Everton Banter Archive August 06 2011

06 Aug 2011 20:43:37
Were to start?? On last nights performance I see a long hard season ahead for us blues. Top 6 finish? a long way off, a more realistic finish is top half. Howard, reliable as ever, Baines, stands out in team, Jags and Distin will be there at start of season, Neville, top captain, lacks pace and creativity, Felli, as if has never been out, Barkley, not ready Rodwell, over rated, Coleman, dangerous going forward, Anichebe, Useless, Saha, Beckford and Yak all lazy without a decent effort between them. BK you need to get funds fast give Moyes a chance. If not, get out before the fans turn on you {Ed025's Note - this warning has come too late, im afraid...the fans have spoken.....but i agree with most of what you say..

06 Aug 2011 19:55:33
Right, so we have beaten Bury, lost 1 and won 1 against average MLS sides, struggled past a poor Brum side and lost to Bremen and Villarreal. In all games we have looked lacking in vision, pace, creativity and last seasons problems in front of goal looks likely to continue. Add to this the fact that we ain't gonna be signing anyone during the transfer window and have the smallest squad on the premier league. 1 week before kickoff so I guess we're ready for the season then....
KENs**tE OUT

Do the club even remember what "Nil Satis Nisi Optimum" means?, I don't have it tattooed on my wrist for nothing Kenwright step up or step down. {Ed025's Note - we all feel down at the moment mate, i think the players do as well...lets hope that next week we put all this behind us, and get off to a good start....COYB..

06 Aug 2011 17:01:36
Everyones crying & claiming we whe not at the races yesterday but I would have to disagree, we whe the better team inthe 1st half, Baines, Coleman, Barkley, Felleni all looked class, we could of been 2 or 3 up at half time & second half we lost Coleman & made a lot of changes but I do not think its as bad as every1 makes out, we need a striker & a winger, thats all, if not still not the end of the world because we have a few youngsters that might surprise us, just support the lads & stop beggin after players that don't play 4 us, we could get off 2 a good start & end up better off than last season, we just need to start well & think we might, i'm going to the Yids game & think we'll win COYB
Stop crying about s**t we can't do nothing about & back the boys {Ed025's Note - if you were happy with the side on friday...you need to go to specsavers!..we were awful, and yes a lot of us are moaning about the lack of new faces, its our right to moan, when we purchase our season tickets!...but once the first whistle blows, we will all forget about that..and unreservedly cheer on the blues...COYB..

Nah Ed, no need 4 specs mate, Saha, Baines, Coleman all had good chances 2 score 1st half, all I said was we whe the better team 1st half, not happy because we lost the game & a home game @ that but u need 2 realise it was only a friendly & we only lost by 1 2 a very good side, ur all talkn like we got battered, we held our own When season ko u'll c that we'll b alright
In moyes we trust {Ed025's Note - i know we all look at the side through rose tinted glasses, because we are desperate for them to do well, but for me, it highlighted our need for new blood..but thanks for your post..

I do agree, first half we looked alot better than Villarreal but the second half was horrible, we hardly even touched the ball. I hate to say but as soon as Cahill came on we never looked like scoring.

GP {Ed025's Note - we need some new players GP, its as simple as that mate..

06 Aug 2011 16:30:11
Why can't we get Parker, Barton, sturridge, Defoe and a cover for Gaines are we really that poor, BK do something for the club, all we've been doing is hoping tell us what we want to hear the truth, tell us how much the clubs in debt, it makes me really angry but I will always back moyes and th team if moyes leaves which he won't i will understand and I think we all would. {Ed025's Note - good post mate..except for your possible signings, they are impossible!..

Fair enough ed

Our debt is around 45 mil, the boke who's been giving all the interviews said in a statment the other day, if i can find the link i'll post it

06 Aug 2011 13:47:54
Anyone who reads my posts knows how much I love our club & always try to remain upbeat about our prospects. However, I've just watched last night's game again &, I must admit, I'm worried. Up until Seamus went off, it wasn't too bad. OK, I thought Saha looked a bit isolated & that Anichebe on the left just wasn't working. But, other than that, the team had a good balance & Seamus & Ross B. looked great.
However, after the injury, (scandalous challenge, should have been a red card & turned the match nasty) we went to pieces. There was no balance &, apart from Bainsey, no width. Tim C. looked like he didn't know where he should be playing, Rodwell disappeared, Barkley kept drifting inside & Felli would have been lucky to stay on in a Prem match. Putting ME on as sub would have had as much effect as Yak had & Beckford, despite his efforts, still looked out of his depth to me.
I'm afraid it's time to swallow a bit of pride & go to City & try to get Bellamy & Johnson on loan. We are not going to get big money for any of our players now, apart from Jags or Bainsey who we CANNOT afford to lose. Rodwell looks £12m at best, & if we could get that I would take it
On the plus side, we only conceded one goal against very good opposition, & with Ossie & Mikel back in midfield, & a bit more support for Saha we should be ok, ( if mid-table mediocrity is "ok")
But DEFINITELY, a new striker, (or 2) & a specialist left midfielder.
I'm keeping my chin up......but it's definitely heavier than it was at this time yesterday

Toffee Tezza

IMWT

06 Aug 2011 12:17:02
one tough season ahaead - get ready for a roller coaster - chasing shadows last night - all over the place

06 Aug 2011 08:38:15
Barton would be a great addition to the sqaud with guarunteed injuries will give us depth and he gives 100% every game and plays with passion.GET IT DONE KENWRIGHT.

Barton would add some steel to our midfield and would get the fans buzzing about this season. A striker on loan is equally important. Bellamy on a 12 month loan would be great

Barton would run through brick walls in a blue shirt, he would play with passion and fire up those around him.

06 Aug 2011 08:22:14
WHO NEEDS NEW SIGNINGS WITH ROSS BARKLEY LOOKING SO SILKY. GIVE HIM A GOOD RUN IN THE TEAM AND WATCH THE MAGIC HAPPEN, IN MOYES WE TRUST

Barkley looks like he has been playing for years, he looks composed and full of ideas. He will get better and better and could well be a key player for us this season

06 Aug 2011 06:56:24
I'd love to know how much that villereal team cost - isnt their stadium about a 30,000 seater? Maybe someone can do the maths on wages and value of the team cos they outpased and outplayed us for most of the game. We looked interested and made an effort for about 10 minutes towards the end - nowhere near good enough.

How come there players can all play that spanish style 2 or 3 touch football so easily - retain possession and every man moves into space straight away so that the guy on the ball always has two or three options to pass the ball away within a few seconds of receiving it - and yet ours look like lumpen schoolkids who've hardly kicked a ball, in comparison?
It was embassing at times - don't we practice 2-3 touch football? Every time one of our lads got the ball, if it didn't bounce off his shins or get wellied into touch, he would run for 10 or 20 yards with it, get closed down as he got pushed into a cul de sac, with no passing options, and then got the ball taken off him. A total joke - only Louis Saha looked like he could control a ball properly.
And yet passing the ball every two or three touches is simple. The other players need to move into space to receive it though, straight away, and ours just stand there not moving.
Also - how come our lads can't pass the ball a couple of yards in front of the player they're passing too, moving towards their goal - so we as a team actually move in that direction - instead of just passing to feat (sometimes) and we just get nowhere slowly.
We're making the basics look difficult.

Who's the effs doing the coaching at Everton?

(I'd start to wonder about Moyes's team - who's doing the coaching and who's the physio - as we do seem get a lot of injuries too.)

I love the fact that you think it is so easy to train a team to play the "spanish" way.... There are only a handfull of teams around the world who are good enough to play that way.

Lets not panic, it was only a friendly match and we will forget about it if we put in a good performance against spurs. Barkley look composed and classy, he will be exciting to watch this season

You answered your question already, they are a Spanish team full of Spanish players, that's just the way these teams play, short quick movements, in England it's a different play style which sadly cannot match Spanish football quality.