gibson Fellaini McCarthy
Mirallas Honda
Lukaku
Wow, that team would get us in the top 4 easily. Easily.
Blueskittle that's the spirit. I'm just trying to expand your horizons. But hey if you want mediocrity for the club that's fine. Me I'll carry on thinking big.
07 Jun 2013 08:20:59
Mediocrity? Who said I want that are you forgetting we signed cahill, jags, baines from championship or very low premier league teams? Yeah those three are the opitimy of mediocrity I just think mccarthy is a good footballer and would add to what we have whereas you think just because they play for a championship team that they are crap oh by the way loic remy, granero and julio cesar play for championship teams are they crap aswell? And to answer your op in a nice way
Out:
Magaye gueye
Victor anichebe
John heitinga
In:
James mccarthy
Mbokani
Vladimir weiss (an actual decent winger who is on a free I think)
Fair dinkum Blueskittle.
I might be wrong and you might be right. That's the beauty of football and if we all agreed it really would be boring.
Totally agree with the three to move out of the club and wouldn't argue with the three in.
06 Jun 2013 18:46:20
says in the tv column page that martinez will go for mcgeady personally I think he's crap what's your thoughts fellow blues?
Over-rated and greedy. Personally I'd prefer Sinclair over Mcgreedy
Never seen enough of him to make a fair judgment.
06 Jun 2013 21:23:43
One trick pony looks good on highlight reels on youtube but from what I've seen he's awful
06 Jun 2013 18:18:50
I can't wait to see RM build his team to get the best out of Kevin Mirallas. Fellaini, Baines, Barkley aside although I love them all and want them to stay, the one guy who we have that can do the extraordinary is super Kev. RM will recognise this and I think next season provided he can stay fit, he will bang in 15-20 goals.
06 Jun 2013 20:58:23
barclay is going to man u.
06 Jun 2013 17:45:35
Howard
Coleman jagielka distin baines
McCarthy Gibson de Guzman
Mcmanaman mirallas
Negredo
Who would be happy with this team? AntEFC
Negredo won't come
1) he's to expensive
2) he's too old
3) he was a moyes target
But the rest of your team is good
And no fellaini?
I'd be happier with:
Howard
Coleman jagielka distin baines
Fellani Gibson Barkley
Peanuts mirallas
Negredo
I would be very happy with it
Sell fellaini to afford negredo. AntEFC
Martinez plays 3 4 3. Not sure if he will continue to do so with us but its likley
06 Jun 2013 17:11:07
Lots of who we might sign from Wigan, but Kone only mentioned a couple of times. He is quality a good striker, he would be the one for me.
Jon
He's 29, nearly 30. Not for me mate, we need younger players imo.
06 Jun 2013 16:43:48
Want to bring in Macarthy Maloney and mcmanaman from Wigan and a striker Duffy needs to play think he is going to be a top centre half
06 Jun 2013 16:16:34
ed or anyone,
How was little Maggies (Magaye Gueye) loan did it help him? did he impress at all? {Ed025's Note - done well apparently..but still not good enough for our 1st team..
Started well, but was taken out for the last few weeks.
06 Jun 2013 14:32:12
If we do sell baines we should go for alaba from munic or melgarejo from benfica
06 Jun 2013 15:07:17
what's wrong with Bidwell or Garbutt?
We won't be selling Baines - full-stop
Champions league winners, first team place. Hey i've got an idea, i'll join a team who finishes 7th in the premier league. Best shout i've heard for a while that
Made me smile
Alex
Oh right I forgot Alaba would want to leave the European Champions as first choice left back and come and play for a team that isn't even in the CL.
We finished 6th alex, not 7th
I think Alex might be referring to the dark side over the park in Mordor?
While your there mate robben and maybe lahm?
06 Jun 2013 14:29:42
Seriously we are not getting all these player people are talking about espcially the midfielders and the wide midfielder at that.
with Baines and pienaar the best left side in the country. Coleman and Mirallas not far of the best right wing in the country. why change it?
I am backing our new manager all the way but the simple truth is Martinez was brought in to be a YES MAN to BK, the lack of money and everything it is clear to see that BK is going to bully to bs and to dominate Martinez every way he can
For goodness sake change the record. How often will we have to read this drivel?
Martinez came across as a genuine chap yesterday, I really don't believe he would sign up to be anybody's yes man.
Popeye
Have you ever heard of injuries?
And give him a chance before calling him a yes man ffs!
Yes please give it a rest.
Baines maybe, Pienaar is rubbish
Coleman and Mirallas? All typical RM types of player, crap
You have 2 good players, both will be sold in the summer and both probably to Mancs
Keep dreaming though
RD
Erm how about you dream about finishing above us RD? 2 years in a row now! Ouch! Even though you have spent about £150 mil in the last 2 years you still can't finish above us!, Coleman and Mirallas would walk into your team so pipe down, buy hey, look on the bright side, Everton will be going through a transition next year like liverpool have been for the past 22 years, so you just might be able to finish above us. Every cloud.
BitterBlue
RD it's past your bed time.
And it wasn't a nightmare we did finish above you again.
06 Jun 2013 21:29:26
Dont worry bitter mate they only say we are selling players and that baines is crap because they are shi**ing themselves when suarez leaves one man team mate
Gonna love it when the freddie mercury lookalike leaves. Wants to sink his teeth into a bigger club (or player). Back to liverpoo relying on gerrard to carry em.
06 Jun 2013 14:17:18
For those doubters I didn't want him either but he's here now.
I'll tell you this though, the crowd at Goodison can carry the worst of teams. We won't be going down, we won't be relegated, we won't fall into obscurity but you never know we might succeed but only together.
So IF you go to the game then leave all of your hang ups at home and scream your balls out and maybe any short comings will be bridged as we usually do.
We are a funny breed of fan at Everton and have been hardened through injustice, near misses and disappointments but we get back up and dust ourselves off every single time. We don't give up, we don't lie down, we wear our badge with pride and honour (even if the new one is awful) and we let the rest of this world know who we are.
So next season don't bother going if you are just going to moan and get behind the team and the manager. I'm excited for next season regardless of the manager because Everton just gives me a boner.
NSNO COYB!
Here here! Great post! (slightly worried with the last sentence though. ) {Ed025's Note - me too dandan..
Classic post
Hank
Great post, let not winge like the spoilt across the park. its our team, our manager, our love of our lives so let's get behind rm and show the how a football club should be supported and take the roof off the ground at every game next season. i know i will, so bring it on.
06 Jun 2013 14:11:10
PS he was fired from SC ESPINHO that great footballing 3rd div in Portugal
06 Jun 2013 14:08:09
imagine the same scene but only 12 months eariler.
DM says hi Bill am off to Manchester United mate thanks for all the good yrs
Now were seacrhing for a new manager.
names like hughes, pullis, stubbs, neville, lennon, reddknapp, martinez oneil, out of all them martinez every time. but fast forward 12mnts nobody wants him why?? because some guy who nobody as ever heard of was mentioned in the papers,
or let my heart rule my head and have big dunc
I say get a grip,
Welcome Roberto,
06 Jun 2013 13:56:55
Hi folks heard martinez promise us champions lge football, he's installing tv at goodison! But seriusly di santo will follow from wigan but he will not raid them for anyone else
06 Jun 2013 13:27:57
gonna start the ball roling with players martinez should look into getting or have been linked with already sell fellaini and spend on these lads, along with intergrating our youth
lundstram barkley green mcaleny long etc etc
gk - ter stegen or begovic
cb - dragovic/alcaraz/de vrij
midfield - mccarthy/honda
st - kevin gameiro/ benteke
wed have a squad more than capable of mounting a push for top 4
Ter Stegen - No Chance
Begovic - Not impossible, but unlikely.
Dragovic - Possibly
Alcaraz - Possibly (as a squad player)
De Vrij - Slight Possibility.
McCarthy - Possibly
Honda - Slightly possible
Gameiro - Unlikely
Benteke - No Chance.
Ter Stegen at £20million at least and a £40million asking price on Benteke. In fact, I don't think we can afford any of those players!
1) pretty sure Ter Stegen's going to Barca
2) Come off it! £40 million at least for Benteke?!! Give over.
06 Jun 2013 13:27:19
Lots of rumours flying round here from a man who has been in the job for less than 24 hours.
Although Fellaini has stated that he has a love affair with Everton I believe he will be on his way, especially because his Dad has already spoken to the new Chelski manager ( whilst at other employment) over how great his son is. This one won't go away. We will get 25 million for him and to be honest I don't want anyone from Wigan to replace him we should be looking higher than that.
Its a shame that Fer is going to Napoli as he is a great player but you have people like Steven Defour, Ever Benega available now, why waste the money on squaddies from Wigan.
Lets see what "Robbie Martin" ( I think he is from Kirkby with a sunbed myself ) does in his first week?, month more like it?
Cheers and COYB
Where've you got "fer is going to Napoli" from? Not seen anything reporting that yet you speak as though its fact
06 Jun 2013 12:15:15
I know Evertonians can be a bit pessimistic but some of the gloom merchants on this site are getting me down, FFS we need to give the man a chance. As I stated a few weeks back, if Preston had beat Bolton in the 2001 play off final, Moyes may have well stayed with them. If that had been the case, do you think Moyes would have kept them in the prem, because there was no guarantee that he would have done. Martinez hasn't taken over a side were the manager has been sacked (as Moyes did when he came in), but is taking over a side were the manager has progressed to the biggest club on the planet, because of how well he has done. Martinez has adopted a side who came within a whisker of a top four finish. The reason we failed to qualify for Europe was because of an obvious lack of fire power up front, but also sometimes by adopting a negative attitude, that meant we were unable to see out quite a few winnable games. This negativity may well improve with a more creative manager in charge. We've taken a gamble with Martinez but we need to get behind him. (Wavertree Blue)
Well put, let just get behind the boys and see what happens.
sa90
You missed out by 10 points not a whisker and you didn't finish in the top 4 cause you weren't good enough. Unless you have major money to invest, I am afraid you never will.
06 Jun 2013 12:02:32
I, for one, am excited to see a more expansive brand of football played on Goodison next year! My main concern is that we start to lose games 4-3 that we would have stunk in but won 1-0 under Moyes.
A lot of games that we should have won 2-0 we drew 1-1 under Moyes
What if we start winning 4-3 instead of a dull one nil win were we are hanging on. I know which game I would rather watch
I'd like to point out that I'm relatively happy with the appointment, and will back the manager 100%. Just some things that I wanted to point out :) -
OP:
Personally I will give RM pretty much carte blanche at first as I think we all should.
He is the new Boss and non of us should undermine him by jumping the gun so to speak.
However there must be a maximum in peak-to-trough decline and if or when this has been reached the 'carte blanche' I mentioned earlier will change into something less tolerant!
My instincts tell me that RM will be many steps ahead of us on this matter,
Giving all of us at EFC peace of mind and confidence.
As OP states, a lot of times we clung on to draws and got narrow wins when could have been comfortably beaten. Man City away comes to mind last season.
Chris91w
Agree, but overall we seemed to pick up enough tight wins to see us challenge around that top area of the table. Okay, say we become a more attacking threat with fluidity from front to back but lose a few games 4//5-0. (maybe more - spurs). Will you be satisfied with the post match analysis that we ''tried to do the right thing and play the right way''
06 Jun 2013 11:44:19
martinez first signings to be McMannaman, Alcaraz and Kone. He'll then move for McGeady and De Guzman.
Where the hell are all these De Guzman rumours coming from?
Don't think we will sign kone as he has a 6.5milllion get out clause in his contract and that imo is to much for a 29yo
06 Jun 2013 11:42:17
If ronaldo signs for chelsea we will get victor moses for a cut price
Doubt he'll go Chelski after ''The Special One" had an outburst at him.
06 Jun 2013 11:27:20
Guy hasn't been in the job a day, and already the moaners are out.
Nobody knows who he is looking to sign, so stop moaning about things that haven't happened yet.
As for the statement about "Champions League", would rather have that being said by a manager than the "Over Achieving" tripe we were fed every season.
If you really want to see a club in a mess, then go over the road. Spend loads of money and still win sod all!
Put it this way, If EFC fans thought we had just caught a diamond as a manager, after the press conferance a few hundred maybe a thousand would have been outside goodison after the press conferance. In fact there was more press than fans, If you get the look on BK face he is trying to hide the dissapointment, a few came up to shake his hand, but as for the barriers being there. enough said, The majority don't want to welcome someone who they expect to be at the wrong end of the table, I would love him to surprise me, but i'm a realist, his record speaks for itself,
1, budget, loans, youngsters and SURVIVE, nothing much will change.
2, the worst will be seeing that REDS. pulling away from us.
3, watch out for the hard luck stories, and play back from his wigan days, they will be used again and again!
I wish the guy well and I truly believe he will prove doubters like yourself wrong, but then I suppose you'll find something else to complain about.
06 Jun 2013 14:37:05
Well so far the way he has handled himself has oozed class and dignity. If that comes across to the players as readily as it did to most Evertonians watching its a good start already.
As for the champions league comments look at last seasons table is it unreasonable to think we could have squeezed another half dozen goals out of our players. its an over-simplification I know but its all that was needed.
Biffy I don't think I could disagree any more with your comments.
1) It was at 4pm on a Tuesday, people can't just go to Goodison.
2) It doesn't mean fans think we've got a bad manager, I for one am delighted.
3) What press conference were you watching? "hiding disappointment"? seriously mate, Bill was delighted, if you think he was disappointed then that's just silly really.
4) "The majority don't want to welcome someone who they expect to be at the wrong end of the table". Dear me where do I start with this comment. If by the majority you mean yourself & Mushy you'd be correct, as you 2 seem to be the most negative people ever to grace Everton Rumours. Most Evertonians, it seems, don't expect Martinez to take us down, it is crystal clear that his intentions are to get us into Europe NOT aiming to stay up
5) You're not a realist, you're a pessimist
6) Just because he managed WIGAN doesn't mean that Everton will be in relegation battles. Going off your logic, Liverpool would finish about 15th and Man United would be battling to get into European places. Ridiculous comment.
7) The reds won't pull away from us, we'll be pulling away from them if anything
You're entitled to your own opinion Biffy, but as I said at the start of this comment, I couldn't disagree any more
06 Jun 2013 11:25:26
OK serious question
Champions league this coming season, we will need 72 points.
Do you really think that is likely?
Man utd Man city Chelsea Arsenal will all break that and more.
Spurs will break 68, and Even that tribe over the park will.
Bill K has been selling fantasies for years on the stage to audiences. And I can't believe so many of this very good educated site are being coiled in AGAIN!.
He got lucky very lucky with DM, This guy will get a nose bleed if he ever gets in the top 10, he is a terminal loser, and FACUP aside. Every blind squirral finds the occasional nut.
Champions League and promises of money is smoke and mirrors, We will struggle, I never thought we would see the likes of Walker again, but he turned up yesterday!
I will be the first to appologise come XMAS, but I still say no more than 24 at half way, which is about par with safety.
Next step, wait for the sales, and the buys we get they won't be in the same class, and the monetory difference will again disspapear, into the bermuda triangle, of the British Virgin Islands account.
COYB
06 Jun 2013 11:33:12
Biffy what are you going to do it with, paracetamol, noose or a blade lad
You sound suicidal.
Give the guy a chance for gods sake, he is now our manager, even still a small minority of supposed supporters just love knocking the club, Bill, RM and the players we may or may not buy.
Get behind the team, stop moaning people before he is even given a chance, especially the anonymous Koppites who love to troll our site
Ed I feel for you mate, at least we don't get to see every post but you poor old old sod must feel like cracking up sometimes.
Proud to be a Blue and always get behind the team, unlike some
I love how this guy goes on about us struggling and selling our best players etc. then ends the post with COYB!
Biffy you should be supporting Newcastle, they would be perfect for you.
Oh how I can't wait for your apology come Xmas.
06 Jun 2013 11:07:26
Wouldnt mind getting Begovic if we could afford him. Definitely want Honda. absolute quality and i'd ssk how much for grameiro from psg. good little striker. started only 5 games last season because of ibrahimovic but hit 8 goals
06 Jun 2013 11:34:01
Same here Denno, would love all three of them mate
06 Jun 2013 10:48:55
Everton to buy Scott Sinclair as he's not getting first team games at city
Just had a serious operation and won't be fit for a while a rib removed I think. tp.
06 Jun 2013 10:44:27
Dos santos from barcelona is a good shout, wanting away and we have been linked with him, we need more flair in centre midfield
06 Jun 2013 10:42:00
Anyone reckon we shoulf move for victor ruiz from valencia, quality centre back, valencia need cash and he is valued around 5-6 mil, and he is spanish to link with martinez?
Should we get Casillas, Ramos, Pique and Alba to keep him company?
What's the reply about? The player is a realistic target
06 Jun 2013 10:21:04
what a deal:swap fellani for rooney
we don't want martinez to sign any one from wigan as there not champion league players and that is what he said he would do for us. let's hope moyes will send some players our way:powell, angelo henriquez, bebe
Totally agree mate, sick to death of our fans wanting the whole Wigan side, some fans saying we're going to be fight relagation with Martinez. Yes we will if we sign all the Wigan players
McManaman has only broken through this season and his potential is there for all to see, and we should defo go in for him. I would'nt, however, be going over board in trying to sign too many of the Wigan squad. (Wavertree Blue)
06 Jun 2013 10:15:22
Sick to death of us want most of the Wigan players, there a reason there playing in a lower division next season, yes the likes of mcmanaman can play different/better around our players plus because he's young he'll be able to adapt, but wanting al-habsi and other players in the 30's is just silly, we're best getting a 24 year old if anything, then maybe trying to get fer, plus I don't think felli will go so that will make the midfield a lot better, I wouldn't spend 20 mil on negredo I'd again get younger talent but still with experience.
06 Jun 2013 10:39:27
No one said we want most of the wigan players just mccarthy and mcmanaman that's only 2 they have over 30 players in their squad so don't lie and exagerate to prove a point
06 Jun 2013 10:07:56
What is so stupid is that if roberto has money now then why the heck was dm not given the cash in the first place. Reckon kenwright been making false promises again
Because he has known at least since xmas that Moyes was going
06 Jun 2013 10:04:18
Sell Fellaini 23m Heitinga 3m and Naismith 2m and there is maybe about 12m in the kitty judging the way Kenright was talking about there been money there for new signings, so about 40m there. Lukaku 20m Diame 3.5m Honda 3m McManaman 4m Alcaraz free agent, Alhabsi 2m and maybe a loan or 2 maybe Lescott and Sinclair or Marin and Moses. Should be an intresting summer.
Dero.
Where are you getting them prices from haha. Honda 3m. And yer we should just give dave 'broke me leg' whelan 20 mil and buy the whole Wigan squad, WE don't WANT ALL THE WIGAN PLAYERS MATE
06 Jun 2013 09:50:11
Hearing talks Martinez likes the look of, mcgeady
he wants him to be his first signing
06 Jun 2013 09:38:14
Mcarthy, mcmanaman and alcaraz to follow martinez to everton, converting to a 352 formation. Meaning strikers will come in and maybe jelavic sold?
06 Jun 2013 09:32:48
Anyone think Bill made a bit of a knob of himself with that ramble about "we don't want any fans to leave - and Roberto is going to ring them all up to ask them not to leave - but - err - oh - not one person has said they're going to leave anyway, as they're all great fans!"
think he realised he was saying the wrong thing and tried to backtrack
He was talking about the players not the fans, tbh I hate bill but his interview yesterday was very very good
He was talking about players why in the world would Roberto ring up 50,000 fans?!
Now who has made a knob of himself?
DBEFC
Fair enough if that's what he was saying but it wasn't obvious in the clip I saw on sky (or maybe it was how they framed it) - just sounded like he was talking about the fans as sky ran it all together with comments about fans - but it would make more sense about the players - it wasn't clear though and sounded a bit daft
Go and watch the press conference in full on the official site
50,000 fans? You meant 15,000 surely? LOL
RD
06 Jun 2013 08:25:39
For starters we need depth in our squad. Such as free signings or loans to start witg. Like alcaraz and denilson arshavin. Yes u may say they lack the quality to start but they can be squad players and martinez cn grt the best out of them. COYB
DAN
06 Jun 2013 08:05:15
Mcmanaman had more goals and assists than that
06 Jun 2013 07:43:57
4 things RM should do:
Keep the Defensive Coaches,
Keep MOST of the Youths setup in place,
For the love of god Change the Striker Coaches (our strikers have always turned abysmal after their 1st season at EFC),
and Buy a Play Maker, Striker and new GK.
Yep that's about right.
QB
Anybody coaching the strikers will focus on all the obvious areas such as finishing, movement, link up play and positioning. I think it's unfair to align blame to the coach for our final 3rd woes. In my opinion the Moyes philosophy, although successful, wasn't suited to an out and out striker prospering in and around the 18 yard box. Martinez will change this no doubt. My only concern. Will we start to lose games 4-3, that we would have won 1-0 under Moyes. ??
06 Jun 2013 02:13:36
I think we should sell jeli and hitinga after last year and get striker and maybe two
06 Jun 2013 08:28:40
Glad you are not my boss in work mate, ruthless businessman, is that you Lord Sugar
I would keep Jelly for another season kidder just to see if his confidence returns with our new manager, because the guy can score for fun when he is in form, defo need a top striker though.
06 Jun 2013 00:07:41
My god can we stop with the Wigan players and get ambition.
Callum mcmanaman games 20 goals 2 assists 0
James McCarthy games 50 goals 3 assists 2
Who wants that. That's why teams like Wigan go down. They won't help us push for Europe. Proven quality will.
Do you not think they would do better with better players around them.
Nope. I think they would not look as good as what they do at Wigan because they would have better players around them.
We''re trying to push for CL and need quality proven talent.
Nil satis nisi optimum doesn't spring to mind when talking about these players.
And they're young and have a lot to learn, but the fact that they were still coping in the prem shows they've the ability
Not sure McCarthy should be judged on goals and assists alone. Based on that you could say Jags, Distin, Coleman, Gibson are worse than him as they aren't high on the goals / assist ratio.
Personally I think McManaman would be a good cheap squad player only with some future potential. McCarthy on the other hand looks like a really good future player, but can make a few bad decisions in dangerous positions. Wouldn't pay the 10 Mn people have been sprouting, but wouldn't knock him back if he turned up for 5 Mn paid in installments over the next few years it could be a good addition.
I would much prefer to target Maloney as he will be cheap for what he offers and a great creative influence off the bench (more effective than Naismith) and Kone (if another striker is not signed).
06 Jun 2013 08:31:07
2nd poster is spot on, these two players would work well at our club and you work better with better players behind you.
Please not Kone though as personally I don't rate him at all.
Now Lukaku on loan or even straigh swap for Felli would do me, this guy is going to be awesome but the special one is back so guessing this may be his new Drogba.
McCarthy looks good - and is a lot more 'in your face' and energetic box-to-box than 'walking around' Osman in my opinion (who also 'hides' behind opponents when Jags is looking for an outlet from the back).
Mcmanaman plays right back where we now seem to be OK with Coleman doing better and Hibbo back.
We desperately need a decent striker, don't we?
One who will get us 15 goals at least. Jela and Vic are just not up to standard required to get us in champs league, which is a shame as the rest of the team is.
McManaman I agree because the attacking player can totally decided by assist and goal data.
McCarthy is MC. his job is control the midfield area. So that data cannot totally decide his performance.
McCarthy or Fellani?
McCarthy or Barkley?
McCarthy or Gibson?
I put him fourth on that list meaning we sign a squad player. How many CM do you want to play?
Striker, striker, striker and with 20 goals a season in him.
06 Jun 2013 12:27:45
Fellaini is behind the striker and that would make him third plus he is better than barkley so that puts him second in cm you really must hate him you havnt shut up about him all day
06 Jun 2013 00:19:20
are number one priority has to be a proven striker, obviously that's the same thing every other club is looking for also but I wuddent hold me breath on jelavic firing again, to sayhe has been sluggish is an understatment this year, he's huffing and puffing his energy seems to be gone not long after coming on the pitch.
the rumour I heard was he was partying alot, not so much van der meyde style but it makes sense when you consider when he came to now.
The ideal player would be lukaku but we all know chelsea won't give him to us on loan.
I wouldn't say he's been particularly bad, the problem is he's been dropping deeper to support the rest of the team very often. Something I suspect was down to Moyes. When he first came he was operating as he always had been, an out and out striker. Hopefully Martinez will bring this back.
I liked moyes and thank him for the last 11 years but he wanted his strikers to drop to deep.
After the first season with AJ, the Yak and Jelli hey all went down hill. No coincidence I my eyes!
DBEFC
06 Jun 2013 00:07:58
Ed's, I've been coming onto this site for about 2 yrs now, but only posting maybe for 5 months or so. On a real serious note I understand Bk is a performer and says things, and can fail to deliver, I. e. stadium, buyers etc. and whilst he may have ulterior motives (it's not an accusation) I also believes he has sincerity in his wishes for success at everton. I think DM was a blessing when he came and I am sorry to see him leave. I didn't agree with DMs tactics and player selection all the time and some times for good reason, but I was glad he was at the healm. Following his departure I feel that a lot of fans ( given the posts made) were expecting Gus hiddink, Carlo ancelotti, pep guardiola. etal. all unreal and ridiculous expectations. Some called for this obscure Porto guy and other exotic characters. but the fact is. managers have the same aspirations as players. all wanna play in the champions league. So if we can't attract those guys then we have to look at who else is available. although not my preferred choice what we have is a guy who played the game up until 6 yrs ago. did great things at Swansea, beat Efc and man city to win the fa cup, got into Europe. ok they got relegated but some of those players were outcasts from other teams so to keep them competing weekly in the prem. with injury woes that he also had is extremely difficult. Anyhow my main point is this. The man said he want CL football for our club, would you have preferred if he said he wanted to finish in the top half of the table. He and Bk said they want to keep the players they have and add to that squad. would you prefer he said he had to sell our key players? bk and RM can't win with some. instead of knocking give the guy the benefit of the doubt and get behind the team and the new manager. rant over. Jlaff