Everton Banter Archive August 06 2016

06 Aug 2016 22:36:51
What's the chance of us signing coruc ed mate.

{Ed002's Note - Measured how?}

06 Aug 2016 17:24:38
Don't worry blues it's preseason it's about fitness and practicing formations having a look at players getting the rust out of the players yes we could do with a couple of new signings but mark my word you will see a different Everton performance next Saturday we will be flying COYB.

06 Aug 2016 18:24:00
Love it Stef. Don't worry this miserable lot will be on board soon enough. I was pleased with quite a bit today. Bring on Spurs.

06 Aug 2016 19:23:44
You think I, m won around that easy, i am one of the most difficult people to please there is so come on Everton, please me! I challenge you.

06 Aug 2016 20:11:44
There was some good play today your right B. J. U it's going to take time but they will come on board.

06 Aug 2016 21:41:01
Pleased so easily by so little, incredible.

06 Aug 2016 21:57:38
You only see the negatives OX try look at the positives as well mate, it takes time to change,3 years under Martinez he has to put his own stamp on this team and make his own changes we will do well this season but it is next year when we will really push on cheer up mate we are Evertonians and it is never easy being a blue.

07 Aug 2016 06:34:02
I agree with you stef, the blue, iv, e got to be a lot more positive, starting with 3 points v spurs! And then onwards and upwards!

07 Aug 2016 12:22:02
I missed today's game due to work but my mate went and he said we were terrible but reading the comments above, it seems we where not that bad can anybody fill me in on how we looked?

06 Aug 2016 17:06:09
Quick summary of our last pre-season game again.

Everton 0-1 Espanol
5th Minute penalty.

Not a terrible performance, and we probably deserved a draw, but I would say that if we play like we have in the last 4 games then we're not going to score a single goal all season. They did pack a lot of men behind the ball and took no risks all get, but yet again, absolutely no goal threat from us.

Stekelenburg - 7 - Little to do, one great save early on

Coleman - 6 - Small impact, always a yard behind the ball when trying to get forward

Stones - 6.5 - Little to do. Looked composed

Funes Mori - 6 - Little to do. Still looked rash at times

Baines - 7.5 - Couldn't craft many chances but worked hard

Barry - 7.5 - Typical Barry

Gueye - 6.5 - Penalty aside, he worked hard, made some great tackles and really harried his opponent (like early McCarthy) , but his passing was poor at times and he was caught out on the ball 3 or 4 times. Simplified things as the game went on and improved.

Barkley - 7.5 - Showed some brilliant turns and bits of skill (like old Barkley) , but a lot of his typical faults (tackled often and got the ball stuck under his feet) . Missed a penalty, but it was a brilliant save, to be fair.

Deulofeu - 6 - Minimal impact, a few lazy touches and passes. Closer to his game against United than his first 2.

Mirallas - 6.5 - Couldn't craft much but worked hard and covered back well

Lukaku - 5 - May as well have not been on the pitch. Had a good shot early on but was completely anonymous and wasted his only chance of the game after that.

No subs made any real impression except Davies, who continues to look promising.

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I know pre-season isn't a reliable marker for how a season will go, but we've left it way too late to make any signings that can start the season and the team looks no where near ready for our match against Tottenham. We have defended well enough, any of our last 4 games could have gone on for another 3 hours and we wouldn't have scored.

If Lukaku stays, we can expect a season of him putting in zero effort and flouncing every time he doesn't get the ball, if he leaves, we've left it too late to get a proper replacement and Kone looks just as dreadful as ever.

Going to wait and see how things go, but I think we can expect a tough start to the season.

06 Aug 2016 19:08:15
If there not going to play for the shirt lukaku and stones need to be gone.
It'll sow discord in the team if they stay and it's two crucial positing we need players in who are going to work for the team.
People will say "where will we geta 20 goal a season striker from" or "stones will be a world class cb were will we get a replacement" it's simple, well have to find one.
Neither player wants to be there and may well be a hinderance over time so I don't see the point in keeping them when we can take the money a buy suitable replacements

Anybody remember when we kept lescott and played arsenal 1st game of the season? . we lost 6-1 and lescott cost us 4 goals because his head wasn't right. Don't want stones doing the same.

06 Aug 2016 14:29:24
No williams in the swansea line up? . is it done maybe?

06 Aug 2016 17:08:20
He hasn't returned to training yet. No players from Euros were selected.

06 Aug 2016 13:14:01
Come on lads let's all organise a whip round and fundraiser for poor Tony Hibbert.

06 Aug 2016 14:47:32
It was disappointing the way EFC treated both Tony and Leon following many years of loyal service. Both are true blues and deserved a better and more sympathetic ending to their Everton careers.
Seems so out of character of Bill!

06 Aug 2016 15:16:10
Sorry Fancy but surely that's why players have agents. so I for one am not buying that they did not know that they were not getting extensions. To then go public and tarnish the club that has paid you handsomely for the past 3 years whilst you have hardly played is not the actions of anew Evertonians IMO. He still gets access tour Finchley Farm for his rehab on his injury wereas if it was me it would be on a waiting list with the NHS. So yes Tony the people's club or the underdog tag has gone and football is a business and in order to be successful in business you have to sometimes be ruthless.

06 Aug 2016 10:50:34
Im a Hibbo fan and agree its a terrible way to be treated to find out your not wanted by the club. However that's the Hob nobs at the club doesn't have anything to do with the fans or anyone else at the club. One thing that comes out in the article is he hasn't asked anyone of the Hobnobs to explain to him why it was done the way it was, but has decided to keep shtum n train on his own embarrassed. Grow some Hibbo, you were no nonesense when you played so go in and demand reasons if your so aggrieved, i know i would, stop waiting for them to talk to you it won't happen. Hibbo hasn't played hardly for the club the last 3 years, through injury and form, i was there along with thousands to see his Testimonial and goal riot, we all felt then it was a last hoorah, so how else would he like to say his cheerio's, thought that was as good as it gets for a player at a club to be honest. Get some backbone Hibbo, not go moaning to the Papers, got to the Hob nobs themselves at the club.

06 Aug 2016 11:37:17
They were both told back in March that they would not be offered a new deal. I just do not understand why this story gets repeated and rehashed.

06 Aug 2016 11:58:35
His agent is well paid to look after him, he would have known before we released players, he had an extra 2 years contract from Everton, he had a testimonial, even uses finch farm after being released, and he repays the club by moaning in public to the press, rightly or wrongly, going to the press instead of the club is the wrong way to go about it.

06 Aug 2016 13:11:56
Can't understand the way some of you are turning on TH over this. The club, if the claims are true, have acted in a disgraceful manner in the way they dealt with the release. People's club? Not a chance.
After 25 years at the club he has earned the right to be told face to face that his services are no longer required. Basic common decency.
It doesn't matter that he was given a two year deal despite injuries and loss of form, it doesn't matter that he had a testimonial or that he has been using FF to recuperate, he had every right to do that interview to put across his side. The club has dropped a bollock on this, you can't blame the lad for airing his views.

06 Aug 2016 15:55:59
I saw the article as sour grapes earning all that money for sitiing on his backside
Man living in cloud cuckoo land.
should be happy for what he's got.

06 Aug 2016 09:09:14
It is very sad that Hibbo felt that he should go to press with his comments. Especially the "horrible ruthless business" bit. I suspect his many years at the club have made it very difficult for him to come to terms that his career is now over. The timing is also sad with the takeover by Moshiri and Bill Kenwrights poor health and a change of manager. I suspect there have been some changes within the "people's club". I also suspect that Hibbo is being "wound up" by his missus or mates who can see his "hurt". But hey, I also suspect there will come a time in the future when he can look back with fond memories rather than hurt and then he will regret his ill-advised comments to the press.

06 Aug 2016 10:01:22
He also forgets he has happily taken his salary last couple of years but due to injuries hardly played a game, a bit of memory loss as well maybe?

06 Aug 2016 12:01:07
Ticket to Sunderland?

06 Aug 2016 15:44:52
What has the wages he's earned got to do with it? Every footballer in the top league is on decent money, no matter how good or bad they may be. The point of this saga is that, despite being at the club for a quarter of a century, nobody has the decency to say 'thanks for the service but you are no longer needed at the club'.
How many on this forum have had a go at the club because they feel they don't keep the fans updated with what's going on behind the scenes? Plenty of you. So if you lot feel the need to moan on here why have you got a problem with an ex player doing the same? Double standards.

05 Aug 2016 23:37:04
Just read the daily mail article with Tony Hibbert and for all the great things happening at the club I hope it's not true and don't want to lose what's great with our club it's a shame to see great servants being cast off and I know we need to move forwards but don't lose our integrity.

06 Aug 2016 01:09:45
He was paid the last two years wages for doing jack shit the club made him a millionaire but he is pissed off. I like Hibbo but whine it in mate you use the club gym free of charge was well looked after you where given a testimonial Jesus just goes to show even with all there money they are never really happy are they.

06 Aug 2016 01:25:50
He was paid £1.3 mill last season for 45 mins of football. And he has the audacity to go to the press over not getting a new contract?

Good servant to the club but I for one don't feel sorry for him at all.

06 Aug 2016 01:45:06
Well said stef. if i was in a job and my contract was about to run out and i hadnt been offered a new one, id expect to leave my job and look for a new one. such is like.

06 Aug 2016 01:45:20
Life not like.

06 Aug 2016 15:28:16
Sorry Tony but it doesn't take a genius to realise that after being injured for most of the last 3 years that you weren't going to get a new contract. If by January you hadn't heard anything regarding this then you should really be getting your agent to put the feelers out to see who if anybody would like you?

To me this stinks of bitterness from a player who was paid handsomely for being a tackler and nothing else. He now goes to the press, injured i may add and moans that we are no longer the peoples club and that it's a dog eat dog club, why? Because we don't pay players to attend the treatment room?

He is still able to use the facilities for rehab to his injury, well if I was the club I would now send him packing to the NHS waiting list see how he likes to live like us normal people do. Used to think he was a good down to earth lad from Huyton who never forgot his roots, that opinion has been tarnished by airing your dirty linen in public, and probably for a nice fee too. Must be mates with Ryan Taylor there stories are very similar!

05 Aug 2016 23:21:20
May I just say if it has not been said already, I am absolutely disgusted that this Club I have supported for over 60 years has not bothered to talk to those players of some standing such as Hibbert (25 years) that they have let go (and not even face to face) without a face to face or even one and one.