Everton Banter Archive January 06 2019

 

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06 Jan 2019 22:14:34
Well before anyone slags me off can I just say that it was only a momentary musing not based on anything more than I heard his contract was up in the summer and no mention of a new contract apparently!
So Petr Czech (excuse spelling) anyone think he would be a good acquisition in place of Stekenlenburg,
Just a discussion prompt nothing else
My tin hat is on and sandbags filled, Go!
Big C.

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{Ed025's Note - certainly better tan what we have at the moment BigC..

06 Jan 2019 23:50:39
hes definitely an upgrade on stek but would he come here to be number 2 i don't think so mate but ad love it if he did.

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07 Jan 2019 12:05:56
We need to try and steal Pope or Heaton from Burnley if possible.

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07 Jan 2019 12:47:44
Petr Cech has always been one I would love at our club, alongside Neuer and, or ter Stegan of course, but I doubt he'd be happy playing back-up to Pickford.

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07 Jan 2019 14:30:38
Every keeper mentioned is a massive upgrade on pickford.

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{Ed001's Note - to be fair, my mother would be a massive upgrade and she has sciatica and rheumatoid arthritis....}

07 Jan 2019 16:27:14
Lets not start slagging off Pickford please. He's a young quality keeper learning his trade. He will become even better as each season passes. Anything better out there just won't join our non Champs League club anyway.

When it comes to keepers, we have had the worlds number 1, USAs number 1 and now we have Englands number 1. that's not bad for a club with our recent history is it?

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07 Jan 2019 17:51:13
I think we need a number 2 to Pickford and Pope or Heaton would be good competition and might prove to be better in the long run, Pickford needs competition.
The problem I see is the present regime seems to have no interest in British players, I am thinking of Abraham going to Wolves a great loan signing for them. We do seem to only link with overseas players.

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07 Jan 2019 17:53:36
I totally agree with Toffee Ace Jordan Pickford is an excellent goalkeeper, yes he's made some mistakes but he is a young lad learning his trade, personaly I think we should be applauding him he has saved us so many times when the opposing team could have had a cricket score, come to think of it Cech has made numerous mistakes, if any one blame should take any flack on the team I would say its our defence that needs sorting but to blame Jordan is wrong.

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{Ed025's Note - jordan is an excellent shot stopper GB but the rest of his game leaves a lot to be desired, as you say though he is still young and learning, but he has to learn quick mate..

07 Jan 2019 18:04:18
Agree Ed mate but I still think its our defence that is putting him under pressure instead of booting the ball into row Z.

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{Ed025's Note - i can see that GB but it works both ways mate..

07 Jan 2019 18:52:51
GB Young lad, definitely OJT but either very slow on the uptake (being polite) or bad coaching, I do not believe it is bad coaching. GB sometimes mate you are just too nice. He either stands rooted or gallops with bad timing. The Header by Lincoln for instance was easily grabable (is that a word) .

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07 Jan 2019 18:54:42
That was a bit harsh Ed001 lol As some say he's young and should improve, but he needs to do it quickly otherwise he won't retain his England No1 spot. As for the defense, yes they could help out more by not making so many mistakes. Fingers crossed they all start to gel sooner rather than later.

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{Ed001's Note - personally I am not so sure it is. Pickford is error prone and was at Sunderland. He will never be a top keeper as he is not intelligent enough to learn from his mistakes.}

07 Jan 2019 19:08:33
You have a point mate but once again it was panic at the back between Zouma and Mina that led to that goal.

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07 Jan 2019 20:25:06
NP Ed001. He can be error prone and naive at times but until someone less so comes along he's ours and he gets my support.

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{Ed001's Note - up to you if you are happy supporting dross carry on lad. That is exactly why Real Madrid stuck by the useless Keylor Navas for years, as the fans backed him totally. They could have had de Gea at his peak instead but no, because they were afraid to upset the fans. Personally I think you give unquestioning support at games but then give the players and team the critical analysis they deserve after it.}

07 Jan 2019 20:57:52
tammy Abraham is poor compared to DCL.

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07 Jan 2019 23:17:05
All I’ll say is that if Pickford is as bad as everyone is saying, all the other English keepers must be utter tripe. I cannot fathom the criticism this guy is getting tonight. But then I remember when Big Nev got stick in the early days. He turned out alright.

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07 Jan 2019 23:19:14
Couldn't agree more with the Eds. He is a great shot stopper and would make a tremendous 5 a side keeper but every other aspect of his goalkeeping is poor. The amount of times opponents head the ball inside our 6 yard box is embarassing. He also never seems to think he is at fault for anything so agree that he's unlikely to improve when he's too stupid/ arrogant to think he needs to improve.

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07 Jan 2019 23:20:42
GB watch that goal again and see where the guy heads it from. I'm not necessarily saying the CBs couldn't have done better but ultimately that has to be the keepers responsibility.

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07 Jan 2019 23:23:22
I think since the World Cup his save has gone to his head and the praise for his kicking to he now seems cocky to me rather than confident! I do think he will improve as he gets older but who could we attract who’s better? And I think as a club looking to build for the future and his name is in the lights we would cash in if a great offer comes in for England’s No1. His biggest down side for me though is his commanding of the box on crosses. Let’s hope he calms down abit and goes back to the keeper we know 👌🏼.

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07 Jan 2019 23:02:59
I'm not going to argue with you Ed001 but if we wrote off every player who made mistakes there'd be no-one left to support.

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{Ed001's Note - I agree with that, but there is more to it with him. Making the odd mistake is one thing, being an imbecile without the intelligence to learn from your mistakes is quite another. Pickford is just lacking in the ability to learn, as well as being rash, too short, too fat, too slow and his distribution is, most of the time, utterly abysmal. He is Paddy Kenny's lovechild and plays just like Kenny did.}

08 Jan 2019 03:13:51
Look, I agree he's prone to mistakes and he makes dubious decisions at times, and maybe it'll turn out that that's his level and he'll never improve, I guess only time will tell.

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08 Jan 2019 11:21:22
Anyone would think Ed001 was a wind up merchant! In all seriousness (ready to be shot down in flames here) Pickford is one of the best shot stoppers around. His distribution can be a little eratic at times. Sometimes excellent and sometimes woeful. Hi ability in the air is questioable. Since he joined us, we have conceded so many goals from set pieces. Almost one every other game I would guess. (no doubt someone will have stats to either back me up or shoot me down) . Most set pieces are in the air. Yes part of the problem is our zonal marking policy. But some of the problem is Pickford is either rooted to the line or is afraid to come and collect. He tries to punch clear occasionally but often gets that wrong and is either beaten to the ball by the opposition or mis punches the ball. He has been to blame directly for many goals but has also saved us with point blank shot stopping. Its a real dilema for me. If Ed is right and he is as thick as he says, he will never learn. I suspect he will learn because that's why we have coaches. But he seems to be taking his time!

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08 Jan 2019 11:52:45
Fair comment Degsyp. I don't think Ed001 was joking though, he clearly doesn't rate JP that highly does he lol.

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08 Jan 2019 18:55:07
Some of Ed001's comments maybe a bit harsh (to some) . But one thing he is spot on about and something I have said for years. On game day the team and managerial staff have our unquestioning support, win or lose, play well or badly. Afterwards and within 'the family' we can criticise and voice displeasure. In recent seasons it has become the norm to boo the team and sub decisions, abhorrent as far as I am concerned.

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{Ed001's Note - I hate it when fans boo their own players. I don't like booing full stop. I prefer to sing songs to support my team when there.}

08 Jan 2019 21:27:06
Me too Ed. Which Milan team is it?

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{Ed001's Note - you've lost me mate. Has this come through to the wrong thread or something?}

09 Jan 2019 08:22:33
My sense of humour Ed. You said you like to be there to singa the songs for your team. So I said which of the Milans is it? Just a bit of a (poor) wind up.

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{Ed001's Note - oh sorry mate. My bad. I had just woken up when I read it, well half-woken up, so never even considered humour at that bleary-eyed moment.}

Is the Appointment of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer a Masterstroke by Manchester United?

06 Jan 2019 18:33:36
{Ed's Note - DLIB has posted a new article entitled, Is the Appointment of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer a Masterstroke by Manchester United?

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07 Jan 2019 15:47:09
I was with a posh mank, last week (did not now there was any) he says Solskjaer was only a puppet manager? Ferggy back in the dressing room, and he picks the team?

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07 Jan 2019 17:51:53
I have a manc friend who said the same, who knows.

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07 Jan 2019 23:07:35
I heard it was big Sam telling Fergie what to tell Ole.

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06 Jan 2019 11:07:11
I take my hat off to Leighton Baines. What a professional. His performance yesterday was excellent. Yet despite this he knows that he's is now second choice. He never sulks, he stays out of the media circus and always gives an honest display.

His work in the community is there for all to see, but not "look at me" at the same time.

Put all that together and you have possibly the best example of a professional footballer in his generation.

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06 Jan 2019 12:51:07
Agreed. It was amazing watching him bombing down the wing and whipping in crosses again. And his link up play was just as good as always. Nothing but praise for the guy and as you say a fine example of how a Pro should be.

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06 Jan 2019 19:28:52
All true but he is also probably doing his very best to give the manager a headache re left back selection!

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06 Jan 2019 23:13:24
I know it’s late in his career but I have wondered if Baines could do a job in front of the back four like Philip Lahm did in the latter stages of his career.

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07 Jan 2019 17:54:48
I have been watching Everton since the 60's and for me Baines is the best left back the club has had, I include greats like Ray Wilson in that. If we had 5 or 6 players with his attitude and ability what a team we might have, sad his time is coming to an end.

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{Ed025's Note - it really is DC, hes been a great servant to the club but like every player before him time catches up with you, still a great option as back up though mate..

07 Jan 2019 16:51:15
ST. How about Zouma in the front of Keane and Mina, he had a couple of games for Chelsea in that position and certainly capable of bringing the ball out. The added advantage being his ability to step in if one or other of Keane or Mina step out.

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06 Jan 2019 09:08:05
We can all see the squad has it limitations, in life the ones that make the fewest mistakes usually are the most successful.
it's the same with footballers if they keep on making a bad pass or to give the ball away, make the wrong decision, keep missing chances, and so on, this sets the quality of the player, you only have to look at the top teams they very rarely seem to make simple mistakes. It's seems at this moment Everton have to many players making mistakes hence the below par performance against any of type of opposition, yesterday was a prime example.
Marco is putting this down to lapses in concentration, it well could be but it is better for him to say this than openly criticise the ability of his players individually, this shows what a really good Manager he is.
I am 100% sure Marco and Brands now know what they have in the squad. They know it's not an easy fix and will take time to get the high quality players into Everton
I truly believe they put it right but we have to be patient for success or to truly compete with the likes of Liverpool and the Manchester clubs. We have a great owner of the club that has invested and still investing in Everton something we have never had before, he has created A great back ground team including Brands and Marco. Just let Marco and Brands work their magic, I personally truly believe in them.

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06 Jan 2019 12:34:30
Good post Uran. Patience is the key here. Some fans will only ever give managers a dozen games and then if we aren't top 6 will want a change.
There is not one fan on this site who knows whether Marco is or isn't the man to help us make the next step. It is too early for anyone to know.
What we can see this early is the calibre of players in the squad is miles better than it was last may. And I am confident by September our squad will be of a higher quality.

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06 Jan 2019 19:33:38
The squad is far more balanced with left sided players now as well as having more players at the peak of their careers rather than youngsters and ones at the end of their careers. We need a bit of good fortune now in holding on to our promising youngsters and also in the transfer market. We also need a few youngsters to step up and start performing. A few have shown promise but then hit the wall. That sometimes happens and then they come back better and stronger a year or two down the line. I am expecting Tom Davies, Calvert Lewin and Lookman to make great strides in the next season or two.

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07 Jan 2019 16:46:23
By the same definition then uran we should never have got rid of Martinez.

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08 Jan 2019 08:50:07
The past is the past, new chapter begins.

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06 Jan 2019 08:24:18
James McCarthy on the bench yesterday but didn't get on the pitch.
Whats happening with him?
I think he could, if he stays fit, give us a bit more bite in midfield.
I'm hoping Silva hasn't wrote him off already.

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{Ed025's Note - im with you smit, i think he still has a lot to offer mate..

06 Jan 2019 10:42:27
Think he has a lot to offer playing wise. Even more so he can influence some of these so called star players what passion, determination and effort is.

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06 Jan 2019 13:28:52
A year out with a serious injury is a big ask to come back and be the player your were before, I think we can see that with Coleman now.
I hope he comes back but wouldn’t set my expectations to high for him this season.

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06 Jan 2019 16:04:07
I think Silva was hoping for a bigger lead at half time to give McCarthy a run out, he went with Gomes instead.

I am a big fan of McCarthy but thought Silva made the right choice bringing Gomes on.

With the scorline remaining at 2-1 McCarthy could have come on and had his injury forced him off again or short of pace and match fitness, Silva would have got slaughtered for taking the risk at only 2-1 leaving Gomes on the bench.

Would have loved to see McCarthy at some point, unfortunately the score line and a one off cup game ended his chance of coming on.

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06 Jan 2019 17:29:42
Excellent player, i wish everyone in the team would give what Jimmy Mac offers 110%.

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Review Of The Day 6th January 2019

06 Jan 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 6th January 2019

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06 Jan 2019 07:10:09
I know this might sound silly, but could we not play Baines at LB and Digne as our left winger or vice versa, put Bernard on the right and have Lookman and Richarlson up Front. We struggle on the right and up front. We always seem to get the ball in our area but no one is ever there!

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06 Jan 2019 07:55:45
I said exactly the same after yesterday's game i thought Baines was back to best and think that doubling him and digne could work.

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06 Jan 2019 10:27:42
Aussie, actually not a bad call. Bainsie Peanut one of the best partnerships. Bainsie Digne could be good temporarily till we find a future partnership for Digne Plus A. N. Other.

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06 Jan 2019 12:53:46
lw is our strongest position we don't need to play baines there he's a solid sub if he's happy with that give him a new contract and stop putting players in the wrong position for me like.

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06 Jan 2019 13:31:28
Totally agree with Johny LB and LW are totally different positions.

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06 Jan 2019 15:45:46
But Baines has never been a LB if you understand the concept. Baines and Coleman are WB's, neither are particular good one on one defenders. Both are excellent players, loyal and receive the respect they deserve, justifiably so.

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06 Jan 2019 17:21:49
Disagree as they both play predominantly in a back 4 WB’s tend to play forward of 3 CB’s.

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06 Jan 2019 19:36:53
Interesting post, but only leaves 2 midfield slots? Siggy/ Gomes? what about Gueye? What about any holding midfielder?

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06 Jan 2019 21:18:01
They do play forward though wakka. Look at the difference now particularly at RB with Kenny.

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